Good evening, my sisters and brothers.

(Hall): ‘Good evening, master Zelanus.’

Which of you has their question ready?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, can suicide still be karma?’

Can suicide be karma?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, if it is committed under the influence of the astral ...’

So by the devils?

No.

Various murders are committed on earth by the human being.

There are even people ... who say.

You have probably heard that, when the judge is busy, and the man or the woman says: ‘Yes, I do not know it!’

People do not believe that either.

But in this age ...

The psychiatrists, the psychologists take influence into account.

Even if people do not know that influence, then people must still accept that this human being is not responsible, people say now, for the crime.

Is it clear?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

And in this way millions of people were killed, because the human being is open to murder.

So you have to answer for that anyway.

Is it clear?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, if a magnetizer treats a patient and after a short time he takes over that disease of that patient, and then he gets the same symptoms, should he continue then or should he stop then?’

If André had to make his diagnosis through master Alcar, he would irrevocably take over that disease.

People call that psychometrics, but it is being one with the disease, for the healer.

But if you are not capable of removing that disease, which you now take over, in only five minutes, then you are not suitable, not conscious for helping the human being.

If we got from a card, your postcard ...

You wrote, you write that card, and say – we experienced that, André experienced that -: ‘Will you please come to Geneva.

I read your books in Indonesia.

You can help me.’

This question is on that card.

And that card went through hundreds of hands and was influenced by all those other letters, wasn’t it?

But the medium, the healer, infallibly gets, here immediately, in only a few seconds, a tumour, like that, which exhausts the organism; visible, it can be seen immediately.

And then master Alcar said to André: ‘Now that we already experience the diagnosis, will you still have the pleasure of going to Geneva?’

Because André could have taken an aeroplane.

He could have taken his wife with him.

He could have stayed a fortnight there.

He says: ‘Write to that lady that she must quite definitely have an operation.’

You have also read it in one of the books; the proof.

There are hundreds like that.

We did not go.

But within a second this tumour of hers had condensed in our organism.

These are the laws of the universe.

That sensitivity of the human being goes that far that you can also experience God, and Christ, at this moment.

Do you believe that?

Irrevocable truth.

But if a magnetizer has that sensitivity and that thinking ...

If you start to heal, that is a school of five years, only to know: how must you think for that?

But within one minute, one second the tumour was gone again, when this contact of the master to the instrument and the patient was broken.

Can you feel this?

If you cannot experience this, you must quite definitely stop, because you will gradually get, by absorption of that aura you will get to experience one misery after another.

And that does not need to happen yet, but later, when your organism weakens.

And then you will wonder: how did I get these diseases?

And then it is truth, then you have to do with those diseases, of the human being.

Just read ‘Spiritual Gifts’.

And if a magnetizer connects and can experience that, then you will see the reality of our books.

A dog, and a cat, I wrote, have that sensitivity.

Why not the human being?

Everyone, every human being is a healer.

But just do not try it, because you do not know those laws, not for the body, not for the spirit and not for the universe either.

Because you are, if you really heal, spatially connected.

How did Christ heal?

Do you understand?

(To the hall): Which of you?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, it says in ‘Masks and Men’ that a master of Vincent van Gogh ... in his suicide attempt ...

Does he experience that process now ... as an artist, for that five percent ...’

You ask me, Vincent van Gogh ...

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... committed suicide ...’

... committed suicide.

At five percent?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... as an artist ...’

For the art?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, as an artist.’

Do you see?

You can commit suicide.

If Vincent van Gogh ...

I explained that to you here once, and then ... by means of which we can lay new foundations.

You asked me, by means of ‘The Cycle of the Soul’ ...

And I also write that: you only commit suicide once.

I did not add: for other states, for philosophical systems, for a task.

You are now a painter and now you begin to become Beethoven, Bach or Mozart in a life, and you do not achieve it now ...

Of course not, because you need thirty, forty lives for that, in order to reach Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, to become Titiaan, Rembrandt, Van Dyck, and so on.

Those souls, those beings, built up those personalities for that.

Is it clear?

So you commit suicide for a task.

You want to achieve something and you do not achieve it.

You are disappointed and you say ...

You go to Monte Carlo, you go to play somewhere; you already commit suicide for your money, for the misery which comes.

And for study.

You commit suicide because you do not even want to experience motherhood.

You commit suicide for hundreds of thousands of tasks, because every other thought has universal divine meaning.

And you dissolve of course on that cosmic path, and you take your revolver again.

Although something remains behind of your life of feeling.

Because that sinking away and that falling down and that suddenly being ripped from the organism, gives you feeling.

But you still have something of those feelings left, what did I just say?

For that matter, I said: it is of some use to you, you learn something from it.

Do you learn from it?

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

You have had hundreds of thousands of lives as mother; can you still experience them, in this organism?

So you can consciously attune yourself to motherhood.

You carry your child.

Can the man do that?

And yet that should be possible, shouldn’t it?

Therefore so deeply – I present you with that question – the one from that suicide sinks away so deeply to your subconscious, to that chaos, and dissolves.

And he must return a hundred percent, at full power, and then it is experiencing sorrow and then it is undergoing torture in your spirit, for your life of feeling, by means of which you succumb again of course.

And then that little revolver comes.

So you can ...

I should have analyzed all your lives from ‘The Cycle of the Soul’ and then you will get to see the universal suicide.

This was only one state, of myself.

But if I want now ...

I want to be a professor, be a theologian, and I want to be this and to be that, all the things the earth possesses, and you absolutely persevere with that ...

You saw it with Vincent van Gogh, and many more went like that: the honest artist must succumb, must irrevocably succumb.

And then he stands before ...

Before what?

Before his own halt to feelings, his inner life, and he cannot continue.

If you wish to continue, then you will irrevocably succumb.

So you exhaust your feeling, your personality, by means of arts and sciences, your task, completely, at a hundred percent, and it is only then – you will read that again in ‘Spiritual Gifts’, this is why those books are so wonderful – that the divine or spatial, spiritual inspiration comes, someone else from that life, from that universe, who can inspire you, and help you then; and it is only then that you get art and sciences.

But if you no longer have any feeling, this means for the inspiration, doesn’t it, the spiritual feeling: this far and not any further.

If I was to make you all cosmically conscious this evening, suddenly, and you wanted to experience that ...

You followed a beautiful, a wonderful study; if I had not been with you, then you would still be in that mental institution.

I got you out of there again.

I.

But the teachings, experienced and received by means of this, are the feeling: now I understand André-Dectar.

Now I understand wat is needed in order to deal with all of this.

And just get hold of ‘Jeus III’.

(To someone in the hall): What did you say?

(Someone in the hall): ‘Wonderful.’

Wonderful?

... it is to experience, the battle, the giving, the serving; that universal macrocosmic love of Jeus.

That is his feeling.

Did you get a beautiful experience?

I wish I could ...

I can bring you to the spiritual conscious grade in one evening.

And then I will first drive you insane.

Then you will all behave completely insane.

But then we descend and we lose this, this.

Because your day conscious thinking – you got a great deal – means nothing, nothing, nothing for society, if you do not know the spiritual laws.

You got foundations; so I can no longer drive you insane, because you say yourself: that is not possible!

You do not become insane through sorrow because you will soon have to lose your loved one, because death is a reunion on the other side.

But the other human being goes to a psychiatric institution, because of grief and sorrow, because husband and wife have passed over.

You no longer break.

You cannot be broken anymore.

You cannot collapse anymore.

Because your personality lays foundations for growth.

I can therefore no longer let you experience that psychopathic grade of life, because I myself have laid those hundreds of foundations – and the books which you have read – for growth, thinking, feeling, acting, haven’t I?

And this is universal possession.

But if you want to act like Frederik, isn’t it true, then we will reach the spiritual laws.

You must experience them.

Now you must be able to experience death.

To go to sleep and remain awake.

This is everything here.

We are awake, we talk, the eyes are open, and yet André is asleep.

Which person in the world, which of the academics will be able to accept this for the West?

Look through this phenomenon, look through Jeus, and you will stand consciously beyond your ‘coffin.’

Satisfied?

Which of you?

Do not look at each other now, who wants to ask questions.

Ask questions yourself.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, master Zelanus.

Where and how does the human being get command of his senses?’

Where and how does the human being get command of his senses?

There are people amongst you who already know that.

Ask your professor sometime, the physicist, your psychologist, your philosopher, your astronomer, your biologist, your geologist, your theologian.

Where, people, where does the human being get his senses?

Where?

My elders?

(Lady in the hall): ‘In the waters.’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘In the waters.’

In the waters.

(Lady in the hall): ‘On the moon.’

In the very first cell existence, on the moon.

Not on earth.

Because the earth had already got consciousness by sun and moon and the other universal systems.

But in those waters, in the seventh grade – in the seventh grade, so the seventh birth – the embryonic life began as a cell, as a soul, as a spirit of God with the growth.

From what?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘From the material.’

Of course, that came afterwards.

From what?

I will help you a bit, but you will still not have worked it out.

When you ...

I will give you a divine gift this evening.

If you think well and you can really ... (inaudible) for your fellow being, and the human being starts to say: ‘What a good person that is, I like to talk so much with this man and that woman’, if you start to love everything, then we can soon take you along, and then we will experience those first grades again on the moon.

But also on the earth.

For all the planets which live, have produced lives, organisms.

But where is it born now?

In the very first grades.

First there was a contact for motherhood, motherhood, motherhood.

But that is the cosmology.

The books were experienced and written.

Then for the first time, when motherhood had condensed and those divisions for the cell life, the embryonic existence continued, we descended, master Alcar, André and I, into the new wonder.

And then you get to know your soul.

We reached unity in an embryonic cell and remained conscious, and then master Alcar said: ‘André, you will get the word.

You will answer us.’

And from the universe, from the All-Consciousness the feeling and the word came, and that said: ‘Can you feel me?’

And then something happened.

By what means?

What is the human eye now?

The senses, the smell, the taste ...

What does your taste mean?

Your nasal organ?

They are feelers of God.

God has all those characteristics, condensed and spiritualized and materialized by the macrocosmos.

But the All-Source, the All-Power in that cell manifested itself outwards now for the first time, and your inside inspired the outside; we experienced that, every law, every hour, every second.

We remained one with that cell until it happened, gradually building up again, new life, further again, further again, further again.

And after the sixth, and between the seventh grade, then the growth comes.

Then that embryo is mature for nature.

Then the child is born in the mother, that is the maturity, the adult stage, the growth process, the condensing, the spiritualization takes place, and something here in this outer invention ripped apart.

No, our inner life started to inspire the outer, and then something broke through.

And we saw, through that tissue, the outer glow, the outer life, and we got, so from the All-Source as soul, the light in our eyes.

Because you see ...

And that is the truth.

This is a book.

These are fifty pages in the cosmology.

That means, and it is very simple, because the pieces of proof are there ...

Now you can say: how that man is standing talking again this evening.

What nonsense and what gibberish.

But I will immediately checkmate you, because: by what means do you see?

Not by means of those eyes, that is just a side issue.

But you see inwardly.

If you go from the body, the eye is immediately dead, isn’t it?

So your feeling, the spirit, the soul sees.

That All-Stage lives in you and that looks outside the organism.

The soul is the All-Soul in the human being, the All-Life, and by means of the life you have the working.

By means of the feeling you have an expression.

The life of feeling is the outward working of the inner human being.

You act by means of your feeling.

But you look by means of your All-Soul, as direct attunement, and is therefore – the world willingly admits that – a divine gift, isn’t it?

But it is the All-Attunement, for your life, in order to look, in order to see.

But that same working, we can now follow and analyze from grade to grade, hour to hour, how that originated.

Who can do that here?

Do you see?

And then you can soon experience all of that if you love the life.

No you do not love.

You hit, you kick.

Then you learn something at least.

Analyzing cosmology, analyzing the planets, is very nice, but what do you learn from this?

If you do not possess any feeling and any love, are harsh, hit, kick, snarl, snap, lie and deceive, with all this knowledge and all that reading and all those lectures – the Christ said that anyway – then all this wisdom is no use to you and we cannot connect you.

And why not?

Now why not?

(Various people react.)

Because you do not have that sensitivity.

You were close by, but it is not it.

Do you see?

Thinking, thinking, thinking.

Who knows it now?

(People talk at the same time.)

Not all at the same time.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Because you have an own  will.’

Because you have an own will?

But it is not that either.

(People talk at the same time.)

And it is not that either.

And now what?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The contact, the soul has gone.’

The contact, the soul has gone.

(People talk at the same time.)

(Someone says): ‘The reflection of the soul has gone.’

The reflection.

You will not get to the bottom of it.

You must learn to think universally spiritually.

What was I actually talking about?

Do you still know it?

You see, everything has gone. (laughter)

What was I talking about?

What did I want to explain to you?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘How we see.’

Do you see?

Everything has gone.

(People talk at the same time.)

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... by hitting and kicking ...’

Do you see?

Now you get it back.

But you must remember it.

You must remember all of that inwardly.

And every word and every explanation and every world and every universe ...

If you just think and only just remember Christ ...

If you are not in harmony with your All-Soul, your All-Light in you, then you have darkened yourself as personality for that All-Light, and we cannot bring you and connect you with the divine light in you.

(Lady in the hall says something.)

Is there not a little bridge, did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Then there is no longer a sounding board.

Then what you say does not resonate in my soul.’

Whether there is not a sounding board.

(Lady in the hall): ‘No.

What you say, will not resonate in my soul then ... (inaudible).’

No, we do not mean that.

So if you hit, kick, hate, Jeus will say, if you are cruel, impudent, then you are out of the divine light.

Because in that embryonic life you must be in harmony with the light of the All-God, the light, the life of the All-God.

You must have the harmony for His life of feeling, His personality, His fatherhood and motherhood and all His millions of other character traits, it is only then that we can connect you with the cell life and the descending now into the mother and that you will experience the cosmology.

Do you still have little lies and deceptions, little hatreds, little jealousies?

The human being learns, the human being wants to grow, but please begin with the little things, and be kind, thoughtful with your words, with your actions.

For goodness sake say very little, because you will soon have to take back again everything which you say.

Because you rave, you gossip, you talk nonsense, you just repeat words.

The human being who talks a lot, is not capable of thinking.

Is that not true?

But you talk far too much.

You talk far too much, because you have not begun yet with spiritual universal, divine thinking.

Difficult?

Is it so difficult to be in harmony with your society, to not steal and to not deceive?

Is that difficult?

(Lady in the hall): ‘No.’

No, you say.

Are you already there?

Is it difficult to be warm-hearted with regard to the human being?

The gentleman to the lady, yes, indeed.

We were like that, after all.

We go back into our animal-like existence.

You are probably surprised that we are so close to you.

I can come much closer to your life, but then we will be too familiar again.

And then master Zelanus will soon be sitting at that piano.

You will sit down here.

But after all, we were animal-like, pre-animal-like.

We lived in the jungle, all of us, the angels, everyone.

There is no master in the cosmos who did not take part in cannibalism.

We know that.

We sold and squandered ourselves.

There were still no prisons.

Yes, indeed, I experienced it.

They locked us up there on that island of death, with the weights, the hour works at our feet.

And then we walked like that.

Do you want to see that drama, which I described there?

That the blood ran from our bones because of the whippings?

The beating on our backs, because we refused to accept that brutality, that butchering.

And we cut our throats, we hung ourselves and it was over.

We murdered, committed arson, stole.

There is not one angel in the heavens who was not rotting bad on earth.

If you just make a little mistake ...

When the Christ came to earth and the criminal stood before Him, He said: ‘You are not a criminal.

Everything which you have done, I absorb into myself.’

And then people said: ‘That is God himself.’

If the human being really wants to learn something, we can explain those problems spiritually to you, then for goodness sake just begin by never looking at the human being again who does something wrong.

Because it is you yourself.

If you still see that and it is done to you – yes, indeed, you are in society – and you feel that beating and you go and tell it to other people again, you are busy yourself darkening your beautiful beaten life, because now you become gossip.

Because you do not get to experience a beating, if you have not laid your foundations for that yourself.

There is not a hair on your head which can be hurt, if you are free from sins and faults.

‘Now just cast stones’, Christ said.

‘Which one of you wants to throw it?’

No one.

And then He wrote in the sand: ‘Hypocrites, cheats, murderers, arsonists, go away.’

And Christ continued.

Happened.

This happened.

(To the hall): Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, if you as a cosmic conscious being, and Jozef and master Alcar ... we read in ‘Jeus III’ that ... that the moon came from the heaven as it were.

Now I want to know from you ... is that now because of the concentration ...’

This is being one with Mother Nature, with everything.

We will get your needle from the sea of life infallibly.

If you let a needle drop into the middle of the ocean, then we can find that needle from the sea again, if it has to do with the human being.

Can you feel this?

If now, for example, you would wish to say ...

Somewhere on earth someone is ... and lay down a louse from the human being: get that out ...

That is something else again.

We mean, if you have attunement with God ...

We will find everything again which has to do with God and belongs to His life, to His spirit, to His soul, to His light, to His fatherhood and motherhood.

But we are not talking about that needle of yours.

If possible, if that needle is pricked into your organism and you are in pain because of it, then we will find that needle again.

But, you will feel, that needle, we take a packet of needles and throw that into the ocean, and that sinks down some ten, twenty thousand metres, then we have no contact with that packet of needles.

But it concerns the life.

If you had that in your hands and you influenced those needles, then it will be possible again.

But you must always follow and experience it spiritually.

You must always take this back to the human being.

Look, this is the intention.

You have read in ‘Jeus’, in ‘A View into the Hereafter’ that André ...

Someone sends André a tie, a bow-tie.

And that daughter of that father asks: ‘Just tell me what happened.

That bow-tie is my fathers’.’

And during that time we did that.

André takes that bow-tie in his hands – exactly the same thing as that card, that writing of that mother from Geneva – he takes that bow-tie in his hands and goes into trance immediately.

Master Alcar lets him disembody.

He cannot do that under his own power, because that gift is still the possession of his master.

If I did not come, Jozef could still tell you a great deal.

You can do that too.

But if we speak in this state, and he would do that – we therefore speak from the unity with the cosmos; I will soon explain that to you – then he would hit the ground here and he would fall unconscious before your eyes.

This is why we must experience his organism here and in The Hague.

He has his own evening, that is something else again.

But in Diligentia and here we speak, we must experience his organism; he must go out of it, and we speak by means of these systems.

But that aura on that bow-tie of that man is in it.

Your clothes are influenced by your spirit, by your feeling.

And that aura brought us infallibly to the Rhine.

‘You see’, master Alcar says, ‘the aura takes us, brings us to the Rhine.’

And then André went into that, he also says: ‘I have the same feeling as if I am walking in the waters, in the sea, consciously as a human being.’

Then you are gasping for breath.

And that same feeling, you do not experience that physically.

If you now go and bath in the cold, you get a fright.

Is that a physical fright which you feel, or is that spiritual?

You must feel and experience that spiritually.

And so André experiences the same thing quite definitely spiritually.

He says ... (Takes one breath after the other.) ‘Just come under here’, master Alcar says, ‘nothing else will happen.’

And then master Alcar could follow that aura by means of his ...

What did I just say?

By what means?

By means of his light.

Not by means of his feeling, but by means of his light, his aura, his seeing.

Is it clear?

The feeling is there, that is the source.

But that source has consciousness.

So by means of his feeling, by means of his light, by means of his consciousness, he sees underwater, because that water is dark.

And then suddenly ....

The fish swim through your hands, you go through that.

André gets them, wants to catch them like that, hold them, but he goes through them.

You go through them.

Amazing if you should experience that sometime as Frederik.

If you experience those laws, then you are in spiritual infinity.

This instrument had to experience millions, millions, millions, millions of such things, through the books, through the masters and had to deal with them here on earth.

Do you have a difficult time here?

That still all means nothing to us.

If you are not spiritually broken, if you do not succumb spiritually, the earthly misery means nothing to us.

‘If you still do not succumb’, Jeus used to say, ‘if you still do not weep until your tears run dry’, it says in ‘Jeus’, ‘you are still yourself.’

Isn’t that true?

‘The human being’ Jeus says, ‘cannot even weep until his tears run dry.’

‘And mother has taken me for a ride.

Because that was not real there, when the Tall Hendrik was buried.

Because otherwise she should have wept herself to death.

But she is still alive’, Jeus said.

And that is the truth.

But when we ...

I followed all of that, even if André did not yet know me.

We went along.

I was there in order to watch over his organism.

I am that beautiful Adonis.

Am I beautiful?

But master Alcar said: an Adonis watched over his organism.

I do not know how beautiful I am.

Then master Alcar could descend with him and he finally sees a shadow there in the waters, in the light of the master, and floats there, the human being who had murdered himself floats there.

Do you know what else there was there?

We did not record that.

But do you want to know the truth this evening?

Master Alcar did not do that for those children on earth.

Or they would have read later: dad had drunk too many spirits and walked into the Rhine.

But it does not say that in that book.

Wrong?

Because he had too much of a good thing, he walked into the waters, and drowned.

You experienced that problem.

André says: he is there, and now he is here, and a wave took him there.

So we had to fish him out of that water.

We are fishing for a human being.

‘No’, master Alcar says, ‘just wait, because he will soon come there, a few hundred kilometres further, and then you will find your father there.’

It happened.

André later heard: ‘Yes, they got my father out of the water this morning at the place which you determined.

He therefore drowned.’

Infallible, by means of that aura, we determined, the masters, that that father had had an accident.

Didn’t he?

‘But’, the daughter said, ‘you see, because he had an accident.

But you did not get him out of the water anyway.’

That was the thanks for the knowledge.

And then suddenly André knew it.

He says: ‘I do not wish to see such things again.’

And from that moment master Alcar said: ‘Now you will get full marks from the masters.’

And we never began with it again either; they are ...

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ... before swine.’

Thank you.

But now that analysis.

If you really come to stand before these things, before these laws, then you will feel that there is a natural contact, natural unity to be experienced – now it will come – and we go to the philosophical systems.

Now everything becomes, this evening everything becomes divine philosophy.

I will also send it as much as possible, if you like that, because you learn from this, as much as possible to the divine philosophy, so that you will learn.

Because these feelings, this contact is only possible because you connect yourself by means of your consciousness with the aura of another life, and you draw that of your own accord to that life.

Isn’t it simple?

And that can only be experienced and obtained if you want to finish your life well, nicely, harmonically.

It is much better for you to be beaten and kicked, deformed ...

If your husband deceives you, just let him, there will come a time when you can say: now that life died in me.

Do not hit back.

Continue to love.

One wrong thought from you attuned to that life and you devote your whole sacred spiritual spatial possession again because of that hitting and kicking, and you are back in the previous one again.

Is that not simple?

So the philosophical systems demand and force you to give love.

And is that so improbable, if you accept the Christ and follow Him and want to experience Him?

Is it not simple?

Anything else?

We will be thinking about you.

Which of you?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘What do you conceive as love?’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘What do you conceive as love?’

I said so a moment ago.

If you experience your life in harmony according to the laws of life of God.

Is that clear?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘So that just remains a surrogate.’

A surrogate.

What do you mean by that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The human being.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The human being on earth.’

For the human being ...

(Gentleman in the hall says something)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I said, that is just relative.

One human being is like the other.’

Why?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘That boundaries are set.’

Is the boundary ...

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... are set, yes.’

For what?

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

No, that has nothing to do with it.

If you – I say that anyway, it is just very simple for the human being to understand – if you follow the Christ, that is the example for the human being, you are there anyway.

Then that is definitely and most certainly not a surrogate.

After all then you have to accept, to experience, to spiritualize and to materialize His word, His life, His spirit, every action of His – we have to do that.

What are the deeds of the human being like now?

Do you understand this?

Are we finished?

Thank you.

You cannot avoid it.

It can be explained in only a few words, because it is He, it was He, but it is also He.

By means of His laws, His gospel.

People put so much on Christ’s lips which is now in conflict with the divine reality.

Do you know that too?

Do you see?

Then we stand before the human surrogate, the shadow of the Messiah, from which the theologian made darkness.

Is that not clear?

People stand before damnation.

People say to the Christ: ‘You will make our sins disappear.’

The Christ was murdered in Jerusalem, and now the human being also wants Him to justify that murder.

Christ also does that.

He says: ‘You did not beat, deform, kill me, but yourself.’

Is that not true?

This is the philosophy for the Christ, for yourself.

People made the Christ human.

The jurisprudence of the Messiah can now be experienced by your judge.

And then that human being places his hand on the bible and says: ‘I will tell the truth, so help me God.’

But he does not know himself.

And the bible begins with untruth.

Do you also accept that?

Do you not accept that?

Do you see?

Now we can continue, but that is not the intention.

If you read ‘The Peoples of the Earth’ and ‘The Origin of the Universe’, but ‘The Peoples of the Earth’ ...

The theologian knows at the moment that the human being was born in the waters.

The biologist, the astronomer can explain that to him, those foundations have only been scientifically laid recently now, for this moment.

But the theologian may not and cannot speak now.

You must remain stupid, the conscious of spirit says.

And Christ brought divine wisdom, but that, as the bible writers analyzed this, has been brought back, taken back to society, to the human thinking and feeling.

And now here we are.

What is now true from that?

The paradise ...

The God who took a rib from Adam in order to create Eve, while the human being began as embryonic life in the waters.

Do you see?

Now we start to think.

What must the human being still learn?

What will the human being get in the future?

The metaphysical reality for and by God, for His soul, His spirit, His light, His life, His fatherhood and motherhood.

And that is experiencing the divine reality, the being one with God, by laying down the wrong next to you by means of your thinking, and to be in harmony with your life of every day, for your fatherhood, motherhood, being a sister, being a brother.

And no one can reach you yet, because you are now assured the divine truth.

Is that not simple?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But do you wish to set aside that bible, master Zelanus?’

No, certainly not.

We lay the divine foundation to replace what was explained wrongly up until now by the theologian.

Because we say anyway: when the bible began, creation was already millions of years old.

So we immediately lay your new, spiritual, spatial, divine foundation for that.

We do not deny the human being anything.

Because that would not be possible, or you would get a chaos.

And you can, if you feel, you can follow and analyze scientifically this speaking, for yourself, for your task, your society, your love.

You no longer come here from dry land into the ditch, on the contrary, we lay a bridge for the next step.

Just listen.

And otherwise take those twenty books, which you can now already read.

And when you have finished reading them, you will get that path.

And then you will get spiritual spatial thinking.

And it is only then that you will be capable of accepting and absorbing, the whole analysis for the bible.

It is a human history, through which Christ walks.

Isn’t it?

There is no more to it.

And because of this the human being experiences his wonders, his reality, his comparisons, and after this and behind this the divine love.

Because every word from Him was and is love, harmony, justice, devotion to duty, honesty, loving, politeness, and so on.

Isn’t it?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, this is why my first question was: the way to that love, there is not such an immediate simple answer to that.’

It is not so simple either.

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

You see.

But it is ...

But it concerns questions and answers here.

I cannot start to write a book for that question this evening.

But if you think through, you will get, and we must immediately point you to Golgotha, to the Messiah in the human being, for his light, his life, his fatherhood, his motherhood, his reincarnation.

Can you feel this?

Now you already get cosmic growth.

Is it clear?

Thank you.

(To the hall): Which one of you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus?’

What is there?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, does psychopathy only belong to a young soul?’

Does psychopathy only belong to a ...?

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ... a young soul?’

A young soul.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, this soul is still young and inexperienced.’

Really young ...

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, I mean ...’

You mean, a real young soul?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Yes.

But they do not exist.

There are no real young souls now in this universe, for the present stage.

When we experienced the unity in the embryonic life, the human soul was still young.

Wasn’t it?

For the human being.

But God was already there eternally.

But ...

If you want to see it like that.

For the human being on earth, for society there is no longer any young life.

A child, for the universe, does not exist.

Isn’t that terrible?

Children do not exist, are not there either.

Although master Alcar took André to the child sphere.

But in only a few seconds, minutes, hours, for the earthly weeks, months, that child grows up, the spirit dissolves; we gave you that and explained that again by means of the other books, ‘A View into the Hereafter’, ‘The Cycle of the Soul’, ‘Between Life and Death’.

The personality rises back to the previous becoming conscious.

You can no longer lay down or lose your adult stage as a human being.

The child in the mother, as embryonic life, is millions, millions of ages old.

Science still has to learn and to accept that.

The psychologist still has to learn and to accept that.

So the question of yours, can a young soul soon be influenced?,

This question does not connect me with anything.

But the soul itself in the human being can be influenced, and then we speak and we only just stand before the sensitivity of the human being; can the human being be influenced, yes or no.

Is it clear?

Anything else?

So just put aside that young soul life, or you will not get any growth.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, at the previous lecture in The Hague you told us that André went along to the Divine All ...

But I thought that you once said that you yourself finally in the Divine All ...’

As André-Dectar, Jeus of mother Crisje?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

He later became André-Dectar.

Didn’t he?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

If he had not fought in order to experience that Divine All, in order to begin with the cosmology, neither master Alcar nor I would have seen and been able to experience the Divine All.

There is not one master – you must listen carefully, and we can explain that to you, and that is very simple – there is not one master in all the spheres, there are millions of them, who has seen the Divine All.

They know it, what it is like, but there are none who go there.

Because at the moment you must, if you come to the other side, you must accept your divine consciousness.

That is now still human.

But if you have to complete a task, here ...

And now it will come, what Jeus already saw as a child, by means of which he saw and devoted all of himself, with the help of his master, that this task rises above the human, goes further and deeper than the Spheres of Light, the macrocosmos.

This task ...

He already knew that in 1935, when he said to Adolf Hitler: ‘You are the evil and I am fighting for the good.

I am the only human being in this world who knows that you will soon begin with a new war.

I am that, because I represent the good.’

Don’t you find that impudent?

But it has been proved.

It has been proved.

We gave those pieces of proof.

So when your task for human thinking and feeling comes – if you listen carefully – then it must actually ...

It is already a wonder that we can materialize our spirit, that we can find the words in order to make you understand that.

But if you feel carefully, then we are divinely one during these evenings.

You can get a divine answer from the masters, by means of the instrument André-Dectar and Jeus.

And that has not been experienced before on earth.

There are some, most certainly, who can speak and think cosmically, we are most certainly not the only ones.

And you also get help.

But the direct divine core, you will have to earn that.

And the whole macrocosmos stands next to you, in you, and takes you, leads you, sends you, drives you, inspires you.

Jeus built that up for himself and for you by means of an awe-inspiring battle, suffering, sorrow, pain.

And mankind will have to accept that one day.

Well?

Anything else?

(Someone in the hall says something.)

Have you finished ‘Jeus III’?

Do you also like radishes?

With dry bread ...

What do radishes, and dry bread, mean if you are fighting for divine wisdom?

After all, Jeus could do it.

In Egypt we did not want to eat for months and months in order to let ourselves be fed spiritually and physically by the universe.

What does it mean?

But when Jeus had nothing left ...

Jeus had money first, he earned a lot of money and went out and had a nice time.

Why not?

Master Alcar thought: just lark about, Jeus.

And Jeus went out with Bernard.

But when the time came, Jeus had nothing left.

And then Jeus was clay and was in the hands of the masters.

Because if Jeus had had hundreds of thousands during that and that time, then master Alcar would have been able to do little with him, because then life would be good and true.

But Jeus would and had to earn everything for the earth.

Lose everything, it is only then that you will get the spiritual.

That does not mean that you must give away your possessions.

We also teach you that.

You can be completely rich on earth.

Because God created a paradise, a kingdom for His life.

Because you are God yourself.

God meant it well for himself.

Because we are gods.

Who believes that?

And that can all be analyzed and explained.

God is sitting here and is listening to me.

Because you are divine sparks in a human conscious and unconscious state.

Do you see?

And the deity in you is busy awakening.

You can be rich, I said, you can possess a paradise, a kingdom, if you do not go under with your possessions.

Because if you possess riches, you will also have to do something with those means.

Or did you think that you did not have a hereafter?

If you do not have too much and you make it anyway by struggling, and you can awaken like that, then just be pleased and happy.

Because if you were to come this evening at this present time and you had twenty-five million ...

Which of you would be able to say: I am not making any mistakes?

I think that you would be bursting with happiness.

And now you start to ask about all the things which can be bought in the world.

A trip to America or Indonesia.

You will want to get a bit of enjoyment from that beautiful which the God of all life has created for your life and personality, won’t you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I would give half to Jeus.’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I would give half to Jeus.’

(Another lady in the hall): ‘I would give him everything.’

Give Jeus everything?

(There is laughter.)

And keep nothing for yourself?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I said half, but she said ...’

So we are already that far, that you would want to give yourself and your possessions to Jeus?

Do you really mean that now?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, indeed.’

(People talk at the same time.)

You do not have it.

(There is warm laughter.)

We have still not met the material millionaires.

When Mary Baker Eddy began in America and the human being shouted at her that she was a filthy slut, that life did not give up anyway.

She continued.

And you see now, in every city on earth you see a church from this child.

She got millions, billions.

For what?

For bibles, Protestant thinking and feeling, straight from the earth to God.

But she did not know it.

She says ...

So the Catholic faith, the Protestant faith and the feeling for that child, that human being, is exactly the same as Christian Science.

But she says: ‘God can do everything.’

And we must, Jeus, André must be open to her. When that child came from the Spheres of Light and asked the masters ...

Because she really did good, master Alcar could receive her thoughts and say: ‘André, be open, because here is a child of the earth, who wants to give a note to her followers.’

And then Mary Baker Eddy wrote, that child from America, from the other side, a note to her followers: ‘First go to your doctor when you have broken your hand, your arm, your leg.

Because that cannot be healed by your prayer, you need a doctor for that.’

She could not reach anyone in America, we write, and André, and Jeus, saw that again.

And hundreds of thousands of mediums live there, but there was not one open to her, she could not reach one of them.

And why not?

Do you see?

We rise out above that thinking and feeling.

But she got the billions.

What would André-Dectar as the instrument of the masters do with your million?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Publish books.’

Publish books.

Always just publish books.

If you were to say now this evening to André: ‘Here are five thousand guilders for you, or ten thousand guilders’, then he would probably say: ‘No.’

Do you not find that strange?

The masters think: first for yourself.

If you prepare for yourself and really prove what you want, and have already built up your taking care of yourself, then the other side says and the masters say: ‘Just come, because after all, ultimately, you also have a hereafter.’

And you will have to begin exactly like that, in order to exhaust yourself, in order to give the life of God that power of spirit, that becoming conscious, that evolution process, and that really cannot be paid for with your earthly gold.

But first take care of your social wellbeing, your food and drink.

And if you have really prepared that consciously for your life, then I would like to say to you and want to call to you: ‘Give the Christ some orchids from the ones you have to spare.

Not us, but Him.’

If you see what kind of blood is lying there (on the book table), if you can understand how much blood is lying there on that table, then every evening you would ...

I do not want to inspire you. So that Jozef, and that Viennese girl, can later say: we just sold twenty books again this evening.

I would like to sell the books there for you one evening.

Will we put the light on and sell them all now?

Then I will not do that for myself, not for the masters, but for your wellbeing.

What do those flowers cost which you bought there?

What do you think?

What did the flowers cost recently which you gave me here, which we earned honestly?

On Sunday I almost had to walk away because of the many flowers which I got.

André too.

They gave them to Crisje ...

(Someone in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

(Someone in the hall coughs.)

Who is gargling over there?

But inside I thought: I wanted the human being to say: ‘Master Zelanus, may I buy the books for that money?

And it does not matter, but I take them away from there and I share them out.’

The flowers had gone away in a few days.

And the books, the books would still have lived for that money.

The human being continues to feel his happiness by means of that universal flower: ‘The Cycle of the Soul’, ‘Between Life and Death’.

I am just as happy, and the joy within in us is just as great when you lay down your cloves there, as with your roses, your orchids.

Someone always came here, years ago, and then I got – I got that – such orchids, of thirty and thirty-five and forty guilders.

And then I said to André: ‘Is that not a pity?’

‘Yes’, that human being said, ‘I am doing something outside all of this.’

But we would much prefer, God, Christ, the masters, mankind, and whoever else ...

How many people are there not who cannot buy a book?

We had to forbid André it, or he would give all those books away.

And that is not possible, because the University which you possess must continue, mustn’t it?

We may no longer exhaust that now.

Those foundations were laid and that will remain, also when André and the Viennese girl leave; the Society (Society Spiritual-Science Foundation “The Age of Christ”) will get universal meaning, because that has already been established now.

That possession must remain.

But did you think that master Alcar ...

Yes, that florist must also live, mustn’t she?

There it is again.

We go so far.

If you now ... all those florists ...

I will analyze an earthly thinking philosophical system for you this evening.

We will sell flowers, only to the human being who possesses the real love and is worth it.

And then we will go from florist to florist, from human being to human being.

And then we will perhaps be walking there,

We will experience fifty, a hundred of them, here in your neighbourhood, and we would not sell one of them a flower.

Because we do not support the deception, the hatred, the jealousy.

Which of these lives is pure in thinking, and is worth it that you take away, pay and pass on those things from him, those maternal natural character traits?

Then you can also say of course: then you must also just not sell any more bread, because that is also a thief; but it now concerns those flowers. In other words, and this is the intention and the analysis: if you know and understand the human being spiritually, really and truly, then we think: what can I achieve with that which I possess, do more, make it grow, what can I achieve with the money, because that is your possession anyway, what can I do for the human being with that?

Not for the masters, not for Christ.

Because Christ says: ‘That which you want to give Me, give that to My children.’

And now we say, often: if only you had bought a spiritual orchid for that, and given that orchid to your sister or your brother.

Just look and try to enrich a human being by your life of feeling, by your deed, and you will lay a universal foundation by means of that.

And you cannot do that by means of your flowers, never.

Those flowers ...

That deed remains.

But you are still stupid, you still cannot think.

You do not let your life of thoughts evolve, do not let it grow.

We always do that.

We lay a spark there, and that human being ...

By means of your money, by means of your possession, you distribute.

Because if that human being brings hundreds of people to the spiritual becoming conscious, those are the living flowers in your garden of life, your own orchids and the spiritual tiles for your spiritual castle.

You do not think.

You think that God is pleased when you put down a flower for the Christ or for Mary.

But the flower, in the street, given to the real starving human being, is the rose, is the orchid of Golgotha.

And we must live and act in this way, or we take ourselves back to the lie, the deception, the human destruction.

Yes?

Shall I soon, quickly sell a book?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I have all of them.’

(To another lady who said something): What did you say?

(Lady in the hall says something.)

I would like to sell you another ten of them.

I would also like to sell a thousand, a hundred of them.

Of course, you will ...

The human being who does not know us and is here for the first time, would say: ‘What a calculated mess that is there.’ (laughter)

Isn’t it true?

‘What frills.’

But I am giving you the example

You will soon have to accept it anyway.

We must accept so often that you do not want, cannot understand us.

But if that becoming conscious awakens in you, then you will say: how can it be that you can still attune yourself to that.

And yet it is the truth.

You now just quickly make sure that you get those millions.

Then we will do something for that.

Just be pleased that you do not have them.

(To the hall): Which of you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘You said in ‘The Peoples of the Earth’, that the Chinese would join (the House of) Israel, but it does not look very much like it.’

(To someone in the hall): No, just wait a moment. (laughter)

China, Japan ...

The Chinese come too, but not yet for the moment.

If the Chinese and the Russians were ready to come to (the House of) Israel, mankind would now already be walking in the material paradise.

Isn’t it true?

But it is not yet possible.

We are not yet that far.

But it must come.

There are already Chinese who are already that.

Do you know that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Not very long ago then.’

That was all already building up.

Forty thousand years ago – a short time – China was more beautiful than now, more spiritual.

But that spirituality was not real.

That spirituality was built up by means of blood and tears, suffering and sorrow, for that matter.

For this child the real, true God had not yet been born and come into being.

So we go from the previous gods.

The child in the jungle also already has a supreme spirit and a supreme god.

But that is not the God whom you know and whom you will soon get to know at a Divine attunement.

So the peoples must let go of the God of today in order to get to know the material, spiritual, spatial, the All-God.

Simple?

And the peoples of the earth experience that, you experience that.

That is your evolution.

So the God, whom you still do not know, and yet lives in you, must awaken, by means of yourself, your actions, your thinking, your feeling, your love.

Here the most questions are asked ...

(Lady in the hall): ‘The colours which we have here, they also have spiritual meaning, don’t they?’

The colours which you have here, have spiritual meaning?

Yes, indeed.

Do you mean the colours of the earth?

(Lady in the hall): ‘No.’

What is this colour?

What does this colour, white, red, mean?

White, what is white?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Purity.’

Purity?

On the other side white is death.

If you are only white, then we see ‘beyond the coffin’, a spiritual corpse walking before us.

‘Oh’, people say there, ‘oh, ugh.’

A spiritual corpse, only to be seen and experienced as a white, beautiful white, uncontaminated form, is unconsciousness.

White is beautiful for the earth, but not for your spirit.

(Lady in the hall says something.)

I hope I never see it.

I do not have any white in my aura, because white is being living dead.

White got meaning for the human being on earth, but not ... (inaudible).

A cosmic meaning represents in the spirit ...

Because God is eternal in his colour spectrum, isn’t He, the colour spectrum of God.

All the colours which you already see here alone, by means of these lights, those are hundreds of thousands of colours, to ...

There is also black, but it is not white light.

It is gold, bluish, silver, green, yellow, violet, everything is in this light.

Can you feel this?

The white has spiritual meaning and also gets meaning on the other side, because white wants to be, the beginning of awakening, the empty nothing, or the all.

‘But when the human being starts to change, he gets to experience colours’, Jeus, André says.

Those wonderful colours in his eyes, in his hands, in his feeling and his thinking.

He gets colour and form by means of his comings and goings.

He places on everything, by each deed he gives colour, light, life, love.

The deeper your love is, the more beautiful the colours become.

Because love means ...

Why must you on the other side, in your spiritual garment ...

Because you have a garment there, you are already wearing it now, you are already wearing that spiritual universal garment.

I sometimes see people dressed – now I will say a terrible harsh word, André already explained it to you – dressed as trash.

We see people, I will make it clear to you, who no longer have any hands but claws.

Do you believe that?

People who no longer have normal eyes, but have an animal-like radiance, because they have the animal-like attunement inside.

The kingdom of God in you, is to represent the colour spectrum of God by your life, fatherhood, motherhood, warmth, cordiality, love and happiness.

Is that not true?

The more you go up ...

The material colours, there are only a few of them, laid as foundations, condensed by Mother Earth.

But the colour spectrum of God grows right into the Divine All.

And then your colours are divinely pure, clear and conscious.

And there is not a white garment to be seen, not with the angels either.

The angels are beautiful on the other side.

The mothers of the earth get universal, spiritual purity, and a garment which is transparent and in which you can see the whole character.

The art, your art lives in your garment.

The garment was built up as tissue, by love.

Your hair is curly, it has a hairstyle, by means of the building up which you give to your own form.

André explained it to the human being during his evenings in a wonderful earthly, material way and said, we heard that from him: did you think that you could experience your perm on the other side?

Did you think you could go there – we can follow you anyway – wearing beautiful shoes, a beautiful garment?

You arrive there naked.

This remains on earth.

What will you look like there?

Now?

You give form to your inner spiritual life by means of your thinking, feeling, actions, I said.

And did the Messiah not say that?

Is it so strange and so deep, that you cannot even understand that your people, your friends and your acquaintances, if you treat them lovingly, say: ‘Thank God that you are there again.

Come in, child.

Because when you come to us, you bring joy, happiness, wellbeing, love, understanding, warmth.

Then life is radiant again for us’?

Isn’t that true?

At this moment there are hundreds of thousands of doors open to André.

He can come where he wants and he also always brings joy and happiness along.

He immediately grasps the day.

And then you will really laugh your head off.

He will inspire you.

He will tell his philosophical nonsense.

He says things differently than you will say them and thinks; because the human being is also spatially deep in that.

And you have fun and happiness.

His friends know that.

But he has no friends.

He does not go anywhere.

Why not?

Do you see?

My sisters and brothers, the evening is finished again.

Did we teach you something?

Was it a bit of use to you, our talking and thinking?

I will pass it on to your life slowly and consciously, building up.

What is your hairstyle like?

Just have a think about it.

If you want to ask me questions the next time, then you should ask what your eyes are like, what your hands are like, as a spiritual organism, as an astral spiritual, spatial personality.

Then I will teach you something.

And then I will free you from your own darkness.

And then it will no longer matter soon on earth whether you wear diamonds, pearls, and beautiful things; they no longer have any meaning for your inner life.

Because you do not make spiritual pearls and diamonds from your life of thoughts.

And a necklace and a bracelet for the mother from that, is the living orchid for your man and your love, under and in his heart, and becomes the kiss for this life and soon, beyond your own ‘coffin’.

My sisters and brothers, sleep well tonight and dream about your own consciousness.

I thank you for your beautiful feelings.

(Hall): ‘Thank you, master Zelanus.’