Good evening, my sisters and brothers.

(Hall): ‘Good evening, master Zelanus.’

I hope that you want to prepare yourself for the questions, because I will begin again with questions and answers.

Of course, you are yearning for cosmology, aren’t you?

But are you ready for the cosmology?

By means of the questions you can experience the universe, everything, the earth, art, it does not matter what; we are open for soul, spirit, life and universe.

Prepare yourself.

I will answer the questions, if it is necessary, spiritually, spatially ... and if it is necessary, at a divine attunement.

Which of you is ready to ask the first question?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master, when the human being passes over to your side and he passes over as an unconscious being, does his aura also dissolve?’

When the human being dies, and passes over to the world of the unconscious, that therefore means – you read that in ‘The Cycle of the Soul’, in ‘The Origin of the Universe’ and in ‘The Peoples of the Earth’ – then the human being comes back, the soul, as the spiritual personality, in order to be born again.

And now you ask: does the aura dissolve then?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, master.’

But what does the aura have ...

Which aura?

Which aura do you mean?

The spatial aura?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, the human aura.’

That is the core, but can something be taken away from your personality?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

Look, there you are.

Can the human being in the world take away something from you, can the human being take away something from the other human being, the animal, everything which lives there in the universe?

If you reflect and you read those books ... then you will know it.

That is not possible, that is your possession.

Right or wrong, that is your possession.

So the personality possesses that life aura.

You come back, you are attracted by father and mother, you return – you know that, you read that – as an embryo, not as a conscious being.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Because the child which is born, only experiences the new birth.

And those previous lives now belong to the subconscious.

But there is nothing to be dissolved, people do not take anything away from you; that is not possible here on earth, where will it be possible then?

Clear?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Thank you, master Zelanus.’

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, following on from this, that which remains locked up in our previous lives in our subconscious, we learn in those books that we must get to know ourselves ...’

Yes.

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ... can we get to know all of that then, there where the subconscious cannot come to the day conscious?’

You mean, would we be able to know, experience the past, your previous lives?

Can you get to know yourself in this life?

(Lady in the hall): ‘To a certain extent, perhaps.’

To a certain extent, in society; you can get to know yourself, irrevocably.

You know yourself irrevocably, because you know exactly, absolutely what you are doing.

Every thought which you materialize ...

You can think from inside, inwardly, but if it passes your lips, then that thought has materialized, and you know yourself from that.

You know what you yearn for.

But, from all those feelings, from those thousands of thoughts, the human being can get to know himself.

Socrates wanted that.

Look, you are asking about it, and the world, society is still not conscious for those systems.

But accept, there are millions of people living on earth who accept reincarnation and also had that reincarnation proved.

Here in the West you do not have it like that, but in the East children of four, five years old are already conscious for the temples and a child like that says: ‘I am master there and there, I will come back.’

The masters said beforehand: ‘I am going now, but in 43 years’ time, so many days I will be back again, and I will be born there.’

And those pieces of proof were received.

So I just mean, society laughs, society shrugs its shoulders, because the psychologist still has to lay the foundations for soul, spirit and universe, God, for everything.

But you can be your own psychologist if you feel what you think, what you think about, what you want to feel.

And, what do you do, what are you like?

You are that.

You are also that for the past, you are nothing else.

What would you still like to make conscious in your deep inner self, now that is all conscious?

You want to rise, don’t you?

You want to go higher.

When society says, when the human being says: the subconscious ...

We say that, we write, because ...

We mean: if you have to analyze hundreds of thousands of lives, you have lived in Egypt, in France, you were in England, there.

You were a man there and you were a mother there, you gave birth there, you are a mother again, but you are, in four, five centuries you will come to earth and then you will be creating, then you will be a man, you will possess the organism.

In order to give birth?

No.

Now that maternal feeling has gone.

But your lives, your deeds, your thinking, your actions, you now have that in your day consciousness, you are that from the past.

That cannot be any different, for that matter.

Now that deep subconscious is not so deep, that you can still perceive the phenomena of that in day consciousness.

Now you can say: I did art.

You were, for example, there in Egypt you were a poet, that was possible; and now, in this life, you do not have those feelings.

Now we come to the cosmology.

For what purpose do you live at the moment?

For what purpose are you on earth at present?

In order to be a mother in the very first instance, or you would not possess this organism in order to give a soul a life.

Motherhood brings us, by means of the laws, the seven grades for organic systems, organic life, brings us to a new foundation.

Every birth which you give to a soul, is a new foundation for higher development, feeling, for the mother.

The man does not experience anything.

Can you feel?

We do not experience anything, because you only create.

As a mother you have contact with God, with the universe, with all the wonderful powers and laws which you perceive in the universe, by means of which the universe manifested itself.

Can you feel this?

And now you get to see that art.

You all did art irrevocably.

There will have been a life that you acted as a yogi yourself, you were in temples.

Would you never have thought about that universe in hundreds of thousands of lives?

Would you have been capable of never even thinking for an hour about, absorbing into you, awakening, inspiration, mysticism?

Now it will come: for what purpose do you live now?

For a karmic law?

Did you murder?

Did you destroy your life?

Did you violate a human being?

Then you will have to make amends to that life.

And now it dominates all the characteristics.

This is now the personality for seventy-five, eighty percent, and that pushes that other one down.

Do you see?

Now you see again with different people, Mozart, the artists, if you follow the world for art, then you see that those lives came for art, because the earth would receive art.

Socrates came for wisdom.

In Egypt, Tibet, the priests came, they were born for wisdom, they had nothing else to do than to bring, to look and to absorb and to pass on, nothing else.

Not for fatherhood nor for motherhood; they came for wisdom.

And now that wisdom is conscious, that is your personal feeling and thinking, your wanting.

And now you make what you want of your life.

In one year you can – I explained that to you – in one year you can become cosmically conscious, if you give every thought the harmonic awakening, by materializing a word.

Listen to the people.

What do you give back?

When the people, you do not believe that, I see ...

I have spoken to people for three years, I have followed the people and absorbed them again, and I see that in those three years, after having read twenty books, after three hundred lectures, they have not received a gram of feeling of growth.

Is this for fun here?

I really did not want to come back to you again; we placed that in André’s hands.

Go, then we will be present.

You still do not begin to think.

When we say ...

This life, which you now possess, that personality, you also have that ‘beyond the grave.’

And now you can say: I have Protestantism, I am Catholic, I am Buddhist, I am Mohammedan; but on the other side there is no more religion, I can prove that to you, and I do not need to take that away from you, you get the universal awakening, you get the awakening instead of that.

Because God did not create any religions, any faith.

The human being received a faith through Moses.

Yes, from the first thinking and feeling, in order to attach the human being to God, you will read that in ‘The Peoples of the Earth’.

How do we get, how do the masters get, how do you get your deity away from that faith again; because you will experience that law.

The church has none of that.

Buddha said: ‘Do good and go.’

And what did Christ say?

I warn, not only the personality, but the inner life lays those foundations for that.

Be spacious, be spacious.

If you love society, if you love the means which you possess, your organism, then you have only just a small circle; you have that body, you have that organism, but no more than that either.

That soul, that personality, that life of feeling must grow and you can do that by thinking and feeling, and giving love, harmony, to your word, then you lay new foundations every second for that spiritual personality.

You are still not ready, here in society the human being is still not ready to start to fight against himself.

You do not do that for God, nor for Christ, nor for your father and mother, but that is your universal consciousness.

That is hammered upon by the masters, that is on the other side for you.

You cannot move a foot if you do not feel, do not love that life.

But that begins with: do you know me?

Do you know that life, do you know that flower, do you know that woman, do you know that man, do you know that child, do you know society?

Are you still capable of becoming angry, being furious?

Are you vulnerable to hatred, to jealousy – can you feel – the dark character traits in the human being, then you will also see that dark world, because you have no light.

What do we say?

Why did Christ let himself be beaten?

Why did He let himself be nailed to the cross and destroyed?

If he had just done something, then He would have lost His divine personality.

So, angry at Kajafas, at Pilate?

Just murder us; you cannot murder the human being, after all, can you?

Anything else?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, perhaps this is deviating somewhat from your subject ...’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I say, perhaps this is deviating somewhat from your subject, which you are discussing this evening, but you just formulated it like that, that you have been speaking to your listeners here for approximately three years and that unfortunately you had to acknowledge that there are a few who have most likely more or less not understood what you are formulating.’

Who accept it, materialize it themselves.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But is it not the case that certain concepts, for example, also the word personality and the word God, that the people generally understand something completely different by that than you will perhaps understand by that?’

Yes, indeed, that’s it.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘So the possibility is that if you formulate certain concepts, it seems to me that also, for example, the concept of God ... Some people will perhaps ask themselves the question: who is God?’

Yes.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No?

I, for me ... (inaudible) God is no one and yet He is ...’

Yes, but what is that no one?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Nowhere.’

No, that is not possible.

(Lady in the hall): ‘In the Divine All.’

No, that is not possible.

Now we must begin ...

That is a very good question, my friend.

Do you have anything else?

What would you like?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No. But it seems necessary to me that we go into certain concepts, which could possibly lead to a misunderstanding, that we go into them more deeply.’

Precisely.

Now remember this, all of you, all, remember God.

What is God?

Who is God?

Where does God live?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘In ourselves.’

Yes, in yourselves.

But where was the God born?

I will tell you something else?

Look, sir, what does that word God mean?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘That seems important to me too ...’

That word God, now you must think carefully.

When the human being came to earth ...

We do not need to go to other planets, we will come there soon.

But the human being, the human history began – do you wish to accept that? – in the embryonic life.

The biologist is already that far.

You can accept that, you must lay a foundation: the human being was born in the waters, and began as an embryo.

So that embryo had millions, millions of lives and then there was still not a God.

Then there was a God, but the God whom we know now, He was not there yet.

There was not a Christ either.

I will go back for a moment to the prehistoric age.

There were people living – do you accept that? – a hundred thousand years ago on earth.

People lived on this earth and those people were prehistoric.

You also saw those animal species.

You can still admire the skeletons.

There are giant reptiles living on earth and the human being was also a giant.

Did you think, did you really think that those people had nothing to do with your century, nothing to do with God, with the All-Source, nothing?

Do you know that, do you know that too?

Those people have had lives upon lives, they have experienced their cycle of the earth, the end here.

What is the end of the planet?

When does that happen?

When do you enter that end?

The books ‘The Origin of the Universe’ tell you that.

The human being comes from the jungle now, to the conscious planet, to the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org).

The eastern organism also belongs to the seventh grade for the human organism, which is called the types of race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) by the academic (in 1950).

But those are grades of life.

If you now get hold of the book ‘The Peoples of the Earth’, then you get the beginning and the end for the human cycle.

I want to explain to you that when those people entered the astral, spiritual world, then they were conscious.

They wondered: where did the sunlight go to, we are living in night?

But those people did not know God, or Christ.

Those people did not get the bible.

I once asked here one evening: did those people have it easier, or did they have it more difficult than you?

Can you give an answer to that?

(Various people in the hall): ‘Easier.’

Easier.

Why?

But why?

(Someone in the hall says something.)

Do you not accept that?

(People talk at the same time.)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I said, that is not so simple ... (inaudible) whether that is easier.’

Look, that can be established very simply, and a great deal of people have decided that for themselves, because those people did not have the bible.

But the bible took the human being to the darkness and also to a certain extent to the light.

Because of the religions the human has been released from the pure universe, that is God.

Everything which lives in this universe is God, it does not matter now whether there is more behind this universe, we are involved with this universe, with this universe, with planets, suns and stars, we come to the planets, this is the planet, we see that nature, we see the human being and we experience the animal, and all of that, night, light, darkness, all those organs, that is God.

But it has nothing to do with a God whom we have got to know.

(Someone in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... personification ...’

No, that is not possible.

Because that word God, we call that Wayti on the other side.

Or just give it another name, because the masters – you will read that in ‘The Peoples of the Earth’ – the masters began at the beginning, when a human being came who said: ‘I am alive.

And no one knows where I came from’, because he saw his mother, his father.

And that was Moses.

Abraham was already there.

But then Moses came: ‘I want to bring that which I am to the earth!’

And then the masters manifested themselves.

They say:

Moses said: ‘Who are you?’

‘I am a deity.

I am God.’

Because you are that, that is all the life, that life represents the All-Mother, the All-Source, the All-Light, the All-Life, but especially, the elemental and condensing laws, but especially, fatherhood and motherhood for everything.

Can you feel this?

That is God.

And how do we get to know that God?

Because we experience those laws of life as a human being, that is for the animal and that is for Mother Nature.

Now the masters have managed to comprise all of this in one little word, one thought.

That was humanly thought up.

So that means: wherever you live, does not matter, that human being started to think about God.

That did not come from the seventh sphere, from a hereafter, but that came from the divine conscious human source.

Which the human being knew everything about.

Can you accept that?

Could you accept that the Divine All is inhabited at the moment?

That people live there who lived here on earth, who lived in the prehistoric ages, completed their cycle, went further, developed themselves? They have awakened, now spiritually awakened; and the macrocosmos created a new universe.

Because God said, we got to know that by means of the condensing laws: ‘You will multiply.’

So now you can – a short cosmic explanation – so now you can accept, and you will also experience that every cell is father and mother, can’t you?

Every cell gives birth and creates.

So, wherever you look, whether you see a tree, a flower, a plant ...

Put a plant, put a flower in the earth and you will see a new cell developing, everything gets new space.

So this space obviously created as a rarefied mass, in which those planets live – can you feel that? – it created another space.

The sun and moon created, the planets created; the stars created new stars for higher thinking, feeling, higher, more rarefied, spiritual radiance.

We go back to the divine source.

That God now, he can only be experienced, not through the bible now, nor through the words of Buddha, the temple in British India, Tibet, ancient Egypt, but through you being a man, you being a mother, through fatherhood and motherhood, those are the essential laws for everything, and that is now the God of all the life.

But not the God which you see in the bible.

Is that clear?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Can you accept all of that?

Then you will get to see your divine space.

So the masters encompassed that All-Source and said: how should we call that, in order to give the human being an idea, what all of this actually is now?

Because that originated from giving birth.

That originated for the East, take Ramakrishna, take the initiates from Egypt, for them the God of all life was mother in the very first place.

The West does not know God, does not know the All-Source as mother.

On the contrary, people see here, in the West people see the father.

But God, the actual source of God originated from motherhood.

Can you feel that?

And that is now the mother.

The mother possesses that All-Source as a human being, an animal possesses that All-Source as an animal.

If you look at a flower, then you can see the All-Source in the core.

What is the space of a flower, what is the independence of a human being, of a planet, a horse, another animal in the waters?

Can you feel that?

The human being, the spark of God got independence, the possession of himself, and because of that – now I place you before a law – and because of that the All-Mother, the All-Source, the All-Light, the All-Life, isn’t it true, the All-Personality manifested itself.

What are you, I ask now, for the All-Source on earth, what are you now as a human being?

Human being?

You are a part of that creation.

But what are you actually?

(People talk at the same time.)

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘An independent part.’

You are an independent part.

But it is still not that.

(Someone in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘A spark.’

You are a deity.

You are a deity, yes.

You are that.

But I do not mean that.

You see, we are going that far now.

How many lectures did you experience?

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

Yes.

But I will explain it to you and then you must also listen carefully, then you will suddenly know the space.

We must all earn that space.

I say: be affectionate, be loving.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I hope that you will not blame me, but ...’

Are you writing that down, is that for yourself?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘What did you say?’

Is that for yourself, what you are writing down?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, that is for ...’

I like concrete questions and searching.

What is now ...

Remember this: what are you now yourself?

André also explained it yesterday.

You see, I happened to be with you.

I was sitting next to you, I was steering, you know.

What are you now for the universe?

(People talk at the same time.)

Yes, you are also that.

You are also that, you see.

Now come on, come on.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘We represent the Divine All.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘We represent the Divine All.’

You represent the Divine All, you represent the light, the All-Light, the All-Life, the All-Soul, the All-Spirit, the All-Fatherhood, the All-Motherhood, the elemental laws of condensing, laws of hardening, the harmony, you represent the divine harmony.

But what do we have of that?

But what else are we?

By what means, what did God actually create in order to depict the human being?

You, who gave you that name human being?

Who was that?

Let us continue, let us go further, let us broach that problem, that core deeper.

Who gave the name human being?

Who was that?

Well, who gave you that?

Who brought the name human being to earth?

God himself?

God never spoke as a human being.

(People in the hall): ‘No.’

Do you see?

Remember that.

Now ...

My followers of five years old.

You see.

What are we speaking for now?

How much they are learning.

Oh, the actual core is discussed day in day out.

(Lady in the hall): ‘The human being himself.’

I said it.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... also the concept of human being has not yet permeated.’

What would you wish?

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

But my dear friend, I said that like that, I would have liked to have seen more becoming conscious, after so many lectures.

Can you feel?

The books ...

We want to talk ourselves to death, but we want to see awakening.

A blade of grass, a cell, a flower, whatever, an animal being experiences more, thinks more, than the human being.

But why again, do you see?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Because in general the average person is not on a very good footing with thinking.’

Also true.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘It remains sticking to the surface and they do not think the matter through, and are satisfied with a rather superficial knowledge.’

That’s it.

The human being does not think.

The human being does not want to think.

He says: I cannot.

Isn’t it simple?

Isn’t it simple?

How did that flower originate?

What happens when we now return to the earth?

How is your bread baked, don’t you think?

Where is the material of the one you carry?

By what means?

And then we come to the beginning stage, and the final stage is life aura.

You come, by means of everything of the material on earth you come back to the source of life.

Then there was nothing, then there was only life, the All-Mother was there, the All-Light still had to be born.

There was a giving birth in space, only life, plasma, protoplasm.

But what are you now as a human being?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Working.’

What meaning do you have as a human being?

You call yourself man and woman.

But space does not know any man and woman.

Now it will come.

(People talk at the same time.)

(Lady in the hall): ‘Fatherhood and motherhood.’

Fatherhood and motherhood, the universe knows that.

But it is still not that.

So for the core ... you want to learn to think, then we must possess that one word, that one foundation, otherwise we cannot continue for the cosmology, for your life.

If ...

(To someone in the hall): I will come to you in a minute.

If you finish a law, a thought, an action, half-consciously and you have not experienced it, what will your girl-friend, your sister, your brother say then?

‘If only you had given that to the pigs.’

Isn’t it true?

Do you recognize the human being – I am taking you there – do you recognize that life when that life grants you something, gives something?

What will come to you now when the human being gives himself according to the divine laws?

(From different sides): ‘Feeling.’

Love, feeling.

Feeling.

Now, now you will feel, we will need two, three, five years for this in order to analyze the bible.

You can get to know the bible in one week, in two hours, but then you continue yourself.

Because, who spoke about the human being for the first time?

Who was that?

That is for the whole of this world, my friend, for the Catholic Church, for Protestantism, and all those sects, who are directly attuned to the bible in a Western way, that is God, isn’t it?

That is God.

Because the bible is accepted as the divine word, irrevocably accepted.

And now the bible begins, do not be shocked, it is very simple, with an untruth.

Because – yes, wait a moment – do you still believe in clay and some breathe of life?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

That God made the human being by breathing in some clay, some breathe of life?

Why, cosmology asks, why did bible writers not say anything about Mother Moon, about the universe?

It began here on earth.

The bible writers did not become released from the earth.

It began with a story: there was night and there was light.

Now here we are; what is true now?

Does the human child long, does the life on earth long to be called a human being, according to life wisdom?

What is true, and what are lies and deception?

In which century do you actually live?

In which grade of feeling do you live?

Do you see?

Who first spoke about the human being?

I am asking you that, because you always have the pleasure of associating with André.

He explained it to you a hundred thousand times.

Please.

You see.

Pearls before the swine?

No.

But is it getting through to you what you receive each day?

Yes, but we know it.

Who does not yet know it?

I remember so that you will learn to think.

If you learn to think, you will get space.

You create happiness, you take care of your wife, your mother, your child in love and you get the divine, the spatial, the spiritual kiss.

I was talking here recently about Catholicism.

But if ...

It was Jozef Rulof.

Now just read ‘Jeus of Mother Crisje.’

And when you read the second part soon, then you will get from your wife, if you are a good, hundred percent Catholic, you will get a Catholic love from your wife.

No more than that.

Because there is no space.

The kiss, the love which you get from your wife or your husband, goes – and that is infallible – goes through the personality.

And if that personality now accepts damnation, how will you be able to experience spatial love then?

Isn’t that true, my friend?

But the human being does not want that, the human being does not think about these things.

Who first spoke about the human being?

(To someone in the hall): I  must talk to you this evening.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

(Laughter in the hall.)

(Someone in the hall says something.)

Yes.

What did you say, Adolf Hitler?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The angel Gabriel?’

We never knew him.

That angel Gabriel never lived in the universe.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Adam and ...’

Adam and his snake.

Or the snake.

I am the snake, I am the snake.

Just continue.

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

Do not be ashamed of anything.

But we will stay friends.

(Gentleman in the hall); ‘Yes, I hope so too.’

We are open to a fight for life and death.

You will never feel irritated here, otherwise there will be nothing, then it will have no meaning.

Free, we are researching.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But it concerns the truth, doesn’t it?

That is what it is about.

And you can test me as much as you like.

You keep giving me the answer and you never leave here angry, because you come back.

I would like to take a thousand years to do it, we must take a thousand years to do it, thousands of lectures – wait a moment – in order to bring the human being to awakening, then you will learn something.

Then you will be ‘beyond the coffin’, then you will be ready to use the ‘wings’.

What is the matter?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘This is why it may also be important, if, for example, sir, you ... (inaudible) there are few people in the audience who can give an answer to the concept of human being, which you also give an answer to there ... (inaudible), in order to stimulate their thinking, because it is oh so easy to repeat it over and over.

In this way people cultivate ...’

That’s it.

I want to stimulate you.

I will tell you something, they will soon all know it.

Then they will say: oh yes, oh yes, how can it be?

You only just hear that recently: ‘how can it be?’.

But everything can be, everything is possible, there are no wonders, just continue.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘For example, you are also talking about the bible ... (inaudible), that the bible begins with an untruth.’

Yes.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Now I must be able to conclude from ... (inaudible), that you are attuned in a fairly Eastern way ...’

Yes, continue.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... but, you also know that the bible, for example, is an Eastern book, and the Oriental thinks purely ...’

Yes.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... not concretely.’

No no.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... this is also why we can and must accept the bible as a pure eastern book.’

Yes, but Eastern or Western, you will feel, Tibetan or Chinese or Japanese, it does not matter, you hold yourself to your word there.

And then we must begin to just – but I will come back to that, have a think – then we must begin ...

What does the bible begin with?

In the first place: let there be night and let there be light.

Good.

But there is never night in the universe.

There has not been night in the universe for billions of years.

When creation began, then the paternal authority was coming, that is the sun, the radiance, and gave the moon inspiration.

From that moment, millions of centuries and ages ago, there was never night again in the universe.

Did God, who says that in the bible, not know His creation, because He said: we must make a light for the night and a light for the day?

Yes, the minister says.

Yes?

God said: we will make a light for the night and a light for the day.

And the earth makes night, it is the earth, it is not even the moon.

Is that God who speaks there in the bible, an unconscious being?

Does he not know His creation?

Now the mistakes begin.

And now you can continue.

‘He said: And Divine spirit floated over the waters.’

Divine spirit did not need to float over the waters, because the spirit of the water lives in the waters, and that is the space for the fish.

Who spoke for the first time about the ‘human being’?

(Different people in the hall react.)

What did you say?

(Someone in the hall says something.)

No, child, no.

We are talking about the bible, you should know.

Who spoke for the first time about the human being?

(People in the hall): ‘The bible.’

The bible.

You see.

The bible, the bible began talking about a ‘human being.’

Why?

Because he was a human being.

But God did not create any human beings.

You see, so the bible begins – that can be seen and analyzed cosmically, we can continue, we also continue, that can be seen – the bible begins by telling the second untruth.

Now we are already in a fix.

The light for the universe ...

There is no night, the earth did that, the earth made a revolution.

There is always light above the earth.

Does that deity, that divine personality, does He know His creation?

Would you write that for this age, if you know that there is no night in the universe?

So who wrote the bible?

Did those bible writers receive – they were people – did they receive the divine word?

Did God speak there as the All-Source by means of the human being?

What are we talking about now, what are we telling now, what are we bringing now, for this age?

This age is called ‘The Age of Christ’.

That means Christ is now bringing through masters, through His life, the higher conscious grade, a new becoming conscious, a new feeling, higher thinking.

Is that clear?

Did you think that the world can continue, society can live, the peoples of the earth must remain standing still with the bible, by the bible, on the bible?

Can you feel this?

This age is getting new awakening.

Those books are for that.

Those books which André has, you can compare them to all the wisdom of Tibet, China, British India.

No one in the world possesses that core, that depth.

And on and on.

So you can already accept, really, make comparisons with theosophy, with Blavatsky ...

You see.

And then you reach the spatial core, you get spatial consciousness at this moment, no longer any human consciousness.

Are you already floating?

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, I am not.’

So they spoke about the ‘human being’?

They were the bible writers, they were people.

But the bible writer did not give the human being any spatial personality, or light, or life, on the contrary, the bible writers start to damn the human being.

Let someone come from the universe one day to André who will say: ‘You will be damned soon.’

‘See that you get out of here!’

That is the Satan, madam.

That is satanic work.

But what are you as a human being?

A new foundation again.

What are you now as a human being?

Do you know it?

(Lady in the hall says something.)

Do you know it?

Do you read cosmology?

Then do not say anything, then it is no longer art.

But you experienced the lectures, you read the books.

What kind of human being are you now?

‘The Peoples of the Earth’ will tell you.

‘The Origin of the Universe will tell you.

You see, now you learn to think.

Read ‘Spiritual Gifts’ sometime.

People ask André: ‘Will there be a war?’

‘Yes’, says André, ‘because Our Lord changed his mind.’

You see, just look at society, the human being is falling asleep again, afraid of death; and death, the destroying of this organism, is evolution for your spirit.

This afternoon we recorded the astrology.

What is astrology?

I will hold you to that foundation.

What are you as a human being?

Think it through.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Working.’

(Lady in the hall): ‘Working, master Zelanus.’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Working.’

Working.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Or conscious feeling.’

Yes, you see ...

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Immeasurable.’

You are immeasurable, of course.

Unconscious feeling?

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, conscious feeling, because those bible writers were unconscious.’

So you are already conscious?

(To someone in the hall): What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘A grade of life.’

A grade of life, sir, my friend.

The human being is a grade of life for God, and in that grade of life we are either father or mother.

We are therefore a grade of life as soul, as divine core, as All-Source capacity, as spirit, as life, we are a law of condensing, because is your material, is your castle, your temple not condensed?

The human being here, they are not people, they are divine grades of life.

God himself, I am now speaking to God himself.

Because that is God.

Later the biologist, the psychologist will have to, the astronomer will have to accept, but especially the psychologist, that there are no people living on earth, but that there are grades of life for human feeling and thinking, for the human organism on earth, created by the planet as mother.

And then we come ...

André spoke to you, after all, didn’t he?

Read ‘Spiritual Gifts’.

Read ‘Spiritual Gifts’, because then you will come from your jungle attunement to the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org), the seventh grade of life for the human organism, and now we will experience together, we will follow the analyses, if we want to look and see what is good and wrong in us.

That is the spatial bible, that is the new bible, because now the human being gets to know God.

And now God is not a human being with a beard, he never spoke; God speaks through you, through this fatherhood and motherhood.

This is the essential source, they are the essential foundations, laid by the All-Mother for herself.

The human being says: you are a human being and you are a priest, you are an academic and you are this and you are that.

No, we have to do with a life form as a grade for the All-Source.

You represent here in this world your All-Source as a physical and spiritual attunement.

Is that clear?

Are you now getting a different picture of what actually happens to you here on earth and where you go?

I will ask you something else, if you hate someone; who do you hate then?

Deceive a human being; who is now deceiving you?

Always and eternally yourself again, yourself, yourself.

You deform your divine evolution, you bring darkness where you will have to bring light.

You give space to your social life; the life on earth is sanctifying.

You are spatially deep.

You must begin this evening, today to be truly happy and glad, even if you do not have food, even if you are walking around with cancer.

Because you must say: Thank God, I will die soon, because I will get a new life.

You are here now, you are a part of this people, you will soon probably go back to America or England, France, Germany, Italy, and you will become a prince or a princess.

What are you longing for?

Who are you now, in what grade, in what grade of life do you live now?

The human being has seven physical grades; here are seven different grades for one organism.

That therefore means, when you reach the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org), then you still have to experience seven transitions, before you possess the actual natural becoming conscious for this system, your blood circulation.

And if that blood circulation has been purified now, because you are all sick, you are all deformed, then ...

Where does the divine core live, sir, my friend?

People asked me the question: what do you think about blood transfusion?

Yes, what would you think about that?

You will feel, now you come to the cosmic attunement for blood transfusion.

Everything is present in the blood.

The doctor does not determine the depth of a disease.

You can now check with me about insanity.

Tell it.

The cancer, the tuberculosis, the leprosy lives in that blood, in the blood.

The disease, but also the spiritual unconscious, lives in the human sperm.

Yes, where is this heading this evening?

Can you feel, now the human being is given blood from another person and gets without knowing and wanting it, because the doctor cannot gauge the dept of the blood, not the plasma, and this patient is injected with cancer.

Is that not possible?

We explained, you cannot experience it anyway, because you must now be able to become at least a hundred and fifty years, but then that disease occurs.

Now your life is too short, you become sixty, seventy years old and you must be able to live seventy years or eighty or a hundred, a hundred and twenty years, if that blood is to be able to manifest itself on the surface of the life of feeling and space.

And what begins now?

Now we are in a medical field.

What happens now, because of that blood, when that disease speaks?

What do you get now?

These are not machines, are they?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, they are not that.’

But it lives in the same source.

Now you get rotting.

Being sick reveals itself, manifests itself.

Do you see?

You get to see that science still has to lay the first foundations for soul, for the organism, for the spirit and the life.

But now stick to the bible.

I can go as far as you want and you can listen to that.

You can already record it scientifically: yes, the child is born in the mother by the embryonic life, so that is not insanity.

Cancer is in the human being.

The blood transfusion gives the human being, certainly, new power.

We say: no, I do not want any blood from you, because I want to die, because death gives me evolution, gives me space, I will soon go back again.

You get ...

Yes, I tell you, something else again, you will feel: every word, every thing which we touch, is already universally deep.

Because ...

You get blood from another, you can keep your life by means of that transfusion, or you will die.

Can the human being expand the life himself by means of accepting the blood transfusion of another life, is that possible?

(Hall): ‘No.’

Why is that not possible?

(People talk at the same time.)

(Lady in the hall): ‘Perhaps that it just helps for a certain time.’

Yes.

But now you get, you are lying there and are ill and people keep you alive by means of a blood transfusion.

Is that true?

Is that true?

(Lady in the hall): ‘That has just happened, an incident.’

No, that happens every day.

But is that possible for the cosmos, for the universe, is that possible for your cycle, is that possible?

(Hall): ‘No.’

But what does this mean?

What ...

In the prehistoric age the people did not have that, no transfusion, no aspirin, they could not operate upon themselves, because they would die from that tumour, from that deformation.

Were those people better off than you in these times?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Their evolution was faster.’

Their evolution was so pure as the state of purity for the universe.

They did not know any spiritual disorders.

You all live under a spiritual destruction, because the bible writers did not know the God of all life.

So now you get, now you go to the university, don’t you, the child starts to learn, becomes a minister, a theologian.

André explained it this week, through me.

Because do you know the fire?

André gave the explanation, this one.

And God wants that, Christ wants that.

The theologian goes to a university, but there is also a biologist there, a geologist, an astronomer.

Is that true or not?

Now you must listen, then you will get to see your Supreme Court for your universities.

And then you will be able to see that the university – not the pope who suffocated that Galilei in the prison of the Vatican because of the inquisition – but then you will see that your university suffocates the life light of this mankind, every second.

Because what happens now?

What is there, what is happening in this society when you look at the minister, the theologian, the biologist, the geologist, the psychologist, the astronomer?

They are faculties, aren’t they?

But now the astronomer can explain to the theologian that the bible begins with nonsense, sir, because there is light behind the earth.

‘Yes, that is true.’

So the bible begins with an untruth, after all.

And the theologian, just listen, in the universe ....

The Vatican is also already beginning to give the orders in order to say: really look, academics, whether we were born in the waters.

But stay away from the first Adam and Eve.

Do you see?

And that is necessary.

(Lady in the hall): ‘My minister already told me when I was doing the catechism, that was in 1915, 1916, that it was a poem, an Eastern poem.’

Well done.

(Lady in the hall): ‘And that it should not be considered as a real event.’

Well done.

There are thousands of ministers ...

(Lady in the hall): ‘Those Orthodox ministers ...’

Yes, that Orthodox Church ... who can no longer accept that, because they say: no, that is not true.

But now the university.

The astronomer can say: look, that begins with an untruth.

But the Supreme Court says: stay away.

You can go as far as here and not further.

And now the astronomer, the biologist, the geologist must, they must keep quiet, because people here on earth in the West have already known for twenty-five years that the bible begins with an untruth.

But what happens now?

We must continue in order to give the human being that awakening, but you cannot deny the human being, those millions of the earth, you cannot just suddenly deny them that hold, that foundation and hit them from the bible.

Because can we give the human being a new consciousness within a week, give them that peace?

Millions of people?

So it goes slowly.

But people are already in your people, amongst your people, your universities got the consciousness, that the bible really begins with so many pages of nonsense and then is a very simple human history.

That of yours has much more meaning than that of the bible.

Can you feel that?

Do you understand that you cannot free yourself from the divine word?

On the contrary, you get the spatial word in return for it.

Is that true or not?

Is that true now?

You are not saying anything.

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, a moment ago you were at a point which was not finished completely ...’

I will remember that.

(Lady in the hall): ‘About that blood transfusion.

Whether that life was prolonged, I mean.’

I gave you that.

Can that life be prolonged?

Look ...

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, what happens with a blood transfusion, then you actually take something away from another.’

You take something away from another in order to prolong that life.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Listen carefully.

And that happens every day, or the human being must die ...

Can you now, because that is what it is about, can you now look back to the past, where you were going to die?

But is that death, is that dying, has that hour changed in the centuries which passed?

That is it.

Has that century changed?

What will you get soon?

We are talking about karmic laws, you have to experience karmic laws, someone lives there for marriage, society, possession, doesn’t he?

There are men and women, they have a hell on earth, because one does not understand the other.

And a child is walking there for him: loving, beautiful and sweet, but he is lying there locked, tied to his clamps and his traps.

You have to finish that life.

Anyone who does not do that, must decide for himself.

But we say in ‘The Peoples of the Earth’: soon you will stand before the paradises on earth, the kingdom of God, and you will almost be there.

The kingdom of God, that is already walking through the streets of your city.

Can you accept that, now that you still have a war in Korea?

You see, millions of questions charge at you.

But, do you understand, - in order to finish that now – that the blood transfusion has consciousness in order to dissolve the suffering process for the human being?

And that the blood transfusion already belongs to this century?

Can you feel this?

Soon the human being, science will have instruments by means of which every disease will dissolve, tuberculosis, cancer and everything, you will read that in the book ‘The Peoples of the Earth.’

So the human being will live.

Then society will have, then the faculty will have, the university, the personality will have brought mankind to higher thinking and feeling, and now he has those karmic laws in his hands, that is development.

Is this – now we will continue again, and that will come – is this unjust with regard to those people there in the prehistoric age?

Is that unjust?

Because those people would die.

This is why I said, I asked you: can you prolong your life by means of having a blood transfusion?

No, you cannot do that.

And it happens, that now belongs to your society, that belongs to the consciousness for this mankind.

Can you feel?

So all the technical wonders which you will soon get, will make your life happy and make you feel content.

That is all evolution.

Because in hundreds of years, what will the world be like in a hundred thousand years?

Then the human being will really live in paradise.

God meant that, that is the deity, the spiritual God on earth, and then you will no longer need to do anything else but breathe and make trips over the world.

You will only have to take care of motherhood and fatherhood, no more than that.

Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘That aura, what is the situation with that?’

Which aura?

(Lady in the hall): ‘From the person who would die, when she does not have a blood transfusion.’

The life aura of the human being?

Look, the life aura of the human being, where does it come from?

Who gives aura to the life, who?

(Someone in the hall): ‘Himself.’

Who?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The human being himself.’

(Someone in the hall): ‘The personality.’

The personality.

So you get, you do not experience any spiritual destruction if you are ill, but physical collapse.

Your spirit remains as conscious as the life of feeling is, can you feel this?

(Lady in the hall): ‘You are given a certain amount at birth.’

No, you are that.

You are given life aura, did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

The spirit, the personality, the more you are conscious ...

You are here on earth, so you already possess this space as consciousness within you.

You have this space, even if you are not conscious of those laws, you have the feeling, you are that, or you would not be here, so that is universally deep.

As deep as this universe.

Because you live on earth, you will soon go there.

And if you continue, you will not come back again, then you will have conquered this space.

So you are inexhaustible in life aura.

Only your body, if you chop off your arm, then that spiritual arm is still there, you cannot destroy that.

Clear?

But you will feel, every word, every question has life depth, spatial consciousness, and I will let you feel that, so that you will think again.

What is it?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I also wanted to ask about the blood transfusion.

If a person now refuses to prolong his life by means of the blood transfusion, is that bad?’

If you refuse?

No, of course not.

If you, this is cosmology now, this is the spatial cosmology ...

If you are ill and you can get a transfusion, and you say: I do not want it, then you will still pass over when it is your time.

Even if you pass over in five minutes and a doctor says: ‘You can still live for so many years.’

‘No, doctor, I do not want that, I want to go.’

Can you feel this?

Who decides here about passing over?

Which consciousness is that?

You are that.

The blood has no consciousness; it keeps the body alive.

But your life of feeling will say: yes or no.

And that is the end of the body, you see.

The body does not die.

What nonsense, what nonsense we are talking now, the body does not die.

I will come back to you.

(To someone in the hall): Does the organism die?

(Someone in the hall): ‘No.’

But what does it do then?

(Hall): ‘Dissolve.’

Yes, that is a rotting process.

No, what is dying now?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The separation of ...’

The separation.

The spirit does not take leave.

There is no dying.

You die, and now that word ‘dying’ must disappear from the earth.

There is no dying.

You free yourself as a spiritual personality and you go to the new birth, or you go straight on to the Spheres of Light.

Is there still dying, is there still misery, is there still loss?

Have you lost your child, your mother, your love?

Was loss, misery, suffering and sorrow really created by God?

How many millions of people do not weep every day: I have lost my husband, I have lost my child, I have lost my mother.

You cannot lose anything for your deity, but you are attached to that little human being next to you.

You only love that child.

Do not touch my wife, do not touch my husband.

What does the universe say?

Is my love, who belongs to me, capable of thinking of something else, in order to leave me alone?

Then just go, I am happy that we are rid of you.

Because for the universe, for the feeling, for God, for your divine awakening it is called: I will not leave you, because I cannot leave you, because you have my blood and my life, you are twin souls or you will never be it.

If you are angry and your wife, your husband, look ...

‘Where have you been so late?’

What is late for God, for the universe?

What do you have for each other?

Why do you not adulate each other?

Yes, there he comes: ‘Just let me kiss you.’

The word, the analysis, the talking, the thinking, you carry each other by means of that.

Is that true or not?

(Lady in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, master Zelanus, I am always bothered by that, by that problem, I already told you before, I think, that must always come from two sides, after all, because if one person wants and the other one does not.’ (laughter in the hall)

Thousands of mothers and fathers are alone.

There are people here, I experience that, also in the universe, people come, families perish, the father and mother pass over there.

The father is open, the man is open, and the mother said on earth: ‘I do not want anything to do with that carry-on.’

And now I can take care of the husband.

‘Just come, my child.’

Yes, now, look at that creator, I will explain the universe to you.

If you have ballast from the bible with you, then it will first go overboard.

I will prepare you, naked.

People will say: you will stand naked before God.

You are standing there, you must feel, think, you awaken, you want to say something and you are completely off the mark.

You have no words, you do not float, you are standing there and you start to weep, because you cannot go forwards or backwards, or upwards, or left, or right, you must first lay your foundations.

But here on earth that is the awe-inspiring tumour which there is.

But now you experience your karma.

Now you cannot experience that spatial kiss.

There are people, my people, we see that, they go home together in the evening, they start to talk, they go to sleep, hand in hand, think and talk about this.

She is open as a mother and he as a father, and then they get the universal kiss.

I will not continue, because then you will begin to cry.

But just cry until your tears run dry.

You can ...

What are we like?

What is the consciousness for the universe?

Why do you suffer?

Can you be beaten on earth?

When you come ‘beyond the coffin’ and you complain: ‘Oh, I was beaten so much’, then you have not been beaten.

Because the human being who is conscious ....

The God who ...

Look, the God who awakens in you, wants to be beaten, because by means of that suffering and sorrow you learn to think and feel, you learn to accept.

You do not get any love?

Is that love, that kiss, that action by the other personality worth so much?

Does that have meaning?

Are you alone?

If you are alone, is the human being in society alone?

Yes, alone.

Because they do not know themselves, because they do not know God.

It begins on the other side, in the first sphere.

You get everything there.

But we get everything back.

One wrong thought rattles you from that sphere, from that harmony, from that love, from that being carried, from that wanting to accept, yes, of course.

One wrong thought, from your whole dictionary ....

Throw the hatred, the disharmony, the injustice, lies and deception, being discordial, unreal, unnatural, just quickly throw that aside, because you must be just, natural, harmonic, loving, benevolent.

Yes, who are you?

What do you want?

What are you looking for?

Do not look inside the other human being, but awaken it in yourself, because you are experiencing your karmic law at this moment.

Because you cannot marry a man on earth, or you will have to do with that life as a mother, and he with you.

You or he, one of the two of you will have to make good.

The sensitive human being, the man or the mother, the most sensitive human being, that is the suffering personality.

If you are beaten, if you are kicked, are you not understood?

Do you really know that you know and possess the law ‘understanding’?

When are you true?

You sometimes say: ‘Yes, but you do not understand me.’

But when can you prove to the other life that you are really open in order to absorb, to analyze, to experience and to love what is said?

In the universe there is, here on earth there is no being beaten, can you feel, because you are busy with your evolution.

Not only materially, no, spiritually.

Your personality will learn here.

You can subject André to what you want, you can no longer beat him, no longer hate him, you can snap and snarl as loud as you like, you will still get love back for that.

Because if he says one wrong word, he will have lost his possession.

If the other life hits you, do not hit back, because you will also begin to be harsh.

What did Christ do?

When are you harmony in everything for your society?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Accepting.’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall: ‘If you accept.’

If you accept everything, but then absolutely everything, every thought.

It concerns faith, it concerns hope, it concerns something which has meaning, it concerns Mother Nature, to first consider, feel everything first and to experience the ultimate, so that you really can say: you are right.

Just stand before the human being on the other side and say: ‘Oh no, that is not possible’ and you will feel proud, you cannot bow your head yet; what will happen then?

You will inhibit your evolution, you will smother yourself, your foundations will disappear because of one wrong thought.

Isn’t it true?

Did Christ not teach that?

But what does the church say now, what does the bible say again, my friend?

There is hating and whoring and beating that pieces fly off them, the human being is treated worse than the rotting corpse which you lower into the earth.

The human being is damned and murdered there by a God who loves, the God of the Old Testament.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus ...’

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But is that not the unity of the opposite?’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Is that not the unity of the opposite?’

The opposite?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The unity of the opposite.’

Unity of the opposite?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Unity of the opposite, the concept of whore, the concept of evil ...’

No, no no no no, no, no; yes, it is that, that is the spiritual source, that is the spiritual core.

But you are sticking to the bible, what it says there, because that is accepted by millions of people, the theologian must proclaim that, you must learn that if you are dogmatic in the Protestant way, Orthodox, Reformed.

So that is law: you can, you may not change one word of the bible, isn’t it true?

That is the law, that is the university, or you will not get your title.

So you are steered amongst the masses, amongst the child of God with lies, hatred and cheating.

Because that is true what happened there: God can beat, God can also let you burn.

That is the bible.

Another terrible thing.

Do you still accept in this age that you can be damned and that you can really be sent there?

Moses was a rebel, a rebel, a spiritual rebel.

When the masters, when God comes ...

Let’s say – who is God? – an inspiration comes and that is God, and it says to Jozef Rulof: ‘You will go to that people and you will elevate that people to Me.’

That happened, didn’t it?

Then Jozef Rulof says: ‘The ‘droodles’.’

You will read that in ‘Jeus’ for that matter.

Then he says: ‘Do that yourself.

Do you wish to proclaim to me that I will sully and hit your child, your life, my life, so that I will elevate the unconscious beings to your life?’

Can you feel where we are going?

And that this is not nonsense?

Is your society now prepared to receive the love already?

But then we must be free from the bible.

A new bible is also being written and the earth will get the new bible, but that begins with the origin, with the manifesting of the All-Mother.

The moment when the protoplasm filled this space as universe, it begins there.

Jozef Rulof already has seven parts for the new bible.

The world will not accept us, but the world can listen, that we have nothing to do with dogmatic, pious, religions institutions, because the bible begins with the human word, with some clay and some breathe of life.

That ‘let us make people in my image’; what is the image of you?

Where do you come from?

The university, the psychologist does not believe in reincarnation.

The child which is now born with the mother, is precisely five seconds old today.

There is no reincarnation.

Theosophists say ...

Yes, now, now they get it from the books of André.

‘Yes, we were nature first and then animal and then human being.’ Blavatsky said that.

But now theosophy twists it, since the four, five, six years that our books are on earth, now it says ...

‘Yes, but we knew that.’

Yes, but why did Blavatsky not speak about that as your prophet of theosophy?

She did not know it.

Blavatsky disembodied, but she was never conscious ‘beyond the coffin’, because there is no more nonsense living there.

If you want evil, then the animal life will get ... the being from the dark obscure spheres – I cannot say of light – you crawl there if there is hatred in you.

(The sound technician gives a signal.)

We are already being warned.

We must stop.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, I just wanted to ask you too: but do we not have a great deal to thank psychology for?’

You still have nothing to thank psychology for, because psychology still has to begin.

You do not need to thank that psychologist yet, because Freud, Jung, Adler, Schopenhauer do not know this.

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Dostoevsky.’

Dostoevsky was materially conscious, knew nothing about the other side.

Krishnamurti, Ramakrishna, yes, indeed.

Ramakrishna ....

Do you believe it?

I wrote ‘Spiritual Gifts’, not Jozef Rulof; Jozef Rulof cannot do that, and no one, no one on earth can write those books, because that wisdom is not there yet.

Can you accept that?

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

Now read, from now, if you have followed, experienced the lectures, and you ask questions, then read in the first instance ‘Spiritual Gifts’, ‘The Peoples of the Earth’ and ‘The Origin of the Universe’, if you have them – if you do not have them, you can borrow them, we have the library here - then you will reach that life space.

Ramakrishna disembodied.

Ramakrishna entered the third sphere.

He gauges the attunement of his inner life, and he says: ‘Mother, mother, I can feel you.’

Then he looked into my face; he was my follower.

If you read ‘Spiritual Gifts’ ...

The initiated, Egypt, China, Tibet ...

I had to follow and experience every thought by Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Buddha and work out the attunement of and for the human life of feeling, if I wanted to determine the ultimate of this human thinking and feeling and be able to say: ‘Buddha, you see only a spiritual atmosphere.’

‘Ramakrishna, you did not come any higher than this space, but that is only a small world for the All-Source which you are as feeling, life, spirit, personality, light, light, light.’

Is that clear?

Krishnamurti, the most beautiful child in your world.

Tell him that the universe says: ‘Krishnamurti is the most beautiful child, the most beautiful, purest child as man on earth.’

You can accept that from the masters, you can accept that from Christ.

But he does not have any cosmic, any spiritual consciousness, he does not have that.

He knows the human being by his feeling and thinking, which we begin about.

But tell us where your thoughts go, tell us what you long for and ... (inaudible) lie down here naked now and then you will see yourself.

Krishnamurti was not able to do that, nor Socrates, nor Plato.

What did Plato know, what did Socrates know, what did Aristotle know, what did Buddha know about the All-Source, the All-Love, the All-Light, the All-Life, the All-Spirit?

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

You see.

And what are you hearing now this evening?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But that is development, isn’t it, evolution, isn’t it?’

Precisely, so we come before the ...

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘If you had begun during the time of Socrates or Plato, you would perhaps not have been able to talk as you are talking this evening.’

No, mankind could not understand that either then, not understand it at all.

Christ came with divine consciousness.

We write in the book ‘The Peoples of the Earth’, Christ reached the age of thirty-three, but Christ could have reached the age of three hundred thousand.

Christ did not need to die physically again.

Because, why not?

Christ could have, he could have lived eternally on earth.

Why?

(Someone in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘He did not have any karma.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Christ did not have any karma.’

Because He ...?

(Hall): ‘ ... did not have any karma.’

No, yes, no, it is no longer that.

And you?

(Lady in the hall says something.)

I am standing at your feet.

(People talk at the same time.)

Because he could not get any more diseases.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘He could draw from the universe.’

No, no, no, no.

Anything else?

You will soon say again: how can it be!

But you are not thinking.

You read books, but you do not make any comparisons.

You read the bible; now read the bible with regard to ‘The Peoples of the Earth’, and then you can begin.

Take a large bible, so that you do not go blind from that staring, otherwise I would say: do not do it, do not destroy your light, do not weaken your optic nerves, because the bible is not even worth that.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Because He was divinely conscious.’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Because He was divinely conscious.’

He was divinely conscious, but it is not that.

He proved that He could have stayed eternally on earth, if the human being had not murdered Him.

Then He would have brought the divine wisdom to earth and then He would have been eternal, this is what Christ meant and wanted, until the last gasp of the last human, animal-like being which would leave the earth, had been.

You can read that at the end of ‘The Peoples of the Earth’.

Then Christ would still have been on earth and then He would have brought the child to his attunement.

But why ...?

Christ proved that He could do it, but the human being destroyed Him.

What did you say?

(Woman in the hall): ‘Because His body was found.’

But where do you read that in the bible?

I was, André was never able to read the bible.

And why not?

Now you get to see him anyway, because we know the bible, we can immediately separate each word, attune from the divine, true law.

Just say a word.

Which meaning does that word have?

Just mention a word.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Evangelism.’

Evangelism.

What is evangelism?

Then you see the bible, but is that evangelism?

Just mention something from your dictionary.

Isn’t that true?

You and I and everyone lived in the jungle a  hundred million years ago and then we belonged to the first, the very first grade of life and consciousness, material and spiritual.

If you penetrate deep into the jungle, you get cannibals there, even much worse, you get the Papuans there, how do you wish to call them?

We call that the first grade for the human feeling and thinking.

‘Spiritual Gifts’ again.

Now we do not yet need to walk in the universe, we remain on earth.

But from the earth we come to the society which has the white organism.

Yes, that does not mean very much to you.

Because what does it mean?

A black person is walking there and a brown person there, and there is a chid, that is like an ape man (see article ‘Human being or soul’ on rulof.org) there, even worse; but you are here, you are already in a society.

Your faculties mean nothing to me, and the universe also means nothing.

But what are you as feeling?

You understand that sum, you can speak.

No, you got human feeling, you already got to know a Christ.

And he says: do this, do that, then you will experience the laws of My father in harmony, and now you will become the love.

I said that at the beginning of the evening.

But what did you think, what does this mean, that you freed yourself from the jungle, to the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org)?

But that can be experienced in the universe, because there was still no light in the universe when the creations commenced.

You accept that.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Fine.

What is the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) now, this colour?

What now lives in the universe, is consciousness, the sun has become stronger, hasn’t it?

In the beginning of creation there was no light.

Do you accept that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Gradually that condensed, the sun became stronger, stronger, stronger, and the sun came out, just as your eyes came, but we are not talking about that now.

So you got that condensing, that growing, that strengthening of the universal light in the universe as fatherhood, as a white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org).

So consciousness gives you light, illuminating radiance.

So that consciousness of the jungles also makes those tissues, those dark bodies; because consciousness is light and a white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) represents light.

You now also get: South, North, East and West.

Do you understand?

The Oriental child, a brown colour, but a normal body which has reached the sixth and the seventh grade.

So you made that revolution, body after body.

That therefore means that you will soon have those planets in your hands.

You have them here, you are that, you have almost conquered that earth and that took millions of years, no, that took millions of lives, you had to cover millions of lives, but that took billions of years, in order to come from the jungle to the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org), in order to drive you up from the dark to the light.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus?’

Wait a moment.

So now we are in society, you came to the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) and you got inner, outer consciousness, and you represent that.

You just need to walk here.

If the world was now that far ...

What are you actually, what are you doing, may I ask you that?

I can see it, but ...

You are doing nothing, or you are doing something, you are doing something in society; why are you going to work so hard, why do you not go walking over the world?

You do not need to let yourself be beaten here for God and the universe and to start to act like a slave.

Become a loafer.

You represent your own deity anyway, when you just start to speak.

You do not need to do anything, because it is you, you are the God of all life who is walking here, yes, in the human grade.

You are still a human being.

And when you are no longer there, now it will come, when you dissolve materially, I miss something here on earth.

And if a hundred million and so many million go, out of those people, then there will be nothing at all left, sir, then we will stand still and creation will end.

But you are still here, you are in the life on the other side, you are not only material, you are astral, so you have space, you get that infinity in your hands, you explain those systems, no, they live under your heart, that is your blood circulation, your light in your eyes.

You represent your divine life aura.

You represent the primal source as a human being.

Now, you can now also ask: why am I here?

You are the represented deity as a human being and it is called Gerard, Hendrik, Piet or Klaas.

But for God, for the All-Source, for yourself you are that and that grade of consciousness, life, light, creation, giving birth; no more than that.

Still unclear?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

Then I would be sorry.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Thank you, master Zelanus.’

Thank you.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, can you also explain to us ...’

Have another think about it, speak to each other.

This is a good path, you will get a lot of love from it.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Can you explain to us what astral is?’

This.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But we know a form of light, we know a form of life, we know a form of love, you say.

And now also, a life cell is also known to us and we also know an atom, but what is now the third form of this trinity?’

Yes, you will read that in the books.

Do you wish to know what is astral and what is spiritual?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Who talked about this a moment ago?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus.’

No, I was not talking about myself.

Who said something to me there, who was that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘It was me.’

Yes, yes, but here.

That is, the universe spoke to me, interprets, materializes, that consciousness started to think like a human being, we call that a human being, but you are a grade of life.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Do people call that inspiration?’

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you are still just that yourself, you are still just that yourself.

Yes, what is inspiration?

Then you have already ended up in another territory, another law, another space.

But that which is here ...

But you cannot think with your mouth closed and then more will happen than what you speak.

There are people with wonderful gifts; they cannot express themselves.

Why not?

Then they must go to school and then they must start to learn that material seriously, because society demands that.

But you are all universally deep.

And when you do not speak now ...

Yes, you will say: how will you give lectures soon.

But we are no longer talking about that.

Then we go and sit down, eyes closed, like the yogi, the initiated in the East, Buddha.

Should I also go and sit down?

No, I will just not do it.

Can you feel?

What is this?

Just do this.

I want to teach you in one evening, I know seven thousand concepts for Buddha, I am also a Buddhist, I am a Christian Scientist, I am a theosophist, I am a Mohammedan, I am a Catholic, I am a Protestant, I am a Jew.

But what is this?

Just do this sometime.

A friend of André says: I will teach you the concepts – they are not concepts, it is attunement to the universe – I will teach you the concepts of Buddha and then you will immediately go to sleep.

Do you want hypnotism?

Yes ...

He could not do it like that.

And the child was lying sleeping immediately.

Only this.

Just do it sometime, then you will feel the universe.

The divine point, the universe.

Buddha was sitting like that; that is his feelers, if you want to know, straight.

Now the personality is closed off from everything, there is no left, no right anymore, everything is now closed off in him.

And then, every handshake ... this, that, this, here, there, there, that all has meaning.

I close myself off completely now.

Then Buddha  will do that like that ...

And then you should just try it sometime.

Yes, do not try those tricks, because then at the next lecture I will get, then the people will say: that gentleman is making my wife senile.

(There is laughter.)

And then the wife comes home and then the wife says: ‘I learned something this evening.’

But then that gentleman says: ‘Then I will go there quickly in order to take that man away.’

‘Because she does nothing anymore, sir.’

She does nothing anymore, she goes and sits down, because it is a sacred feeling, it is a sacred feeling.

We can more than speak.

It is a sacred feeling if you possess that sensitivity, the feelers, these are feelers.

Buddha always put out his feelers.

And then he took ....

But now, the heart, the soul, the spirit, the personality.

Where does that personality lie now, can you feel?

I had wanted to feel the soul, I wanted to let the life feel, I wanted to let the personality feel.

And then you also get with the fingers, the pressure, which grade of feeling ....

And then I get the answers and the wisdom sent precisely from the third, the fourth sphere or the seventh.

And if I let go of this, that thumb, I get it from the third.

Yes, that was Buddha.

Do you know Buddha?

No one in the world knows Buddha.

Buddha was universally deep, as a human being, he was a yogi.

He knew the life forces from hands, the divine hand.

You see.

The human hand is the feeler for the sun, what the sun has, radiates with light, you can do that with the pressure of your hand.

If you did not have that, then you would be powerless.

What do you still have now?

What do you still want to do in society?

You got this in order to work and to serve, that is radiance, can you feel this?

Everything which got space outwardly, is creating power.

What is a hand?

What do you call this?

Is that neutral, the little hand, or is that a ...

We only know the working of a body.

A body has driving, spatial, telling power, is a part of fatherhood and motherhood.

Can you feel, the human being is becoming different.

Did we already talk about that?

(People in the hall): ‘No.’

No, I have not started yet.

I am still talking around you, I have already given three hundred lectures ...

How many sessions have you had here?

Three hundred and fifty.

He just lets me talk.

Three hundred and fifty, and we have still not started with the lectures.

Can you feel this?

We still have to begin with analyzing those systems.

What is an arm, how did you get an arm, why a leg?

Really, we lived in the waters and the mother was a nymph; she still is.

You see.

When we start to make a journey over the earth, then we experience the waters, we go and sit on mother as a nymph and she takes us through the waters, the oceans, and shows us another paradise.

You would like that.

(To the sound technician): Am I that far?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus?’

I will come to you.

Over there.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus ...’

Think about the time, I am now attuning myself to the time.

(Sound technician): ‘It is nearly time.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘In ‘The Little Johannes’ by Frederik van Eeden several disembodiments of his are described.’

Yes.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘What is the ...’

I know Frederik van Eeden (Dutch writer and psychiatrist, 1860-1932).

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Is it only pure literature or is it experienced by him?’

That is ...

No, no, no.

If you want to know where ...

Yes, you could not see him this evening, you are not so clairvoyant.

The last lecture, not the last one which you had alone, but when we were here before, Frederik van Eeden was sitting here all evening, there, in that corner, because Frederik van Eeden built up ‘Masks and Men’.

Do you see?

He is a follower of mine, he is my pupil, and follows me through everything.

Do you not believe it?

I will show you it soon ‘beyond the coffin’.

He experienced occult laws.

He was a medium in the third grade, but did not make it through.

Can you feel?

But he worked, he felt, he already served for the University of Christ.

Your Frederik van Eeden had the feeling, to give the world happiness by means of ‘The Little Johannes.’

And if you want to compare ‘The Little Johannes’, then just continue; what he describes there in an animal-like way, you will find again there in the mental institution.

Yes, he says, thoughts are universally deep, thoughts are spacious.

You can soon say to a storm: stop!

What did Christ do?

Peter, are you afraid of the waters?

Silence.

You will become that.

Rain, wind, power, energy.

You created the waters.

You, by means of you, and by means of all those other sparks.

Can you feel?

And then you get that the people see: this human being has the power in order to say to all to hurricanes: ‘Stop!’ and ‘Just calm down’?

Yes, indeed.

Suddenly the universe passed over into peace and quiet.

‘And we could continue’, Frederik says.

Yes, from inside.

Can you feel?

Why?

Read ‘Masks and Men.’

When you are afraid and you do not know the law, storm, wind, rain; what does that matter when you die, when that wind knocks you down?

But when you say: ‘You cannot knock me down’, then you are the spatial personality here who says: this far and not any further.

Can you feel this?

You get all of that from those sentences from ‘Masks and Men’, that is Frederik van Eederik.

Frederik van Eederik?

Frederik van Eeden.

He will not get angry there anyway.

(Lady in the hall): ‘If Frederik van Eeden was conscious, how did he come to the Catholic faith at the end of his life?’

I said, he was not conscious; he was for the third grade.

He knew it and he did not know it.

He did not have any consciousness, he had the feeling.

How many millions of people are there not in the world who would want to help mankind to a growth, a new evolution, would want to give their life for that?

You can get my life, you can get the life of André, the blood, that is also possible.

I wanted Christ to – what use is it to us – I wanted Christ to tell us, André, or me, or master Alcar: ‘Now let that instrument just prove what he can do.’

Then we will get the heart from those ribs for you.

Just bring along the knife, nice and sharp, we will twist it out for you.

We want to do that for the Messiah.

Where does that come from?

Nonsense?

To want to die for Christ?

He says: live for Me, pray.

But when it is necessary, then we will be burnt at the stake, we will be hung.

Ho, wonderful, wonderful like that, a rope, a jerk for a moment, a few vibrations ... pphh, into the universe.

My sisters and brothers, I think that it is time.

Do you have anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, I ...’

I am talking away André’s cold this evening, I am doing that by means of fun, by means of feeling, being enthusiastic, I am putting new energy into him.

I am close to you.

What is, Frederik says, being close by and staying far away?

Isn’t it true?

What is being close by and staying far away?

I am close to you and you can find me in thousands and thousands of personalities in the universe, just everywhere where you are, you will see me there.

That is the being close to you and yet staying far away, the cosmic consciousness.

Then you have everything, there is nothing else which you do not know.

You do not need to know everything, you have nothing to do with the thoughts and the feelings, the thinking, of your chaos, society.

You think, but a cosmic conscious being knows everything.

Why must a cosmic conscious being tune into the destruction of your society?

Christ said: ‘Just hit Me.’

If Christ had done that, the whole Jewish race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org), Pilate and everything, would have been destroyed, they would have dissolved, if He had just come like that; but then He would have been angry too.

Christ came from the divine harmony, he did not know any anger and any feeling in him: I will destroy those children one day.

He came with love.

Become love and you will be Christ in that and that grade of feeling, thinking, consciousness and acting.

Anything else?

What will you give for this consciousness, and I will sell myself.

Consciousness is feeling, consciousness is life, is being a mother, being a father.

Get this picture.

When you are soon in the universe, ‘beyond the coffin’, and you will have your mother, that is your wife, that is your husband; good, you are together, you have each other, then he goes before you, it is he, he looks, and you will receive what he sees, you will get that under your heart.

He kisses the universe and you feel the kiss on your lips.

Yes, what do you give each other in human love?

Now give each other a universal love.

When does the life of feeling of the mother speak spatially?

A human being says: I do not want this, he will also remain completely with both legs, with the whole personality on earth.

And that love is earthly, that kiss is Catholic or Protestant, that kiss is Mohammedan, or it is a little thing from Allah.

But now a universal, spatial, cosmic kiss from the father to the mother, that is unity.

And then, if you lose yourself in there, mother, then you will really experience that one wonderful, but true paradise, in which the true Adam and Eve live.

And those two do not have a snake in their midst, because they have life wisdom.

They no longer believe, they know.

I thank you.

(Hall): ‘Thank you, master Zelanus.’

I am suddenly putting an end to it.

You see, this was too harsh again.

See you next week.