Ladies and gentlemen, good evening.

(Hall): ‘Good evening.’

I will begin with the last letter which I had here last week and was not able to deal with.

It is about ‘A View into the Hereafter.’

“There, on page 113, ‘A View into the Hereafter’, the poor dog is talked about from which people take gastric juices after starvation and then make notches in its neck.

Is it true the human being will have a lack of medicines when people stop with vivisection?”

Madam, it is not about the medicine which the human being will get directly from that dog, but it concerns - that is a torture, you know, vivisection exists - but the doctors are concerned with doing tests on the animal.

(There is the sound of a dog howling.)

It is here already, do you see? (laughter)

It already smelled it a moment ago ... that one is a telepathic, this dog, it is already beginning to howl (barking)

Just go now, because we will not butcher you this evening anyway. (howling, barking)

Look, just go. (laughter)

Madam, the human being says that he is telepathically attuned.

But wouldn’t you give this animal a kiss, a nice bone.

He feels, no, it is a she, she feels that danger is threatening, now she starts to bark.

Doesn’t she?

(The dog is quiet again.)

I believe it.

Because now she is going to sleep again.

(Jozef continues to read.)

“People give the human being injections, which they have built up by means of the animal.”

And now you say here ...

So people do not apply that to the dog, but by means of the animal people want to produce serums, they are tests.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes but ... they said: if there was no longer any vivisection, then ... would ...’

No, that is nonsense, so I will already it explain it to you, people built up the serums, but not by means of mucous membranes, or sperm, or whatever, or blood from a dog.

(Lady in the hall): ‘But I mean ...’

People try, people discover, people give the animal an injection in order to build up serums, medicines for the human being.

But that animal gets ...

The tortures are bad enough, but before, twenty years ago it was very bad.

You have here: “Sometimes I get by means of your injections,” my injections, do you also already get injections from me?

“Sometimes I get by means of your explanations” oh yes, that is something else, isn’t it? “the impression that the child itself chooses its parents and brings them together, then again I think I conclude from that that it is attracted by father or mother, or by both.

What is it like exactly?”

So you want to know from me: if two mothers, two fathers, man and wife, brother and sister, girl and boy give birth to a child, that the father wants that, and the mother?

And now you want to know whether that is that soul?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, I myself think that the soul brings that about ... comes to the father and mother ...’

I explained here, and the laws are like this: when the human being ...

(To someone who comes in): Just come in.

There are free chairs, madam, sir.

When the human being begins with giving birth and creating then the soul which you attract has already been busy for a long time in order to experience that birth.

It can therefore be, and that is the law ...

When we think ...

‘We will ask Our Lord, or God, for a child ...’, father says, or mother; and they have a child, then they start to thank God.

But that is already no longer necessary because that soul, that reincarnation, that rebirth is already finished, that soul is involved with their lives.

And not only by means of karma and cause and effect - you know that too, don’t you, I do not need to go into that - but also by means of the law of nature, the giving birth of Mother Nature.

Mother Nature has ...

We analysed that here, ladies and gentlemen, didn’t we ...

After the war more boys than girls were born, and I analysed here one evening the natural instinct, the natural giving birth, which the earth possesses as mother.

Do you remember?

Because when the human being ...

(To people who come in): Come in, ladies, there are enough chairs, another two there, another two here.

So when the human being thinks that he can say: ‘I want to have a child’, and they too, and the mother too, then you are completely off the mark, because Mother Nature still has that in her hands.

And in this way more boys were born during that time than girls, because fatherhood, creation, was wiped out by the last war; and we had got a disturbance, a cosmic disturbance between fatherhood and motherhood.

So the soul is already prepared, and comes because: it wants to be born.

You are already born, aren’t you, you are on earth.

But those who must come ...

And why is that now, ladies and gentlemen?

I explained those laws to you spiritually, materially, cosmically and divinely.

And why is that soul between life and death, therefore in the world for reincarnation, now the creating, giving birth power, the will, the personality in order to begin with a new life?

You can see and perceive that in all of nature, you can see that from the smallest blade of grass.

Comparison: you look in nature, you want to get to know fatherhood and motherhood, and you do not even know, you do not even see the wonderful development which takes place in nature.

If a seed goes into the ground, ladies and gentlemen, what does that mean?

If you put a small seed in the ground, what does that mean, for the human being?

That is the world for reincarnation.

You are there.

In other words, the questions which you now ask, I can immediately say: no, it is irrevocably not you.

And why not?

You can follow that in the whole of nature.

The tree, the flower, and everything which gets space is giving birth and creation, yes, indeed, is fatherhood and motherhood and everything.

(To someone who comes in): Come in.

But that same material as flower and tree and water has already experienced the condensing, you also assume.

So that already has nothing more to say for giving birth, because that giving birth already happened.

And that which already got itself as giving birth and creation, as an organism, cannot say: ‘I am creating a child, I am giving birth to a child’, that already have those laws in its hands.

So you can already establish by means of the laws in nature, you can experience this answer spiritually-scientifically, that the soul most certainly has the only law for the birth, the will and everything in its hands, and can say: it is me who is born with you, but not you by means of me, father, mother.

Is that not very simple and yet just of course?

Did you already get that out of it after all those lectures?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

You see it.

(To someone in the hall): No, sir, I can talk to you for a thousand years and then we will also go through a few cores, which are not touched.

But is it not necessary to see this?

And this is very natural, the law is like this: the soul therefore determines the reincarnation.

And not you, you are only the means.

Nice?

Do you know it now?

Good.

Well, then we will continue.

(Lady in the hall): ‘That first question ...’

With that vivisection?

(Lady in the hall): ‘It is not true what it says there ...’

I told you, that is nonsense.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Good.

And now we get here: “A law ceases to exist when we have mastered the powers which find attunement to a higher sphere.

‘A View into the Hereafter’ part II, (page) 108.”

A law ceases to exist when we have mastered the powers which find attunement to a higher sphere.

“What is meant by this?

It is said in connection with the establishing of a transition of the human being - by means of a spirit - the precise moment of passing on.”

You now have millions of laws, every characteristic - the masters teach us that - is a law, is a space, is a sphere, is a world.

When you say: ‘I am love’, love is a law.

Love is a law, isn’t it?

If you get a beating from another person then that is certainly not love, and then you do not have that law of love in your hands, which is a sphere, which is a world, which is a personality.

Is that clear?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

If you are harmonic, loving and just: you have attunement to a sphere, first sphere, second sphere, by means of your life and all your characteristics; then they are laws.

Clear?

And now you have reached that harmony, you are in harmony with the first sphere, now the law is in you, now the law of life is over because you have mastered that law as space, as love, as light, as life, as spirit.

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ... ceases to exist ...’

Now it ceases to exist.

You no longer need to fight for that because it now lives under your heart.

You are it yourself.

Would you not have got that out of it?

But isn’t it worthwhile again, madam?

Perfectly simple?

We become God and we are gods.

And if we have mastered God as a law, then the law is gone anyway, because the personality as God and as human being is at the forefront.

Clear?

Any more questions about this?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... from the laws.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Born from the laws.’

Born by means of the laws.

Out, then you will walk out of it.

Out of the home, out of life.

You will walk away from me, sir.

By means of the law, by means of love, by means of, by means of.

Is that something?

Finished, madam?

Did you have another question, sir?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I had another two questions.’

Yes, I have even more, madam, but I am still busy with this.

Did you have anything else?

Really not?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, not in this area.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... then this area.’

Oh, in this area.

Did you have something in another area?

Oh, then I will be pleased to answer.

(Jozef continues to read.) “‘A View into the Hereafter’, page 130, it talks about a poor dog”, I already had that, didn’t I?

So that note came forward here at once.

Do I perhaps have ...

Yes, really, there is more there.

“‘A View into the Hereafter’ part I, (page) 208: ‘How long will the cremated, who still have scars from that burning in the Spheres of Light ...’”

Did I say that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘That is ...’ (Josef says:) That is ... yes, certainly inside.

“ ... definitely lack something, who are troubled.

How is that cancelled out in the long run?”

But then you are not getting out of it what it says there.

If that is really like that, then master Alcar has made a mistake.

You must know that now.

If it says it like that then we can say presently: ‘Well, master Alcar, you also make mistakes.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But that is not possible.’

But that is not possible.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

“How long will the cremated, who even in the Spheres of Light ...”

So we talked a moment ago about harmony and light and law and love, and everything.

The human being who is spiritually conscious, does not bear any scars, madam, not by cremation either, nor by suicide.

So you must read over that again.

In the first sphere you are conscious, harmonic, just, loving; you have changed all the beautiful wonderful words which are in our dictionary, by means of spiritual becoming conscious and then you no longer have any troubles, or scars from cremation.

Because cremation, madam, where does that live now?

Have you read that in ‘A View into the Hereafter’ about cremation?

Do you know where those scars now live, sir?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘On earth.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘On earth.’

He says: on earth.

And you, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘In the dark sphere, because someone who ...’

Hahahaha, no, madam, that is also ...

Now my pupils are sitting there.

You must all know it.

Now it is a shame that you do not know that.

Who knows it now?

(People talk at the same time.)

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Inwardly.’

Look, that is a child, which was here twice, who also asked those wonderful questions last week.

There are adepts, who have experienced seven hundred lectures, and are still completely off the mark.

And this lady says: inwardly.

Because cremation is inward, it is not outward, because the spirit is unconscious.

If the material is completely burned, can, can the spirit then be burned?

But that inner suffering because the spirit as personality is not conscious.

My compliments, madam.

You can think well.

But that is logical.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes but, Mr Rulof, I also wanted to say that: the human being who really has attunement to the first sphere, and then his body is burned, he is already separate from his body.’

Bu then you would also have it ...

(Lady in the hall): ‘He is not troubled by that burning.’

But then you should have known it too.

Then you should have said it too.

Inside.

The human being bears the scars inside.

If you are under the first sphere, then you will see, then you are also ...

If you have experienced the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) ...

We have black astral beings there, brown.

Is that possible madam?

(Hall): ‘No.’

Is that possible?

Can they be black, white and brown there?

(Hall): ‘No.’

No, they say.

From me they heard ‘no’, and I now say: yes, that is possible. (laughter)

Oh, there we go again.

When you are still unconscious, madam, you can ... your black and brown race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) ... instantly ...

(To someone in the hall): What is there?

Is someone not well there?

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

Would you like some water, madam?

A little drop from me?

It is fresh.

Here you are.

(To someone): Sir, just give me that.

When you come from the earth, you are black and you continue, because you need ...

You know: if you come from the jungle then you must experience the bodies as an organism, you must still experience seven grades, and then you come to the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org).

And the coloured people, they are also ...

And the Chinese and the Japanese, they must all ... they have reached their organism.

But the black people who have already experienced the highest organism, and have made amends in this life, if they die, then the colour of their personality, their physical attunement will have disappeared.

But when the human being ... the first sphere ...

Now it will come.

You are all right, you know, but now you must continue to think, then I will be right again.

But if you do not have consciousness for the first sphere, then you cannot let go of that black garment just like that.

You must therefore undergo a purification, which is physical in the first place, and then you get it spiritually of course; and gradually that black colour of your skin dissolves and then you get the cosmic attunement, the skin colour which you possess and bear as a spiritually conscious child, as man and wife.

(There is some banging in the hall, Jozef say): It is a bit muggy here, madam.

Especially when we go far away, sir.

(Jozef continues.)

Do you feel this, ladies and gentlemen?

So when the human being is not conscious ... that does not only apply to cremation, that not only applies to suicide, you can experience thousands of things: by means of an accident or whatever, a conscious hanging, in a manner of speaking, you can destroy; but the more feeling and conscious, love which you have, the more you come to the cosmic attunement for your human garment on the other side.

Is that clear?

Am I right?

This is as far as we are.

And then, madam, you will of course get ...

If the human being is spiritually conscious then there will be no scars, and then there will be no question of black, brown and white, because the spiritual garment is million-fold.

You can barely analyse the human being from the first sphere anymore if you see his skin colour.

And now the second sphere, the third.

I have seen the human being in the Divine All with his hands and his skin colour.

I have been in the Divine All three times and I saw the human being there; if you see the skin colour then you see in that skin, you see in that flesh the whole of creation.

The eyes of a human being on the other side from the first sphere, madam, they shine lovingly at you, second sphere, third sphere.

Well?

Gentlemen?

Ladies?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof?’

Yes, sir.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘When you spoke about that first sphere, about the scars from the burning, cremation, that went through me: that is not possible, that we have them there, this is why I cannot give an answer to it either.’

But what do they have?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I thought: when you are in the first sphere then you will have to get rid of all those things which you experienced in your lives.’

Yes, of course.

Now you already have, you have spiritual scars ...

Yes, you have spiritual scars, but then they are the scars from lust and violence.

I told you that I saw people with lips, you could put half the earth on them, on those lips, because they kissed the whole world: lust.

A pincher, isn’t he, a thief; sir, they are no longer hands, they are claws.

Dante was close, Gustave Doré who made those drawings for Dante, with people with open stomachs ...

Oh, sir ...

I have told you a hundred times, if master Alcar had to write the book as the human being is in the darkness in his lust and violence; sir, you would no longer have read that book.

You would have had nightmares all your life.

But is that not true then, if we have those antics here that we also really possess them?

(To someone in the hall): Can you understand me, madam?

A pity, isn’t it?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Not everything.’

Not everything.

(Jozef starts to talk a bit louder.)

Will I shout a bit louder this evening?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, I can understand it like that.’

Now, we know that now too.

And we have now finally dealt with that law.

I have here: “Sometimes I get the impression,” I have got that, “because of your explanation that the child” ... I also answered that.

“There was talk about a poor dog,” I also had that.

And now we have here: “For people we know how disharmony originated,” for people, “is it also known what that is like for animals?”

There is no disharmony for animals, madam.

And for people there is no disharmony either. (laughter)

And the human being has no sins either, madam.

The human being cannot sin.

The human being murders, thieves, commits arson and goes through the world, and experiences the underworld, and yet there is no evil.

There is no evil on earth.

How we go against all of that.

There is only evolution.

For God there is no hatred, no gossip, no talk, there are no diseases for God either; but we walk round with them.

God did not create any hatred, any diseases, any destruction, any thieving.

Disharmony does not exist amongst men and women, does it?

(Buzzing).

Haha, what angels we have sitting here. (laughter)

We men and women also have ... (People laugh warmly.)

What does ... mean ...

Is he laughing again, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Piet Hein?’

Is Piet Hein busy again?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I have searched for the silver fleet the whole week.’

Did you search for the silver fleet the whole week?

We men and women have never yet thought wrongly of each other.

Just watch out tomorrow, and if you do wrong, then you just say: ‘Jozef says: “There is no disharmony, what I did is good.”’

Yes, indeed. (laughter)

But then we will grab you by your ears and we will prove to you that it should not be like that.

Then the wife will say to you, sir: ‘Look outside, on the building it says: ‘Know Yourself.’’

My brother came along this evening, Hendrik says: ‘When I am back in America then I will say to the Americans: “I have been in the house where Socrates lived.”’ (People laugh warmly)

He says: ‘Socrates lives here.’

I said: ‘That is Socrates’.’

Then he says: ‘Did he live here?’ (laughter)

Then I say: ‘Yes, Hendrik.

Just tell it in America, then they will also laugh.

They will believe it too.

You can just say that we also have a Socrates here in Holland, can’t you?

Then we will take ...

Oh, no, you are Piet Hein.

But we also have other Socrates.

Well, madam, I will continue again.

What we are talking about again, madam?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The scars.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The scars.’

No, sir, we were not talking about those scars anymore at all, we were already much further.

(To people who come in): Madam, just sit down, there is an nice seat here.

Oh no, they always sit there in the corner.

(Jozef continues to read.)

“There is talk about a poor dog ...

Sometimes I get the impression because of the explanations that the child itself chooses the parents,” You see, I must begin from the beginning.

“For people we know how disharmony originated,” and now you want to know, “is it also known what that is like for animals?

They are greedy and intolerant, among other things.”

Is that true, madam?

A tiger is tolerant, isn’t it?

A real wild lion, madam, it listens to the human being, doesn’t it?

What would you say about a lovely snake, a wild cobra?

“Even if there is so much food, one bird still chases the other one away.”

Ladies and gentlemen, the human being also does that, but the human being only takes care of society and those and those things by means of his thinking and feeling ... but the human being is exactly like the animal.

But what does that actually mean now, madam, what you see in the animal and compare to the human being?

Because when we ...

I will just help you, do you know it?

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ... in its attunement.’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘In its grade of attunement.’

In its grade of attunement.

(Lady in the hall): ‘But one animal is higher than the other.’

One animal is higher than the other.

There are animals who do not do it at all because they even come for another animal ...

Take a cuckoo, it lays an egg in another bird’s nest, and then those young of that cuckoo also chase those other young out of the nest.

Because it knows ... It is still so young, just born, two days old, and then the own young from that other bird go out of the nest, he chases it out of the nest, and then that has to ...

I saw photographs there recently, and sir lay there, he was dead tired, because he had already thrown out two of them.

And then that little bird comes - and then that chap is already so big - and that just feeds.

Because that young of the cuckoo already knows beforehand, two days old, that brat knows that it will soon be hungry if they are still there.

How is it possible?

Instinct.

I want to tell you that.

Madam: instinct.

When we were in the jungle and we got our food and drink there, and the chief did not divide it out honestly - but that still happens now, you know - then we took away half of that and took half of that, because we had animal-like hunger in those black bodies.

And it already happened there.

According to the grades of the instinct.

The human being also has an instinct.

The human being had a pure instinct when we still lived in the jungle.

But when we started with society, with that construction, we shredded the natural instinct.

All of nature is telepathically attuned.

And because in nature there is just one law: see that you get food, and where it comes from it comes from ...

One life serves the other one there.

And when we were still in the jungle, ladies and gentlemen ...

We also just experienced that here in the evenings, we just cooked a tasty man, didn’t we?

We decided together which meat was the tastiest.

That is true, madam.

Because we were all cannibals.

Someone said: ‘I always loved that thumb, that was tasty.’

I say: 'Yes.'

I say: ‘Yes, a shoulder blade like that is not bad either.’

But we took part in cannibalism, and then we also ate the human being.

So the instinct eats according to how that animal is attuned to food and the own life, but it comes higher and higher and higher, then that life starts to change.

So nature in the very first stage grabs - that is the perfectly ordinary natural instinct - and that grabs and eats and drinks, and that continues to go on, until all those animal species have dissolved.

What do we get then, madam?

(The lady says something inaudible.)

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The winged ones.’

Yes, yes, we then get the winged species, but then we have still not made it.

I also looked at the doves for half an hour this afternoon, but they are actually, they are nice animals, but they are also just satanic.

If you see ...

They do not bother about anything, madam.

They peck each other, if they just want to get one grain then that other bird is on the roof once more.

But I have now learned: that is a dreadful state in that beautiful dove world.

I say to my brother: ‘You should look, that was his wife, and now dad stays with his own daughter.’

Yes, and the old one, the grandmother now ...

That man committed plagiarism, that is more than dreadful.

And then the old one starts, she starts to coo and then they get an egg.

He loves her, but that old one from before, she may now fly after dad, because that daughter gets priority.

What would you make of it, madam?

If we started to ask that question one day.

And now dad just stays with ... because she is a big robust girl, like that, a cropper pigeon, and she is nice and dark and robust and: ‘Vvroo, vvroo’, she can do it well; and dad has a lovely fly with his own child and is making a nest.

(A gentleman says something inaudible.)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Noah’s Ark.’

Yes.

Do you know what we used to do in the jungle?

Madam, let’s not bring it up again because then ...

Madam, let’s not bring it up again because then we will still not be happy.

No, madam.

You are certainly satisfied, because ...

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, but it was not only about that greed ...’

Oh madam, now you get the finishing off.

The last thing is, this is why I am just taking the last thing: we ate each other as human beings in the jungle.

At six o’clock in the evening the chief came to one of us five and then we had to go over the hill for half of another human being, ‘and always the fattest’, he says, we had to collect that over the hill, and yes, then we had a tasty quarter in the evening, and soup in the morning.

If I already take that as an example, where does that leave intolerance, sorry to ask you?

I just want to have my cake and eat it.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, but you just remain with the human being, I was talking about the animal.’

Yes, but you asked me about the animal and then about the human being.

If the human being is already like that, and the animal is not like that ...

I take the very worst, and then you must just think for yourself, because otherwise I must write ten books.

Is that true?

You see, this is why I say, we cooked, roasted, smoked each other.

Yes, that was also a part of it, Mr Götte.

We did that to each other: we did not know any better.

We did exactly what the animal did.

Where does that leave affection, love?

And if it concerns love anyway, madam ...

Now you want to continue with that, yes, then you can also ask hundreds of questions.

If you want to analyse the laws here, then the animal is much higher in love than the human being.

Then the animal stands, then the animal experiences again, by means of instinct the animal experiences affection, obedience, a fight for life and death in order to devote the own life.

I once heard a traveller who says: ‘Yes’, he says, ‘the man lion does nothing, but mother lion goes out the door every morning, and then she goes shopping, then she comes home with a little deer.

That is true.

So the mother goes out shopping.

And then there is food.

They eat to their full, then the birds of prey come again, finish it, and it just goes on like that.

That is all there.

But when it concerns love, madam - I did not tell you that recently - then we do not even catch up with the animals in the jungle.

A gorilla recently, a story: a man in America goes into the jungle, he was a boxer, now he is called Gorilla Jimmy.

He only catches gorillas.

And that is a family.

That is the highest family in the animal life.

You should go and look in Rotterdam, there are also a few gorillas there; if you sit there for a long time and that gorilla is sitting like that, and then he just goes back again, then you see yourself.

And it just looks.

First the male is caught with a net and then that male could not go forwards anymore, not forwards or backwards, then it started to hit its breast out of fear, because it thinks: I cannot go forwards or backwards anymore; and then it started to howl and then they shot it with an arrow, the pygmies do that, and then it was lying there.

‘That female’, that man says, ‘the mother along with two children, the mother groans and weeps, your heart does a somersault.’

That takes months before that mother has wept herself to death.

‘And then they sit in a zoo’, he says, ‘and then they are completely groggy.’

Tortured to death.

‘A gorilla mourns all its life if you separate those beings, separate those people’, that doctor says who dealt with that.

He says: ‘It is horrible to separate a gorilla family, a family.’

And that man gets $ 6,000.- for a female gorilla.

And then they sit there in a zoo, and then you only just see the awful beastly antics of the human being.

And that animal weeps day and night, because that animal has the highest consciousness for the animal grade.

Because the human being says after all: ‘The ape is just like the human being.’

Darwin.

’You would like that, Darwin!’

But he has the silhouette of love, the silhouette of the love of the human being, but now 100 per cent sacred and natural according to nature.

But the human being is fragmented, the human being has no love, the human being chatters, talks, gossips, thinks badly of the human being.

A gorilla, madam, sir, is not even capable of that.

If you want to learn from each other: we must go back to the jungle because we have fragmented, raped, gossiped away and stolen our natural instinct.

We did that.

Do you want any more?

Just go to Rotterdam, madam, then you will see for yourself.

Yes, I am not talking to all of you; to that lady.

But the gentlemen can also go, because ...

I have here: “By reading your books and the hundreds of lectures we may say that we have started to think a very small bit.

I myself like to read ‘Jeus of Mother Crisje II’.

This book speaks to my life, and then all kinds of things come up.

Good and bad, but also joy, sympathy, understanding, sorrow, you name it.

Those books have everything, and then a human being wonders: who am I anyway?

When am I myself?

If you are yourself, then you are still not in harmony, are you?”

No, by no means.

Because you can also be yourself and then we commit a murder, don’t we?

“We have everything in us, but is that precisely why we are knocked down so often?

I can go on like this, Mr Rulof.

‘Get to know yourself’, the conscious child says of all life.

If we people say: I will do this or that, is that the personality at that moment?

But how many personalities are we then, Mr Rulof?

I am asking all of this because I want to learn.

Further, my thanks.”

From who is that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘From me, Mr Rulof.’

From you?

Mr de Jong, if you associate with people and you ask something politely, and they say (Jozef shouts): ‘Bother, can’t you watch out?’ then you are frightened to death, aren’t you?

But the human being does not even think of that.

When you say that ...

If you want to enter the first sphere, then the other person will not say to you - I know: you are very sensitive - then the other person will not say to you: ‘Hey hey hey.’

They say: ‘What did you say, child?’

There are people standing over there, they say something.

And those who hear that must stand here.

But they are standing talking, and talking.

And she thinks: oh, they will hear that over there.

But that other one does not hear anything.

Then that first one comes out and says: ‘Are you completely mad now, I have already called four times.’

‘God’, that other one says, ‘but, dear God, I did not hear you.’

‘Yes, yes.

Yes, but that will only happen to me once.’

Well, that just happens once?

Well, that happens every day, sir.

Recently I am standing there before some people.

I say, ‘Oh, oh, oh.’

Do you want to know what I would have done, or another person?

If you are half in Scheveningen there, sir, then I must make the effort at least if I want to tell you something.

I say: 'Sir ...'

Eh, yes, then you must not do it like I do.

If you go to the front room and say: ‘The milk is boiling over.’

And it was right under my nose.

Then you are wrong of course.

But I was dreaming.

No, self-conscious, then you say: ‘What is the matter?

What was the matter with you?’

‘Say, child, just listen, I was thinking about that and that and that a moment ago, what do you think?’

When we do not possess a pure foundation for politeness towards each other, sir, madam, when do you wish to begin with happiness?

When I say: ‘It is like this’, and you have got to know me; or other people, they are real, then that word is a law.

I accept.

But now I start to see her venom, her falseness, her deception for myself.

Well, now what?

Now I start to see the nonchalance, I start to perceive the mean part in the human being.

Well, then I do not need to ask anything, and then I do not need to say anything else, because I am involved with lies and deception.

And if that does not come out now, sir, as man, and wife, you will never, ever, ever, come any further.

Then you will be at a standstill.

Is that true?

Why does the human being snarl, why does the human being kick?

Because the human being still does not want it.

People say: the human being cannot do it.

No, that is not possible either, he still cannot do it either.

But the will is not there either.

Because when we say to each other: we love each other, brothers or sisters ...

I told here one evening, I say: if my brother does not want it, and I was to have my brother standing here, and he does not want it, and I say: ‘Yes, but it is like that’, then he must decide, first discover whether I have the truth; and if I have the truth and he flatly refuses it, well, as far as I am concerned he will collapse into the ground.

I have got to know the other side, got to know the cosmos, blood means nothing more on the other side, and family means nothing more, and fatherhood and motherhood mean nothing more, because we reach universal unity in love.

Don’t we?

So if he wants to kill himself, then I will ask him: ‘Do you want a rope or gas?’

What?

‘That is very harsh.’

And then I am called names.

‘What a brute, he asks me there whether I want to kill myself with gas.’

I say: ‘Sir, just drown yourself.’

They also told me that once, for that matter.

I wanted to kill myself, and I already let rip, then he says: ‘Well, just drown yourself.’

But then I did not do it either.

And he does not do it either.

But if we continue to not accept and not understand each other and we do not want to, then you can only come to this and say: ‘That human being is not yet that far.’

Because in order to conquer such a thing, sir, and you all know that, this is certainly not easy, you have to wage a fight there for life and death.

And if you are then beaten and kicked, you must just accept it, because ‘behind the coffin’ it will be over.

And here it is already over.

This week master Zelanus gave ...

A good question was asked.

People ask good questions in Amsterdam, a lady there says - that is a similar thing, and you have the whole dictionary in front of you again -: ‘What is longing?

May I long?’

Are you longing, madam?

The human being longs for harmony, justice, possession.

Fine.

‘Become it’, master Zelanus says, ‘and you will be it.’

Do you wish for love?

I long for a little bit of love.'

Be love, and you will be it, you will have it.

Someone said to me: ‘They should know who I am!’

Master Zelanus took over, he says: ‘Prove it to me and we will see you.’

Yes, that did not work, did it?

‘They should know who I am inside.’

Nonsense, madam.

Prove it, sir.

If you say: ‘Oh, I am beaten and kicked like that’, then you are still not love because anyone who loves does not let himself be beaten and kicked.

Ladies and gentlemen, have you read ‘Those who Returned from the Dead’?

Sir, what else do you want?

Just imagine Gerhard the coachman.

We knew that boy here.

I also saw him last week.

I say: ‘Gerhard, you are looking great.’

He says: ‘I am still just busy like that.’

I say: ‘You will become something, you are already something.’

But when you ... in the darkness, when you ... in that trouble, in that misery, in that destruction, in those hells ...

They are certainly not heavens, because you get to experience the worst lust there which there is on earth, on earth you cannot even live it up like that, this is how the people there are.

And did you think then, sir, if people gauge out your eye there from behind and from left and from right, and tear out a leg ...

Do you wish to get angry?

Then you will already be gone, then they will have a hold on you.

So you must look those people in their eyes so consciously and then they will put a sharp thing like that in there and then they turn the light, then they turn those eyes from your head, and if you become a bit angry now then that knife will have contact with your eye, your inner eye, and you look there too.

But if you continue to possess your love, you are love, sir, then that knife will go through your eyes like that; and the flesh, the light of your eyes cannot be destroyed.

When a human being says to me: ‘You kick me out the door like a beggar’ and I did not even think about that and I do not want that, then that person is consciously a beggar, madam; but not me.

And then I must already watch out, sir and madam.

When the human being says: ‘They chase me away from there like a beggar, I am kicked out the door like a beggar’, and the human being is not aware of anything, then it is not me, because I stand next to the Christ, but then I must watch out because there are false thoughts standing next to me.

Aren’t there?

There were people who were received by people.

And those people meant well and they gave everything.

And when they stood on the street, they said: ‘Did you also finish that rotten food?’

And then the other people said, who heard it later: ‘They should know that we had not eaten ourselves the whole day, in twenty-four hours in order to be able to give it to them.’

Then they were also scolded, because of those dry potatoes which they had to eat for themselves, but which they gave to those other people, and then it was ‘rotten food.’

And so on.

What do we still have to lose, if we want - that is what concerns you - what do we still have to make of ourselves in order to finally come that far that we can say: ‘Every word of the human being’, if you really meet the human being and he has began with himself and the fellow being, ‘every thought of those people is good.

However the human being talks, everything is good.’

There are no bad people in the world.

There are no people with hatred.

But if you come to me and you say to me: ‘You are treating me like a beggar’, and I did not want that at all, and you do not understand me and the world, then you are the unconscious being, then you hit yourself.

Is that true or not, Piet Hein?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’ (laughter)

Yes, sir, sir is not called Piet Hein, you know.

You are not called Piet Hein, sir, are you?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I don’t think so.’

No, I don’t think so either.

Mr De Jong, I could go on with this, but you do have any more questions yourself?

I could make a lecture from it.

I could give you a hundred thousand examples.

If a human being does not want to accept me ...

I say, for example: ‘Here, I mean it from the bottom of my heart.’

‘Pfuh, yes, well, do you believe it?

Nonsense, that man is mad’, or ‘that woman is mad.’

Well, what should we do then?

Finally begin to accept the human being.

The human being flatly refuses, the human being does not do it.

You can give everything.

Money, possessions have no more meaning.

If the human being believes another human being and it concerns devastation and destruction - doesn’t it - sir, then you can ...

Our Lord stood before Caiaphas and Pilate, and then they said: ‘Well, they told this.

Is that true?

Give us proof.’

Did you think now that Christ will stand opposite Pilate and Caiaphas and say: ‘Yes, but I did not say that’?

Madam, nothing can be done about it.

How do you wish to compete with that evil?

How do you wish to convince that evil, that wrong, satanic thinking that you did not say that and did not do that?

Sir, you cannot do that.

So the conscious being, sir, he keeps quiets.

But the conscious being as man and wife continues to love life.

But he does nothing.

He says nothing.

So much went over my head over the years, ladies and gentlemen, did you ever hear me say such a thing about a human being?

Sir, then I would be gone.

The human being does not know ...

If you hear me lashing out at you -Piet Hein; let us have it out with each other this evening, we have already known each other for a while - if I start to lash out at you and you say: ‘Well, I don’t think that is nice of Jozef’, then you must also start to think: would he mean it?

Because a human being is allowed to put a little cocked hat with a feather which sways somewhere?

(It remains quiet.)

Yes, ladies.

What does Frederik van Eeden say?

Just put on a lovely pair of sandals, even if they are two kilometres too big.

Then walk backwards forward, and walk with your back to the sun and say: ‘Oh, how lovely the moon is this evening.’

Just coo for another human being.

But the people do not want to coo for another.

You must never begin, sir, even if you get a beating.

You must say: ‘Fine, great.’

Do you know how I learned it?

There were people who thought that they could get me.

I think: if you make a mistake, and you say something dirty or ugly about me, I will counter it with something beautiful and something nice.

And what happened now, sir?

I experienced that, sir, master Alcar showed me that, he says: ‘The Spheres of Light were built up like that.’

If a human being hits me, I immediately counter that with something nice.

The human being falls and I rise.

I got a temple, and a space; and that other one started to hit and to kick, went into the ground.

I had to find him again on the other side of the earth, but under the ground, he will not come out of there again.

If the human being does something to you ... then the Christ says: ‘You decide.’

If you really want to speak to a human being, madam, why do you not go to him, and you have a quiet seat on a bench in nature or in his house, tell him what is grieving you?

But why do you do that in the street?

The human being always talks about the other person in the street and never to his face: they do not dare to do that.

They do not dare to do that, sir.

Do they, sir?

He does not dare to do that.

The human being also always listens, sir, to gossip, destruction; never to the good.

There has never yet been anyone in this world ...

Socrates was a cad to mankind; because they poisoned him.

And everything which there is for construction ...

The human being is not understood, sir.

He is first beaten and kicked.

Why?

Because this is the good thing in order to awaken.

The human being must evolve.

There is still no spiritual consciousness.

But if I had said one little thing ... if Christ had said just one thing, He had looked at them sharply, like that, with really a bit of anger inside, then His divine space would have darkened.

And if we do that, we will get a slap and we will get a beating, and we will take the clog and we will hit back, sir, then there will be no gain, on the contrary, you will knock yourself out of paradise.

If someone provokes me ... Master Alcar said to me.

‘If someone provokes you, and someone talks about you, and someone insults you, do not insult that human being, that life then, but gladly absorb it, André, and it is consciousness, wisdom.

One wrong thought in return and I will no longer be able to reach you.’

You would not have got a book from me if I had already been really angry once in my life, I do not know what evil is.

I can be angry and then I do something, but then it has meaning.

If we become angry outside of ourselves, outside of our self, do you know where it goes?

Then someone immediately comes from the astral world and within five minutes, with half an hour we will be in Rosenburg.

Because we undermine our day consciousness.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Thank you.’

Are you thanking yourself or me?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I am thanking you.’

Thanks.

Anything else?

Which one of you?

You could write a book about this, sir.

Fine, sir, you will just add the actual, human, social, spiritual, spatial remainder for yourself.

Will you do that?

Auf Wiedersehen.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Thank you.’

I have here: “In which respect is it safe when a married mother consciously lets herself be impregnated by a married man, with or without the permission of his wife, spiritually awakened or not?”

Is that something?

That comes from somewhere.

Last week we talked about it.

A few weeks ago then someone asked me a question, and he said ...

Do you remember, ladies and gentlemen, then we were talking here about: a mother could not have a baby.

It happened in London by means of an injection.

A wife of an officer could not have any children, the man was not creating, he did not have the cell.

Then she went without his knowledge to the doctor, another injection; and he came back and she was four months pregnant.

Then he says: ‘I will not accept that!’

And they got divorced.

I have already dealt with that five times here.

People keep asking those questions again.

The yes or no of ...

That question was presented to master Zelanus in Amsterdam.

And we did the wrong thing and the right thing.

Then the mother says: ‘Husband, I would rather have met a man, but I protected you.

This is why I went to the university.

But I know now how selfish you are.

And I am pleased that I am going.

I want to have a baby.’

She was a mother to a hundred percent ...

(To the hard of hearing lady in the hall): Do you understand that, madam, can you hear it?

A pity.

A mother at full power as a mother will have that baby, and must be a mother.

Because if we were to really act according to our feelings which we possess as children of nature - we are still a bit ashamed - then we would also do as the animal world experiences that: those children will come!

And whether that is from a grey one, or from a dachshund, or from a shepherd, or whoever, but that bitch will give birth to children, and will get it.

But we in society say: ‘Yes, but I am not married.’

Then the mother must ...

There was recently a lady visiting me, then she says: ‘Yes, should I then ask a man: “Give me a child”?’

I say: ‘No, that will not work.’

And now there are people in our science, who ... The masters - you should hear - the masters have spoken about spiritual universal love ...

And now a gentleman thinks - that will come from a gentleman - now a gentleman thinks: if I have universal love, then I must represent that. And then a wife of someone comes there, she arrives there, and she cannot have a baby, and I can give it to her, then I must give that mother a child with my universal love, mustn’t I?

We had a good laugh about that recently.

And I say, if there is someone here this evening for the first time, a lady, who says: ‘Well, if they are not insane people, then I don’t know.

But those people who just ... like that are really insane ...’

Because what would that gentleman say now?

I say to the gentlemen: ‘Boys, what would you think?

Imagine ...

We have those sheiks there in Voorburg, or where do those people live, behind the Dam, those sultans with their forty beautiful girlfriends, they are also right too.’

Because the man says: ‘The masters say: “Anyone who has universal love will give birth and create.”’

Sir, then we will make a filthy dirty chaos of it, if we do that.

Do you not understand then that the universal love on the other side has nothing to do with giving birth and creation here on earth; you get your own karma, you get your life.

Whether you are that or not, whether you will have a child or not.

You can go - yes, it happened - you can go to the doctor.

But imagine, what would remain of our society if the laws of the other side were explained like this: you must have universal love, and now the gentlemen must just create.

(It remains quiet, then there is laughter.)

Yes, they are laughing there, the gentlemen, aren’t they?

They would like that.

‘Oh no, why, no, no, I do not even mean that: I would like that.’

Yes, indeed.

‘No, you wouldn’t.

None of that.’

But where is it going, ladies and gentlemen?

Universal love is only spiritual - we must love everything - and that is the world which you represent by means of your life of feeling, by means of your spirit.

But physical creation and giving birth, unity, sir, that is for that man and that is for that woman.

And if that woman does not have a baby, then she must just make sure that she gets it in harmony in ten, twenty lives; because that life is disharmonic, after all.

Someone else said; ‘A man got two children there, also twins.’

Then that man says, he was then a bore in his way, he was quiet, and like that, and like that, and like that ...

Then that lady says to me: ‘May I not have a child by another man?

My husband is ‘like he is dead’.

I can have a child, can’t I?’

Yes, sir, so siehst du aus.

I say: ‘What would you have wanted?’

‘Well’, she says, ‘then I can, if my husband cannot give me a child, then I can get a child from another man, can't I?’

I say: ‘Oh yes?

So.’

I say: ‘Madam, do you wish to burn your hands, your eyes and your heart?

Then just go ahead.’

I say: ‘If you husband is not capable of giving birth and creating ...

How many marriages do you wish to have here on earth?’

We are no longer and no longer live in a jungle.

And madam, sir, do you know, that those things do not even happen in the jungle?

If you buy a black person (when these contact evenings were held from 1949 to 1952, the word ‘black’ was a common name to refer to someone with a dark skin colour) there then you must first put a few sheep on the table.

Yes, indeed.

You probably thought, gentlemen, that those people who just came there, say: ‘Oh, you can get those black people just like that ...’

Yes, indeed.

A woman is fought for in the jungle.

The woman is worth more.

Not anymore afterwards.

But in order to get that woman ...

Because this type as grade, in the jungle, must continue.

That chief has a great deal to say before those children can marry there, and give birth.

But here in society spiritual unity as love, inwardly, therefore spiritually is ... the human being must experience his own karma, his own cause and effect in his marriage, for his body, and another person has nothing to do with it.

If the people could really materialize this, then you will feel ...

If the masters ...

Imagine that the other side passed this on, then everything would not lie under the ground, but becomes badly unstuck.

One evening here we experienced ...

(To the sound technician): How many minutes do I still have?

(Sound technician): ‘Three, four.’

Three, four; then I can still deal with this.

One evening here we experienced those dramas.

A gentleman comes, there was a gentleman here in the hall, he is now in Paris, he says: ‘I knew friends, the mother cannot have a child, then he says to me’, so to his friend: ‘Say, dear, you are my friend, give us a child.’

That is possible.

And that happens several times.

He did not have the creative seed in him.

I explained those things to you.

I had people visiting me during the years 1936, 1937, another situation like that.

That gentleman says: ‘I cannot have a child, and now my wife wants a child.

And now I said to her: “Let my friend give you a child, I will beg him for it.”’

Fine.

‘Did I do well?’

The man had read books.

I say: ‘Sir, what does it matter.

But how do you deal with this?’

He says: ‘Now we got a child.

But what happens now?

Now we have that child and now I am extremely jealous.’

He says: ‘Now I see that beautiful child and now I must say: it is not mine.’

I say: ‘I understand that.’

Four years later, madam, he comes back to me.

He says: ‘Now I can do it myself, we had twins.’

He says: ‘Now what?’

A chaos.

Because he did not have any love.

She could give birth to the child, that appeared now, he did not have the sperm, he did not have the seed, did not have the core.

But after seven years, every seven years the human being changes, you get new sperm, the mother who cannot give birth to a child now, is ready in five, six years.

Do you not know that, ladies?

You know all that, don't you?

So that man says: ‘And now I had twins.’

He says: ‘And what is the best thing now?

First a lot of arguments, a lot of misery, chaos, not understanding, and now that first child is, which does not belong to us, it does to her, but not to me, that is now really the most beautiful life between the two of us, because we got lucky.’

He says: ‘Now we could weep.’

And it was a beautiful blond girl.

And that girl was older than the others of course, and she started to bring up those twins.

‘Father says this, and mother says that.

And why do you do that now?

Because this is how it should be done.’

She happened to be a beautiful child.

Now he comes, then he says: ‘One thing, Mr Rulof’, he says, ‘I am just a big brute.’

I say: ‘How?’

He says: ‘My friend gave me a heaven.

And we are both happy.’

He says: ‘He will get twenty thousand guilders from me.’

I say: ‘Do you have so much?’

He says: ‘A nice car.’

He says: ‘What a big brute I still am.’

Yes, indeed, madam.

But the personality said: ‘Because I was jealous, I made my wife’s life difficult during those years.

I terrorized her by means of that child.’

He said: ‘Yes, you with your child, and you this.’

‘Years are destroyed, and now my friend has given us a heaven.’

He says: ‘Because those twins, well’, he says, ‘I may not say: “They are not worth a jot”, but they cannot keep up with that child.

And the human being gets to see his evolution in this way, and the human being gets to experience his problems in this way.

And this is the reality.

If the mother longs for a child, and even if there were hundreds of thousands of people here, men, and only that mother, then not one will be able to say: ‘It is me.’

Ladies and gentlemen, everything is in God’s hands.

Giving birth and creation, men and women are born by means of God, you are gods.

God himself will come; the cosmic law, which I talked about a moment ago, about fatherhood and motherhood, will say: ‘If that mother is really a mother’, do you feel,’ if she is really a mother for a hundred percent’, then a vision will come from space, or a word.’

And that says: ‘Go there this evening, make sure that you have a loaf under your arm costing twelve cents’, they already know now where it is going, ‘go to the Hague woods between nine and ten o’clock in the morning, a servant girl like that will probably come with a pram who takes care of the chid for other people and she will help you to feed the ducks and in two weeks’ time you will be pregnant.’

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

INTERVAL

Ladies and gentlemen, we will continue.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof, may I ask you something?’

No, sir, I have started. (laughter)

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But you could let me ...’

Sir, then you will get to speak.

But it is not very polite, do you see?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, but I want to be impolite for a change.’

Oh, then I also think so ...

In a good way?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘In a good way.’

Sir, what did you have?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘We heard that your brother from America is here.’

It is none of your business.

(People laugh warmly.)

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘And now I wanted to greet him from here.

I also believe that I am speaking on behalf of many people here by greeting him.’ (laughter)

Sir, sit down, no, just sit down.

Sit down! (laughter)

Johan is here, Bernard is here and Hendrik is here.’

(Hall): ‘Oh.’

We have the pear pincher in our midst.

(People laugh warmly and clap.)

Ladies and gentlemen, our dear Bernard is sitting there now.

Bernard, all those people felt for you and suffered when you lay under the tram.

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

People, do we not love him now?

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

They wept, Bernard.

They asked me: ‘Where does he live?’

I say: ‘I don’t know.’ (laughter)

No, I did not have time for it.

They wanted to send Bernard flowers.

Hendrik too.

They sent flowers, wrote letters to Hendrik in America.

The people already asked me now: ‘Where does Bernard live?’

Because the men wanted to have a suit made by him.

(People clap.)

I will only say this: Bernard, Hendrik, Johan, would you like to stand up for my children, the children of my masters, would you like to look them in the face?

(People clap.)

Johan is the oldest, isn’t he?

And Bernard, he comes after Johan, and then I come.

And then comes Gerrit, and he is already on the other side, and then comes that fat one there, Hendrik.

And then comes Miets, also on the other side, and little Teun.

You also saw Teun.

Ladies and gentlemen, I would just like to say one thing: I hope that I as Jeus of mother Crisje will be able to inspire my brothers in this life in order to ... the Rulof brothers ...

What the Rothschilds were able to do as brothers ...

But the Rulof brothers, Hendrik, they will also get a name, because the Rothschilds worked for destruction and that filthy dirty money which we need so much, but we - yes, indeed, that was true - but we hope to continue our work for the Spheres of Light, for Our Lord.

Ladies and gentlemen, (people begin to clap again), no, wait, I am not finished yet. (laughter)

Ladies and gentlemen, I say in the name of the masters: I have seen the other side.

I told here one evening: when I was a little child and I cottoned on to mother, didn’t I?

I said: ‘Bernard, why is mother so fat?’

Then he says: ‘Then you must just ask Johan.’

But when I came to Johan, he said ...

(Lady in the hall): ‘He didn’t want to know?’

‘I don’t have time.’

And when I was standing here one evening, I say: ‘Now he must come to me with “I don’t have time.”

Now I will let him ask until he is blue in the face.’

I say: ‘Mother, why are you so fat?’

Then she says: ‘Yes, food tastes so good, you know.’

Then I say: ‘Yes, that might be true’, you have read that, haven’t you?

I say: ‘But I like my food too, but I am as thin as a rake.’

And Bernard, you experienced that.

And we know that.

People, I only hope, and I know, master Alcar also knows: the Rulof brothers live in me, I want to represent all of them.

But we still have one thing, I hope that they are all with me, because it is sometimes difficult to carry that whole family alone.

(Hall): ‘Oooh.’

Yes, indeed, they probably thought that they would get something nice, didn’t they?

I was able to do it and I will continue to do it.

I would only ask: we were able to build up a temple by means of Crisje and Tall Hendrik, we represent the University of Christ.

And why would the other children of Crisje not take a seat on those foundations at the door and say good day to the people who charge in there?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Boys, if you need a suit, there is my brother Bernard.

(Bernard): ‘Yes yes.’

And if you have a letter to post, there is Johan. (laughter)

And if you need Hendrik, then you must make sure that you get a boat, then you must go to him.

And then he will show you the way to the Rulof brothers in America.

We all have to do for mankind, we have to speak and to love, we have to do something.

Ladies and gentlemen, we will just stop here because I have something else to do.

But they are sitting there.

And they will stay there.

Bernard, good luck from all the people.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘So you will forgive me for my impudence?’

And we forgive Mr Götte for his impudence.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Thank you.’

Where are we going this evening?

Ladies and gentlemen, well, I would like to say more but then I will cry, but I will not do that.

I hope that it is okay.

I have here: “In ‘Masks and Men’ Frederik is talking about William Scor, and says on page 171, part II:” Now there will be something nice. “‘Go to London for me, to the Thamesway, second floor ...’”

That mad Frederik, don’t you think?

Who got that out of it?

From who is this?

From you, madam?

“‘Go to the Thamesway, second floor, and ask for Sir William Scor, add a Dutch ten guilder note’, he says, ‘and you will see him immediately; he saves old money.

Ask him whether he will come and dine with me this evening, but do not do anything stupid, you cannot ask him immediately.

He gets frightened quite quickly, and he must first attune himself.’”

Who got that out of ‘Masks and Men’?

That is in it, but who understood it?

“‘‘But if you ask him that, he will give you a glass of wine, and you may see all his naked statues because he is mad about sculptures and only has naked ones.

He has all the women of the world, even queens.

Go to him and just say that Thomas van Kempen ...’” Aha, that Frederik, don’t you think?

Where does he get it from?

“‘ ... that Thomas van Kempen sent you.

Tell him that we laid together under the pyramid of Rijswijk and that we dug ourselves out from under it.’

Who does he mean by William Scor?

And what does all of this mean exactly?”

Madam, that is a pandemonium.

Madam, this is the human being, the man, the woman, who wants to possess nakedness.

And you can buy queens.

That is the Thamesway which does not exist; it does not exist.

So that man does not have God.

No one got that imagery from ‘Masks and Men’, ladies and gentlemen.

There are seven keys.

A lady says to me, it says in there: ‘You said to me this week: there are seven keys for ‘Masks and Men’.’

I say: ‘Yes, madam, we still have to have those other ones printed.’

I say: ‘But you will get that seven out of it yourself.’

I say: ‘We are talking about good and evil here.’

But ‘Masks and Men’, ladies and gentlemen, they will soon write ten, twenty, twenty-five books about that, when we are no longer here.

Hendrik in America had read them, he says: ‘My God, my God.

I was ill ...’

And now he had said to little Teun - he was ill and started to read - he says: ‘I was lying there ...’

Hendrik is sharp, you know.

He says: ‘God damn it,’ thinks Henk.

Bernard said: ‘That is swearing.’

They say ‘God damn it' in ‘s-Heerenberg.

Then Bernard says to me this week: ‘Do you still swear?’

I say: ‘Have you forgotten ‘s-Heerenberg then?’

I say: ‘But that is not swearing.’

Hendrik says: ‘Good gracious, my God, what books they are.’

He says: ‘For thirty years, I built up restaurants, everything.

The people come there to talk from far and near.’

He says: ‘But in those thirty years I have not learnt as much as in those four days when I was reading ‘Masks and Men’.’

And that is the truth.

Isn’t it?

(Hendrik says): ‘Yes.’

And you cannot learn that.

Then he calls by telephone, Henk, Hendrik was just some 800, 1400 kilometres further than Teun.

He calls, he says: ‘’Have you already looked through that, behind the ‘Masks and Men’?’

‘No’, Teun said, ‘I still do not understand it, that first part.’

He says: ‘Then you do not have sandals either.

But I am wearing them.

I have them.’

‘Good heavens, Jeus, write about another ten of them.’

I say: ‘That cannot be.

That is not possible.

You can only just write them once.’

Who presently got out of that ...

William Scor.

He says: ‘Go for me to London to the Thamesway ...’

Look, that is society.

Do you feel, he could also have said: ‘Go to Paris.’‘ ... to the Thamesway, to the second floor ...’– so you are already off the ground with both feet, you should see this spiritually – ‘and ask for William Scor.

Add a Dutch ten guilder note and you will see him immediately.’

That means: the human being is for sale.

Otherwise he will not open the door.

You can buy the human being for five guilders.

Can’t you?

Plenty.

For five guilders and ten guilders you can buy a human soul.

Yes, I am not even talking about that Wagenstraat here, for one guilder fifty you can buy a human being, for twenty-five cents.

They steal your wallet just like that, but it is not about that.

You can buy a human being for a ten guilder note.

‘And you will see him immediately; he saves old money.’

He saves unconsciousness, this personality has the old rust of the world.

That is the highest nobility in the destruction for the earth.

William Scor, he buys, he likes sculptures, and he has all naked ones standing next to him; ladies and gentlemen, that is the lust.

That is the lust.

That man looks at all those beautiful women, those people, he only has naked ones.

What would we have to do to ourselves if on the stairs and in the bedroom and at the door, and everywhere there were just naked statues, madam?

What? (laughter)

Do you have to laugh at that?

But what would the world be made of?

That man does not save, he saves old rust, old money.

‘And if you give him a ten guilder note, he will let you in immediately.’

Look, that is the paying being.

The human being who receives the human being only by means of the mud of the earth.

The human being who is not open to cordiality, benevolence and a good word.

The human being who wants to see a ten guilder note here.

And then Frederik says: ‘He saves old money.’

Pieces of silver.

So that is a human being who is sitting on the money and is only for sale by means of money.

Did you also get that out of it?

Do you not know it?

Oh yes, you may not say anything to that gentleman.

He has a separate task.

‘ ... he saves old money.

Ask him whether he will come to dinner with me this evening, but do not do anything stupid, you cannot ask him immediately, because then he will get a fright.

He gets frightened quite quickly, and he must first attune himself.’

Because when you ask the human being just like that, that rottenness in society, and that human being is honestly open and says: ‘Sir, will you come to me this evening and I will give you a nice dinner’, no one will believe that, will they, madam?

Something of the key, all of the character of the human being speaks here.

But you can also write a book about this, about this sentence.

If I meet you this evening on the street ...

I meet people there on the street - it’s that, isn’t it? - and I come across: ‘Oh, madam, sir, would you like to come to me for dinner this evening?’

If it is a lady of twenty-seven years old, I will already be in prison.

Yes, if I ... a mother perhaps of ninety-two years old ...

But she will also laugh right in my face, then she will say: ‘Sir, I have food and drink at home.

What do you want?’

Or says: ‘Officer, I am being assaulted.’

And then I must just prove myself at the police station, whether I meant it.

You cannot do that, madam.

Because if I am walking here in The Hague at the Groenmarkt, through the Venestraat, I am feeling fine, and I am as happy as  Larry, and I ask every gentleman and lady there: ‘Will you come to dinner with me this evening?’

Within ten minutes I will be in Rosenburg.

That’s it, madam.

Within ten minutes I will be in Rosenburg if I ask the human being: ‘Will you come to dinner with me this evening?’

The real human being who gets a fright.

And says: ‘Sir ...’

My brother told me a good story.

There was a journalist in America, just the same thing, and they are the masks and the men.

Hendrik, my brother, says: ‘A journalist, a rich man’, now at Christmas in America, ‘he wanted to do good at Christmas.’

The two of us sit day and night talking about the masks and the men, we are enjoying ourselves.

I say: ‘Have you read that?’

‘Gosh, Good Lord.’

And then Henk gets kisses from me because he understands it.

He has already almost lost half a cheek. (laughter)

He says: ‘That millionaire comes, he throws money out the window, dollars, dollars, within ten minutes he is in the madhouse, in prison.

They did not believe him, they laughed at him.

A journalist, he says: ‘That man is mad.’

Madhouse.

He only just wanted to make the people happy, he threw the money out the window.

Sir, this is the same thing.

Another person, a journalist is standing on Broadway, he says: ‘Here are twenty dollars for ten dollars.’

How many did he sell, Henk?

Three probably, didn’t he?

(Hendrik): ‘Four.’

Four.

He had two hundred with him, he only got rid of four.

The human being no longer believes anything.

Christ came to earth.

He said: ‘I am the Way, the Truth and the Life.’

Who believed Him?

If I say: ‘I am the Paul of this age.

I am a cosmically conscious being.

I am the teacher of the University of Christ’, then they say here, those who know me and who have experienced it all with me, they say: ‘Yes, we know that, Jozef.’

But there were a few sitting there who already left the hall recently and who said: ‘Oh, that man is mad.’

But because of my eight hundred and fifty lectures, my books which I got through the masters, and the masters who speak to you themselves ... my people also go with me.

If I was to ask the people here this evening: ‘Say, boys and girls, girls and boys, at 23.25 hours we will be burned at the stake for the University of Christ.

But now no longer unconsciously, now we will go consciously.

Because we can save the world from ruin.’

How many of you will I get?

(Hall): ‘All of us.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Me immediately.’

Immediately, one person says.

Women and men will burn at the stake with me, and say: ‘Jozef, may I die for you?’

Yes, they also said that to my brother somewhere, and then he almost got hit on the head because they wanted to take a thousand dollars from him at the same time.

I say: look.

But what we are fighting for ... What the world is fighting for, what the world lives for, is: ‘I love you’ and ‘If did not have you I could not live.’

Madam, in four days you will be out the door.

People say to each other: ‘Oh, I love you so much.’

Madam, nonsense, just do not believe it, because the human being does not know his love.

He does not know himself.

And that is that Mr Scor with his naked statues.

He no longer has any reality, he has creation as stone.

It is beautiful, but that is not the human being as soul and spirit.

(To someone in the hall): What did you say, Sjaantje?

Oh, I thought that you were called Sjaantje. (laughter)

Yes, look, there must always be someone because I already saw you blinking, do you see?

And that comes straight from ‘s-Heerenberg.

Doesn’t it, Bernard?

(Bernard): ‘Yes.’

‘Yes’, he says.

We got the gaiety of Tall Hendrik and the pure, beautiful life of feeling of Crisje.

And if you begin with Crisje then we will all be sitting crying like that.

I come from the clay, from ‘s-Heerenberg, I did not learn any Dutch, Bernard, but here in The Hague I can also teach them something, can’t I?

And here you can also earn money talking in dialect.

Yes, they are sitting there chuckling again.

The human being is thirsty and hungry, but the human being will not achieve anything, madam, if we put the naked statues of the sculptors next to us.

But go to Mother Nature, let that man, that Mr Scor just go to God, and just let him look at the life of God.

What does the human being say if a gentleman like that comes, and buys a naked statue in a bazaar like that or a shop like that?

Then the gentleman says: ‘Sir, three lovers were already here for this.’

Then he says: ‘What did you say?’

‘There were already three lovers here this afternoon for that woman, but they did not have the money, it costs NLG 250.-.’

Then he says: ‘Am I a lover then?’

Then he says: ‘What did you think then?

What did you think then, sir, that you are?

A holy Joseph?

Peter perhaps?

Why do you take a naked statue into your home?’

‘Is that not allowed then?’

‘Then you will be Mr Scor.

Sir, then you will be for sale.

Then you do not search for reality.’

Sir, if that is standing to the left and to the right of you, madam, and on a staircase in the corner, and a door opens and there is also another one there which is bigger; madam, then there is something the matter with us.

And then we are not wearing any sandals.

Then we are walking next to the Thamesway.

And we do not drown, madam, because we do not have any water.

But we do not have any ground under our feet either.

Madam, we are completely off the mark.

We have nothing.

(Jozef continues to read.) “He gets a fright quite quickly and he must first attune himself.

But if you ask him that, he will give you a glass of wine and you may see all his naked statues.”

Madam, if I attune myself, let’s just say, to that lust and that debauchery, then I will be sitting with sir at the table.

And you as a woman, as a mother, can certainly go into the fridge, in a garment of concrete, which he cannot get through, otherwise you will already be spiritually and physically destroyed.

And then you will hang later just like that on the wall, and then you will also stand somewhere there as a naked statue.

That is Mr Scor and Madam Scor.

Did you not know that?

Did you really not know that?

Worthwhile?

Read ‘Masks and Men’ sometime.

We have seven keys, but this is one of lust and violence, of a pathetic carry-on.

The human being who knows, the human being who is conscious does not need to get a fright from the other human being.

And he does not need to give a ten guilder note either and place it on the table, because that human being really receives you.

And if you get the real person who says: ‘I would like to have dinner with you.

I would like to have dinner with you’, then you will also come there.

I also experienced those people in America, those Sallys with a hundred and sixty-five thousand guilders, a hundred and sixty-five million.

There was also a Spanish countess there too, such a big one, and she says: ‘Jozef must come.

We would like to have dinner with him.’

She wanted to thank Jozef.

She wanted to make connections with me.

And that had to happen with a dinner.

I say: ‘I will go.’

And then I became ill.

And when I was outside, I had not even finished it, I had eaten a little bit, I think: gosh, gosh, how sick I am becoming.

They just sat talking about Christ, and talking about Christ.

‘And we have to do something for the world.’

I say: ‘Oh, yes.’

And then I wanted to go and eat, I think: ‘Oh, how sick I am becoming.

How false that is.’

Then I was sitting at the table with a Madam Scor like that.

I came outside, little Teun was waiting for me.

I say: ‘Teun ...’

Ladies and gentlemen, you may tell that to The Hague, here they sometimes say real harsh words.

But I must not make anything else of it and I flatly refuse too.

I say: ‘Teun, in Holland you have sometimes heard real Dutch, that the human being says: “The human being makes me want to puke.”’

I say: ‘Howah, there it goes.’

Out.

I became nauseated, from misery.

They sit there with a hundred and seventy-five million.

‘And I would like to do something for the Christ, we have to serve mankind.’

Then I did not even understand it, I could not even relate it.

I say: ‘Yes, indeed.’

And then I came to Park Avenue; there is an American lady sitting there, Countess Bounty, and she knows what Park Avenue is.

I say: ‘Madam, I was there yesterday evening, and I became nauseated again.

They just want to see me.’

And then I talked, madam, about Socrates, Plato.

The Rembrandts were hanging there on the wall.

And then a man from the newspaper there said: ‘I learned more here yesterday evening in an hour and a half than twenty-five years from the newspaper.

And Jozef, if I was to say something about you, they will soon kick me up the street.’

And I was in a mess.

And then I managed something, ladies and gentlemen.

And what did you think, madam?

I say to Teun: ‘I want to experience one thing from this wonderful Metropolis’, I say, ‘as Jeus of mother Crisje from Gelderland, a child of the Grintweg.’

She was called Lisbeth, she had seventy-five million, I say: ‘Lisbeth, would you like to go for a walk with me?’

And I took her like that by the arm, and I dragged sixty-five million through the room. (laughter)

I say to Teun: ‘Can you feel something?’

Then Teun says: ‘I don’t feel anything.’

I say: ‘I feel nothing at all.’

I say: ‘Whether they have a hundred million or they have clogs on their feet’, I say, ‘just give me Crisje’s slippers.’

I say: ‘That sixty-five million which I now have on my arm, does not mean a jot; inside it is stone-cold, they are betraying the Christ.’

‘Did you have a nice walk, Jozef?’

I say: ‘You have one who will go straight to the grave.’

I say: ‘Do you know my books?’

‘No.’

I say: ‘Otherwise I would tell you where you will end up.’

I was gone.

I never want to have people on my arm again with sixty-five million, madam.

If there is something to feed, then we will go outside, we will feed ducks.

And what a nice time we will have, madam.

They cannot even miss the crumbs from a loaf which is as big as the earth.

‘We would like to do something for the Christ.’

I say: ‘Yes, you are killing Him.’

Another Sally.

I say: ‘You, lady, you have one hundred and sixty-five million.’

I say: ‘There are millions of people living here in New York, they are hungry and thirsty, they haven’t any food.’

I say: ‘And you bring home three hundred dollars’ worth of fresh flowers every day.’

Every day three hundred dollars’ worth of fresh flowers, ladies, and they were put out in the evening, they could give them away.

And an apartment - yes, that is not gossiping, you know, I have that there ... as big as this Ruyterstraat, in gold.

And they want to serve Christ?

And they want to give me food?

And something for me ... to see a contact?

While I sit on gold up there?

Madam, there you had a Madam Scor like that.

Then I thought of ‘Masks and Men’.

Are you trying to kid me that you are serving the Christ?

And you place your sister and your brother as a naked statue in your hallway?

Is that possible?

And do you wish to let them walk along the Thamesway?

That is taking the human being from dry land into the ditch.

Did you have that?

Read ‘Masks and Men’ again.

And then also go with a Sally worth a hundred and sixty-five million, and an Elizabeth worth seventy-five million, no, it is not so bad, and go for a walk.

Madam, do you know how heavy they are?

I thought that I had lost my arm, so empty and so heavy; and then I had only just walked through those rooms.

I say: ‘My God, what can I hope to achieve with such an unconscious child of Our Lord?’

‘Long live Crisje’, I called on Broadway and no one understood it.

But they could hear it in Jerusalem.

I say: ‘Father, are you there too?

Otherwise I could do you an injury.

You used to have airs, Tall Hendrik.

Are you also there now?’

I say: ‘Do you not see me here?’

I was walking on Broadway, ladies and gentlemen, but my brothers do not know that, I never told them.

Hendrik can hear that this evening.

I prayed in America, Henk, and if I start to tell it again now then I will start to cry, but I flatly refuse to.

I walked there on Broadway, and I was walking crying and then the lady who is sitting there asked me: ‘Why are you crying, Jozef, Mr Jozef?’

I say: ‘You can’t believe what I am.

I can’t tell that.’

Hendrik, I was walking in New York, and I sent straight to Our Lord: ‘Our Lord, let me sell the light in my eyes here in New York so that my brother Hendrik can continue with the books.

But I ask a hundred thousand dollars for it.’

‘Who wants the light in my eyes?’

I wept for two days on end, four weeks on end.

But I could not get rid of the light in my eyes.

And then there came back from the heavens: ‘They are not worth it, not for any millions.’

‘And so’, Our Lord said to me on Broadway, ‘we do not need to lay the foundations for the animal kingdom.’

And I am pleased that it did not happen, because now I can at least also say something.

But I would have liked to have sold them in order to give you that money so that you could continue.

I was not happy with only paintings, but I give my heart and my blood and the light in my eyes, you see all of that on the other side, ladies and gentlemen.

I am not talking rubbish.

This evening I also want to sell my light in order to be able to publish all my cosmic books.

I just need a hundred thousand.

And I want to be blind, but I will get the light from space and from Christ, this evening master Alcar is inspiring me.

And he sells his light and master Zelanus does it of his own accord.

What would you put in?

Recently another five hundred guilders flew into the letter box, recently with ‘Jeus II’, five thousand guilders, and now money is flying into the letter box again.

Ladies and gentlemen, I do not want to know, you do not want to know where that money comes from, you will not be any better off with it.

But never ask me, and you no longer want to do that, never ask me who you are.

I want to give my light, I have already given my blood a hundred thousand times; and we want certainty, consciousness, happiness, we have love.

Don’t we, mother?

I could not sell my light.

And if I had been able to stay for another two years, then the girl from Vienna would not have seen me again.

I say: ‘And if Our Lord says tomorrow: “Go and walk, Jozef”, then I will go away.

Then I will do just as Peter and John.’

But I would just as soon stay here with you.

We can do much more together than that I end up there with those mad Turks.

True or not, madam?

What can I do with a Turk, I will not understand him anyway.

I must first start to learn Arabic.

And why would I start to learn it while I can talk proper Dutch at the moment?

And I already know a few words of English.

You probably didn’t know that, did you?

I can also already speak some German, Duits haben wir al gelernt zu Hause want wir waren ja in Emmerich.

Sie haben ja ‘Jeus II’.

‘Oh’, Jeus says when he comes to Emmerich, ‘ich bin ja schon angefangen.’

Pfuh, don’t you think, did you not laugh, Mr De Jong?

Pfuh, we learn German there in clogs.

But I no longer need, do I, I no longer need to go to Jerusalem, do I?

Our Lord, you will not let me go to Russia, will you?

Because I do not understand any Russian, I do not know any Russian.

Oh sir, there are people who take a white sheet and they go for a walk.

Wearing a white sheet, sir, and beautiful sandals.

There were recently a few in Paris and they said: ‘I am Christ.’

I told you that good story, and that is also a Mr Scor.

Then they found him again in a shop, madam, that was Christ, and his wife.

He went to Rome.

First he was sitting in the tram with a beautiful garment, a beautiful goatee beard, beautiful hair, beautiful eyes, but they were empty, a beautiful white garment, a little bit yellowish, you know, and wearing sandals.

And then he walked along the street like that.

And half an hour later that same Christ was in a shop and bought a liver and salt beef sandwich, because he was hungry.

Then a journalist says: ‘Mmm, this one really smells of society.’

And when sir came to Rome, then they asked him ...

He said: ‘I am the Christ.’

Then they said to the Holy Father: ‘Christ is at the door, he wants to come in.’

Then the Holy Father whispered something to one of his best cardinals, madam, he says: ‘Just tell him that.

Just ask him that.’

And did you think that Rome was mad?

Oh, no.

Rome is wise.

It is a pity that there is damnation in it, the last Judgement.

Then the cardinal went to the gate, he says: ‘How long ago was Christ on earth?’

He says: ‘Nineteen hundred years, so many months, so many hours and so many minutes.’

He says: ‘Then you are just ten minutes too late.

Because He was just here.

You are number ten.’

‘What?’

Rome does not have any respect for a white sheet.

Do you wish to act as Christ, ladies and gentlemen?

There are enough of them, we have Mena Baba in the East.

In New York I lost all my foundations which we had laid, and only because I had to betray Paul Brunton and had to accept Mena Baba in the East, then: ‘He is the Christ.’

Do you not know that book by Paul Brunton?

He is standing there before Mena Baba, and Mena Baba has already been silent for twelve years.

‘And when the moment comes and I have to begin with my task’, he wrote on a note, ‘then I will bless the world and mankind.’

Nice, isn’t it?

But now the rest.

Now also the gifts.

Now also the divine consciousness.

But ladies and gentlemen, he is still silent.

Mary Pickford lay at his knees, at his feet, and a great deal of those stars; but he does not say anything, he writes notes.

I had to go to New York, I stood there like child from ‘s-Heerenbergs at Carnegie Hall, and I stood there alone: ‘Ladies and gentlemen, and I bring the greetings of the Netherlands from my sisters and brothers.’

And then I had to begin: wrrlu wrrlob.

And they liked it too.

Yes, I was kissed by the brown people, because we suddenly had it: ‘You think that you only come in’, yes, sir, I have already forgotten it, ‘in a wonderful ...’, that is not a suit, a body is not a suit, not a dress, is it?

No, that is not a dress.

What is it called again, sir, but we know that language.

‘You are now black and in another life you are white people.’

Oh yes.

I say to that white one there, who happened to be a professor, I say: ‘Madam’, because I knew her, she had been to the exhibition, I think: I must have her, she was a parapsychologist, I say: ‘Today you are white, but in four hundred years’ time you must return and you will also be black.’

And then four black people (when these contact evenings were held from 1949 to 1952, the word ‘black’ was a common name to refer to someone with a dark skin colour) ... I got a nice kiss, and I was not even black, because that kiss was white.

He says: ‘Come on, Bistro, come back, and we will bring the whole of Harlem to you.’

I say: ‘I still have a few days.’

But it is a pity, I had certainly been amongst the black people (see article ‘Against racism and discrimination’ on rulof.org) in Harlem all my life, they certainly did not eat me just now, because you no longer see a pot there now.

You no longer see a pot there.

I say: ‘Do you wish to make soup of me, madam?’

Madam, they are all not Emschors but Mr Scors, all fraud, forgery, emptiness.

Yes, I can go on but it will not help me anyway.

I will finish your letter: “You get beautiful statues, you get all the women of the world there.”

Yes, madam, I already said, the human being is for sale.

And Mr Scor buys everything for little money.

He is mad about sculptures.

Is the statue of Our Lord, the real statue not a gem of power of creation?

Is that not the human being?

Is that not the human being?

“He has all the women of the world, even queens.”

Yes, indeed.

“Go to him and just say that Thomas van Kempen sent you.”

Who was Thomas van Kempen?

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ... a church teacher?’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Was he a church teacher?’

Precisely, madam.

So that man does not even have any faith.

Frederik says: just say that Thomas van Kempen sent you.

So that dirty scoundrel, I say that, that Mr Scor does not even have any faith, madam, he has no church, he has absolutely nothing and then you must first ...

(To someone in the hall): What did you say to her?

What was it?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Do you want to know that?’

You are muttering.

If you are sitting in my line and you do this, then I will be off track, won’t I?

Yes, then you disturb my line, do you see?

My line.

But my line has been disturbed.

Now you must see again that you get on track, I know nothing anymore about anything.

It can go like that, madam.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Thomas ...’

Yes, I will not be disturbed, I have nothing to do with you, sir.

Thomas van Kempen, madam, that is the faith, the bible.

And then: just say that Thomas van Kempen sent you.

Frederik gives an imagery there which was exactly like that of the Christ.

The imagery of the Christ was sometimes still animal-like, material, natural; but He still did not say anything about the spirit and the spatial laws, because it was not possible.

But Thomas van Kempen represents faith, wisdom, the revelations for the human being, which you can lay as foundations.

And this is why Frederik says: ‘Just say that Thomas van Kempen sent you.’

And now something else comes, I think.

“‘Tell him that we lay together under the pyramid of Rijswijk’”, not of Egypt and of Giza, but the pyramid of Rijswijk, the pyramid of the Wagenstraat, madam, and the Weteringkade and the Oranje hotel.

The pyramid of Rijswijk.

Do you feel, it is all so true, because that man, that Mr Scor has nothing, that is the lust, the emptiness in the human being and of the world.

‘You must see behind that’, Hendrik said, ‘then you will know yourself.’

Yes, Hendrik, that is divine wisdom.

You can read those books a thousand times.

After millions of years, Hendrik, they will still be reading this.

They will still be reading this.

Not one book by the masters can be destroyed.

All the books will come to every human being on earth.

The society the ‘Age of Christ’ will be as rich as the world, and I predict to you this evening and that is very simple: soon our books will be a state possession.

That will come, sir.

It will already be that far in a hundred years.

And anyone who belongs to the University of Christ, who belongs to the Rulof brothers, will be supported later by millions of people, because they are the children of eternity.

Did you not know that?

Did you not know that, sir?

But it is perfectly simple, you are also a Rulof brother.

We are all children of the University of Christ.

The children of the masters who do not die out, sir.

Our wisdom is eternal.

The masters now work for the Messiah, He said: ‘People will come who know more than I do.’

We now have it in our hands.

Mr theosophist - we have a robust, great theosophist sitting there, no, that one, there, Mr what’s-his-name -. we spoke to each other and he experienced the Rosicrucians, the theosophists; didn’t you, friend?

What is left of that?

Can they take us on?

Can Annie Besant take us on?

Can Annie Besant say, as we stand on earth presently: ‘Go to Oxford and Cambridge, and you will get the Christ’?

We say: ‘Madam, he will only be born in the clay.’

Won’t he?

You cannot teach Him anything.

I was also be able to tell them that in America.

They will not get over our wisdom again, because it comes straight from the Christ, because His children live there who now have a task to carry out on earth.

We do not need to get any ideas, but fair is fair, we have it.

And no one will take it away from us again.

Isn’t it true, mother?

Anyone who builds a pyramid of Rijswijk, madam, and anyone who lies under it, lives as a mole under the ground.

He has not undergone any crucifixion and that human being has not built up any fundamental laws by means of stone such as the pyramid of Giza, that human being has a pyramid of Rijswijk.

And it collapses like a pack of cards.

Clear?

Will you read that passage again?

You must take four hours for it and then you must imagine all of that.

And if you can do that as man and wife, with a lovely cup of tea, just like that after work, and mother the wife is sitting quietly and the man says: ‘Child, just have a nice seat, and then I will make some tea.

But you must listen carefully, you know.’

And then you analyse the pyramid of Rijswijk for each other.

Then you go to Mr Scor and then you see all his naked statues.

And the last kiss, when that is all over, then he says: ‘How happy I am that you are with me, darling, because now you are real.’

And then you must experience that kiss, madam.

When you are ninety, madam, and you have still not experienced the spiritual kiss, then I will teach you to kiss, teach you to coo.

Because the spiritual kiss, madam, has never been experienced by one human being on earth.

You probably thought that I was telling a story again.

The spiritual kiss is spatially deep.

That is the human being with truth.

That is the human being with trust.

That is a human being with consciousness, with justice, and not any gossip.

That human being always talks good, that human being always thinks good of life.

And if you then know the universe and the life ‘behind the coffin’, and you can say of yourself: ‘My life radiates light, wisdom and awakening’, then the mother of space stands next to you, or you then go into the bedroom, you go and lie down, hand in hand, and then you make a universal journey, and then you can say for the first time: ‘My kiss is love.’

Look, they are already sitting there weeping.

Here, (kiss), nice, isn’t it, don’t you like it?

Bwww.

Who can say: ‘My kiss is truth’?

We shake each other’s hands, and a moment ago we also killed each other inwardly.

A lady comes who says: ‘That human being?

Oh, they are so false, those people have this.’

Good heavens, I am sitting with my nose in it.

That lady comes - people sometimes say: speak of the devil, and he is sure to appear - that bitch precisely, madam, whom they were talking about, enters.

‘Gosh, are you there too?

Oh, how wonderful that is.’

Really.

‘Come in, child.’

Oh yes.

‘Is it not great weather.

How are the children?

Oh, how wonderful.’

I think: good grief, what a bitch.

You may not say that, sir.

We as children of Rembrandt and Piet Hein do not say such a thing.

We always have the truth.

The human being is received there: ‘Yes, madam, yes, indeed.’

I say: ‘Do you mean that now?’

Mm?

Madam, you may not listen to that because then you are already a listener of evil.

But is it not true?

Must I teach you how you must learn to think?

What you must do in order to finally give that kiss?

Yes, but we are to blame ourselves.

If you give me a kick, as a man, mother, and you are, well no, not bitchy, but you are like that and like that, and like that, it is not nice, what do you want from me when I see you, and the other way round?

If the man hits the mother, the man threatens the mother in himself, and the man is a bit tyrannical, he knows everything and he just hits, he says: ‘You know nothing.

And you keep your lifeless face, do you understand that?’

Yes, then just keep your lifeless face.

How do you wish to receive that life, that lady?

You do not need to learn ‘behind the coffin’.

But in the first sphere, in that sphere, that world which we talked about at the beginning of the evening, you must have that benevolence there.

Because that sphere says: ‘Hey, wait a moment, you are still so cheeky.

You are still too quick.

You are still too ad rem.

The human being is still frightened of you.’

The human being may not get a fright, you may not make the life afraid.

Because Christ always comes walking along and never had chains around him.

That is only here with St. Nicholas.

When the human being comes with chains and with whips, ladies and gentlemen, then there is something the matter.

Then just lock the door.

But the human being stands before you, society is still like that, and the human being says: ‘Oh, my dear, how pleased I am to see you again.

I have suffered so much’, but in four days’ time they have an argument and one stabs the other to death.

‘I cannot live without you.

If we did not have you, sir, what would become of us if you were no longer there?’

In four months, madam, you will be sent away.

All nonsense, all deception.

The human being says: ‘I love you.’

You must just prove it.

There was a gentleman outside recently, he had to go here to the lecture, that was in Rotterdam, a few years ago, and he said, he had a nice car ...

That man earned NLG 27.50 a week, and then there were two poor mites there: ‘Sir, may I have a lift?’

‘Oh no, oh no.’

And then that gentleman had an argument with a lady, she said: ‘Then I will not go with you either.’

‘That is up to you.’

That man put the car in the garage because he did not want to give those people a lift.

To just let a human being enjoy the food of Our Lord, the other human being has nothing to spare for that.

Because the human being says: ‘Those people are completely mad.’

When do we serve?

When are we open?

If you just walk one way.

We must walk one way to Jerusalem, mustn’t we?

And that man is sitting there.

And he drives past us, and I thumb a lift, and it says on my sign: ‘I must also go to Jerusalem.’

But madam and sir, there are plenty among us who let us stand by the road and say: ‘Drop dead.’

People must go one way, also to the Ruyterstraat, also to Jerusalem; because this is Jerusalem.

There are people standing beside the road thumbing a lift, and they do not see them, they also run them down.

Because he is sitting alone in a palace like that.

Madam, you can use that for everything.

We walk past the people, we stand before them, we do not know them, we do not see them, we are only ‘self’.

And they are all from that Mr Scors, they are naked statues.

There are people who say: ‘I will die for you.

And you can do want you want to me.’

Madam, do not begin with that, because tomorrow they will take your heart out of your ribs.

They will say; ‘Yes, did I say that?’

‘No, sir, I did not say that, did I?’

Then they spoke Russian.

‘Did I say that, sir?

I did not mean that.

Oh, no, then you did not understand me, you know.’

‘I will die for you.’

Oh, madam, just do not believe it.

Let us just not elevate that great word.

Let us just remain quite simply on earth and on our own two feet.

Let us speak to each other and say: ‘I want to do my best from now on in order to be honest and to think really purely.’

You will do nothing to me.

Will you?

I also have something else here. I will also read this out, it is time.

Are you satisfied, madam?

I also have here: “What do you think of the bible?

Or rather: what kind of book do you consider the bible to be?”

From who is that?

Madam, then I no longer need to say anything to you, because I felt that it was you.

So I will just begin the next time with that.

I can answer this, but then I will go through all my books.

Have you already read my books?

Not yet?

Not one?

Have you finished the three parts of ‘A View into the Hereafter’?

When you have finished them, will you ask me that question again, because I must go to the other side.

And if you ... the bible ...

If you have not read those books then I cannot explain the laws to you how we see the bible, how Christ himself sees the bible.

Do you accept that?

“I would like to know from you whether you agree that Jesus said these words on the cross: ‘Oh God, oh God, how can You forsake me.’

What do you say about that?”

Did He say that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

(Lady in the hall): ‘May I give my opinion?’

No, you must just say ...

(Lady in the hall): ‘No.’

Good, madam, they put that in the Christ’s mouth.

God is hanging there on the cross and God cannot say to himself: ‘How can You forsake Me?’

Madam, then you will be satisfied this evening.

(To the sound technician): I only have a minute left, don’t I?

In Gethsemane He said: ‘Let this cup pass from Me.’

But who was with Him?

(Lady in the hall): ‘No one.’

Who heard Him there when those mites of His, all His apostles, had fallen asleep?

Who was that?

Is that strange?

(Jozef continues to read.)

“May I know from you what is meant by ‘soul’?”

That is your God, that is God as soul.

God as spirit, the spirit in you, that is all the human personality as space, feeling, life.

But the soul is the divine core in you.

That is the divine attunement which you are as a soul.

You must awaken that.

Awaken by means of the good.

Do you also already understand that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Then we are quick, madam.

“I ask this because some people claim that the soul of every human being is immediately created by God ...”

Madam, that is God.

Clear?

Really clear?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

My thanks, madam.

My thanks, then we can continue.

(Jozef continues to read.) “ ... while other people think that God gave the human being a kind of power of creation so that the soul of the child is produced from nothing, that the soul existed before the formation of the body.”

Yes, madam, the divine core was already there, then the spiritual world and then the material world had to begin.

But now we must go to ‘The Origin of the Universe’, and now you will get six, seven and eight; you now get seven, eight and nine (the three books ‘The Origin of the Universe’ were the 7th, 8th and 9th books which were received by Jozef Rulof), and then you get to see the divine soul as space, the All-Soul, the All-Spirit, the All-Fatherhood and All-Motherhood.

The divine soul lives in us, we are that as human beings, but by means of the good, we awaken, build up that soul, we bring it to evolution by means of justice, harmony and the love, the real Christ.

Satisfied, madam?

Then I thank you sincerely.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Excellent.’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Excellent.’

Thank you, madam, because you have a beautiful feeling.

I have another question, but it also refers to that one from this evening; I can put it aside.

Ladies and gentlemen, have I given you something?

(Hall): ‘Yes.

Oh yes.

Yes, you did.’

Listen carefully: On Sunday morning the masters will speak in Diligentia at ten o’clock, and you must hear them, ladies and gentlemen, because Jozef Rulof is just a big dope. (laughter)

I thank you for your attention.

(People clap.)