Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

(Hall): ‘Good evening.’

We will begin with the first question.

‘Children who are born deaf-and-dumb, is this a physical or a mental disorder?

With different parents I sometimes see children who are not at all normal.

They are those Mongols, mongol types.’

They are called mongols.

What a strange name that is, mongols.

Why do they call those children mongols?

Mongols.

Why not apathetic, half-conscious?

They just give those children a name.

A mongol, Mongol races (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org); is that because this child perhaps has to do with the Mongol races there at the back of Siberia?

We have a mongol.

Oh, then we must just ask what that is, a mongol.

I think that name is terrible.

‘ ... Mongol types.

They all look like each other, they say.

They have those split-eyes.

Why is that?’

From who is that?

Madam, that child has the same eyes as I do.

But split-eyes have to do with something, madam.

And now I want to give you this evening, after all those hundreds of lectures about that psychology ...

There are people who participate in magnetizing, and they also have power, and they are it, and then they go, and then they do it.

I would like to ask those healers: what kind of phenomenon is that?

A mongol with split-eyes.

Why do those children have such narrow eyes?

I believe that the doctor does not know either, you know.

Just a tingling like that.

Don’t you know it?

You do not know it.

You do not know any of it.

A mongol type, a child which comes into the world because of that state, ladies and gentlemen, is half-conscious.

And still not even half-conscious either.

Because, you probably believe, this soul, this life, had lived millions of times.

But this life comes here on earth, and is apathetic, psychopathic.

They are psychopathic children, they suffer at the moment from spiritual abnormality, spiritual unconsciousness, but have their completely normal body.

And then, one has this, and that one has that.

There was also a boy like that of about ten years old lying in my garden down there this summer.

And then: ‘Wrluh, wuh.’

Oh, and then those little hands and little legs.

I think: yes, I can imagine that his mother ...

There were murders enough.

Parents who had a child like that, they could no longer stand it and killed a child like that.

Put it to sleep, then it was gone.

But you do not do that lightly; if you have a little bit of feeling you do not do that, and if you are a mother, you do not do it at all.

Because that mother is happier with that weak child than with the healthy ones which she has.

Then she says: ‘Because I get much more love from that child.’

There you are again.

We had a gentleman here, he always came here, I do not see him anymore, he was a bit sad during that time, then he came, then he says: ‘Yes, I have three of them.

And there is also a dumb one.

And this week he fell from upstairs, from the second floor, down onto a terrace, well, two, three metres high.

I think: well, now it is over.

And we will be rid of him.

Because it is not life, sir.’

That man talked like that.

But there was nothing wrong with the child.

He says: ‘But that other one falls from the chair and breaks an ankle.’

He says: ‘You cannot even destroy this one.’

I say: ‘Come on, don’t talk like that.

Man, don’t talk like that: destroy.’

I say: ‘Just come and listen sometime.’

‘Yes, they already told me that.’

Then I explained those laws for that child here one evening.

He painted.

He had his eyes popping out at my paintings.

Then he was almost standing weeping, he says: ‘Oh, oh, oh, if only I had that, perhaps it would give me support.’

I give him a thing.

Fine.

Yes, it did help him a bit, it gave him support.

But they were still left facing those Mongols, those apathetic states, and they did not know it.

They look at them every day.

And half of society, ladies and gentlemen, is psychopathic.

Those split-eyes come ...

Do you still not know it?

It is all so perfectly simple.

That cosmology, this is cosmology ...

Yes, madam?

(Lady in the hall says something about the day-consciousness.)

You are close.

If the arm is already twisted, and the body cannot do it, and has that and that, then it should also affect other organs, mustn’t it?

They look through those eyes, and they do not have the – you should hear how simple – they do not have the full consciousness.

So that moves away.

When Jongchi paints through me, that Chinese monk, after a short while I am also a Chinaman; then, so only because of that influence, then those eyes already pull here.

Then it tightens.

I just look like a half Chinaman, with a face from The Hague.

But these are types of lives, madam, who experience their karmic laws and their cause and effect, they have not kept the laws of space, the life laws of God.

And what is not keeping the laws?

Do you see?

In this life, if you are conscious, then you can let rip as strongly and as loudly and as much as you want, then a great deal must happen for you to send yourself back to the apathetic.

You can go crazy because of alcohol, and because of: you just live it up.

For example, you have conscious craziness and unconscious craziness.

Also conscious possession and unconscious possession.

You have art ...

You have possession through art.

Sick and healthy psychopathy, craziness.

It is all true and can be analyzed, because those laws exist.

But when a child like that enters the world, then that soul like that, that life of feeling has crushed the organic life, the tissues, in that cell state, that embryo.

And still not destroyed, because then you get a miscarriage.

And that also happens.

Because a miscarriage cannot happen if that mother is in harmony with and for the birth.

And you do not attract any psychopathy if you do not have attunement, already as parents, to that soul, to that life of feeling.

Science still has to establish all of that.

But this is spiritual psychology.

The spatial psychology is direct cosmology because this life, that soul ...

(Jozef breaks): ... just let those people come in if they have to be here.

... because this life irrevocably ...

(To the person who comes in): ... madam, sit down.

... irrevocably begins with new lives.

And now you get pre-stages, that means, you get states by means of which the soul therefore experiences a contact with the mother, the egg, the cell, and because of the feeling, because of this awakening the life of feeling squashes that cell.

And that happens five, six, seven times, until that personality, which is now awake, remains in harmony, to a certain extent, with the body; but thinks and feels completely psychopathically, disharmonically.

And now the embryo continues to grow, you get the child, and then the child is put together like that.

You see a distorted life of feeling, and the body of your mongols (see article ‘Psychopathy’ on rulof.org) is also like that.

Do you know them now?

That life, that organism is now open to us as clear as daylight.

And now the human being can begin.

That child is not learning anything, madam.

Is he?

But thousands of psychopaths learn more than the human being who reads books, follows lectures, and wants to master something.

What is that due to?

Socrates once said: ‘The crazy people are walking in the street, they are the mentally ill.

But the normal ones are locked up.’

And that is irrevocably true.

You are now sitting here, and you can think.

But now pre-act what I do, what I have to do, just climb into this life of feeling of mine, then in one night, in one hour of thinking you will be completely crazy and be out of it.

You cannot deal with that.

I know what it cost me.

And I know how many lives are needed in order to prepare yourself for that.

Now you can say ...

You will come back soon to another life, and you have not lived it up, you are still in harmony, you can keep going in society ...

Because all the things you possess are nothing else than social life of feeling and consciousness, you have nothing else.

Do you accept that?

You are nothing else either.

But you can, with the social part you can lay spiritual foundations if you accept and experience the laws of God and Christ.

And then you already stop of your own accord – I am always talking about it – with talk and gossip, lies and deception.

Then you do not violate things which you do not possess.

And then you do not go from upstairs in a dress in order to magnetize the mother’s stomach; you do that from a distance.

Those people exist.

And then you do not talk like that and that, but then you start to experience the things, you experience the laws as they were created, in harmony.

And then you should see all the things which go overboard from the human being, for the human being.

And if you do not begin with that, then you do not get to see and accept anything else than social consciousness ‘beyond the coffin’.

And I can immediately tell you what that world is like: then just take part III (‘A View into the Hereafter’), and then you will immediately live on the border of the Land of Hatred, at least if you still lie and cheat and gossip like that, here somewhere like that.

Yes, you are laughing, but it is the truth, madam.

They are the things by means of which the human being can awaken.

And those psychopaths, those pathetic people, madam, are all busy awakening.

But did you think – I said a moment ago, in the beginning – that they did not bear, get the title of a little princess or a noble title, and that they carried out a task somewhere on the earth?

You perhaps met them before, if it is a girl, as a lovely princess, a beautiful woman.

A gentleman, a priest.

And now they have succumbed.

They lived it up completely by means of hundreds of thousands of things.

They experienced the whole dictionary.

You will feel, with what chaos this life of feeling stands before that divinely immaculate, pure, crystal-clear cell as material in the mother.

There is nothing wrong with it, because the organism of the human being has remained divinely immaculate and pure.

Only we have banged those little doors and those little windows closed with nice things and ugly things.

There is no longer a view.

We have locked ourselves up in misery and darkness.

And that is the life of the human being.

Isn’t it?

But there is nothing wrong with the cell in the mother, it cannot be influenced, calmly continues; and that is the divine state of purity for the mother, and the birth, on earth.

Of course you can write another twenty-five books about your question.

This is so deep.

Because now we follow all the characters, the lives of feeling of a child like that, in comparison to the other states.

One person has this consciousness, the other has that consciousness; there is still no consciousness.

But now we start to follow the reincarnation, see lives, and then finally we put aside another five, or ten, twenty lives, five, six, seven lives, and then you get the normal human life back again.

Those people, those psychopaths, ladies and gentlemen, those mongols – all the peoples of the earth suffer from that, have thousands, thousands of crazy people, also religious maniacs – they are all recovering and experience themselves.

To come back to Socrates, Socrates said it: The crazy people are walking in the street, and they have locked up the normal ones.

They are absolutely spatially divinely normal, because those people experience their normal state.

You too?

All of us?

Are you really busy thinking harmonically, spiritually?

Yes?

We are in a mess again, aren’t we?

How difficult it is, but how difficult it is to think.

How difficult it is to be perfectly simply warm-hearted, true.

Well?

Yes?

Yes.

(Someone in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘We are all warm-hearted.’

We all are, aren’t we?

What?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘We are all that, warm-hearted.’

We are all warm-hearted.

Yes.

Good heavens, how good we are, don’t you think?

And when we come ‘beyond the coffin’ later, we will go from this little body, then we will just say up above: ‘And do not say anything about me, because I was good.

I look great.

When will the cakes come?’ (laughter)

And then a second-hand Gabriel comes there again.

Because the real one is sitting ... (There is warm laughter.)

What are you laughing at again, sir?

Because the real Gabriel is with Our Lord, and he throws us out of the first sphere.

He says: ‘Go away, whippersnapper.’

And that human being, or that angel, he looks into our face and then we still have those slit-eyes, you see, those small narrow eyes, and the curls from the ladies’ hair have gone.

And we do not have a fold in our trousers.

We are wearing a suit, yes, now we are still the gentleman, and the shoes are polished.

But we are sticky there.

It is as if those men are those old, real old pre-war glue pots. (laughter)

You should say that to a theosophist, or a sophist, or whatever.

Yes, madam.

But I am just hammering that whole microphone again. (laughter)

Madam, they are the laws for life and death, for rebirth, reincarnation.

And, you will feel, I can have something to do with it, but I already end up in those crazy people, and then I talk nonsense, do you see?

It is remarkable, but that influence from the paper already sends me to the mongol race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org).

And soon I will stand talking nonsense here.

I will take it over immediately.

But I told it, if it is already in a suit, it is also in the paper.

Graphology immediately works on my life of feeling.

You must not put down so many of those things here, because then I will also jump out the window, do you see?

But that’s it.

More questions, ladies and gentlemen?

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ... is deaf-mutism a ...’

Madam, exactly the same.

The same law, destruction.

You cannot be deaf-mute.

Now you can – you are deaf-mute – you can experience this because of a material disturbance.

Because I treated a deaf-mute child for her appendix, and I got her talking.

Do you know how?

From inside.

The mother said ...

She was already longing for the Tuesday morning when I came.

Then she said: ‘Mr Rulof, will you talk to my child again?’

I say: ‘Yes.’

And then we started to talk to each other.

Then I said spiritually to her – telepathy, isn’t it? –‘Just give your mother that red flower there.’

And then she looked at me.

Then she let herself feel, then she was sitting, then she jumped away from me and then she took the flower:‘ ... Mmmm, mmm, mmm-mm?’. Then she was standing like that.

And then that mother was already weeping buckets full of water.

Then she says: ‘Yes’, she says, ‘if only I had a little bit from you, then at least I could talk to the child.’

I say: ‘Madam, that is the spiritual being one.

If you weep even more ... Weeping alone will not help you.’

I say: ‘Just feel and think.

You weep so quickly, so soon.’

If a human being weeps in my presence, I immediately look at the colour of those tears.

I am a dangerous being, don’t you think?

There is mother crying in my presence.

I say: ‘Yes, madam, but I will not go into it’, I say, ‘because those tears mean nothing to me.’

‘Why not?’

And she continued to weep.

I say: ‘Madam, I am missing the colour.’

It came out later, because it was nothing, you know.

It was fake weeping.

You know those people, who just weep instantly.

Say an ordinary word and already weep.

You cannot even weep for real sorrow.

No.

But that mother had to weep, and I say: ‘Give your feeling to that child.

Become love.

Become love, and then her feeling will pass into you.

She will follow you of her own accord.

And you must not think about her.’

Yes, and we think the whole day.

And we even want to talk.

You must leave that life, madam.

The spiritualists too, they come to me.

I learned a lot in 1930, ’40.

‘Oh yes, my husband has gone.’

I say: ‘Madam, if you do what I want then you will get your husband back immediately, after a while.’

‘Yes, sir?’

Oh, great.

You are surely talking to him?’

I say: ‘No, I do not want to see him at all.

I will not play a contact for you.

But now you must let go of him, madam.

Your husband must be absolutely out of the picture for the moment.

You must banish him from inside.

Because your thinking is human and not spiritual.

You are still sitting with him at the table.

And he must go.

That glass which is standing there and the plate ...’

‘Yes, I will do that then, then I will at least have something.’

I say: ‘Madam, you are attached to that, to that empty plate.’

I say: ‘Put a delicious ...

Yes, now what?

Put an ice-cream on it or something.

Put something nice on it, perhaps animals will come then.

But your spirit man will not come.’

I say: 'Because he no longer eats a meat ball.

Or he will look bad in the hereafter, do you see?'

I say: ‘I know those stalls with fried fish over there.’

I say: ‘But those, those who ask for a fish and a drink there, don’t look great either.’

You can also experience a cinema there too.

Puh.

I say: ‘Madam, release him, let him go, let him go.

You have a beautiful feeling, and it is possible.

But do not think about him, release him completely, because then he can build up a path in order to come to you in a different way than you used to talk to him.

Because that person must go.

Because if he thinks through you, then it is yourself again.’

Have you read ‘Spiritual Gifts’ properly?

For everything I do, I must always go into the epileptic sleep.

I must be completely nothing for the masters, then they can work.

And now it is right again – have you read ‘Jeus III’? – I was not allowed to learn anything.

But then not a word either.

Later when I could use something, with that boy at the garage, for example, who said: ‘Where have you been, boss?’

I say: ‘In Diligentia, they were giving a recittal there.’

Then he says: ‘That is called recital.’

I say: ‘Here, a quarter.’

‘Are you serious, boss?’

I say: ‘Buy a packet of cigarettes.

If you have any more: I would like to learn.’

Oh well, I could put that in my pipe and smoke it.

But I must not try to learn it; then I was already gone.

And you have to take that away from the human being, if you want to get contact.

Do you want to heal?,

I said to you.

But you are not doing what I do.

Because you cannot even do it, because those material, social thoughts are still in you.

So you must be completely, already in your subconscious ...

Listen.

When do you attract inspiration – you should ask me – for healing, for example, contact?

Then you must already be completely harmonically spiritual, loving in your subconscious, or that flow will not leave you, because there are holes here.

Well, now you must build up a new contact, and that is only possible when you release yourself completely from your loved one.

And then you will get him back spiritually.

But that contact will be different, of course.

And that is exactly the same as that mother with that child.

And after five, four weeks – I already had that appendix better in three treatments – then master Alcar says: ‘We will also help her nerves a little.’

And then I came there for a while for myself when I was in the neighbourhood.

Because that child already missed me, do you see?

I say: ‘Madam, I also just treated your child from outside, otherwise you would really have lost her.’

That danger is also there.

The mother would have lost her child, madam.

Because the child had contact with me, and not with the parents.

I was once playing outside with friends, and there was also a child like that there, years ago, before the war.

Now you can see how true that all is.

Yes, you cannot take it away from me anyway, because I experienced everything myself.

I am only talking from what I got to know, and what I experienced.

I therefore got a wonderful school.

I am playing outside.

It was in 1937.

And we are sitting there in Wassenaar, and that man has a girl and a boy with him, and that boy was about five years old.

I go and play with that boy.

I go and hide.

That father just had that child dangling.

The parents do not stand on their heads.

I stood on my head for another person’s child.

I am just that crazy.

‘But I am crazy, and because of that craziness I also got something, and you did not, father.’

Do you see?

If men are like that, then I say: ‘Oh yes?’

Then they say something else.

Remember that I am coming back, because I touch on so many problems that I forget four of them automatically.

But another person says: ‘I would like to experience a vision one day, or a contact.’

I say: ‘Sir, you can already get that tomorrow if you want that.’

‘Are you serious?’

I say: ‘Yes.’

I say: ‘The divine laws always work.’

I say: ‘Put fifty, sixty guilders in your pocket and walk in a poor area, then you will be rid of them just like that.’

But only because of a spiritual contact.

And then you will also get to hear from that other person: ‘Sir, I was counting on that.’

Everyone can say that, but now you touch the good.

Then he says: ‘Yes, but that will cost me money.’

I say: ‘Sir, I have never paid any attention to money, do you see?’

I say: ‘I prefer the spiritual contact and the experiencing to that money.’

I say: ‘I must not have anything in my pocket either, or I will be away.

I will be away immediately.’

You are laughing at that, but it is true, madam.

I am immediately away.

Yes, this is why I do not want to have any more visions because I have experienced enough of them.

I have become penniless because of my visions.

But from inside it sounds ...

I built up a bank of spiritual possession and consciousness.

But I also had to give my material money for that, madam.

Do you not believe it?

Enough proof.

You will get that later in the Cosmology in Diligentia.

It will be good.

But now back to that lady, to that child.

I am playing and I move further and further away, I am outside, and those people are sitting there chatting to each other- my wife was also there, so she can immediately say whether I am lying – and I went away.

I went at least from here to the Laan van Meerdervoort, through bushes and trees and everything, and then I went and sat in a hollow.

And then I thought about him.

And at once he was standing above the hollow: 'Haha, uncle, I have just found you!'

I say: ‘Boy, you are a treasure.’’

We go back.

I think: now I must stop.

At night the child awakes and asks for uncle Jozef.

What do the parents say, what does that man say?

‘That cursed man has put a spell on my child.’

(Hall): ‘Ooh.’

People gone.

I say: ‘Now I was nice to his child, which he was not, and now I am bewitched too.’

Madam, sir, it is so dangerous to know this.

I may not interfere in anything.

Master Zelanus once said in Amsterdam to the people: ‘André has no friends.

‘I do not have any either.

Even if you associate with me day and night, then you will still not nearly have me.

Because you will never get me, sir.

Because if I start to think of you, then you do it differently, as you should do it.

So I may never go into friends.

Just be pleased that I do not look at you, because you will act under my influence just like that.

Do you believe that?

It is nice.

But then I was possessed again.

And that is now contact, madam.

Think, think, think.

I said to that mother: ‘Madam, I only did it at fifty percent, otherwise you would have lost your child.’

And that child from those people continued to ask for three days for uncle Jozef, uncle Jozef.

And: ‘Father, why do you not play with me then?’

That was not playing, sir, madam.

If you really want to have contact with your children, madam, mother, I can teach you it.

But I always get thrown in my face: ‘Yes, because you do not have them yourself.’

If I say to the people: ‘Is that an upbringing?’

‘Oh well, then you must first have them yourself.’

I say: ‘Yes, myself.’

Then you are at a loss.

Then you cannot get rid of anything, anything more.

Because it is them.

They have it.

But they do not talk inwardly with those children, sir.

Sir, the father and the mother cannot do it themselves.

And if you also want to learn something ...

And you do not have any time for that either, because this is spatial, spiritual psychology.

But you are standing before it.

That child stands before you, and was born through yourself, mother, but you do not even have a spiritual contact.

How poor we are, don’t you think, sir?

Yes, the mother and the father are still – will I say it in the dialect from ‘s-Heerenberg? – completely poor.

And that is the truth, sir, because you can learn it every day.

I can bring up mothers, I can bring up fathers, bring up the family.

But they do not accept anything from me.

I will not start on about it either, because you will feel, it will become a chaos.

I learned to precisely keep out of what does not concern me.

I talk very little.

You do not get orchids from me just like that.

Because I learned to only be able to speak when the law itself says: just come on.

But how do you talk?

If I follow the people here like that, then they talk far too much, don’t they?

If only they started to think, to think, to think.

And if only they left something alone.

I warn them so often.

And I am talking to all of you.

But – I do not want to hold a sermon this evening- it is coming to that, if you start to answer those questions, and you get those wonderful lectures.

And you want to be something soon ‘beyond the coffin’, ladies and gentlemen: this is the hereafter.

You live eternally.

There is no Grim Reaper.

What do you wish to begin with immediately, soon?

Yes.

We are in a mess again.

I will just stop otherwise you will not sleep tonight.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof?’

Yes, madam.

(Lady in the hall): ‘May I ask something about a deaf-mute child?’

Yes.

‘I have acquaintances who also have a deaf-mute child, and that lady told me: that child is deaf-mute because she had such a bad life with her husband.’

That is nonsense, madam.

Nonsense.

That is rubbish.

A bad life with her husband.

That child was born like that.

And it is, it is ninety-nine percent a spiritual state and not a material disorder, do you see?

But there are also material disorders, and they manifest themselves or they happen between the third and the fourth month.

But, let’s say, five percent at the most out of a hundred is a material disorder.

The rest is spiritual destruction.

That is the personality.

It is the lightest grade for psychopathy.

Clear?

You now get seven transitions to the level.

Descend seven times, and then you will stand before the real psychopath for the first time.

And if you also go over that, then you will therefore get the ripping between spirit and material, ripping, and then they lie like that, then they do not have any feeling, they are paralyzed.

Who said something over there?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I will just tell that lady that.’

But, miss, you must say to that lady: ‘Just let Piet, or Herman, that husband whom she has, talk.

And just take care of yourself and the child.’

We have someone here amongst us who had a child like that, he says: ‘The most beautiful one I had, wasn’t it, but it is now gone.’

It is petrified.

And then another pair came.

But it was that child.

And it is also that.

Because now you get being one.

And that man went into that child, into the life of feeling.

He says: ‘Without you realising it ...’

You see, then everyone agrees with me.

Our books are getting meaning for those people.

‘Without you wanting it or realizing it, the child has already crawled into you and is talking to you.

And then you sit and cry.’

He says: ‘Yes, if only I still had the child, only to hold her every day like that and to come to.’

Yes, all the things the human being clings to, don’t you think?

Anything else over that mongol state?

Sir?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Yes, sir.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘You said a moment ago that the subconscious must have a spiritual, harmonic contact.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The subconscious must have a spiritual, harmonic contact in order to be able to go into those laws.’

Into which laws?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘In this case, with the deaf-mute child, in order to touch the life of feeling of that child by means of which the inner self could experience, could see what another person wanted.

Yes.

How is that connected to each other?

How should we see that, that child with regard to this person who wants to lay his subconscious in there?’

Oh, do you want to start on it too?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, I am asking that now.’

Haha.

No, look, sir, how should you do that?

In the first place you must express yourself more clearly.

That is not to rap you on your fingers, but: what is the connection between the subconscious and that day consciousness and that life of feeling, what is the connection?

Now you must begin: subconscious is feeling.

And the life of feeling reacts in the day consciousness.

People talk about subconscious, but it really does not exist, you know.

Because the life of feeling represents the subconscious, both.

But because we have learned that through the masters, the grades of sleep lie there and there, the ripping loose of the material comes there, and the grades lie behind that, they are the millions of lives which we have had, millions of lives.

What did we master in those lives?

And that all lies in there.

And now you wish to know, how that reacts in day consciousness for a deaf-mute child?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Sir, it does not react at all.

If there is a question of reacting, the material must be able to reveal itself.

The child reacts, feels from inside.

But it is not reacting.

There is no venting of emotions possible because the child is deaf-mute, lacks the means, the material organs in order to be able to vent its emotions, to pass on something.

So, there is thinking and feeling inside a deaf-mute child, but no venting of its feelings.

Because that possibility does not exist.

Clear?

Anything else?

Because this is interesting.

I have here: ‘Someone gives a patient Opial injections on the doctor’s advice.

Is this person doing a good thing?’

From who is that?

‘And may people refuse radiation treatment when cancer is diagnosed?’

Madam, someone gives injections on the doctor’s advice.

Why?

There are diabetic patients, madam, who treat themselves.

And that is also possible here.

But this is not a patient under my treatment, you must ask the doctor that.

(Lady in the hall): ‘I wanted to have a spiritual answer, and not a medical answer.’

Yes, but, look here, madam, if you are being treated by a doctor, then we cannot go to Peter and say: ‘What do you think of that?’

And then Gabriel appears again and says: ‘Go away, get away from me.’

Yes, you are laughing, sir, but Gabriel is the chief before you can enter those planets.

A guard is needed, isn’t he?

Or did you think that they did not have any guards in the heavens?

You should just read those books, those old books, occult books.

They have those old guards there with spears and suits of armour, and they fling you into hell?

No, you will not come out of there.

Because there is just one door. (laughter)

And that door goes so high, do you see?

But I crawled under it.

They do not have the consciousness of a mole there.

Yes, madam, but we have that, you know.

Because we always crawl under the foundations like that.

And then we have a look round the corner, and if it is safe, isn’t it true, everything ready, then: in to it, or out of it.

Madam, those diabetic patients do that too.

And this is a question which you must present to the doctor.

‘May people refuse radiation treatment when cancer is diagnosed?’

May ...

Madam, if you all have cancer now here this evening ...

Let’s hope not.

I will just not think of cancer, otherwise you will perhaps have it in a fortnight, and then I have it again, you see.

Then they will say: ‘He also gives you cancer.

Because otherwise that man would talk about it, wouldn’t he?’

Is that possible, madam?

You are in the hospital, it is up to you.

Beeinflussung, von Gladiatoren.

Madam, these cancer specialists will certainly know now what you can bear: yes or no.

But if, I wanted to tell you, if all those people were really under influence, then you are also all different.

They are the gladiators who sit in your feeling.

Then none of you can be reached by means of that grade, but one must have an extra doze.

Even deeper, even deeper.

And that radiation treatment can most certainly burn you inwardly.

(Lady in the hall): ‘I experienced that with someone.’

Yes, experienced.

Madam, there were women who came to visit me before the war, and that continued, of course.

But the doctors at the Zuidwal, and all the hospitals ...

Radiation treatment for this, first an operation, or radiation treatment for that.

You have read ‘The Peoples of the Earth’.

But the majority of them were walking there and were burned completely, inwardly, materially.

And that is even worse than the cancer.

Sir, that is a burning pain and everything.

We had some who screamed.

And the flow, the powers, the magnetism of the masters was even stronger than the radium.

And it cooled down.

Then she says: ‘Oh, oh, oh, it is as if I am going into a tepid, almost cold, bath; now everything has gone.

And we had conquered it after three months.

Imagine what a human being can achieve.

The aura of the human being can be stronger than the radium.

But those doctors do not know your grade of tissue, do not know your life of feeling with regard to those organs, they do not know the sensitivity of your personality, they have to take that into account.

Because that material works in according to the feeling.

And now one person burns, and the other person can have even more.

And in this way everything is different, and you must ask your doctor about that again.

This is therefore a general answer.

Otherwise you will just leave the doctor, and I will be blamed again.

So the lady who is having radiation treatment must ask the doctor: ‘Doctor, what do you think?

I have those and those symptoms.’

And that doctor will also ask that.

Because by means of that, they have learned to do much during those years when the radium came, have learned such a great deal about those radiation treatments; because everyone was whining for that.

Well, there were thousands who were walking round with a radium hangover, as the doctors called that, and did not have an hour of peace anymore.

And there are thousands of them.

And here in Europe it is already a few million.

So those doctors have learned from those millions of people.

And at the moment they are gradually attuning to the life of feeling of the human being, the man, the mother.

And then they say: ‘Yes.’

It is already that far, a lady came to me during that time, she says: ‘Mr Rulof, what is that now?

Those doctors, Mr Rulof, are making progress.’

I say: ‘So, madam.’

‘Yes, they asked me whether I would perhaps like to have some nice reading.

“Do you like spiritual books?”

I say: “Yes, doctor, I read the books by Jozef Rulof.”

“Yes, there are more people here like that.”

Now the doctor already takes the radiation treatment into account.

You see, already purely gauging the feeling.

And he must hear that from you.

He cannot sense you.

I go, we see your aura, we are coming for you ...

If I wanted to have a job, and I was to go to the Zuidwal or to a doctor, and I say: ‘Doctor, may I give you the proof that I can give radiation treatment to that woman exactly as you have the knowledge?’

I say: ‘Because she gets so much, the aura is that and that and that, the life of feeling is like that: She can have that, so much time.’

Then he says: ‘Where did you get that from?’

I say: ‘Yes, I have it from Our Lord.

Where did you get it from?’

And it was spot-on.

People are already thinking for the feeling.

And according to the consciousness, feeling ...

A dancer comes, also something.

Then she says ...

‘Do you do art?’

‘Yes, I dance.’

She got yet a different radiation treatment.

(To someone in the hall): ‘Say, sir, but we have not made it yet.

Is it not a bit too hot?

Then we descend into the hells.’

So, lady ...

It is also hot in hell, but otherwise ...

You will tell that lady that she will surrender to the doctor.

I thought that we were already that far, but that is going a bit too fast.

Or do you have any more questions?

Do you have any more questions about this?

Madam, you are talking; I am also talking.

Did you have another question?

(Lady in the hall says something inaudible.)

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I am saying to her: “Ask it then.”’

(Other lady): ‘Yes, but how?’

(Yet another lady in the hall): ‘What does she mean?’

(Lady in the hall): ‘That she gives those injections.

I say: ask it then.

That is probably not very comfortable.’

They are already working it out together.

Madam, you can just have those injections.

A sister can show you how – just tell it to that lady – and then you will get those injections, because the doctor knows exactly what you are injecting.

So that is not harmful, that is not dangerous.

As long as you just give it in the place where they have to be.

What did you say, madam?

You cannot give them here, in the eyes.

We will continue.

I have here: ‘In ages which lie behind us mostly all the laws for the man and the woman ... lived in the shadow of the man.’

(Jozef has difficulty pronouncing the sentence.)

I must have a look at that.

(Noise in the hall.)

Everything is starting to move.

Did you write all of that letter?

‘In ages which lie behind us mostly all the laws were for the man and the woman lived in the shadow of the man.’

But that cannot be right.

‘At least in an official area.’

That on top of everything else.

From who is that then?

Well, madam ...

Now I know that is a lady.

Then I will be a bit careful, of course, you see.

But now you must help me with what you mean.

‘In the ages which lie behind us mostly all the laws were for both the man and the woman ...’

(From the hall): ‘No, no ...’(laughter)

I am now ...

Well, I will say it again.

‘In the ages which lie behind us mostly all the laws were for the man and ...’

(Hall): ‘No.’

What are you laughing at? (laughter)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘After ‘man’ there should be a comma.’

Yes, but it does not say that.

You can say that.

I may not go outside of those letters.

I must read it as it is written.

Madam, you are not angry, are you, it does not matter, does it?

You forgot something, of course.

‘In the ...’

Well, one more time.

‘In the ages which lie behind us mostly all the laws were for the man ...’

(Lady in the hall): ‘So.

Full stop.’

(Hall): ‘Comma.’

Oh yes, yes, yes.

‘ ... and the woman lived in the shadow of the man.’

Now I have worked it out.

‘At least in an official area.’

Is it not still like that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, it is fine like that.’

‘During our time the woman works in all areas for equality with the man and has already achieved this equality in a great deal of areas.

How do you explain this increased activity of the woman in this century?

Does this have to do with the several incarnations as man which the woman has now experienced?’

Madam, this is quite simply social feeling and thinking.

For instance, a time ago ...

You should hear how crazy – and that question is heading there – how crazy our society is.

You have all experienced that enormous battle – we in the country not so badly, but here in The Hague you did, and everywhere – that there was fighting for the human, family, man and woman, haven’t you?

The mother must be with the children, mustn’t she?

And the mother must accept the task of the family.

Then everything also ran aground where the mother went out the door.

Don’t you remember that?

You should read in the papers, madam, now they want to have the lady back to the factory, and to the office.

The world has purely turned itself over.

Last week it was on the radio, the VARA had it.

I say: ‘There you are now.’

At the end that man said: ‘It is up to you what you do.

But what do you hope to achieve at your age?’

‘I want to serve.’

Hahaha, then they start to serve.

Why do they not serve for a hundred percent for those poor mites which they have at home?

No, then they have to go to the office, or they still have to do this or still do that.

Those mothers have to go out the door.

The woman must also do something.

What was fought for, for life and death, for fifty years, is now put aside again just like that.

Because this age is insane, the mother must just look for a job again.

Then he says: ‘But you do not need it, we have absolutely enough.’

No, she wanted it; she does it too and she did it.

And then you get women and a few men, but mainly a few mothers, who told what they did then.

‘Yes, you can still do something.’

Yes, what is it about?

In order to save up for a car, a cinema, some money aside, yes.

Yes, I probably do not understand it.

Perhaps I am backward.

But you will feel, here, the gentlemen who used to fight for that.

And the ladies for society, who fought battles there, because it concerned the mother.

And the church, day and night just writing in those church news sheets about: the mother must be at home, and the mother for the children, and the mother ...

That is going overboard again just like that.

Madam, what would you want?

What would you want with this, with these questions?

What does it mean?

I will only explain this to you: the age in which you live is absolutely insane.

(Lady in the hall): ‘How is it that it is like this nowadays?’

I can tell you that in two minutes, madam.

Do you know Picasso?

He used to be a painter.

Now he is a bungler.

But those pieces of rubbish of his ...

It is coming ...

Recently there was something in the paper again, he had a few strips there like that, there a piece of a fortress.

Another gentleman comes there, an art expert, who says: ‘That is worth a hundred and fifty thousand guilders.’

Yes, who gives it for that.

Picasso himself says to the Italian writer ...

(To the lady in the hall): I also have that from you in it.

... when that writer says: ‘Sir, how do you feel when you look at those paintings?’

He says: ‘Then it is like I am crazy.’

He says: ‘And I feel so awful.

When I just look at that destruction, and all those things, those scratches, then I vomit from misery, and unwillingness, because the world is so insane.’

He says: ‘But I earned money from that, and I am now famous.’

He says: ‘This is not art.

I am a liar and a fraud.

But the world swallows it.’

Who is crazy now?

Picasso?

Because Picasso makes millions from that nonsense, is he therefore crazy?

You see again, madam, the crazy people do not paint.

No, they are the normal ones.

But the crazy ones buy that nonsense.

It is still true.

But the lady, madam, the mother ...

What does the lady live for at the moment in society, and for what purpose did God actually create mothers?

I do not know whether you will be angry with me, but ...

I am not a hateful person, but such a servicewoman, I could spit in her face like that.

I see a piece of newspaper there with photographs and the mother is standing there, the captain then, or the lieutenant, I know, the major, and then there is also another mother standing there and she must be sworn in.

‘So help me God almighty.’

God, God, God, my God, my God, why did you not beat her crazy?

Yes, the world must hear that.

But I want to shout it out at the Groenmarkt: ‘Woman, mother, think of giving birth and creation.’

Oh well, we have ...

I was in America, madam.

Here in Holland we are still chaste, and the ladies, the mothers are really mothers.

But I once saw a wrestling mother there on the television.

Two ladies in the ring.

They were free wrestling just like those men.

Did you ever experience that?

Perfectly simple.

You can see that everywhere in America.

I was sick from it the whole week.

They twisted each other’s breasts off just like that.

Kicked each other just like that.

Torn a leg out, madam.

And one was flung over the stage by her hair.

They were finished off and broken like animals.

And then another girl came, like that, and she had such a thin woman there.

I think: ‘Child, what are you starting?’

And she enters that ring.

You see, she had such elbows.

And a half Chinese gets hold of that worm, I think: oh, oh, she will make mincemeat of you.

I say: ‘Oh, I cannot look anymore, I cannot look anymore!’

I could not sleep for four nights.

The devils from space were heading for me.

It is perfectly ordinary there; they are mothers.

Oh well, madam, that is still just sport.

We had mothers during the war who had sten guns in front of them and said: Rrrrrrrrrrrr.

‘Is it fifteen of them?’

‘Oh yes, fifteen.’

‘Hop.’

They were nazis, they were members of the national socialist movement.

Dutch ladies. Dutch mothers were walking with sten guns, and they blew the rest of the world to the ground.

Then wrestling is not so bad after all.

Look, and those comparisons here with the earth, with society, with Europe ... you can accept, the Dutch mother is still not so bad.

But what do you hope to achieve in society?

Does the mother ...

Do you want spiritual building up?

Madam, I will just tell you it this evening, I have absolutely nothing to say at home.

She is the boss.

Yes, why?

Because this character does not make any mistakes in that, I am not allowed to interfere in that anymore.

It all happens of its own accord.

It is just how it should be.

I sometimes look over a stair there at our house.

That woman comes ...

I say: ‘How well off you are with me, aren’t you?’

That man says ...

That wife comes in: ‘Say, Nico’, yes, that is not Nico van Rossen, ‘say, give me eighteen cents quickly, I need sugar.’

The following day she needs twenty cents, because she wanted to buy a couple of smoked herring.

And I hear all of that.

I say: ‘Madam, here are ...’

Oh no, I may not do that, otherwise I would say: ‘Here are those twenty cents.’

But the guide-dog lies there, madam.

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I said: a sheep.’

The slave is walking there.

But, sir, madam, that man was right too.

If she had the purse, and now we will just begin with the lowest, the simplest, the most ordinary, then she would have spent everything in two days, and then he would not get anything to eat.

And he paid for a whole week. (laughter)

Madam, these are social problems which the human being must solve himself.

You come across them in every family.

I know people, the lady gets a hundred and twenty-five guilders a week from that gentleman, that good man.

On Thursday evenings: ‘Well, I don’t know.

It is gone.’

‘But, I had ...’

Yes.

What happened?

He wishes ...

It did not go fast enough, his wages.

Then he did it.

And then he went into the tub, and she perished, completely, because of a few cents.

And now the human being is destroying himself, because she, the mother, could not deal with money.

You all want, you all want cosmology, spiritual development, don’t you?

You want to get to know heavens and hells, God and the universe.

But, madam, it lies at home.

And if you neglect that, you neglect your whole inner spiritual self.

Because that is the one who spends the money.

You are not that material mother who deals with money there, madam, but it is from inside.

And there is something wrong from inside, and that is spiritual.

And if you cannot bring that in harmony with the other side, madam, then you will also have holes there and there will be battlefields to experience.

Because if you do not have ten cents for the tram, madam, then you must walk.

And ten cents is a lot of money.

The psychology begins here, madam, whom you are talking about.

You see, I can make all kinds of things of it.

And the divine core for building up, awakening, also lives in everything.

If only the men were that far, but if only the mothers were that far too, that they understood themselves and that they did not start to fly so high, but that it just already begins with the mat at the door.

If you come in, you will know it.

That is not a house, madam, but that is your personality which lies there.

Ugh.

Give that thing a shake, because it has not been away from the door for six months.

Yes, it is true, isn’t it?

Is it so deep, sir?

Oh, it just lies in the street gutters of the city, but you cannot see it.

You can teach children here.

Adults think: that rises above my head.

Sir, I can begin to talk with little children of seven years old, and then I will analyse the laws of God, such perfectly ordinary durch  das Spielzeug.

And it is very simple.

But you cannot think yet.

You must first begin physically at home in order to create order for your spirit.

And if you do not do that, madam, you will go just like that on the other side; you will stand before material destruction there, that mat, that chair, that table.

I talked about this once before.

I come somewhere, I am a bit early, I must help that gentleman, but that woman is busy there with the ...

Here, but always over that there.

And here, there in that corner too.(Jozef does an imitation; the people laugh.)

I think: yes, she thinks, that man does not see anything anyway.

But I saw that.

Again like that ... and then just in that corner.

But at once back to there.

(Jozef continues to rummage.)

I say to that man: ‘Is everything okay with you both?’

‘Oh yes’, he says, ‘really well.’

I say: ‘Then I will just say nothing.’

But something came the next time.

I say: ‘Yes, madam, look here’, I say, ‘you are fragmenting your personality.’

Then she says: ‘I would like to learn something.’

I say: ‘Madam, why does that get everything in a morning, and that chair got nothing.’

I say: ‘But now something even nicer, madam, do that with warm-heartedness, willingness.’

Talk to the people, and put that present over that, that gleam, over a characteristic, sir.

You talk about comradeship and friendship; polish that soft like that with that thing, day in, day out, madam, and you will have cosmology.

A self-evident truth, don’t you think?

(Jozef reacts to the light signal from the sound technician.) Yes, the light is going on.

How many minutes do I have left?

(The sound technician): ‘A minute or so.’

Look, those are the things, madam, in society.

The woman has to, in society ...

I can accept and experience hundreds of thousands of things, and I see everything, but I just say nothing.

I say it once more to the people, once more, and then once more, madam, and then you can polish and do and make and break what you like; it no longer concerns me.

But, woe betide, if it costs me money.

Do you see?

And now you get building up at home.

And now that whole house changes?

No, that whole personality starts to change.

That mother gets colours, madam.

Order.

In the first place devotion to duty.

That mother starts to do it so harmonically, she starts to divide it so spiritually truly, socially, materially, and it is an art when you see it going like that, it is all tidy, no fuss, it happens of its own accord, it speaks for itself, as long as he also makes sure that he can carry that life a bit by means of his task.

But then a mite like that comes home in the evening, and then he says: ‘Oh, just don’t talk, I am tired out.’

Oh well.

There are mothers who slave away day and night: five, six children.

Well.

Someone once comes to me – yes, I am a strange fellow, do you see? – and then ...

The people think: that man does not see anything anyway.

But I see a horrific amount, feel a lot, because they tell me themselves.

I am standing like that talking to someone.

I say: ‘I think, you like to be away from home a lot?’

‘It is nice for a while.’

Yes, when sir came home in the evenings, then he sits there looking at his offspring, six, seven, eight children.

And that is not easy after a day’s task.

But now the whole ...

And then, he just went out, didn’t he?

For the nice gossip; gone.

‘I have to go there.’

But that pressure.

And when the children were already tucked up in bed, then the lord came upstairs.

And then sometimes still with a long face.

And he never thought about that mother, madam.

But now that mother, from morning to late evening, with all those children.

But he, that brute, that scoundrel, that cad, walks away.

Yes, for another sir was and madam is love.

‘Gosh, what a nice woman, she is a good woman, isn’t she?’

And there it is sir.

‘Gosh, that man is ready for everything.’

Yes, to get out the door.

Madam, they tell me it themselves.

Do you see?

And then I wait with it for perhaps ten years, but it will come.

Perhaps I can teach the human being something.

And, sir, that is society.

Madam, I will come back to you soon, and then I will also begin with this.

But before the interval I have ...

(To the sound technician): Do I have a few minutes left?

I will also give you something in order to think before the interval.

It is very nice, especially for the human being who was brought up a Catholic.

It happened in 1942, madam, sir.

The people are walking in the street, and there is also a Jew.

Suddenly the sirens go off and then everyone has to go into the cellar.

The Jew who is walking there, has a star on his chest.

He goes over to that gentleman, he says: ‘Get out of here.’

He was a member of the national socialist movement, wasn’t he?

He says: ‘Why must I get out?’

He says: ‘Get out!’

Well, he is flung out of there.

But on the other side of the street the church is open, and he walks into the church.

He runs away, because those sirens are shrieking and the police are running about the street.

It is something, worthwhile learning.

He comes inside, and he is immediately standing before the priest.

He says: ‘What are you doing here, child?’

Then he says: ‘Father, they do not want to let me in there.

I am allowed to protect myself, amn’t I?’

Then he says: ‘Of course.’

The priest looks at his coat, he says: ‘You are a Jew, aren’t you?’

‘Yes.’

‘Would you not want to convert?’

Then he says: ‘Yes, but that cannot happen just like that.’

He says: ‘Oh well, you cannot know, our faith is nice, wonderful.

We have a God who is just.’

Oh well.

The priest also looks at him for a moment, he says: ‘Here you have rosary beads and now just sit down there.

And think about it.

And when it is over soon, then just go home.

You can never know.’

What is the case?

That Jew sits down there, and starts to pray.

He takes the first bead in his fingers, and he says: ‘My God, my God, if a God exists, from this church, just let me see that justice, because I am also a human being.

Why am I kicked out of that air-raid shelter there?’

Yes, that happened, sir.

And that happened here in The Hague.

He says something else, he says: ‘My God, my Father, if it is possible, just give me a little bit of proof.

We Jews are beaten and kicked so much.’

He lets go of that first bead and gets hold of the second bead of that rosary between his fingers, he says: ‘Yes ...’

Good gracious, he thinks, those beads give you inspiration.

He says: ‘Father of love, if that is love then, why are we so beaten in life?

Why are the Jews killed, why must I walk with that star?

I am a child of Your blood, of Your spirit, amn’t I?

I have read and studied a bit.’

He waits.

And he is about to take hold of the third bead, and suddenly there is a direct hit outside, precisely on that air-raid shelter.

And the whole lot destroyed.

The priest arrives in a hurry.

‘Moses, Moses’, the Jew shouts, doesn’t he, ‘Moses, Moses, achenebbisj, achenebbisj, I am still not on the third bead; what a faith this is!’ (laughter)

(Lady in the hall): ‘He is good.’ (laughter)

INTERVAL

I also have the question from this lady.

She writes here: ‘During our time the woman works in all areas for equality.’

You see, that is social consciousness.

You know, you will feel that yourself too, madam, this is about social consciousness.

But I am talking about the spiritual being one for the people.

And that is also social consciousness at home.

And if it does not work there, it will not work anywhere.

But what will it matter to you, and what could it matter to me, whether they are allowed to vote or not tomorrow, and whether they get in there.

The woman was allowed to ...

I used to always go to De Witte (Society De Witte in The Hague, conference club), you know? (laughter)

De Witte Society.

Yes, you are laughing.

I am connected to that club, you see?

But my wife was never allowed in.

And now we have amongst us, we gentlemen, esquire this, and baron that, he was also there ...

I say: ‘Look, people, we want to take the ladies along.’

And now the women may ...

I put in a good word for them.

Now the women are allowed to go with us once a year.

Last week we also had a ball. (laughter)

Last week we ate upstairs and downstairs we danced until we dropped.

I also danced with a ...

Oh no, that is actually none of your concern.

Because I may not talk about the club.

But, madam, that is now social consciousness.

The lady wants to have the rights there which the man has.

You will feel, if I am occupied like that, I ridicule everything.

And I am a spiritual comic.

Because I make everything which is just a bit abnormal, madam, the real just ...

You must just get to know me well here, and you will soon see that my deep sorrow and the reality lie in the nonsense, for you too.

Because if it just becomes abnormal, madam, I ridicule that situation.

And then I pick the reality out of that for our people.

And that is art, they once told me.

And this is why it is also like that, because we had comedians with wisdom, and they were priceless.

And if I get a job on the radio tomorrow, I will certainly leave you, because I will earn money with that; with nonsense, real nonsense.

And then I will quite simply begin, and then I repeat what the people say.

Did you not hear, madam, we live in 1952.

I will tell it soon.

‘Say, at the moment there is already a jurisdiction from the government, our parliament, that if a war comes, then we must be absolutely free, otherwise we will not conclude peace, you know.’

You already read that now.

And that is through, and it was broadcast on the radio.

I read it yesterday evening.

And it was really in the newspaper.

If a war comes in Europe, sir, then we must first be free, you know, otherwise we will not conclude peace.

Do you see?

Where does that come from?

‘Can you feel the nuances?’ someone says.

Can you feel the wretchedness?

The human being here has a God and Christ, and now they are already deciding, madam, that is in the newspaper, the gentlemen who sit there, they are ministers: if a war comes then we will just not  make peace, because then Belgium must also be free.

Isn’t that something?

And if a war comes in fifty years’ time, or in four, five years’ time ...

They think ...

You should hear.

We saw it during the war, what naïve people!

And they are ministers, they are professors.

There is one of them with the whole universe, there is no longer a star there, and there is not a planet to be seen, with such a forehead as intellect, because they also open up that skull.

And he is also there. (laughter)

Yes, madam, that skull is opened to see whether that man has any brains.

Because that skull ...

He has a bread roll for this.

And that is all intellect.

And those people worked it out so wonderfully, madam, in 1940 – 1945.

They let Holland flood with water.

And now they are going to start again.

They were going to let Holland flood, and then a general was standing there, like that, with four stars.

‘They will never get over it’, he says.

He says: ‘Because then they will drown, for that matter, won’t they?’

And they will never get over it.’

And they started to look at that for an extra four days.

And he was there, and he was there, and he was there, I will never forget it.

And then Adolf came.

And then there was no water.

And then they had – listen – then they had put two planks on the road, in order to stop those tanks.

There was an old shed standing there.

And then the general had to salute to that.

When I was in military service I – you have read ‘Jeus II’ haven’t you – I laughed myself silly, when that man began: ‘Attention!’

I say: ‘Go away, sir.’

He says: ‘What’s up with you?’

I say: ‘Sir, “what’s up with you?”’

I say: ‘Just go away.

“Attention.”

What is that?

Attention, what must I pay attention to?’ (laughter )

When that man made a fuss about nothing, about nothing, sir, about ...

With those puppets, there were puppets.

I say: ‘Oohohoh.’

And then that puppet started to shout.

He said: ‘Dirty scoundrel.’

See, the reality started to talk in me.

And that lets Holland flood.

And that is exactly the same.

And then I laugh, at once ...

Yesterday too.

Then my wife said: ‘What are you up to now ...’

The neighbours could hear it.

‘What are you laughing at?’

Then I laugh the whole day.

I say: ‘Listen, we will just not conclude peace if Belgium is still full of Russians, will we?’

Hahaa, I will put a placard on my back tomorrow.

I will say: ‘There will be war in four days’ time.’

And then they will all be gone. (laughter)

And they are professors, doctors, ladies and gentlemen.

You must become Minister of War for that.

You must be a Minister for Foreign Affairs for that, because otherwise you do not have the intellect.

And I cannot help it, but I was born with it.

If someone was to straighten his hat, like that ...

You have people like that, and they are wearing a hat, and they put that hat on their head like that, I think: well, I know him, don’t I.

And then they say: ‘Sir, what are you laughing at?’

I say: ‘Well, sir, you don’t put a hat on like that, do you?

There is also no fun in you at all.’

Then he says: ‘What do you want then?’

I say: ‘A bit crooked, then you will have another character immediately.’

No, it is true, you know.

And that, sir and madam, and I have to laugh at that now.

Perhaps you are laughing.

There was once a lady here, then she says: ‘I am going to Mr Rulof, then I will have a nice evening for a change, even if I get a good scolding.’

I say: ‘That is an honour for me.’

Because I am like that myself.

I told you myself: they also laugh in the heavens.

I told you that joke about Gabriel recently.

But I should really have told it completely differently, because that joke was like that.

And I get out of everything ...

The masters do it too, and that is consciousness.

I have to laugh at such a crazy minister, with such a big forehead, and a professor, a doctor, who now already says: ‘Yes, look, but we, we will not make peace, you know.

Because then Belgium, and France, must also be free.’

Great, now we agree after all.

They already did it during the war, this is why I say: they flooded Holland.

They put down a boat there, then they had to stop the tanks.

And that consciousness is now making war once more?

That war is over once more.

And they are suddenly sitting at the green table and they flatly refuse. (laughter)

‘No’, he says, ‘We discussed it then, we discussed that in 1952, didn’t we, then we were busy at the square and now we are in that reality.’

Now Belgium is still full of them, and now we do not conclude peace with Stalin.

Gah, gah, gah, gah.

And he lives in 1952?

Madam, he did a study, he became a general.

Yes, it is something, four of such wooden spoons, here.

That is professor doctor in economy, they are Ministers of War, and now already decide what will perhaps happen in five thousand years’ time.

Then they say: ‘I will just not do it.’

‘I’m out of it.’

And I ridicule that.

And the whole universal together is like that, that is our society.

I have to laugh at that.

I also wanted to tell you that other thing, but I will just stop it.

Because you will not reach a state of purity.

Why not?

It is animal-like consciousness.

In this way the human being walks past himself.

Doesn’t he?

Talked together, sir.

A general had to ... he was pushed aside.

Now I am back in it, you see.

And that man was at my home.

He says: ‘May I talk to you for half an hour?’

He was the commander-in-chief of the army and the navy, General ... (inaudible).

I say: ‘What do you want?’

I say: ‘If you come here again, then come in plain clothes.’

I say: ‘Because the people still think that I must be locked up.’

And then he says: ‘What do you think of the situation?’

I say: ‘That they will chase you away, no more than that.’ (laughter)

And four weeks later he had to leave.

He had to go.

Then they had another one again.

Well.

I say: ‘Sir, you see it.’

How is it possible?

The chief of the Indians from our people comes to me, to a fortune teller, in order to find out how the matter will work out.

That is social army-like consciousness.

Just make something of it, madam.

I know that I am a rebel.

But it is nice, you know, madam, it is true.

They should already put that in the newspapers.

The whole of Holland felt ill from it.

Because the radio also said it.

It is certainly not only me.

But a right-minded human being does not say that.

Look, the people in America say ...

For days on end you hear nothing else there than: war, war, war.

But we have it now too.

It has come over to Holland.

The psychosis, the hypnotism is already in it.

The masses are already under the influence, because every week we get a government broadcast, and then the cannons and weapons are explained to us, how they want to do it.

If you tell this outside, in the city, you are a communist.

But I am not that.

I do not want anything to do with communism.

But I get that sensible, unconscious, psychopathic thinking, I make nonsense of that.

Because it is the sacred truth.

And it now becomes art.

Hahaha, I laughed right in their faces, the gentlemen.

All kinds come to visit me.

Admirals, the highest personality, no rear admiral, like that, no, even higher, he came: ‘May I talk to you?

What an honour for me that I may speak to Jozef for half an hour.’

And two weeks later he was sitting next to the queen.

But he also came to visit me.

I say: ‘Tell her that you visit me.

Then she will perhaps come too.

Or I will come, and then I will get my two million.’ (laughter)

Yes, but now it is over.

You see, that is thinking, that is thinking.

That is seeing the nonsense, living the reality, and making something of that nonsense.

There was a lady visiting me, she said: ‘Oh, I wished that man had a little bit of you, then at least I would have a bit of cheerfulness too.’

I say: ‘If you inspire him, he will do it.’

Yes.

If the ladies began to inspire and animate the gentlemen, then we would be bubbling with spiritual vitality.

Did I put that well?

And then you get your Dichtung und Wahrheit.

We are already reciting poetry at eight o’clock in the morning while having tea, you get that immediately.

We explain the laws, madam.

And if you get me, then the tea will be cold long ago, because I will take it back to the moon.

And then it will not taste nice, of course.

Did I tell you that story?

I was in the kitchen, then my wife says: ‘Watch the milk.’

And I was standing on top of it.

Yes, the people know that.

But it is nice again for the other people.

Yes.

And I am standing watching like that, and I think: how lovely that is, because I saw it like that in space.

The space grew.

And then division and personality came.

And then I suddenly walked to the room, I say: ‘The milk is boiling over!’

Then she says: ‘What are you standing there for now?’

I say: ‘Oh yes, I was busy on the moon.’

Gone.

If you have a husband like that, it will not work either, then you will suffer misery.

But now, we will continue.

I have therefore explained that.

‘How do you explain the increased activity of the woman in our age?’

We are now already that far, madam ...

You will feel, we are certainly not making progress yet.

Certainly, if a mother is left alone with two children, and that also happens, then the mother must work.

If the husband leaves the mother, then the mother must work.

I do not understand how it is possible.

I cannot imagine that a human being, a man or a mother, or a woman, can leave their blood, or their life.

I once buried myself in that.

A gentleman came to visit me, I say: ‘But, sir, my God, my God, how is it possible.

I do not understand that it is possible.’

Can you do that?

If you have perhaps also walked out, sir, then it is not so nice.

Sir, then it is not so nice.

Then you will not agree with me anyway, then you will not agree with me anyway.

But those mothers must go into society in order to take care of those children.

And I had mothers visit me, they had done and were able to do that.

And when the child was finally twenty-one years old, then she got a slap right in her face.

Then she says: ‘Now I am still a scoundrel too.’

And then that boy was influenced by that and that at that office.

And mum, who had then given her blood in order to take care of her children, had nothing more to say.

And then she got a blow, and then she collapsed.

When she came to visit me, she had read a book.

I say: ‘Yes, child.

Yes, mother.

Sit down.

We will talk.’

I say: ‘You also have me.

And there are also other people who understand and sense you.’

A cup of tea with it.

Just the whole afternoon.

But I had her back on her feet.

She went away again.

I say: ‘Let it go, he will make amends for that later.’

But it is not so simple if the mother gets the beating in that and that way, from her own children.

You get that by means of friendship and by means of everything.

But when the mother ...

I say it again.

There you have a servicewoman like that again, I cannot stand her.

That is not allowed, of course.

But when they stand there, and then they also want to do this, then I just have to laugh, but then I always just look at the skirts.

I was once standing there looking, like that, and I just looked at that skirt.

I think: there is something wrong.

Look.

She says: ‘What do you want?’

I say: ‘Is it still permitted in this society, to look?’

I say: ‘But there is something wrong.

Because I was also in service.’

I thought: we should have had that in my time. (laughter)

Then she says: ‘Once more, and I will go to the police.’

I say: ‘Madam, it is still allowed to look in nature.

But nature has gone from here.’

It is just one big darkness.

Yes.

And they are soldiers then.

Madam, do you not feel anything for tomorrow?

With such a gun?

You see, the mother is squandered.

She is brought up socially.

While, listen, while hundreds of thousands of men, young men, have nothing to do.

They need the woman for that.

Marriage?

Haha.

Motherhood?

Madam, we still live in an animal-like consciousness.

Society is still not any different.

Those ladies ...

I do not want to ridicule those ladies, because they must know themselves what they want, for that matter.

But I say: ‘Madam, your nature has gone.’

‘Oh, is that it.’

Well, she was gone.

Well done.

I think I have ...

‘Does this have to do with the several incarnations as a man which the woman of today has experienced?’

Madam, we have had just as many lives, you as a woman and as a mother, because I am more mother than creation.

Because if you want to be a medium, or an instrument for something, what should you do then?

If you want to play the piano well ...

I can also teach all of you something.

A girl came to see me, and she played the violin.

Then she says: ‘I do not get any feeling.’

I say: ‘No, it is not yourself.

You must forget that man in you.

You must feel those strings maternally.’

And now the creating consciousness lives in that mother, because she is still not a mother.

She has just come from that body and is now standing with a violin in her hand, has feeling for art.

But it is as dry as a bone.

No, it is male.

That is much too harsh.

She sets about it like that.

But she must ...

She must forget this feeling – gone – she must be able to forget it, if she wants to touch the maternal string.

And that is the educationalist for art, violin, music, piano.

There was a gentleman sitting there hammering like a lady, like that.

And then that woman says: ‘Just hit it once.’

I say: ‘Madam, just be grateful that that man is playing so quietly.’

‘Yes’, she says, ‘it is like my grandmother.’

But he was sitting tinkling like, like that ...

But then you should see another person.

A woman comes: wrham.

But that is – the critic – but that is educational science, ladies and gentlemen, isn’t it?

You can see, it all lives in the human being.

It is fatherhood and motherhood.

But when the mother removes herself as a real mother from the giving birth, there is not much left of that.

Even if they make you, as a mother, tomorrow, a rear admiral – or is it perhaps called something else because you are a mother? – but then you are still nothing for space.

And this is why I have no respect for those lives, I cannot help it.

To me they are utter maternal Santa Clauses.

Haha, I laughed, I beg your pardon.

I visit a couple, he was a major, and she was a lieutenant.

She was talking the whole evening about how a gun must be cleaned.

And she says: ‘Yes, I punished four of them, of course.’

They were not talking about art.

They were not talking about God and Christ.

They were talking about sten guns, how you clean those things.

And he was teaching her, and she did that in the morning again, of course.

Nice, isn’t it?

Nice marriage.

They only kiss by means of grenades.

Gosh, gosh, gosh, gosh.

Sir, do you feel anything for that, to have a captain like that next to you?

Yes, I am ridiculing it; sir, it is ridiculous, because the whole of society is ridiculous.

And they are much more crazy than Picasso.

You should have a good look at them.

Oh, oh, oh.

A human being, a man in this area, with a little bit of feeling for spiritual awakening, cordiality and love with regard to Jerusalem ...

There is nothing left of it, sir.

If you think that you have a heart, a warm beating heart in your hands, there is a tank in between, (laughter) there is a tank beating.

Or ...

She is suddenly dreaming, and then she mowed down four thousand Russians just like that.

Honest.

Give me a ...

Yes, I could go on all evening, but I will stop.

I have here: ‘‘A View into the Hereafter’, part II, page 106.

A mother descended from the spheres in order to visit her seriously ill child.’

That is nice, isn’t it?

‘She, the happy one, suffered, because her child had forgotten herself.’

Madam, some mothers see that.

‘As it happens, she saw that her child was going to die, and would go to the dark spheres, and so would be separated for a long time.’

That is the worst thing there is.

‘Question: Does a person as a happy spirit have as much suffering as the earthly being?’

Madam, you are spirit.

Your life of feeling is exactly the same behind the material.

You are a mother.

And now you come to the other side ...

I told you recently about a gentleman, a father and a mother, and that gentleman is sitting here, he can immediately agree with that, he said: ‘Yes, now sir is in prison.

Four months.’

And whatever way you talk, madam, it does not help you.

During the war, I knew those people, then the son who came home says: ‘And now you must say something else.

Now I am it.’

He was wearing such a nice garment.

Then that father says – I told you recently – he says: ‘Mate, come upstairs with me, I have something nice for you.’

He says: ‘It is exactly right.’

‘Oh yes, father, do you have something for me?’

He says: ‘Yes, I have something nice for you.’

But upstairs he shot him in the head like that.

He says: ‘Mother, I cannot help it, I will just go to the police now, but otherwise we would have perished anyway, because he is possessed.’

Yes, not everyone does that.

But now you must start to feel the sorrow of this spirit.

That man.

I had said here on earth ...

‘Yes’, another mother, ‘look, we brought you up, we did this.

But would we be able to experience one happiness?’

‘Yes, what do you want?’

‘Disappear from here, and leave us in peace.’

Then you must already be very strong.

There are so many, so many millions of dramas, with regard to parents and children, by means of which the parents are beaten.

So you do not need to search so far.

You already experience it here.

And when that captain can say: ‘Say, boy, I have something for you ...’

He must make amends for it, because that father must return for his child in order to give him new life again.

He must become a mother.

That man there, that captain, he lives, he must wait at least forty, fifty, sixty thousand years before he comes that far.

Because millions of states precede.

You are in a mess.

His development is at a standstill.

He lives the time, that forty thousand years, in the world for reincarnation.

You are therefore completely disengaged for life for forty thousand years.

You no longer have a life and a death.

You have nothing at all.

You live in a terrible empty atmosphere, because you have exceeded the laws of existence.

Isn’t it terrible?

Well, now a mother on the other side.

The mother, madam, now it will come, the mother ...

We wrote there about people who already live in the first sphere.

And now I can teach you something with the nice thing which you got.

But if it comes to me I will be extremely harsh.

And that is not being harsh.

They have now reproached me once more.

I say to someone: ‘Just be a bit gentle, sir.

Start to behave fatherly.’

‘Yes’, he says, ‘but you did not even give that Irma an hour.’

I say: ‘You must not hit me back, sir.

Because I am talking about you.’

Well, I will not say anything else to that man for the rest of my life.

Then they hit back.

There was someone, he has something and then starts to act the king.

How do you wish to start to act the king at the factory when those people must learn something from you?

I just wanted to tell him that.

‘Become a bit fatherly.

Take care of those people.’

They cannot do that, madam, they hit back.

I say: ‘Yes.’

But, this is it, madam.

If I say ‘yes’ it will never be ‘no’ again.

If it concerns divine matters, the word, the law ‘yes’, you will not get a ‘no’ from me.

Then you can shoot me and burn me alive, but you will not get a ‘no’ from me.

If you mess things up for me here, madam, sir, and I give you my friendship and you destroy that friendship, then you will never get me again.

I will be open, but you will not get me.

I am talking to you, sir, and you can get everything from me, and think: gosh, it has been forgotten after all.

Sir, I will not start on it again, because this still lies between us.

Because I know the laws: you must first solve that.

If you have done wrong ...

You have had a nice half an hour, and then I will also make you a bit afraid this evening, then those weighing scales will come together again.

I am not talking to you, madam, I am talking to the masses and the world.

But every wrong thought which is aimed at the personality of the human being, the life of feeling of God, and there is misery, you must soften that misery by means of your own life of feeling, and that is called: love.

I saw you looking this week, sir, upstairs.

Yes.

You see, but now the spirit.

And the human being who lives on earth, and who is not like that, madam – that is the life of feeling of this mother – and they suffer terribly.

A time ago ...

Sir writes a nice piece.

The doctor, the general practitioner says: ‘I visit a patient.’

And then she says: ‘Yes, yes, oh, my good, my good great boy.’

Oh, sir, then that mother was sitting there and was talking to the jacket of her son.

They had shot and killed him during the war.

And that woman was now child-like, child-like.

At the end of the chapter, that doctor says: ‘If you have time, sir and madam, talk for a quarter of an hour to that child.’

Her child ... gone ...

She had collapsed from sorrow.

Psychopathic.

‘Oh, that terrible world’, she says.

‘And why must my child do that?

And why?

My child did not want it.

And why did they shoot and kill my child, my good boy?

And he did not want to participate in that dirty carry-on anyway.

He did not want to shoot.

And why did they shoot and kill him now?’

And that just goes on.

That happened in 1943.

And now that mother is still like that, in 1952.

Madam, that mother is unconscious.

And if only you could reach that mother, if you could say: ‘That child of yours is alive, and lives there.’

But how did religious maniacs originate?

If only we had those boys of the church, those ministers and those children who are broken by a bit of love.

If the consciousness, the social feeling and thinking is not there for society, yourself, and love, marriage and everything, God, Christ, then you will feel, then the child is, the spirit is wrongly informed, and then you get bits and pieces.

And then we would have been able to take care of those people with these teachings, sir, then there would be no crazy people.

Because then they would have continued for that matter.

That minister who is still in Rosenberg now and has lost the ladder, he would have been behind the table long ago with Jehovah.

Because he knew him.

But you cannot solve this suffering and this sorrow, madam, because the life of feeling of the human being, that personality is unconscious.

And now the human being suffers because of his own life of feeling.

Master Alcar also says: ‘Later, for Cosmology, I must explain everything again and then you will know that too, André.

He says: ‘But these are pieces of proof, because those people live here.

And they are still not that far that they can say: yes, my child must decide for itself what it does.’

But now you get something nice again and that is higher.

A mother passes on and the child is lying there suffering, is lying there in the hospital, or at home, and the child has an enormous battle with the nervous system or an inner ulcer, the pains are very bad.

And the mother knows that, and the mother feels, and the father feels, and of course, that bond is there, that love is there.

And they come back in order to try to make those pains dissolve.

And then a mother suffers just as much as you have that here.

And then they even see through that, through that character – they didn’t used to – and now they grieve even more.

Why?

Because they see what will come after that.

Today the people are good, strong and happy again.

The doctor is finished with them.

And tomorrow the human being kicks himself again.

Because they think wrongly.

Yes indeed – that study will come now – the human being destroys himself because of his wrong thinking.

And now that mother grieves.

But now you reach spiritual truth, madam, then the grief dissolves, because we now know: you are an own personality, you must take those things to the awakening for yourself.

‘I cannot help you, child, it is horrid; you are my child, I gave birth to you, but I have here, where I now live, there are millions of children of mine.

I will come back to you with hundreds of mothers and fathers.

And we all love you.’

And now that little, little, meaningless earthly human love dissolves into universal love, madam, and there is no longer any question of groaning and carrying with regard to the earthly being.

And that is harsh then.

If we say: the spirit is not bothered about anything, because you are walking here groaning and trembling inside.

That is still all therefore seen humanly, physically.

But the spiritual personality becomes harsh.

No, madam, it becomes true.

Is that not worthwhile?

It knows that I cannot take that battle away from you, inwardly.

I could elevate the people, and that and that and that and that, and be able to give something wonderful in this way, if they begin with it themselves.

Yes.

And now just think.

Think, think, think.

Do you understand this, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Do you mean then that this mother was still not that far?’

No.

That mother is in the first sphere, has reached the light, but still has no cosmic feeling and thinking.

Because in the first sphere there are still a lot of people moaning, madam.

Did you not read then that I had to speak there, as André, I said: ‘I am from the earth.’

‘What do those people want?’ I asked.

Master Alcar said: ‘André, here you can see those clubs everywhere.

They still think in an earthly way, but have feeling, and life, and light.’

He says: ‘We will convince the people of that.’

And you all do that.

It is just like on earth, but then you are still earthly, materially thinking and feeling.

How simple it is.

But we read space, cosmology, yes, look here, then my word will be law.

If someone deceives me, and hits, and kicks, and so, and you have to do with things here, you finish him for God and Christ, but when someone breaks things, destroys things ...

There was someone else with me, and he said ...

Yes.

After five years that gentleman had got such blows, and then he wanted to go back to that good wife, didn’t he?

Then she said: ‘What will I do now, sir?

I have read your books.’

And then I may not say anything.

But I can answer her immediately.

But I may not say it, otherwise she will do it under my power.

Dangerous, don’t you think?

But then you should hear how those other cacklers and psychologists talk, and they just make a judgement immediately.

Here a human being must decide himself, otherwise she will do that under my authority, under my thinking and feeling.

And she does not have the laws.

She does not have the feeling.

She still has to master it.

For God, madam, the human being never talks.

If a judgement must be made, then the masters are silent.

Nice, sir, isn’t it?

It that not wonderfully, spiritually, spatially just?

I say: ‘Madam, I cannot help you.’

‘Well’, she says, then she began to weep, then she says: ‘that is awful.’

I say: ‘I am not allowed to help you.’

And then she was sly.

Then she started to tell a story.

I looked at her, I think: she is good.

And then she started to tell a story from someone else, and put her situation into it: ‘What would you do if you ...

I met that person and ...’

I say: ‘Look’, and then I absolutely gave her, I say, ‘you will get a ten in the first place.’

I say: ‘Madam ...’

Then she says: ‘Mr Rulof, thank you, I will buy two books.

But I know it right now.’

And then she brought it into the world in such a lovely way, then we were talking in general and then I did not give her an answer.

I say: ‘I may analyse that law.’

And then she knew it anyway.

But I was not allowed to give it to her.

But it was she.

And then she knew it.

Then she says: ‘He will never come into my house again.’

She says: ‘And now my word is no, and it will remain no.’

Then she says: ‘He can whine and shout and weep, but in two months’ time I will be ...

And even if he was to ...

Oh well’, she says, ‘I will help that man.’

Then she says: ‘Do you know what I get, sir?

And what kind of love he gives me?

He knows now how well off he was with me.’

Yes, madam, and all those chatterers, those gentlemen, come like that.

If you are like that then we will be lying at your feet tomorrow.

Won’t we, men?

Tomorrow we will bow our heads, madam, if you let it be known that personality is everything.

Because the personality, the word is law.

But the personality has the earth and mankind.

Isn’t that true, sir?

Mr Reitsma, isn’t that true?

You should read books sometime by the greatest writers, the greatest thinkers, the philosophers.

And then it is: a word is law.

And then you are so harsh, madam.

Because we have nothing to do with that misery there, that is over.

And then you should hear how fatal it becomes if the sympathy speaks.

How terribly those people are beaten again now.

Then they say: ‘Oh, oh, oh, if only I hadn’t started it, now that brute is beginning again.’

And now it is much and much and much worse.

And if only you had said now: ‘No, and my no is no.’

The human being can be bought for five cents, madam.

Not when sympathy is felt and is given, and the human being does something out of sympathy, because that goes towards love.

Can you feel it?

But sympathy, it says in our books, is a weakness of the personality.

And it plummets, and breaks everything, darkens everything.

This is why I was so harsh.

Because I had given my word to another person, and then another person no longer gets it.

My word is ‘yes’.

If you destroy it yourself, I can no longer stop it; then my word dies in you, but not in me.

How nice the marriage becomes, sir, don’t you think?

Hey, now we kiss differently, they said there in space, and then the human being went upwards, and he went to Golgotha.

Yes.

And then there was silence.

He went hand in hand, and she.

But there was once also a couple who came to visit me, madam, and then he came to ask me: ‘Say, Mr Rulof, put in a word for me with my wife; I will irrevocably do my best.’

I looked him in the eye like that.

I say: ‘That will cost you’, he has plenty of money, do you see?

I say: ‘That will cost you three thousand guilders, sir, what I am doing now.’

Then he says: ‘You will have it immediately.’

I say: ‘Great.’

I say: ‘Sir, we will agree on one thing: if you refuse again soon, I will shoot you in the head.

I am prepared to do that.

I know what to do with those laws.

But as far as I am concerned you will perish.’

And then I took those three thousand guilders, to be certain.

Because he got it back anyway.

I gave it to her, I say: ‘Put that away.’

Then she came to me two days later, I say: 'Child, try it.

Then she says: ‘Well, you are imposing a lot on me.

If you say it, or the masters ...’

No, the masters do not want that.

I say: ‘I already have three thousand guilders for you.’

I say: ‘If he begins again, chase him away, then at least you will still have this.’ (laughter)

Yes, I was not that crazy.

But that man is still alive, and she too; they also had two children, and live in the glory of Our Lord.

He never broke his word again.

He still gets my orchids from me every day.

I walk past them sometimes, I no longer even look at them.

I say: ‘Now just go ahead, you will not see any more of me.’

But I would like to have asked: ‘Do you still have those three thousand guilders?’

I put the people together like that.

I put them together, madam.

He: ‘Oh, she is so beautiful.’

And she: ‘Yes, he is great man, but, we argue every day.’

Madam, what kind of psychology is that?

Bright people, who have studied.

He also had a title, was even a doctor, but he did not know it.

And she was an artist, a good mother.

I say: ‘Madam, I will make you better within a week, and him too.’

‘What should I do?’

I say: ‘You will keep quiet.’

And then he came.

I say: ‘And you will keep quiet too.’

I said it to him.

Then they were quiet towards each other.

Within four days.

I say: ‘You will only bow.

You should see what kind of misery brings you amongst the perfectly ordinary human part on earth.

And you make a hell and a darkness out of a heaven.

What do you have to do with that nonsense, and with that irritation?

Be a companion for each other.

And be polite.’

Well.

After a week he says: ‘My God, my God, wife, how stupid we are, aren’t we?’

She says: ‘You realise it, husband.’

There was also a bottle of champagne, and a visit to the theatre.

And they also had a child.

They continue to live, madam, in happiness and peace.

You would probably like to know where they live, but I will not say that.

But in this way you can take care of the human being in a little thing, if only you know how, you can take care of the human being, and you can take them to the state of purity, you can take them to thinking, if the will and the feeling and the certainty is there, madam.

And that one person does not deform himself because of the other person.

Because the human being is destroyed because of sympathy, because of a weakness of the personality.

And that is also exactly like that on the other side, but we can learn it here.

Do you understand this?

I will just thread those things in, then you can see it, how those people, how that suffering is all taken care of; because there is a great deal of suffering in society.

And marriage especially is so tremendously beautiful.

But the human being does not understand it.

You must prepare the mother, for the husband, and the husband for the mother.

Yes.

And now just acting as if everything is bliss.

On Sunday morning having a lovely lie next to each other.

Yes, yes.

And letting the minister speak about damnation.

Then it is destroyed again.

Then there is nothing left of it again.

(Jozef continues.) ‘In the dark spheres, where André sees much endless suffering, he asks: ‘Will this ever come to an end?’

Master Alcar replies: ‘Saints will live here one day.’’

Yes, then the darkness will have dissolved.

‘Question: Apart from the fact that the human being will have changed completely, will there also be a solar system there?’

No, madam, now you are off the mark.

The hells will dissolve.

There will no longer be any psychopaths.

The world, this macrocosmos will one day experience that there will be people who will no longer think wrongly again, because they will know the laws.

In a hundred thousand years’ time people will no longer steal, because people will no longer have to steal, because the human being will have everything then.

Policemen will no longer be needed, because the human being will not do any harm.

And of course now the disharmony between the world of the unconscious and the earthly being will dissolve, and you will get to see light again in that darkness.

But they will not be solar systems, madam.

They will not be material suns.

But those spiritual suns, that spiritual sun in the human being now radiates his light, and there will no longer be any darkness.

Do you understand this?

Isn’t that nice, madam?

Nice, isn’t it?

Another orchid like that.

It costs you ten cents this evening, you know.

Oh no.

A few years ago I once asked how creation could infallibly produce people, animals, plants etcetera without any guidance.

Then I understood that this was possible because everything was Divine.

Is it also true that everything was present in the beginning?

After all, diversity came, and not one type, as for example, only a marigold comes from a marigold seed.’

Madam, did you experience the lectures in Diligentia last year about creation?

And now you start to analyse that humanly, of course, and then you come with these questions, and then you say: How did that Divine infallibility come?

Madam, the people who are sitting here, and in this way we have millions of people in Europe, are of one colour.

Can you feel it?

So millions of people represent the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org).

And if we now start to descend from that highest, that is the highest organism, with the coloured ...

The Negroes (when these contact evenings were held from 1949 to 1952, the word ‘Negro’ was a common name to refer to someone with a dark skin colour) who can sing so beautifully ...

A jungle inhabitant does not have the voice of a Robeson (Paul Robeson, American bass, 1898-1976).

There are timbres ...

In Amsterdam, a fortnight ago, master Zelanus gave a wonderful lecture about the timbre of the voice.

Didn’t he, sir?

The people said: ‘Oh, oh, oh, that has gone; if only we had recorded it.’

Now we are recording it again there.

Those Negroes already have the timbre of the human being, the Negro has received and experienced the adult stage, organism, of Mother Earth, just as pure and crystal clear as the white human being (see article ‘Against racism and discrimination’ on rulof.org).

And that is true, sir.

If you go back now for a moment to the jungle, they only have this, hehewuhubhuhuh.

But they do not ...

That sound has exactly the consciousness and the timbre of the life of feeling.

But it is in the organism.

But not a Negro.

You should hear.

You should hear Robeson, and all those different Negroes.

A timbre such as only nature can create, they say.

But they do not know the situation, the depth, why a Negro has a voice, and why we have a voice to beat stones.

That means that the human being descends from the highest, returns to the lower consciousness.

And the organism is like that.

So you get the division for nature: new grades originate from one grade; nature is a million-fold deep.

The animal world is much more difficult to analyse then the human being with his subconscious, life of feeling, fatherhood, motherhood, reincarnation.

The animal world is a hundred times deeper.

We do not have any post-creation.

But the animal world does, it is terrible.

The human being does not even have that.

Do we have post-creation, sir?

(It remains silent.)

We have post-creation; when the human being becomes filthy we get lice.

And that is post-creation.

I mean this: the animal world has condensed itself and grown a million-fold.

And the human being can only grow in one state.

Can you feel this?

The biologists must not, the geologists must not ... but the psychologists know nothing about all of this, nothing, nothing.

And that is theology.

So of course God divided himself as independent units.

Do you understand this now?

God divided himself ...

I also have a long letter here from Mr Berends, but I will not touch that, of course.

God divided himself because of circumstances, and that is a grade of organism, with a life feeling, and that grew again, for the own type, for the family, but that grew, and every independence can be seen and experienced in this way.

Clear?

Do you know it now?

Than I truly thank you.

I have here: ‘People must lose something of the personality in order to want to experience the divine laws.’

No, sir, you would like that.

What remains of that personality then, if you want to lose that?

You must say it differently.

You must say it like this ...

We must lose some of the personality in order to experience the Divine laws.

... by means of the personality, the divine law in us must be awakened.

And  if we now rise above human feeling, social being one ...

If you do your best for your boss and your task, sir, then you will not care about that divine soul as divine life in you.

Because we still just work for food and drink.

When do we now awaken something in us by means of which our divine feeling and thinking, no, animal-like thinking and feeling gets higher consciousness?

And that is only: by giving yourself in society in a harmonically loving way.

Which people pay you for.

Me too.

I am giving you beautiful things this evening.

I hope that you will take the plunge, you see.

Because a scrooge is actually someone who ...

But I am not that, madam.

That is that Jeus.

Jeus in me wants to go to the fairground.

I always argue with Jeus.

Jeus wants to go the fairground – and then he talks, he is polite – and then he is watching out for a few extra cents.

Didn’t he know it?

Mr Berends, do you understand ...

We must lose some of the personality.

No, people must give the personality inspiration, space, power, love, in order to want to experience the divine laws.

Clear?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Wonderful.

‘And the soul must be awakened by the masters.’

No, sir, by yourself.

‘ ... the soul must be awakened by the masters in order to experience the inner life.’

A master would have to come to me once in order to awaken me inside.

He cannot awaken me.

Who wants to awaken me?

Who?

I must do it myself.

I am that independence God.

You too.

Why do you take the masters to the soul of the human being, his divine spark?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Everyone is actually capable of making that of himself which you got from the masters.’

Sir, I had to earn it with blood.

We went through insanity, death and life, sir, we killed ourselves.

There, there, there, there.

I was pulled through temples, I went there, and I went there.

You went to the Catholic Church.

You were perhaps a pope once.

And now you are out of it.

Because if you have experienced the highest and you come ‘beyond the coffin’, sir, or you have been there and there, and you really start to feel divine love, and enter justice, sir, then you walk away from there, because you have to do with damnation.

And you cannot believe in that anyway, can you?

So all those priests are still unconscious beings.

But when consciousness comes, sir, you walk away.

Until you stand before a God who is just and no longer damns.

But masters cannot give me anything.

I am ahead of you with so many grams of feeling.

And I was already there.

This is why I have this fantastic consciousness, because I take care of that whole macrocosmos.

I challenge the whole psychological world, sir, every faculty, every university, theology and everything, I challenge them, and then they can get lectures here.

And I will prove that to you.

Have I proved that to you?

Yes.

And we had here, we have had bright, intelligent people here, I have had people here from the university, I have all types of people here.

But they must honestly say: ‘Yes, my professor does not do that.

And you are right.’

And if you begin with power of feeling, and laws of condensing, and whatever you begin with ...

I have proved it anyway.

We have now given almost eight hundred, eight hundred and seventy-five lectures, I have my twenty books, I still have hundreds of them in me, I have given you answers here to a few hundred thousand questions, and you have still not even been able to checkmate me.

And only I get that, sir ...

I already told you once, you can think properly, but you mess up your own thoughts.

You make nonsense out of a really beautiful picture.

Is that true?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘That is true.’

Thank you.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But on the other hand there is this: if I now know that, that that happens, or that I know that it does not happen, let me put it like this, which possibility is there locked in the human being to precisely not do that, and to elevate those laws or those harmonic sides there, for a hundred percent, into the life?’

You have still not started a fight with yourself, and they are all that, Mr Berends, they have still not truly begun a fight with themselves.

And I can explain that to you just like that.

If they are that, and they are already socially busy, social, and with ‘good day, madam’, ‘good day, sir’ ...

But you have still not begun any fight with yourself.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I believe that.’

I see that everywhere, sir.

I will not talk about it.

But really begin to fight with yourself.

Oh, you have still never just collapsed because the moon spoke to you.

I was really pleased when I collapsed in 1938, when my heart was broken.

I say: ‘Are you crazy?’

I must not hit now, because then it will start to beat, but then I got it under control again.

You had said: ‘Oh, doctor, doctor ...’

I said: ‘Go away with that doctor.’

What does that heart of mine want: destruction or life?

There is a gentleman sitting there, who was paralysed in the beginning as a child.

You should go and talk to him about healing, and about thinking and feeling.

And he said one day: ‘And now it is over, God damn it: destroyed or better!’

That boy prays day and night, the minister is in the house, praying, praying, praying.

Sir, it did not help a jot.

And when he let rip once, it was suddenly gone.

Strange?

Sir, that was a tale of woe.

And when I started to explain to him, then he says: ‘God, God, God, I should have known during those years.’

But that is the fight .

And if you still do not have that, sir, a fight with yourself ...

You still do not fight.

You are still so weak.

You come here: ‘nice evening ...’

I am now just lively, I am a sparkling personality, I have seen the seventh sphere.

And then one of those wonderful masters there said to me: ‘André, André, you can only keep going through Jeus, take that into account.

I am exactly the same as you.’

And then I heard my dialect in the seventh sphere.

And it was from doctor Franz, one of the highest masters, who dragged mankind through the war along with Cesarino.

And then you are faced with a personality of thirty years.

He had studied in Leuven.

But a great, great person; made light from darkness, and joy and happiness from destruction.

But through the fight.

You see, because of the fight.

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

Now we are just busy and now I probably just have a minute?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘That is a pity.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘That is a pity.’

No, sir, there are no pities.

Tell me another one.

I will stop, sir.

Sir, I will come back to this note next week.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Gladly.’

And then I will see whether you are really beginning to fight.

Ladies and gentlemen, this evening we have a full hall again.

The masters will speak on Sunday morning.

On Sunday morning we will continue in Diligentia with cosmology, ladies and gentlemen, you must hear and experience that, because Jozef Rulof is still just ...

Yes, indeed, you would like that.

Ladies and gentlemen, I thank you for your beautiful feelings.

See you on Sunday morning.

Goodbye, dear people.

(There is clapping).