Good evening, my sisters and brothers.

(Hall): Good evening, master Zelanus.

We will continue again.

Which one of you is ready – the voice is back again – to ask the first question?

Over there?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, the last time we heard the lecture about: God does not damn.

I have to tell you that I found it very impressive.’

Thank you.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But, you said there that in the spheres there are beings, or spirits, who are very sorry that they actually propounded wrong teaching on earth.

And that they said in that that God does damn and that that causes their sorrow in the spheres.

And then you also added that the first books of the ...’

‘A View into the Hereafter.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... ‘A View into the Hereafter’, yes, which was written for little children.

And I did not understand that expression.’

No.

But you are all little children, you are a little child in these laws.

Is it clear now?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Yes and no.

Thank you.

If you, you are a clergyman, for example, you become a minister, you are born, the feeling is in you that you want to study, you become a priest, you want to be a clergyman ....

But, you will feel, if you feel all those lectures which we set up in The Hague, if you feel that, then you will understand that – I explained that here in the evenings – then you will understand that your thinking and feeling becomes, is, dangerous for society.

Now of course it comes down to where you were born.

And the soul builds that up for itself by means of the lives which she has lived, the personality.

One person follows a material study, the other person has a feeling for sport, you come across that in society, another wants to experience a study, wants to be a clergyman, he wants to be a minister.

Where are you born?

You will feel, the parents who attract you play an enormous role at this moment, have a part of your development in their hands.

Later then you just say: I will do it, I will do that, I will not let myself be forced anymore.

But understand, I explained to you several times: everything which you possess on earth, you must put that aside.

You lose your name, you lose your personality.

You can study, you can master what you wish, nothing actually has meaning for your astral life; if that is not attuned to your soul and personality for Golgotha, Christ, God, it means nothing.

Every thought, every deed which you do for your soul, that remains, that is a foundation, that is a world, that is a space, that is an atmosphere, that is harmony, that is justice, that is love.

Everything takes you to love.

You must first make sure that you are in harmony with everything, and that becomes love afterwards.

But what the world possesses at the moment, was received by the philosophical systems, by the philosophers, you will feel, that has meaning if the human being gets the inner spiritual experiencing from that.

Clear?

Now you come on earth.

Where are you born?

Father and mother are Catholic, Protestant, Mohammedan attuned.

You will feel, you already no longer have that in your hands.

But gradually, by means of life, your inner life, your personality awakens.

You come into Turkey, you become a Mohammedan, you become a Buddhist, you already enter mysticism by means of Buddha.

If you enter the Catholic church directly, then you stand – by means of your parents and your own life of feeling, of course, later you must just prove what you want – you also stand up to your neck, your mouth in damnation.

And now you must just get to know your God of love, that God of love is there.

You will feel, when Moses was born the masters came together. You will read that in ‘The Peoples of the Earth’, I also ... there ... You hear those other lectures in Diligentia, for that damnation.

There were therefore people on earth, they died, and those people continued, they built on themselves.

They did not get anything for free.

They only had darkness.

Because in the prehistoric ages the human being went by means of his coffin.

You made a coffin of it, they remained lying there, or they went into the waters; they started to bury those people, only already because of the disintegration.

But those people have now reached the Divine All, and experience and populate, represent the All-Source, the God of all life.

They came there, without Christ, without God, without your spirituality, without your church, those people entered the Divine All without everything.

Can you accept that?

You are certainly not the only one who lives on earth, Mother Earth is already millions of years old.

And when did the human becoming a conscious being?

Millions of years before Moses came to earth.

Because Moses was a human being like you, me, thousands on earth.

He got the feeling: good heavens, I am alive.

He lives in the astral world, is in a twilight sphere, he is not conscious.

I explained to you: you cannot use a human being from the first sphere for that, because he no longer hits away from him from left and right, he goes through love, to the light.

Moses is walking in the first sphere, walking in that twilight, and sees that his parents are alive.

He goes back to the earth, he feels contact, he gets contact.

What do you do?

What do you do now?

We need that human being, those higher beings need him; he must go back, he can still hit, he will hit, because the human being, you will learn that, the human being was attached to damnation by the masters.

The masters discussed all of this with the Messiah, with the Christ: how do we make those people, those masses afraid?

And now the Lord came.

They were angels, they were masters, they were your forefathers.

They built up laws.

The Christ says: ‘How was I received there?

How did they receive Me on earth?’

Very simple, He knew that beforehand:

the unconscious masses would destroy Him.

If you were to – I already explained that too – tell this fifty years ago, you, and I, and everyone would be burnt at the stake.

Did you not know that?

We learned.

Society has evolved, society, this mankind got feeling, thinking, understanding, technical wonders.

It originated in this way.

Then ...

Moses comes.

The human being got faith, that faith continues.

The Old Testament, there are thousands of mantraps and traps in there, you will find lying and deception there.

A nice story.

Every human being has this experience.

But, do not forget, something originated, a law was built up, the house of Israel was born, the core for believing and accepting; it is no more than that.

Now you come through that history and we come to Christ.

Christ gave spatial inspiration, universal love, divine cordiality, benevolence, justice.

That is the task of Christ.

The Catholic Church begins, and now you come from the space, and now during these ages you are attracted to the Catholic Church, to your parents, and they believe, believe, believe, they take you along, you start to pray, you still cannot think, you still do not have the feeling, but finally you free yourself and you start to understand that there is no damnation.

Now your first question.

Your first thinking and feeling with regard to this is: a minister comes, he has completed his cycle of the earth and enters the astral world, enters a space, he is an astral spiritual personality, and must now accept that there is no damnation, because life continues.

People do not know reincarnation, people do not know rebirth.

Millions of laws explain to you that life evolves.

Now you come there, and now you must accept that you gave nothing else to the human being but nonsense, deception.

Is that not painful?

Can you feel the deep pains of a human being who must accept that, however nicely, however truly he spoke to the human being, that he told lies?

That life passed by for nothing.

Now do it over again.

He unconsciously deceived millions of people in this way, again and again.

That is now the danger.

The human being still does not know that.

Children in this world, millions of children, men and women, do not know that because of that church, by accepting a dogma, by being confirmed ... just become a protestant, just become a Catholic: you are walking in darkness.

Because everything – I told you – which the earth possesses, that is what society built up by means of the university, that means nothing, because it is still material wisdom.

That which lives in you, which is your soul, which is your spirit, which is the life, people do not know that, because people do not know what the life is, people do not know about either soul, or spirit.

That is now the danger, an awe-inspiring danger, to decide: I will become a Catholic, I will become a Protestant.

You must soon lose that again anyway, you will lose all of that.

And now we can begin, when that minister comes, when the priest comes, he still lives in a Land of Twilight, because if that clergyman had accepted a God of love ...

He accepts a God of love, but he puts next to that: if you are not careful then you will go to hell, you will burn eternally.

So he has consciousness; and there is his cross, he builds mantraps and traps for himself.

And now God must say to him: you must awaken, you will do this and you will do that.

Child, just work it out for yourself, because God manifested himself by means of nature, the spatial laws.

It is not any clearer.

And now you should try to take his God away from a clergyman, a minister, just try that; they will bite you in a way that a wild animal cannot and does not do, they will fly at you.

Just go to your cardinal, just go to a true priest and tell him that he is crazy, is talking nonsense.

He will bite you in your neck, he will suck your blood away when it comes down to it.

Because you become ... if he still possessed the power, friend, brother, then he would lock you up and you would be tortured, because you said that he is talking nonsense; because he knows it.

You must lose your Catholicism, your Protestantism and your Mohammedanism and your Buddhism, you will have to lose everything which does not possess spiritual reality, because you will get the metaphysical, divine reality in its place.

And that is: you are born again, you will be father, you will be mother.

There is reincarnation.

You go to all the peoples.

You have lived everywhere on earth, because you have to have millions of lives before you have reached the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) and before you have made amends for your mistakes.

And then you have made amends for the murders, then you have brought yourself back into the harness.

But the cause and effect – you deceived a human being, you took part in lust and violence, the murder, the destroying of a life – takes you back to the earth, and you have to experience that.

People tell you that.

And if you are the clergyman then, then we come to you: ‘Look, my child, are you ready?’

You have read this in the books, you got the examples there.

There are clergymen who say: ‘Is this really true?’

That is the child – you know nothing about these things, you are the child - that is a child, a little child of Our Lord.

And the more childlike you are, the more spacious you are.

And now we can knock that child away from the church.

Just begin.

‘You are dead.’

‘I am not dead, I am alive.’

‘You died there.’

‘That is not possible.

I feel fine.’

‘Yes, you look great.’

He feels good about himself.

The Catholic, the clergyman has his cross, he holds onto that anxiously.

I say: ‘Just put that away, because it no longer has any meaning.

You do not know this.

This is why I am taking you ...’

Come to The Hague the next time, or afterwards, then we will come to Golgotha and then you will get to know Christ.

That Catholic does not know Christ; he has that cross with the Messiah on it, the Messiah made amends for everything for him, as long as he bows his head it is done with.

Yes, indeed.

‘Child, put that cross away.

We will show you a different Christ.’

And then a universal cosmic, divine school will begin.

Law after law will be explained to you.

And then we must go through the bible, and then we go through the bible, that will take five minutes, but it can also take 5000 years.

If you have a lot of feeling, you absorb everything immediately, you get one vision – you see Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, especially Moses, we see a few prophets, we continue to Jerusalem, we go back to the Spheres of Light – you get a vision which connects you directly with the Divine All, you give me your hand, your feeling, your knowledge, your personality and you say: ‘Your word is law.’

‘Yes, because you are my child.

I am a child of God, and you too.

We are children.

I know a bit more, I see a bit more.’

And now you get my space, my sphere, my feeling, my life, my love, and now your black coat is taken away from you.

Your darkness is taken away from you.

We put you down on both feet so that you can go and walk.

We connect you with the animal world, we go back to the moon, to the origin of every cell life, and when you have seen and experienced that, then also go back into the book ‘The Peoples of the Earth’ and press it to your heart.

Experience and read ‘The Origin of the Universe’, take

‘The Cycle of the Soul’, take ‘A View into the Hereafter’, and you will be convinced that there is no fire burning in the hells.

Anything else?

Thank you.

Which one of you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I read that children who die young go to the Sphere of Children.

But if there are souls incarnated from a dark sphere and they die young, where do they go then?’

You mean, if a child, if a dark child, if a soul who experiences the darkness, passes over, you mean that.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

It cannot go back, it remains there.

(Lady in the hall): ‘It cannot be young?’

It cannot go back to the earth.

You have the world of the unconscious.

If you must go back soon, then you go, either consciously further to the astral world, then this life is over, then you are finished with the earth ...

And what you are like now ...

Those worlds exist ...

You have hatred, you have lies and deception in you, then you enter a world of lies and deception, that is your world.

If you now go back to the earth soon, when you leave here, then you already immediately dissolve for the world of that unconscious; that is called the world of the unconscious, the world for the birth, you become mother or you become father.

Instantly when you are released from the body you disappear and you become hazy.

Your mother and your father who have passed over, for example, who already possess a sphere of existence, they do not need to come and fetch you ...

Because they do that.

If I have contact with you, then I fetch you, of my own accord.

The most wonderful experiencing, if one of your own passes over before you, and he is there and he has possession, he has true light and he stands there like a radiating beauty, like a flower of the space, and he experiences with you there that you are gradually released from your body, that is the most awe-inspiring thing which you can experience, the most beautiful, the most wonderful.

And then that soul feels.

And then he takes you in his arms and carries you, that love, he carries you to the sphere as you feel inside.

Now you can speak to the people – I do everything, and more people do everything, in order to give you the truth – change, make yourself loving, make yourself loved, because it is your heaven, your light, your space, your love.

But the human being does not do that.

The human being says ‘yes’, but he does not begin.

You have all that in your hands.

But if you therefore go back to the earth, then your father does not need to, your love, your friends do not need to, your brothers and your sisters do not need to come, you dissolve immediately, because you are in the law for the birth.

Clear?

That all happens of its own accord, no one can change anything about it.

You still have to go back, you still have to do with people somewhere here in this world, but you are therefore still not ready, you still have something to make amends for, you must be mother or father.

Now I can connect you with thousands of laws.

For what do you go back?

For a murder, or for fatherhood, for motherhood, for evolution?

What do you still have to do here?

If you already have a conscious task on earth, and if you still want to finish that, then you go back immediately.

That is possible.

If you ... on the order, in the order, with the order ...

Because there is an order in the universe – can you feel that? – and that is the University of Christ, you are in that now.

We will show you it.

If you have understood this, then you will feel, now perhaps, probably centuries will pass, five centuries, ten centuries ... because millions of people go before you, they must also go back.

The human being murders, the human being commits arson; but murders, the human being goes to war, the human being gases himself, the suicide.

Millions of people were destroyed there, consciously ripped too soon from the life.

A chaos originated.

We people created a chaos for motherhood, fatherhood, awakening, for the evolution process, for soul, life, spirit and personality.

You go back to God, you must reach the All, and on that long path, that cosmic path, we committed mistake after mistake.

But they are not mistakes.

And we did not commit any sins either, because when we start to analyse and to see this cosmically, then there is no sin, then you can do what you like.

There is no sin and there are no mistakes, there is only unconsciousness.

Because you get the opportunity to make amends for it.

You are not forgiven for that, God has nothing to forgive, because God gave us everything.

You get a new body again, you can become a mother and you give a new body to that soul who took away the life from you.

Can you feel this?

You will get that harmony again in your hands.

You will go further again.

There is no damnation.

Can you feel this?

(Lady in the hall): ‘But if I understand that properly, so do you not go to the Sphere of Children if you die young?’

Then we will continue now.

You are now already a mother, you have grown up, you are a woman ...

If you now pass over as a child of three, four years and you have achieved all of that ...

For what does that child come back?

You have that in you, you come back for something, it does not matter, they are thousands more problems.

But you are ready, you are three years old and you pass over and you go back to the sphere, you have experienced, for example, the awakening in the mother, you have experienced that half-consciously, at fifty percent, you can experience that, then you feel, then you are actually lying on the threshold of the sleep in the mother and you feel that growing, that blood circulation, that awakening, this is material evolution, that the soul absorbs and by means of which it enriches itself.

If you go back to the first sphere, then you have attunement to that, you go to the fourth; then you come out of there, because you came from somewhere, then you go back there.

And then you can experience the adult stage again in seven hours.

Yes, you can continue like that from the coffin, from your body, and here you are already an adult again.

But you can only experience that according to the feeling and the consciousness you possess.

Because if you do not possess the consciousness, now learn, now think, if you do not possess the consciousness, then you also stand still.

The more you master, the more spacious your life of feeling becomes.

But, treat everything in love.

Every thought therefore becomes love, the smallest thing which you do on earth, becomes love.

And if it speaks to your soul, to your inner life ... now prove how you want to accept that, we experience with regard to: birth, being a father, being a mother, Christ, Golgotha, your Divine self in you.

Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I want to ask you something.

I would like to know something about that question from a moment ago.’

Go ahead.

(Lady in the hall): ‘It was said there, that masters were sorry about things which they had taught to the earth, to the people.’

Yes, indeed.

If you are not ...

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ... sorry ...’

Yes, not a master in the spirit.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, from the hereafter.’

Also.

What do you think.

You can call me master.

I want, I can prove it to you.

I have given for this space, you can read that, you must actually know that, I have given five hundred lectures, and not one the same.

I can speak to you for ten thousand centuries and a hundred thousand years.

And you can take all the academics of the earth ... I challenge you, the psychologists, to give you the proof, and then they can ask questions about the universe.

I will never stand here without the word.

That means, I have earned my omniscience for this space, I have become cosmically conscious.

Not André and not Jozef; we are that.

We made that journey, had those lives, we achieved that.

You will have perhaps noticed it.

And that is the next lecture if you want to accept that.

If you enter the first sphere, then the human being thinks: I will have a lovely seat here, I have made it, I have reached the first sphere, now I have peace, quiet and happiness.

Don’t I?

But that is the spiritual truth, the spiritual love, harmony and justice, isn’t it? You live there in the paradise.

And now the sorrow of Christ and the universal crawls as far as your lips.

I am dying from sorrow.

Yes, because I do not have you yet, because you are a part of my life, of God, of the universe; everyone will carry the life of the Messiah.

Is that possible then?

The Catholic Church says: Christ carries for you.

No.

What was the grief, the suffering of Christ?

The sorrow for Him was: the human being destroys himself, the human being creates disharmony, sorrow, misery.

You can change the world instantly if you, if the human being was easy to manage.

And when you go higher and higher ...

What is Golgotha?

A week, a fortnight on Sunday, in Diligentia, you will get the lecture ‘Golgotha, in you’, and then I will nail you to the cross.

Golgotha wants you to experience the sorrows, the life, the feeling and thinking of the Christ.

That is Golgotha.

That is giving yourself, completely, for the life of God.

Because you are, everything in the world ...

You are a deity.

Do you know that?

And all this life, everything here in your Amsterdam, in the world, that is yours, you created that, that is a part of you.

But you are also a part of that, you are one.

And you master that being one.

And then you enter the first sphere and then start to feel the life there, the carrying of the Messiah, because the deity in this life must awaken.

Then you go, then you want to understand the life of feeling of the Messiah, you absorb it, and now you get sorrow, you would like to hit yourself, be tortured, if you could just take all of this life back to the divine.

This is why people have ...

Those masters are happy, yes, indeed ... but we do not stop, we cannot stop until the earth lives in the paradise, until Mother Earth has reached that moment along with her children, the bliss, for which Christ was born and died, by means of which God created everything, that height, that space.

You will live for that, you will die for that.

(To the people in the hall) Do not talk there.

You are lying precisely in this line.

Then you go like the Messiah, like a master, like an angel, a human being ...

What is an angel?

What is consciousness?

Angels do not exist.

They are in the spheres, people call them angels, because that is also earthly; take that into account.

The Catholic Church invented that.

There are no angels in the heavens.

There are only conscious beings, and they are true masters.

Because ...

That mastership is not there either, there is only love.

But when we start to speak spiritually, then every word from your dictionary is put aside, goes away, because now you become only feeling, you become thinking, you become understanding.

Your actions are feeling, your speaking is feeling, gentleness, benevolence, harmony, then ... kiss, motherhood, fatherhood.

That is Christ.

And if you want to understand Him, then you also go to the cross, because every harsh word already hits you, is a dagger in your heart.

When you finally start to feel that, and you get the life of the universe, of Mother Nature in you, then you no longer say anything wrong about this child, about that child, then the life is, then the earth is too harsh, which your love walks on; but you must also feel that for that, for this and there and there.

Isn’t it true?

Anything else?

What is it?

(Lady in the hall): ‘You say: God does not damn.

But in your books it also says that there are demons, and that people, demons live in the hells who are not open to a good word and to a good thought.’

Of course not.

(Lady in the hall): ‘And they are dissolved.’

Precisely.

In other words, you want to know ...

I have someone here ...

How does André react to earth, how do we react, how do we stand with regard to the human being?

If someone comes and he looks at you ...

I walk past you, Christ also walks past you, because we know: you will only awaken in ten thousand years’ time, then you will only feel what I mean, you will not leave that anyway.

I have no sympathy with you, I am not weeping because you suffocate there in your own misery.

Is that harsh?

You are rotting bad, the human being is rotting bad in his own thoughts, when the human being destroys the other being.

When you think wrongly about one human being, you think wrongly about God, because then you are disharmony.

One wrong thought, thinking badly about the human being, places you in darkness.

Doesn’t it?

Now you come across a demon there ...

How do you wish to bring Adolf Hitler, Goebbels and all those demons whom the world has known, how do you wish to bring them to God and Christ and to love?

You are already attacked and devoured, spiritually and physically, if those people can reach you, if you possess that attunement.

If you hate, then the hatred will come to you.

How do you wish to reach the hatred, how do you wish to reach that ground, that unconscious being?

How do you wish to ...

Well, I go into the city here, I walk in your city this evening and I speak about ‘God is love’.

I go and stand at one of your squares and: ‘God is love’, like the Jehovah child.

In ten minutes I will be in prison.

The children did that and they went into the lion’s den, they were killed, were also burnt at the stake.

Now people only say: he is nuts.

A decent human being, a human being with feeling ...

A theosophist, for example, or someone comes, a priest.

Hey, I hear a spatial feeling there.

Don’t I?

Who is that?

That means something.

Give me a white sheet and I will show you it tomorrow; I will come back with André and we will walk in your city, and within half an hour we will be sitting in your Rosenburg (psychiatric institution in The Hague).

Then they say: he is crazy.

But the core, the feeling that understands: good heavens, he is talking there about the moon is mother and the son is father.

And if you achieve that, science, and understand and feel, then that means that the reincarnation lives for you.

Go and tell that to your society.

How do you wish to reach those people, those unconscious beings?

Catholics?

Then a priest walks past: get him, take him.

Can you feel this?

How do you wish to take those demons, worse, worse, worse, how do you wish to take that hatred to love?

We need twenty thousand years and ten thousand years and a hundred thousands years, so many ages.

We will not wait.

We will go precisely to that core which is ready to come out of that earth, in order to shine, to grow and to blossom.

Ten thousand people are no use to me on that morning, who do not understand me anyway, they are no use to us.

We only need one, and that one is space, is happiness, is accepting.

But if you enter the spheres, if you come before the real university of Christ ...

You do not understand this, you do not want this?

Pay attention to what the human being says, pay attention to each other.

Do you have love?

Man and woman have the space, if the man, the creating power, achieves that, and the mother can accept it, is open; man and woman, to be one here in these places, and those books, to love that wisdom, that is the paradise.

But now she says: ‘Oh, that nonsense is no use to me.’

‘But that then, do you believe that then?’

Then that is already disbelief.

Your kiss too, your cordiality too.

The human being cannot free himself from himself.

I told you recently, if you are a Catholic for a hundred percent, then your kiss is also damned, that does not taste spatial, that is small and trivial.

But now you get a cosmically conscious mother before you, look at her eyes, you do not need to say anything, she takes over your thoughts, she feels everything, she gives you the love, and there you go.

That is the meaning of God.

But now you stand here: ‘Oh no ...’

If you enter the spheres, ‘beyond the coffin’ soon, and you are lying there, where you are, and someone comes to you and he looks at you and says: ‘Do not worry, my child, I will bring you the light of your father, and my word is law’, then you just have to accept everything.

And one ‘oh no, oh no’, and again, ‘oh no, oh no’, and a while later again, and you will already lie alone for thousands of years.

You must just start to shout considerably, you must undergo that torture by means of which Christ and by means of which the masters experienced those sorrows, which they feel: I cannot reach that child.

What is the mother now for the child?

Because they are children.

And that child will awaken.

And if that child does not want, then we will wait and then God will wait for the awakening.

And that is: ‘Bring me to the light, I am sitting in the darkness, I am sitting alone.’

You are alone, you will be alone, until you start to ask for your sister, your brother, and mean it.

If you say: ‘Oh, I need you today’, and tomorrow, ‘Just go again’ ... That no longer happens.

We no longer let ourselves be kicked.

If you are in the spheres and you now say ‘yes’, and tomorrow it is ‘hubbeldehub’, then the happy, knowing, feeling being has already gone, away from you, you are alone.

We let you suffocate completely until you kindly come to accept the word, like that.

(Lady in the hall): ‘How must I learn that then?’

You learn that yourself.

If you live in the desert of your life ...

That is a desert, every wrong understanding, snapping, snarling, hating, destroying is a desert, poverty.

And you are alone in that desert.

And every word ...

Just read ‘Masks and Men’, through the desert, the trusting, the accepting ...

Oh, you will feel, when we come to give you a hand in order to take you away from that heat, those troubles, that misery.

You will see how tenderly you shake that hand.

Can you feel this?

And if I then ...

And when that human being, that master, that feeling comes to you with the true reality, the knowledge for the space in you, and can take you to the place where you see the bird and you see the green again and where you can rest, then you will believe that that rest is reality, because you see it.

We will show you it.

And if you cannot accept that ...

If you see the flowers and you were sitting there in the desert and there is darkness and here you have light, then there is no accepting, no, now it is you; and we continue in this way.

But the pure cosmic law, the metaphysical event, that is the spiritual truth, that does not beg.

Christ did not ask for alms.

A soul from the first sphere does not want alms; it wants truth, reality, for a hundred percent.

You will be love, you must accept one day, and if that accepting is still not there for fifty percent, under fifty percent, then that is not accepting, then it is disbelief, and you cannot do anything with disbelief.

We will not go into disbelief.

And then people also say in your society: ‘Just do not begin with that, because they are pearls before swine.’

That is the danger; the writing, the giving of art and lectures for nothing.

You flatly refuse it, the human being does not do it.

The human being cannot do it?

No, the human being does not want to do it.

The human being does not want to do it.

Everything is possible.

People say: ‘Yes, those people still cannot do it.’

Fine.

Why do you not bow your head then to the very smallest, the first things, and lay a foundation for yourself?

If she says: ‘Man, that is wrong, that is not like that.’

Why is that so harsh now, why can you not see that harshness of yourself?

But if you touch the personality, people say something, now ...

André spoke yesterday evening.

He allows a child of his to read something of – I am sitting there because we are writing, masters hear it, God heard it – he allows that child to read so many pages of the books ‘Jeus of mother Crisje’, which are still to be published.

He says: ‘Will you read that?’

‘Yes.’

‘A hundred sheets, two hundred and fifty pages.

He allows his brother, for example, that with his child.

‘Go, go’, he says, ‘read it quickly.’

Four, five, six weeks pass by, still not finished.

‘Have you finished it?’

‘No.’

‘You can do what you like, what you wish, you can make and break what you want’, André says, and that is the word, ‘but you will never get five words to read again from me in this world; I am no longer interested, you are not yearning.’

The yearning next to him, that is a hundred percent experiencing, that is going into a law, that does not sleep then.

You cannot avoid it.

There are people who go through life, go to church, but that is not looking for God.

No, the human being who flies through life like a crazy person: ‘How can God approve of that?’ he asks, who feels sorrows inside, in order to get to know God, that is a hundred percent.

Do you wish to tell me and do you all wish to deceive me that you have experienced those books?

I can ask you immediately.

If you have experienced them, you will know it: where is that and that?

Look, André had to experience every law until that law was part of his soul and then master Alcar could continue, that had to be a foundation.

He could not get away from it, that was enforced upon him, or we would have no consciousness, we would have no feeling, we would have no foundation.

What do you do?

What does the mother do?

What does the father do?

Why are you harsh?

Why do you do that wrong?

Why?

Do you not read then?

No.

Why are you snapping?

Why can you not understand the feeling of that world?

Why do you not descend into a deed of the human being?

A human being tells you something, and you say: ‘Oh, no, nonsense.’

Why?

Who gives you that certainty?

Why do you demolish that?

That no longer happens in the spheres of light.

You enter the spheres, for God, and wherever you live in the universe, on earth, everything afterwards, and you will absorb the core of that in you: love, happiness, justice, harmony.

Who began with it?

Why do you depend on each other?

Why do you hate?

Why do you get your girl, man? Why do you soon kick her away from you?

She is destroyed inside, she is broken.

Who began?

Where does it lie?

For God and the universe we analyze every problem for you; because the very first thought is the destruction.

They are the philosophical systems of Socrates, Schopenhauer, Adler, Plato, Aristotles.

But they have no spiritual grade for this analysis.

When are you true?

When are you loving?

When do you have a faith?

Not the faith of church, because that is another believing.

Your husband says to you: ‘Yes, I am late, but I just had to go there.’

Then another one says: ‘Yes, you can do that’, that is in ‘Jeus II’, ‘you can pull the other one.’

Look, the real believing ...

If you say that to me, then I will go away immediately and then you will see me again in a thousand years, because in the spheres we do not live in disbelief; you will miss me immediately.

Are you not going with me?

When he deceives, that will come soon; he is the destroyer.

But we will go immediately.

Christ gave everything, a master gives everything.

You do not get us half but whole, for a hundred percent, we devote our lives, we will die for you, you can get the blood, get the heart, get light, and everything; I lose nothing.

On the contrary, I get everything back.

Because, if I gave you something by means of which the loves manifests itself it is another foundation for me.

How do you live here?

Living in space becomes awe-inspiringly beautiful, but true, strong and harsh, because you will show your colours.

Clear?

Which one of you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, ... (inaudible) and you come into contact with different people, do those people belong on your path?’

Yes, indeed, you attract them yourself.

Do you want the proof?

A child, André told it, but you also see that in the spheres, a child longs for love.

A mother comes to André – it happened – : ‘Yes, what am I worth now, I have read your books, but I do not have any love.’

A mother.

André says: ‘Just go and sit in nature and feed the ducks.

You must take along a loaf of bread and then you just sit there.

In a fortnight he will come too and will also feed the animals, and then you will just coo, then you will get love.

Then he asks: “Do you like little birds so much?”

“Yes, sir.”

“Remarkable, we actually come from one sphere, from one attunement.”’

And now the love comes.

If you really love, you will receive the love.

If you, as a human being, if you really look, you had something for ... if you really look ...

A brother of André’s, tells him – but I was already sitting behind the wheel – tells that when he went out the door there was suddenly someone standing behind him and he said: ‘My God, are you also looking for God?

If only I could find God.’

That child says ...

He is also sitting here, isn’t he?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Is he here?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘There at the back.’

That child says: ‘Oh, I can tell you that.’

‘Yes, I am that far that I want to put an end to my life.’ An end to my life, do you feel, if you really want ... ‘I want to put an end to my life if it still takes a long time.’

He says, that child of mine says: ‘Then I have a book for you.

Before you do that, just read ‘The Cycle of the Soul’.

Is it not remarkable that that child with ‘The Cycle of the Soul’ is sent to the human being who wants to put an end to his life because he cannot find God?

And in this way for thousands of problems, even for the animal-like you will see your own sort.

Clear?

(To the hall): Just now.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, what are elements?’

What do you want to know?

(Lady in the hall): ‘What are elements?’

Elements?

The elemental laws: earth, water, gold, silver, just go on, what now lives in the earth.

But now we also get ...

Have you perhaps read ‘The Origin of the Universe’?

There you get the elemental laws, worlds.

That is the soul of the universe.

That is the material.

You have elemental laws, material laws; you also have them for soul and spirit.

You therefore have the elemental, the more rarefied worlds for the soul, that is the fourth cosmic grade.

That is the third sphere, that is the astral world.

Can you feel this?

Now you therefore go from the first sphere, the second, third, fourth, fifth, worlds, transitions.

The first, the second, the third still have contact with the earth.

You are still not free from your earthly feelings in the first sphere.

There are people lying there who are resting, for years on end.

But the second sphere, can you feel this, that is awake, that continues, that no longer sees you there, that continues through the universe.

Do you know how wonderful it is to be able to experience the earth invisibly amongst all the people?

You should look in your streets, as a clairvoyant, then you should see how many thousands and thousands of astral beings walk around you.

They stand next to you.

There is someone hanging on the human being, in the human being.

They are holding onto the mother there.

There is a mother busy, she goes on the wrong path, yes, there is someone who drives at her, he wants to experience something; and she is vulnerable, she gives herself, she searches, she asks.

That must stop.

That is the astral world.

Now you come higher and higher, and more and more rarefied, then we reach the spiritual sphere. That is still earthly actually, has contact with the material, with the soul. But we get the elemental space, that is seen and felt cosmically, the fourth cosmic grade.

Clear?

Who had anything else?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, here.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master, in ‘The Peoples of the Earth’ you write that the masters came to Noah, to Moses, to Abraham and that they proclaimed that they were God.’

Yes.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But, they were not God.’

Yes, indeed.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘They were the masters.’

No, they were gods.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

You are too.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Really?’

I just said: you are all gods.

Why do you want me to bring you to the non-pantheon?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.

It also says that: “If we had declared that we were astral beings, which we are”, it says, “then they would not have believed us.”

Would it not have been better to go on the level by saying: “We are that, astral beings”?

But now they said “God”, and this is why the people on earth are attached to that bible today.’

Of course.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Is it not better without living, without the bible ...’

Yes, yes.

Just worship a tree, just worship ...

Every faith goes away.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Is that true?’

Everything goes away from your earth, my friend, Catholicism, Protestantism, Buddhism and everything, I just said a moment ago: everything which possesses a core of nature, are soul, spirit and laws of nature ...

You are just a law.

You are not called a human being, you are living consciousness.

You are no longer called ‘human being’ in the spheres, you are not a human being there, but you are a grade of light for God.

Your pulpit, your church and everything disappears, it will also disappear in seventy-five years’ time, then you will get the direct voice instrument and then the masters will speak.

Just go and lie down there, read ‘The Peoples of the Earth.’

That happens.

And then the church is lying there.

We speak.

And then we begin to analyze the bible, that is the beginning.

But it is true.

Accept it, write it down.

Hundreds of writers.

Egypt comes.

How do I live?

What am I ‘behind the coffin’?

Is there a death?

No!

That is nothing.

You continue eternally.

You represent God, as a demon?

Fine, it doesn’t matter; you will soon reach understanding, feeling, love.

But you are a deity there.

Now just go back to your city and say: ‘Hey, my gods.’

Just go to a boxing match and ask: ‘Hey, my deity, give me a good punch.’

It is the truth, isn’t it?

Because I must analyze those things for you.

Not Rulof.

I analyze those things, I must connect myself with your material.

Just go to society, just go to that boxing evening: ‘Hey, deity, what a love you have to knock that child down there.’

But it is much worse.

Just put on your stars, isn’t it true, and just order your children: ‘Shoot, just shoot down, everything you see.’

Nice, that is a nice God.

Adolf Hitler was also one, it was Napoleon, but by means of this we got evolution (see articles ‘Hitler’ and ‘Evolution of mankind’ on rulof.org).

But anyone who violates that, will make amends.

Can you feel this?

But for God you could just have let Adolf go, I already told you; the white ants would have killed him on that long path, he would have fragmented himself.

André said during those years: do not worry, he is fragmenting himself.

And precisely because he gets so much – in 1940 already, proof, that is recorded – he will lose it, he is fragmenting his power.

And by means of this the soul awakens, and by means of this you get to see and to experience the core.

Do you understand Moses now?

Why do I explain to you that those boxers there ...?

During that time of Moses there were only boxers and wild people on earth.

And then Moses came and said: ‘Hey, deity, how I love you.’

Then you already had an arrow through your back.

Now?

And then we came.

But then I will make you afraid, anxious:

‘You will enter into flames, friend, if you do something to my child.’

And the Lord spoke like that.

God spoke, yes, indeed, there were masters, they represented God.

You too.

Is there a difference?

You only just have to say: from here or from there.

In which grade of consciousness.

How do you live, how do you think, how do you feel, what do you want, what do you want?

What do you want?

There.

Who?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master, does someone who has had many experiences in his life and they have made impressions on the soul, does he remain in the world of the unconscious longer than someone who has few experiences and few impressions on his soul?’

Did you all hear that?

You experience too much, you gain, you yearn, you take those books, you want to get to know those laws ...

Look, this is new.

If you have to go back to the earth, to the world of the unconscious, the past calls you back.

And that can take centuries.

But the new one, that is a life staircase, when you are soon free from your karma, you can awaken in seven minutes.

But the old one?

What do you still have?

What are we still dragging along?

What?

Who calls you back to the earth?

And the old times, the length, the time, the conscious and the unconscious lie there.

Unconsciousness takes time, unconsciousness is time.

Consciousness is awakening, evolution, birth, light, life, love.

Clear?

Where else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, is Christ the same as God?’

Yes, you too.

(Lady in the hall): ‘But He always speaks about His father, then there is still a father now, isn’t there?’

You are Christ, you are father and you are mother.

God as father, God as spirit, God as son.

You are mother, but you are God’s son if you represent the creating power.

You are God’s child, God’s son.

That means: My child.

That is not only for Christ.

You are also Christ.

We all pass over to Golgotha, we experience Golgotha, we get Golgotha in us.

You are the Messiah, you are God yourselves, you represent God.

No, you are God, you are it.

Soon you will have created all of that.

If you can give birth to your child ...

God gave birth, didn’t he, God created.

And you can already give birth to a child, you are a mother, that is the same thing which God did in the infinity.

But the human being is an infinity, is a world, is a space; is soul, life, spirit, light, love.

Yes?

What can you do?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Christ gave nothing else but love, didn’t he, and we do evil things, because, I mean ...’

You are already busy following Christ, aren’t you?

You are sitting there, aren’t you?

You are yearning, after all, aren’t you?

What Christ gave was nothing.

He could have spoken for hundreds of thousands of years.

He only lived for three years, in three, four years He could have said something now and again, because the apostles were not ready for Him.

Could Christ speak as we do that now?

He said: ‘Others will come.’

We are that, you are that.

You come to the space and then you say: ‘Away with that damnation.’

(Lady in the hall): ‘I already say that now.’

You say that now.

But how many millions are there still who say:

‘Hey, soon you will just go into it’?

That door opens for eternity, then an iron pot comes and they put you in there and you burn, you enter the hell.

You must experience that nonsense properly.

But the Catholic Church does not think, but the Catholic Church knows.

Protestantism.

You enter the fire eternally, but you never burn.

Because you must always be in that fire.

Put your hand into the material fire of yours, you will lose your hand.

But that human being never burns and yet he is sitting in the fire, and he must remain there eternally.

And that fire is not so strong to completely destroy you, but your Catholic does not understand that.

You are on fire, you burn and you do not actually burn.

You must only be tortured a bit, you see, a closed book.

You must only be tortured a bit.

It must take a long time.

Just curse, and you will already be gone; we dare to do that.

Do you know that cursing does not exist?

There are no sins.

Because if you do something, if you do something wrong ...

Are you capable then of strangling your child if the child has done wrong?

God can.

Do you just continue to look at that mistake of your child, of your own child, always?

You always forgive that child.

You absorb it: ‘That is a child.

That is a child.’

‘But that is a child’, society says.

But the adult life is also a child.

That child which shoots now, that has sorrow and pain later because it shot you down.

But the Catholic Church says: ‘Then you die.’

For the Catholic Church you may ...

Not for here.

As a child of the church you will not kill, but you can go to Germany and to France, and you can shoot down as many as you like, for the church; and then you are also blessed.

But the child of the church does not understand that.

You can destroy and murder as much as you like, you get the sacred assurance from the priest; but stay away from the child of the church, because that child is blessed.

Fine.

That child is a fairground attraction.

A God of love who blesses one child and the other one is deformed.

André was brought up Catholic, he was eight years old, then he already had an argument with the priest.

‘That is not possible!’ he said, because he saw it.

He was playing with me, with José.

‘Can Our Lord kill people then, by burning?’ Jeus said.

‘Do you believe that then?’ José said.

That child ...

‘Gosh, you should not believe that, Jeus, they are all stories.’

That is in ‘Jeus’.

And that is true.

That child was educated.

That does not exist.

But the Catholic Church says: ‘Just do something.’

Yes, you can make amends with two thousand guilders.

Then we will also burn candles for you, then you will make it completely.

A mother comes to André, she says: ‘My husband has died. I am a Catholic, my husband is a Catholic, and I have now read your books, from the first sphere, ‘A View into the Hereafter’.

But’, she says, perhaps you will be interested, I will also record it in the books, ‘the priest came and he wanted ten thousand guilders’, she says, ‘because “he still has one leg outside of heaven”.’

Then she says: ‘Well, just let him dangle there.’ (There is laughter in the hall.) ‘Because not another cent from me, sir, because there is no damnation.

Here, just look.’

And then she says: ‘Do you also read the books by that brute?’

Yes, we are brutes.

And the Catholic Church always comes to stand before the books of the masters.

There is no damnation, that is human talk, I am telling you the story.

Cursing, how can you curse your own deity?

You do not need to use those harsh words.

‘Do not curse’, the Catholic Church says.

You do not need to do that either.

You say: ‘God damns me.’

And if you say that quickly, it is a curse.

But you cannot damn yourself.

But you must not do it.

Why would you walk around with all those words inside?

Search for nature, the universe, harmony, the passing over in the human being.

You will feel, life become much simpler.

You do not need to go down on your knees and pray day and night.

Just read ‘Masks and Men’.

A mother prays for her child.

Why?

They do not want those books yet.

Yes, I know it.

The Catholic Church.

But it happened, they are pieces of proof.

The mother is so pleased and happy.

Damnation, for example.

She puts down flowers there for Mary every week and prays, and kneels there with ...

The priest says:

‘That is a sacred child.’

See, that mother kneels there, in front of Mary ...

And it is Mary.

That humility, that simplicity, that sacredness, beautiful, for that child, for that soul, for that mother, beautiful, wonderful.

Do not disturb her.

Do not go near her.

That went on for nine months.

But that child was pulled from her body in bits and pieces.

But – I will now tell you clearly – that whore there had beautiful triplets.

That was a woman of the streets?

No, that was a whore.

But whores do not exist, did you know that too?

That one there, that bad woman, who did not like the church, had two healthy boys and a girl.

And that one who prayed day and night, and gave flowers to Mary.

But Mary says: ‘Go away with your flowers, do not wear me out.’

Yes, the law says that.

‘Space’, Frederik says.

Mary says: ‘What do you want?

Why do you want to give me that happiness, child?

You are walking, yes, in darkness.

Those flowers have no meaning.

You would like that.’

Just send me to Our Lord with a few flowers of yours costing fifty cents.

He will see whether they are from your ...

No, Christ wants them from your heart. If you are good for your child and you take care of the life, your friend, your father, your mother.

If a mother is hateful, and that mother and that father, just let them go, just close yourself off, just armour yourself, do not let yourself be sullied, do not let yourself be influenced.

But remain love, stand on top of it, they cannot reach you.

But do not murder your child.

If that cordiality comes from you, that is an orchid for Christ.

But Holy Mary, the mother of Christ does not let herself be taken in, Jeus said.

We always have that word in the universe.

Why will you let yourself be taken in?

A harsh word?

Should I say: why do you let yourself be deceived? (There is laughter.)

Is life comical?

Do you want me to play for you?

Why not?

Close to you?

I will be gone soon, anyway.

Great, great to be one amongst the people.

‘In order to give something nice’, Frederik says.

So.

Tippy, did you meet Tippy in that book?

Just do not become a Tippy.

Then you will get a court of deception.

So.

But the real human being awakens, stands before you, and is nothing, very simple, is a man, is a creating power, is a delight, stands before you, perfectly simple; you are nothing for this world ...

Popes and the kings and the emperors live in the darkness, you can find the whole of Rome in the darkness.

Just take a scarlet garment like that, just hang crosses on your chest, just put some of those stars here.

For what do you get a star in this world, just here under your heart?

Only for lies and deception.

If you have too many of those ribbons, you have only just earned them by lies and deception, by destruction.

Something for art, but that is not spiritual art; you do not see Christ.

Hahaha, don’t make me laugh.

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

What do you think?

Which one of you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, I would like to ask ...’

Could you talk loud enough so ... that thing must hear you.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

(Lady in the hall): ‘But those loved one who just stand here every week with the people, and all those astral beings who also learn your teachings, don’t they?’

No, they are here.

(Lady in the hall): ‘So then those people who pass over, their parents or their children who pass over later, they are now with them?’

Yes.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Oh.’

There is a child sitting next to you.

Do you know that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, but ...’

Can you feel that, a little girl.

Which one of you?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Say it again.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master, were the masters in the old times, a thousand years ago, just as far in science as the people are now at present?’

(There is laughter.)

Should I say anything else?

When the human being lived in the jungle, were there doctors then? (laugher)

Thank you.

Which one of you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘May I ask you something?

I am having singing lessons at the moment and you have to learn a great deal for that, naturally, also ... but is it any good to you when you have entered the spheres, naturally, I mean that same study?

Or do you have to start again completely?

Or is it no use to you?’

Everyone in the first sphere has the voice.

(Someone in the hall says something.) (Master Zelanus reacts): Naturally, what naturally?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I thought that that was natural.’

How do you know that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Well, I thought that again you ...’

Yes, I explained that to you, naturally.

Every human being has a timbre.

The mother, you have ...

When you are a mother ...

What is the alto?

I will tell you something nice?

What is an alto?

Why does the alto sound like the alto?

What is an alto?

(Lady in the hall says something inaudible.)

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Mary Magdalene.’

Mary Magdalene?

She was a bad woman.

Christ associated with bad people during His life, did you know that?

He attracted, what I said a moment ago, that ‘w’ ‘h’ and ‘o’ and ‘r’ and ‘e’.

Mary Magdalene fried it golden brown. (laughter)

When Mary, when Christ with ...

Do not be ashamed for society, because the rich will be the little ones, the poor ones, and the rich in spirit.

Christ associated with the underworld.

This is why people did not believe Him.

The apostles said:

‘How can You tolerate that life next to You?

How can You approve, Master, that that being ...’

Peter came like that.

John stayed out of the way.

Because a bad woman was washing the Christ’s feet, put ointment on Him.

He did not go to the highest consciousness in this world, that was no use to Him.

That meant nothing to Him.

That child takes care of itself, knew how to take care of itself.

But the human being who has still not awakened, the very deepest worst, that gives you the highest feeling of love.

Did you know that?

Did you know that?

You still have to learn.

Because that life, however deep it had sunk, precisely because of that deep sinking, feels: this is it.

But if you live between half-waking and half-consciousness, then you still do not know this.

You can immediately see the darkness and the light.

Mary Magdalene saw the light, Christ saw the darkness, and when that comes together, that awakens, that relaxes, that inspires.

Clear?

But ...

Who was I busy with?

With you.

Now I was so far away, I was walking there with Christ and now I must come back again, otherwise you will say: ‘You are forgetting half of it.’

But I saw Christ, I saw Mary Magdalene sitting there, so, if I tune into something, it happens immediately and it comes.

But what is now, I asked you, the alto?

Why?

When is the alto for the mother – and the soprano is something else again, it concerns the alto, because that is the foundation – when is the alto the alto?

What is that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Feeling.’

Feeling, yes, indeed.

Then you received the voice as timbre purely for motherhood.

Because the alto is birth.

Do you feel?

The baritone, the bass, is the creating foundation.

If you come any higher, then you are busy again, then you come – now I will tell you something crazy, and you can see where that is all going – then you reach the homosexuality for the sound, the conscious and the unconscious.

But when you get a human being with a tenor, you will feel, already light voices, fine very small noise, then the human being is already busy going from the male to the maternal, and then you can be assured that you will soon come to earth and then you already get a maternal noise.

Because the mother, womb, motherhood, manifests itself in your throat, they are the maternal cords.

And if you give yourself for that ...

And then I will give you the proof, then I will tell you something good: you can analyze every artist, I could analyze every female and male singer in the world and could give them his art.

When you love, when you have done something nice today, you have experienced a shock, a female singer sometimes experienced that, and a male singer, he had experienced a shock ...

I will tell you something from the time of the Romans.

It was in – I will attune myself purely to the time – one hundred and forty-five, six hours and seven days after Christ, then we were in Rome and then we acted as emperors, for the Roman people.

There is one, the star will just say, who interprets the first role, it was a drama about the human being, and that child just could not give himself.

That boy did not want, he could not give himself, he was in love, he saw his love there, and then I went to him, I was the director, and said: ‘I must tell you something terrible, but you are being deceived.’

And he was immediately sent up to his place and then the master is sitting ... he must begin: the sorrow on his face, in his heart, he acts as a crazy person.

After the play he is carried through Rome, he gets everything; now he has shown his sorrow.

A female singer is there, she has to sing, sings an opera – that also happened a while ago – and that director, that composer, her inspirer, he knows: it is in there, it must come out, and he does not get the deep maternal sound of this timbre.

She does not have enough sorrow, any feeling.

He says: ‘Your child is dead.’

But at the same time she is standing there, she must go on stage, she must begin, and it happened that evening.

Success, done.

He says ...

And she comes weeping from the stage and says:

‘My God, I will never sing again, my child is dead.’

The child had to go to hospital, the child had died.

He says: ‘That child, your child is alive, the child is healthy.’

Immediately to the child.

Instantly – ‘my child’ ... - her spatial motherhood for the voice has awakened, because of that shock.

So if you feel love, get sorrow in the good ...

If you become like satans, that mother had become satanic, wild, broken from sorrow, then it does not help.

But because she got sorrow, ‘my child’ ...

She had to play and sing with that knowledge.

The clown for mankind with deep seriousness and the sorrow, because he is tortured, a clown ... Take one of your greatest clowns, if this child has to act, and he wants to interpret himself, and he wants to show sadness and he is not sad, then you will not feel his sadness either.

Then there is no inspiration, no animation.

But when you do the right thing, want to experience the right thing, then your voice can – you will feel, the more conscious your timbre is, in that grade – in the soprano or the mezzo, go higher and higher.

You have experienced a happiness yesterday evening and tomorrow you come there:

‘My God, how I sung today.’

That happiness gives sound to your timbre.

In this way we can analyze everything, if you have feeling.

Just believe that I can be a director.

I will let you act until you lose the light from your eyes and your blood runs away, then you will play.

Because then you are no longer yourself, then you are ...

What must you interpret?

Motherhood?

A mother?

Love?

Then you will be love, then you will represent craziness by means of the love, then you will dissolve into that love.

What are your greatest actors?

They become hatred, deception, lies, violence or love.

And you will read that again in ‘Spiritual Gifts.’

Now just read ‘Spiritual Gifts’ but, you can find your own voice again.

In which grade of development, material development are you?

How was the voice born?

Why do you have a voice and another person doesn’t?

It can all be analyzed.

Which one of you?

Over there.

There was waving there.

Yes?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, a few weeks ago there was an article in the newspaper.

There were four children, they had lifted up their youngest sister and put it in a bath of boiling water.

What are the consequences of that for those four children?

The child died.’

Yes, those murders happen more often.

Now I will tell you, these children are not conscious murderers.

You can accept that.

Because they do not know that it is conscious murdering.

There are children ...

If a child says: ‘I want to murder, kill my little brother, or I would like to murder, kill that boy’, then that does not mean that this child consciously ...

You cannot say that.

This is a child, that consciousness is still not adult.

And it is only when you have reached the adult age, that the murder is conscious, also adult.

But it is very likely, it could be – I do not know that child, I must see that grade of that child, I must see for what purpose; I can give you an idea, there are more – but it could be that those children quite simply sent this child to the other side.

Then the boiling water was needed for that.

Another person is run down by a tram, by a bicycle, by a fall.

Because God, nature, your transition, your evolution does not know a death bed.

Can you feel this?

Now you get spiritual karma.

Are they murderers?

No.

Why not?

You read in ‘The Cycle of the Soul’ that Roni, I took Roni, but he would pass over because of me, because we touched each other at this second, and now we would continue in this evolution, in this life, but by means of a slap.

Otherwise I would have had to come back in order to give him a new life, wouldn’t I, but I continued.

People sometimes ask that.

If you commit a murder, you come back, I said, and that is true.

When you ...

Look, it is about this, we hammer continually – I do that, another does that – we hammer on the soul, the personality: give love, awaken.

But did you know, you can actually do what you want, but if you want to live in the light, you want to walk this path which takes you upwards, then we tell you: stop.

But even if you have lived wildly, we all lived demonically like that ... but you cannot even do that, because there are no devils, they do not exist.

There are demons, yes, indeed, but there are no demons, they are people.

The human being just says: ‘They are demons, they are devils.’

Yes, when a general there in society has a hundred or two hundred thousand people destroyed, it is also demonic.

And if you sit at the table with him, you come to visit him, then he talks like a normal human being, but is demonic.

That man is wrong, does wrong.

Because everything dissolves.

Life becomes so simple, if you understand it.

Then you can murder and commit arson as much as you like, but a time will come when you must make amends for it anyway.

God always gets the profit, you make amends for that again.

You will return, you give those lives new life, in five thousand years’ time and perhaps a million years, then those people will also be ready and then they will continue.

The astral world is ready, yes, indeed, the spiritual spheres are ready, also for you, if you work on it by means of every deed and every thought.

You will soon come, look, it is that, it is very simple, you enter the spheres or you do not come there, you have light or you have darkness.

If you hate your people here in society, you live by means of lies and deception, then you enter darkness, then you have no light.

But if you begin here to work and to serve, for what we live, Golgotha will follow, then you will build light for yourself in that space.

Clear?

You therefore have everything in your hands, everything.

(Lady in the hall): ‘But what was there before ...’

What was there before?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Before the light came.’

My dear child, let’s just have a good thieve this evening, let’s just go out, and we will go there, and here and we will play, kick and hit, then we will not have any light.

Look, what was there before, that lives here.

You live here in day consciousness.

But who are you?

You can say, today the human being says: ‘I love you.’

Now we come back to that word.

‘Oh, I cannot do without you.’

But in a fortnight?

‘I do not want to lose you, I love you!’

Tomorrow they chase you out the door.

Can you feel this?

There ...

Isn’t it terrible that the human being comes to the human being, girl, boy, the young person, the nature, the spring meet each other, two flowers of one colour, now you will feel, now we must be honest, it is only when you are forty, as man and woman, that you will appreciate and understand each other.

When you got the first kiss and started to feel that there was more living, that was created by God, that all said a lot to you, but nothing to the universe, because you had nothing.

The human being starts to, they start to know each other, that is the greatest and most wonderful problem, marriage, the nicest too, but the most awe-inspiring for the universe, for God, for Christ and yourself.

It is only then that the human being gets meaning, as the mother, when she is mother, understands her task.

A mother who must take care of her household and whom you can always find on the street, is not a mother.

A mother who lets her child become dirty ...

(To the sound technician): I have seen you.

... is not a mother.

But that previous one ...

Now you are a mother, you are a wife, you are a friend, you are a girlfriend; yes, indeed, prove it.

If you now want to interpret and to experience that truth, then the human being whom you meet says: ‘That is a true human being.’

You are already loved without being aware of it.

True or not?

The human being sees immediately: hey, you can just go with that human being, because you will not be deceived.

People do not take you under the arm and then people say here: ‘Where is your purse?’

People say : ‘I love you.

I really love you.’

But tomorrow you are deceived, then they go to another.

And they are deceived.

What is the human being searching for, what does the human being want?

The mother deceives the father, the father the mother.

One little lie with regard to her, and him, polite, because you deceive ...

If you love, really love ...

Because I said, after all: ‘Just snarl at me, you should just try not accepting me, not understanding me.’

You are my mother, you are my wife, aren’t you, and you give me a bite, a snarl, a snap, I am married to you, if you get me now, then perhaps you will be alone again in five minutes.

If we marry today and I get a slap here in four hours, I will already be gone, then I will separate myself from you, I can do that for God.

Because if you do not accept me in love, because you lie, you say to ... if you go to the church, then you say: ‘I will love you.’

Justice asks me: ‘Why will I love her?’

Why do you not do it?

If I do not do it, you have the right, just go.

But if we separate now ...

Because now you say: ‘Oh, then I will just go tomorrow.

You say it, after all, don’t you?’

But then we just crawl to that past of yours, that past which is here, because we have experienced several lives.

We were in France, Italy.

We have to make amends for hundreds of people.

My child, why are you beaten?

Why are you kicked?

Why are you deceived?

Because we have to make good?

No, you are still not true.

Because when you are true, that making amends comes of its own accord, but when we are true ...

Yes, that making amends is also there, karma.

You meet someone whom in your previous life ... you do not know these people, after all.

You meet someone there: ‘Oh, wonderful, wonderful.’

You trust that human being with everything, but tomorrow you go out the door.

No, you are deceived, people give you a shaking.

Then you stand before your past, your karma, you get that slap back.

Because inside you, you are still not free from that deception.

So you still attract deception, deception also goes from your aura, even if you already have a hold of yourself, even if you look like that, my personality no longer wants that, inside you, you still have to make good, after all, that lives in you now, that is your subconscious.

Do you accept that?

Thank you.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘And the one who deceives, master Zelanus, what is the situation with that?’

That creates karma.

Look, André ...

Did you experience the battle by André during these years?

We are fighting for the good.

You can call me and André anything you like.

You have a battle, he experienced an enormous battle, but he loves all those people, he still loves them for a thousand percent, or we would not be suitable for our work.

But we are not the guilty ones.

Or you would have experienced nothing but destruction here.

We continue, we serve, we write, we disembody, we fight for Christ.

And you will kill me?

I am no good?

Jozef Rulof is no good, he is crazy?

Why am I here then?

Why do you always hear about love, love, love?

Do you have something from me?

Just come and just follow us.

The people who had to determine those pieces of proof, those laws, that destruction, they are now weeping until their tears run dry.

I want to earn you.

If you do not believe me, fine, we will wait five years, you are here today and tomorrow you are not, do you still hear now that we are the same?

Isn’t it true?

I missed you.

Why did you leave me alone?

Why did you let me fight alone for God?

Why did you let me work myself to death alone for God?

What do you do?

I have plenty, I have enough for today.

Christ lives every moment.

Do you want to earn the spheres, do you want to earn the heavens by means of killing and raping the word of God, of the universe?

Do you wish to deceive me, and the angels, and the heavens, and God, Christ and Golgotha, that by destroying you serve yourself and Christ and your Divine personality?

When do you have truth?

Can you analyze the truth of the wrong here?

Where are the people, the children of Christ, who loved me and the masters so much?

‘I no longer need you.’

You say: ‘I love you, I am yearning.’

If you wish to assure me and if you wish to assure the angels that you are yearning, then we would already have fifty thousand people here.

But I did not go into you, God didn’t either, Christ didn’t either.

The fourteen, the fifteen who followed those lectures all those years, not for me, not for Christ, I bow, the heavens, millions of people bow, Christ bows to those people, because they are the ones who carry them, even if they still do wrong.

I hear you speaking, I hear you thinking about each other.

Why do you think wrongly of each other?

I could analyze you one by one here.

Precisely the children who are with me.

Then I ask: why are you doing that?

Why are you thinking wrongly?

Why do you destroy?

Why do you not earn your path yourself?

Why do you want to support, to build op the life of another?

Money?

We do not need any money, we do not want any money, we want to see your soul, your blood, your personality, it is only then that is the orchid for Christ.

Why are you not talking here?

You must master that.

You come that far.

Be true, from now on, be true, love.

Speak to your mother, have a lovely seat with your cup of tea, your cigarettes.

We no longer do that in the spheres. But we sit down, we go through the universe, explain to each other – not those who know it – the universe, the stars, the planets, the moon, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn.

But every word is Saturn.

You do not love.

You say that you love your wife, your child, you do not have any love, I will prove it to you, because then you will be a radiating light.

Your eye is unconscious.

There are no ‘buts’ here and no ‘nos’ anymore, here there is only: yes, I will accept everything, even if I am told the deepest nonsense, I will listen.

And the God of all life will explain, give, bring me the truth by means of a dream, by means of someone else.

Is that true?

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

Do you love?

Today: ‘Oh, how beautiful master Zelanus is.’

Tomorrow I will stand here alone.

Did you think that I was speaking for you?

That I was boasting, working myself to death for you?

No!

I do that for myself.

What do you do?

What do you do for your husband?

Begin with your child, begin with your brother, your friend.

But do not let yourself be deceived.

When the brother comes to you and you see that you are deceived from in front and from behind, from left and right, high and low, then you say: ‘There is the door.’

You must look for your own sort, your own grade.

Go amongst each other.

I put someone down here recently, he was about to begin, also in The Hague, do you remember that?

Where is this child?

I could have kicked him away from here immediately.

But just come if you want something, you will get the opportunity, you can stand here again.

But the people say that you are deceiving.

The people will say to you about me: ‘You are wrong, you are walking with lies and deception.’

You do not need to undress any child in order to heal them.

Money?

If you want to earn money by spiritual life and consciousness, then reach and you will be standing next to it.

Can you bow your head?

Prove it.

Oh, ample consciousness, fury, anger, the spheres do not like you.

I am not speaking for you, I do that for myself.

And what you soon take with you, a book ...

Do not give me any flowers, do not give Christ any flowers, but take the books there and share them out to your friends, again, only just one book.

They have still not earned your chocolates.

Let them get those chocolates, those pieces of cake from the unconscious child; you work with the life of Christ, that is His blood.

Why does that remain lying there so long?

I will sell them myself.

I will soon go and stand behind the table and sell you all the books.

How many books will you take, for Christ, and will you share out to His Life?

Walk around in the city.

Dare to do it.

We are standing here, the universe, God, Christ, Golgotha asks it of you.

Dare to go into the street with four, five ‘Views into the Hereafter’, ‘The Peoples of the Earth’, and share them out to a child who needs them ...

You do not dare to do that.

Do not do it either, because you are still not conscious for that.

If that is possible, if that must come, it will come in time.

Just remain sitting for the meantime.

I thank you.

(Hall): ‘Thank you, master Zelanus.’

I thank you.