‘A lady ...’ Good evening, ladies and gentleman. Otherwise they will miss that this evening of course. ‘A lady has twelve children, from twelve different gentlemen, married and unmarried.’

Now we have made it.

‘She brought a lot of suffering with this into many families.’

Yes, that is likely.

‘Now my question to you was: which grade of attunement is this when she enters the astral world?

Motherhood was wonderful, but the suffering.’

Look, even if you as a man have had ten women, and as a mother ten gentlemen, men, then I would like to know from you, ladies and gentlemen, which of them is the real one?

Who?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The chances of not one.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The chances of not one.’

It is possibly no one.

And I will tell you one thing: and there is no one there either.

And why not?

Perhaps, it could be, it could be that there is one there.

But if ten, eight, nine ladies are needed in order to give me consciousness, then you will feel, then I will already be in a very unpleasant, unconscious world.

And you mean of course: there is not one right, because you finally come to stand before your own life, your own personality, that is that twin soul.

But that is solely and only ... If you meet them for space that is spiritual of course.

Spiritual; that means nothing more physically. Because you go further, you go to the fourth cosmic grade.

But this is then the spiritual highest grade, and that true happiness for the human being enters that.

You will understand all of that of course.

But this lady, who has had ten different men, both unmarried and married ...

Well, madam, if I as a man begin with then different, unmarried and married women, then I know beforehand that I will get a beating, then we will have a kind of fairground attraction.

Twelve, twelve, twelve, good heavens, good heavens, how old I am becoming.

You will feel, that will become a chaos.

And then you can just accept, madam, that this lady has sought and accepted her own battle.

Now she can say: ‘Yes, I have become a mother, I have become a mother, I have become a mother.’

Of course, that rises out above everything.

Even if she had twenty-four men.

That motherhood is the divine core, she served by means of that, she awakened herself by means of that; not awakened, but physically you go higher by means of motherhood, you know that now.

So that divine profit which is in that, that universal profit in this state, is always there.

Even if you are a woman of the streets, and you have children, then you are still of course assured of your profit.

Isn’t that nice?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

You can shout at people, you can insult the human being and you can think badly about the human being, but for us, for me a murderer is not even bad, because the human being remains.

If the people say: ‘That Jozef Rulof is mad’, then I say: ‘Then you are that yourself.’ Because I have no strangers before me.

I cannot help it, but I see through the human being. Or I do not see through them. I do not need to do it. And if I want to do that, then I can kind of certainly determine what that human being is like.

But wrong thinking and faulty thinking, as far as I am concerned you are the greatest thief, that does not concern me, does it?

I always stand for the human being.

I want nothing to do with thieves, of course not, then I go away.

But life becomes very simple when you continue to love and to see the human being.

That does not mean that you must saddle yourself with such characters and personalities, take them on your back, in order to help; they must experience their battle, we stay away from it.

And then you should see what an awe-inspiring amount there still remains for that human being, if you think like that.

I will never break my neck – my inner, or the material – about a human being.

A human being is a universal beauty, even if you have to do with thieves and murderers.

Then you should see how that still lives, how that can talk, those eyes which can see, they can do something.

I told you recently, there was a minister, and he was in the prison, no, a journalist. He says: ‘It is remarkable, but with the greatest murderers, the men and the women who have murdered the deepest, the child perishes.’

And will a mother like that ...

Last week someone came to me – and then you put a human being like that back on his feet again in one go – that woman was completely sullied by a man.

Then one human being says: ‘But you are mad.’

But the human being can sometimes go that far, that you think you can also serve by means of evil.

Don’t you?

And finally someone like that gets an inner blow and says: ‘I feel like a mangy dog.’

I say: ‘Madam, you must not do that at all.

To me you are pure and immaculate.’

Then they say: ‘Well, then you can talk your way out of everything.’

No, madam, I once experienced someone, I will tell you, who surrendered completely spiritually and physically, in order to save something for the faith.

I say: ‘You are not bad.’

But if you do that consciously in the animal-like and you want to destroy yourself, then it is wrong of course, then we have other names.

But that human being is not bad.

There are people, who have sacrificed themselves for the faith, and then they just gave themselves away completely.

Are those people bad?

Is that an animal-like carry-on?

Yes, it is not allowed.

We will also just love once, not five hundred thousand times.

But we are still mites, because we do not possess that core, that spiritual core either.

If you have that, madam, then no one will leave each other again.

No one will leave, if you possess that, that happiness, that supporting, that being able to talk ...

If you experience that unity with man, and woman, then you have the most wonderful happiness, if you can talk for an hour, can exchange thoughts and feelings.

And then a space comes.

Then you make a space out of that little thing, and then life is beautiful, even if you are under the ground.

But if you do not have that, then the woman searches, and then the man searches; search, search, search, search.

And why?

Only for a little bit of love.

This child would not have needed twelve men if the good true Hendrik had just been there.

Not Joseph, but Hendrik.

You always say Joseph, but then I have myself in hand.

(laughter) But then I am called Piet this evening.

How would it sound one evening: ‘Ah, Mr Piet’?

Master Alcar gave me a good name.

In ‘s-Heerenberg there is just one Jeus.

But there are Josephs ...

there are plenty of Josephs (Jozef pronounces the p) walking around.

But that lady, this child, madam, is a child from millions.

And the men search, and that woman searches.

Of course that woman has had her suffering, because she will certainly have got a beating by all those gentlemen.

Dirty scum, oh, it is ugly scum, those men.

The gentlemen are sitting there again.

This evening I will get a beating on the street.

But the fights in order to achieve it, that is life, and we will not become free from that, we have to do with that, but it is the battle for the human being.

And what will she have learned?

That poor child has of course a terrible ...

There it was nice, and this was wrong again.

She is searching for happiness of course.

You should be a mother with five, six children, you have nothing to eat and you are alone; what do you do then if a good man comes?

And, a man with five children is alone, but then you ... then you need a household help, don’t you?

Now, then coo a bit, and it is wrong again.

Someone says to me there: ‘My wife passed on five years ago now, and now I have got a housekeeper.

Well, and then I also started to coo.’

He says: ‘And now, now we have already cooed that much that the chairs already fly through the room.’

For two days the possession and then the character came.

First also: ‘Yes, sir.’

You see, then she was still a servant girl.

‘Yes, sir, oh, of course’, and talking nicely.

And then she became lady, and then lady got airs and then there were arguments.

I say: ‘How stupid you are.

Did you not see that then?’

If the human being gets hold of the possession of the human being – isn’t it true, madam? – then the human being begins to hit.

And then you get: ‘Well, yesterday you could say that to me.’

I had a gentleman with me in 1938, just like that.

He says: ‘Mr Rulof, I have read your books.

You know me, you also know my wife.

My wife has died.

I am alone.’

I am quoting this example, I see that man, this is why I am talking about it.

He says: ‘And for two days, four days, five days it goes well.

Now I am ...

For years I had a gem of a soul in the house.’

Then she was still the servant.

He gets married to that child.

Two months later, a she-devil.

Then he says: ‘Who am I actually married to?’

But now the human being gets his personality, his power, and then sir goes out the door.

That chair of his no longer belongs to him; it is hers.

And this is how it goes.

Who are you?

What do you want?

Happiness is not lying in the street.

Yes, it is lying in the street, you can find it everywhere, if you are happiness yourself.

On the Other Side ...

This child has experienced a tremendous experience and development, she no longer trusts anyone of course.

We do not need to go there anymore as a man, then she says: ‘Get out!’

This soul was kicked and beaten. And we know hundreds of thousands like that in society.

For the other side she got her experience, madam, and her motherhood assured her for going further.

You wanted to know that, didn’t you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Do you wish to have more questions about that?

You see, you can ... the whole evening ... You could write a book about that of course.

But when will she get the real Piet?

Here?

After you have wanted to search for twelve?

Then you do not know it, you certainly do not know it.

You must now already know that.

(Lady in the hall): ‘She has twelve children, but they are beautiful children, they have a bright intellect.’

Well.

Well, she could possess phenomena.

If you have twelve of them, there will always be one good one amongst them, they say.

There was a gentleman, who was certainly not so stupid, he says: ‘I will keep on asking Our Lord for children until I have a genius.

I want to have one who has art, violin, piano, then we will have fun in the house.’

And the fourth which came, well, that was a pianist.

But when he could do it, then he left father alone again, then he went over the world.

The father says: ‘Now I want to enjoy myself, and now I can also pay for sir.’

Then he had to go to the theatre, he could pay twenty-five for his son.

Then they had an argument of course.

Then he says: ‘Well, you will not get in for nothing.’

Then the father says: ‘Then you must still pay.’ It goes that far.

I say: ‘You should not have asked that.’

Did you have anything else?

No?

We will just let go of that lady.

The gentlemen like that perfectly, because then something comes over ...

I have here: ‘I would like to know whether it is possible to operate on homosexuals in this way to stop the abnormal inclination.

Doctors who were occupied with this question, also found that the cores of both genders, man and woman, are present in the germ cell.’

Yes, lady, it is there.

Isn’t that amazing, what you heard on Sunday?

Were you in Diligentia on Sunday?

I come that way out.

Is that letter from you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

God in the life aura, in the life plasma, in the protoplasm of the All-Source, is father and mother.

Now on Sunday you must, when we begin ...

Soon, at the next lecture in Diligentia you will get something wonderful.

Because these lectures are all wonderful.

I hope that Master Zelanus – he will do that – will dwell for a moment, and then you should see, what you ask here, you will get the answer to that on Sunday.

In the protoplasm of the All-Source, for the All-Mother, in the cell ... The cell from you and me is giving birth and creating.

The doctors do not even know the maternal cell yet, otherwise you would already have heard something about that, but that is also creating.

There are some there ...

Every cell, you know that, nurse, has a barrier, they are the membrane systems, the mucous membranes.

But that is the atmosphere for space.

And now motherhood in that cell is closed off again to fatherhood and reaches growth if the personality is creating.

Expansion.

So if I return to the earth, then my self makes, the personality builds up my maternal body.

That the man is man, is, because the man went out of motherhood and now becomes father. Or the other way round. You, women, we laugh at that – you talk about the gentlemen, but soon you will be waling yourself again with a tie round your neck and a nice black or red hat on.

Just do not imagine anything, madam, you will soon get everything from us again.

Yes, or you will continue of course.

On the fourth cosmic grade we have a beautiful garment of course as a man.

There you no longer need the trousers from here, no longer need any shoes.

But you become ...

Can you imagine that as a mother?

There are enough here who still go back again.

I know enough, for example, who want to go to the other side.

I think, if I was to tell you the truth, then in four hundred years’ time you will perhaps be back in the Lamgroen (district in The Hague) like this.

(laughter) But you will return, and you will not be a mother now, but you will be a man.

Isn’t it strange for the world if you hear it like that?

You should tell that to a professor like that: ‘Doctor, you will also return yourself and you will give birth to children amongst the Russians.’ (laughter)

‘You will give birth to children on the edge of the jungle.’

I said to a lady: ‘Madam, just do not imagine things, because in the next life you will be amongst the Negroes (when these contact evenings were held from 1949 to 1952, the word ‘negro’ was a common name to refer to someone with a dark skin colour) in America.’

‘Eh?’

I say: ‘Yes'

because those little wisps are already there.’

Today we are with the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org), but we must make good from the jungle.

Then we must return to the Negroes (see article ‘Against racism and discrimination’ on rulof.org).

Do you still remember that doctor from here, that looker whom we knew here?

Your wife, your husband?

Sir, who are you?

Who is your wife, your husband?

You will soon enter ‘the coffin’ and where will she go?

Yes, later, in a hundred, three hundred, four hundred years I will find her again in Paris, somewhere under the Seine, or in Spain, in Italy, in Germany.

Where is she, who is mine, and yours?

How wonderful, don’t you think?

But if you tell this in society, then you will be laughed at from the front, from the left and from above; and this is true.

Fatherhood and motherhood live in that cell.

And if you then go to reincarnation, to the existing adult human being ...

If I continue with this, I will take everything off you and you will get everything back. You love each other.

You say: ‘How many murders are committed because of a woman, because of a man?’

True or not?

One human being murders the other, because the human being thinks he loves, that human being there, that one.

And you will get to carry the whole world one day under your heart.

Can you feel the childishness of our people, of the thinking in society?

If people say: ‘Oh, my wife’, and ‘my, my husband and my husband’, that man is an idol.

I say: ‘But those other men then, can you not feel anything for them?

You will have to one day, because Christ said: “Love universally.”

They are your brothers.’

‘Oh dear.

That man there?

That man, my brother?

That one, one, one, one?’

I say: ‘Yes.

Sir, then just kill him.

You hate those people, but you must not do that, because that is your brother.’

‘Oh, sir, just go away with that nonsense, you are mad.

Do you believe then ...?’

‘Yes, sir, it is true.

No, sir, I do not believe it; those are laws.’

And then you go to the doctor and then you start to talk.

‘Doctor, there is reincarnation.

The reincarnation lives in the cell, in the mother, in the man.

The man is mother and father.

And the mother is mother and man.

Giving birth and creating.

And in that cell ...’

I am proved right. But I am already speaking ten thousand years ahead; I already knew that in 1930 and then they did not even have it.

I also heard it again this week on the radio.

‘Yes’, that doctor Storm says, ‘those twins come like that and that.’

Did I not explain it to you here, explain it cosmically?

I am not an academic, but it is just apt. That is cosmically seeing and experiencing.

And now you are talking here about ...

This is getting good, you know, nurse ...

Operating on homosexuality.

What will remain of that?

Yes, it is possible.

You can make a girl from a boy, and from a girl a boy.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, the doctor.’

Yes, that is possible. Did you not hear it? A boy comes from Korea, is a boy, a soldier, something happens, and he returns as a girl.

They give him hormones, and it continues again, he is a boy again.

Did you not hear then that it ... You can see that in all of nature.

You can make a billy goat from a female goat.

We already knew that in the country.

People give that animal, a maternal sheep, the creating hormones, and the horns start to grow with that little mother.

Didn’t you know that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Everything is present in that cell.

But soon we will come back to that homosexuality.

‘They already established’, you say, ‘that the germ for man and woman is present in both genders.’

Yes, that is true.

‘With the normal man they also found female germ cells.’

They found?

No, they are there, they are there.

The man is giving birth and creating.

But the doctors, the academics still do not even know the creating organs – while that body already lies completely open – they do not even know the creating organs of the human being.

When they take the creating power apart, the man, and they have there, just like an alarm clock, all the parts of that organism, that machine – that is a machine, that cosmos ... - laid down, and they look at that, then they do not know what all those things mean.

And especially not when you come to the astral creation.

Yes, now you think of course ...

You have condensing creation: bone system.

Now you get half-wakening motherhood: then you already come to the mucous membranes.

And that is called in creation, for God, not blood and not nerves and not sperm, but that is creating power in that and that grade.

And then the man has ...

Then master Alcar and master Zelanus make very different words.

A new dictionary comes, emerges, because now that sperm is called something very different.

Because now you get the fleeing powers from that and that is no more than the seven grades from the Divine All to the material law of sperm; and now it is sperm, and then it was light.

But there in those mucous membranes, that mucous which comes with that, the cell does not live there, the doctor says, but that comes from the creating power, a single cell, and that divides itself again in millions, and you have the cell there.

The doctor does not know yet again what that is for.

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, they cannot work it out.’

No, they do not know.

I can analyse that completely for you.

Everything which comes out of the body has a meaning.

And then they say: ‘Yes, we do not know it.

What could that be now?

What could that mean now?’

Then you must return to the cosmos.

Then you must see the atmosphere and know the earth and know the origin, how it went, and then you will find all of this again.

But now we will soon come back to that homosexuality.

And that is of course a science, you can write ninety-five and a hundred books about that, then you will still not have made it.

If you start to analyse motherhood, fatherhood, homosexuality, maternal, paternal, cell power, cell consciousness, cell psychopathy, and start to analyse all those laws, you will need a book of five thousand pages, only about the birth of a child.

Yes.

(Jozef continues to read). ‘The surgeons have already tried ... testisles ...’

What is that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Testicles.’

Testicles.

(Lady in the hall): ‘The male genitals.’

‘ ... to implant testicles in the man, but for one homosexual they managed to produce normal inclinations, but not for the other one.’

Of course not.

Of course not, that is so perfectly simple. I could have told that doctor that immediately.

I say: ‘Sir, it is not working.’

And why not, do you know that, nurse?

It is perfectly simple, because I explained it to you here recently.

Why is it possible for one and not for the other?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The wrong grade then.’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The grade is then perhaps wrong.’

If you are far out, then you are no longer ...

But if you are still in, then you can get that back, and then it sucks you up again.

Isn’t it simple?

Then they say: ‘For that one mad sheep that can really be tried, and for the female goat too, but not for the other one.’

I say: ‘No, sir.’

‘But why not, sir?’

I say: ‘Because that female goat is out of the homosexuality.

He will soon become a man.

‘Did you think that the dog, the cat, the chicken ... Did you think that God took cockerel into account, the cockerel whom you need for all your chickens, that that chicken will soon not become cocky?

You have doves and you have cropper pigeons.

And did you think that always that one dove must play mother and the other, the gentleman who is cooing there like that – do you feel? – that fusspot, that he always coos round that lady?

Soon she will also get the same airs and graces, and he will also give birth and lay eggs, that gentleman.

But what is that?

They do not know.

Why do you have a male sparrow and a female sparrow, madam?

I have already followed all those lives as Jeus.

I think: why does that chicken have so many cockerels?

No, the cockerel have so many chickens?

(laughter) But, why is that?

Why must that little dove lay eggs, I said to myself, and he sits around them?

And I just watched and waited. I sat there for weeks and months in the dovecot until that cockerel would lay an egg, but none came.

I say: why does she lay an egg and he does not, what kind of injustice is that?

Because laying an egg is nice.

Mr De Wit?

(laughter) Why does one mother have a child and the other does not?

There you have it again.

Did you not ask those things, ladies?

Are you the living dead in the city?

Do you never look at nature?

If you see a pair of doves ... Downstairs at our house they have there ...

I looked at them for the whole summer, and then I enjoy myself, and then I enjoy the cooing too.

But then I said to that gentleman: ‘Sir, don’t you like that?

Eh, sir?

Don’t you like that, sir, two red doves, and you get one black and one white-red?’

A jet black one from those two red ones, that is possible, isn’t it?

He says: ‘Yes, sir, but that is true.

Nature is like that, sir.’

I say: ‘No, sir, I can explain that to you.

Because now we are talking about ... you get cancer and tuberculosis from your family, that is heredity (it means here: the hereditary weakness by means of which diseases originate).’

Do you accept that, madam?

Do you accept that?

‘That heredity of that black colour’, just imagine how amazingly simple, ‘which is cancer and tuberculosis for us, and the facial expression of father, there is ...

You have a child, or we give birth to a child, and the face of the mother is not in that, but grandfather speaks from that face.’

Then they say: “He looks exactly like grandfather.”

That colour of that dove was also grandfather.’

‘Ha ha ha.’

I think: the ‘droodles’.

(There is much laughter at this.) I had explained a cosmos to him there, I gave him a cosmic present there.

I say: ‘Sir, here you also have a cigar.’

I think: otherwise he will also declare me mad.

And then he had a nice smoke and then he accepted it from me.

I think: but tomorrow I will be mad of course, won’t I?

I say: ‘Sir, he gave birth to his grandfather today.’

‘Hahe wa huh.’ (laughter)

Then my wife says: ‘What what what are you getting at again?’

I say: ‘Yes, but isn’t it beautiful?’

I say: ‘You should see, two red doves; that comes from two large croppers, silver-white.

A blue one comes out’, a carrier pigeon, isn’t it?

Now, that reincarnation goes much deeper of course.

A carrier pigeon comes from those croppers.

That is not possible, is it?

But a carrier pigeon originated from that kind, is just one grade.

Just as we, we come from one race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) and we still have that race.

You will find that again in the whole of nature.

And, madam, you should see – yes, then I will come to that of course, otherwise those tales will be no use to you – and then that homosexuality in those doves and all those worlds.

And then they say: ‘The people have to do with that.’

Oh oh oh, if you follow that language, that language of a family.

Those two doves had two children, he was father, he looked like the father, also had those bristles, didn’t he, and she did not, she was a beautiful race.

‘Well, a Piet cockerel’, that woman says, ‘such a one, such a small one, you do not understand why; that one is big, and that one, it will die tomorrow, such a small one.

I say: ‘Yes.’

I say: ‘Yes, madam.’

But I cannot begin a conversation with those people.

But you would get cosmic conversations now, about doves alone.

I already concluded that before.

As Jeus I thought: he is of course from those other fathers, because he is flinging eggs, and he is flinging eggs, and he is flinging eggs.

I caught on quickly, I was only six years old then.

I say: ‘That comes from there, there you have already laid twenty eggs, and she was also born from those eggs.’

Then José came, and master Alcar, for a moment, a blow to my head and I was there.

There are people here in the city with doves, but they do not enjoy the doves.

Then you must ...

I can almost work it out beforehand – you cannot do that actually, but you can see it – what the colour of the dove will be.

But those dove milkers, those psychologists, they do not know the doves.

The psychology and the fun of the dove is: which colours will we get today?

What is the instinct like?

Sensitive?

He does not want to be sensitive at all.

That one does, you can ...

What is all of that?

They do not understand.

And then the homosexuality of the doves.

I shouted at a father there, because he taught his son very strange things. And then I took a potato and then they flew away.

I say: ‘Go, do you want to teach your child that already, ugly thing?’

He taught him that.

The father the son.

Because that was the son, and this was his daughter.

And then he got up to those tricks and then I just threw a potato on his head.

Because that was no longer cooing.

But I saw the wisdom.

I think: look, there you have nature.

There you have a dog, there you have a cat, there you have the doves, you have the insects, and they are all familiar with that and know all of that, only the human being does not know himself.

The academic does not know ... he is now busy here – this is why it is ridiculous – to deny the human being his homosexuality.

Doctors are capable of that.

Well, what will they do now?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Are capable of trying it, you mean?’

Then you must ... that powerlessness ...

Sexuality is a feeling, but they do not know that.

Now there is a normal body, motherhood, and there is a man in that, those horns come out.

Those people all have horns, or they do not have any horns.

And now the doctor starts to cut, to operate, and he merely brings that homosexuality to light.

But, Mr Götte, what would you be now if they did that to you ... To me, I won’t use you as an example, if they took those things away from me?

(Lady in the hall): ‘A hen.’

What would I have been then?

A chicken?

(Lady in the hall): ‘A hen.’

Then you are nothing more, madam, nothing more.

(Talking in the hall.)

What are you then?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘A nothing.’

A nothing, yes, then you are nothing more.

But the doctor does not yet know that it is not possible, and a doctor cuts and wants to deny you the homosexuality, which is pure, a hundred percent feeling.

Because now you go from fatherhood to motherhood, because the soul as a human being lives in both organisms.

You are now mother, mother, and I will soon be it.

Otherwise God would be surprisingly unjust, because you as a mother experience God.

God revealed himself by means of everything.

And by means of you, the mother ...

In the mother from a little cell – you cannot even see it – the human being exists with light, thinking, feeling.

Can you feel, can you understand this great wonder which the mother possesses?

And now you come from the male, or from motherhood, and then at a certain moment we do not have any more feeling of both.

How can you suddenly be creating if you come precisely from that motherhood?

And the doctor wants to cut that away now?

Do you understand this?

How poor.

Isn’t that poor?

How poor that is.

And now the doctor says and if you then talk ...

I say: ‘Doctor, you are faced with homosexuality here, but do you not feel that this is the same thing as that you are faced with a human being who is dying and is breathing his last?

And you say: ‘Now I have seen him dying – twenty, thirty already – and now I have still not seen where that soul comes from.’

He thinks: it comes from the mouth, doesn’t it?

That mouth has a great deal to say for the human being; and that soul must come out of there. Out of that little mouth, the soul must come out of there, that big soul.

He thinks: but that is just such a small peephole, that soul will crawl out of there.

I say: ‘Doctor, from where does the soul leave when the human being dies?’

‘Well, I don’t know.

From the mouth of course.’

‘No, doctor.’

Do you know?

Where do you leave from?

How do you leave, if you go from this body and die?

How, out of the mouth?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘From all the segments of the body ...’

Yes, that is simple.

There is only one place, sir, one cell.

(People talk at the same time, the solar plexus is mentioned several times.)

The solar plexus is the temple for life and death.

You waft out of it just like that.

You are ...

You can go out just like that, you know, because every human being has his own deathbed, releasing.

But you are here.

This is the cosmos in you, that is the solar plexus.

And with the disembodiment I can go into it just like that; on Sunday mornings, you do not see it of course, but when we come on the stage, then Master Zelanus sometimes enters me to the left, and then I go backwards, and then he takes over me just like that; he steps in and he stands in, he has me.

And then he goes again, when he stands like that, for a moment ... With one footstep he can ...

You should ask him one day whether he will do it. He sometimes does it in Amsterdam.

He says: ‘Now watch out, now I am leaving.

Now I will move my foot, and then André will take over him’, and then he comes onto the ground and I continue immediately. I go directly ...

That is a deep world, but that deep world was brought together as it were by a flash of thinking, concentration.

So at a millionth second that tremendous will of the human being goes, it takes over that body. Because that is something.

That is still a hundred times worse than if you ... five thousand steam trains and electric trains together ... They are not as strong as the will of the human being.

If it is working spiritually, it is almost impossible to gauge that. But later they will also have instruments one day – in a thousand years, or five hundred years, perhaps a hundred years – and there is an instrument standing there, and then the human being starts to think and by means of thinking that human being bursts, for example thousands and thousands of houses, boulders yonder, suddenly just like that.

The human being is so strong with his will.

And I immediately take that over and then I immediately start to think, first on the physical, hands and legs and eyes, then I slowly return and then I let the light return and then I start to see, and then I go away.

Bu then a tremendous amount happens.

And that will, that disembodying, you can do that through the knees and through the legs, through the feet, through the head, but the easiest, the universal mystical way is: forward backward left right. That is just like the cross like that, you go out like that.

Bu then you must already have that spiritual personality on all the systems, or you will continue to hang like that of course.

He must take over everything, thinking, eye light, the feeling.

My eye membrane can suddenly die off because of one trance, then a disturbance comes.

For example, if you take the light away from noble organs somewhere, then you will feel, then that immediately dies off; that is a disturbance, that is just like a haemorrhage.

That means, there are organs ... If I withdraw my life from that finger, that is finally already ... But brain parts, the light in the eyes, if you can deny that life, you, for a moment, then you will feel, that will fall apart, and that will collapse, that will dry out as it were to the second, and you will have a disturbance, you will have a haemorrhage, or your light will suddenly be weakened.

That can all happen with that nice talking in Diligentia, with painting, with healing, with writing and with everything.

A hundred million dangers.

I could have – I still do not understand it myself – I could have been mad already. That is not possible, because the consciousness was there; but then I would already have been round the bend as a child.

But that is not possible.

But disturbances, physical disturbances ... That is perfectly simple; if that master cannot do all of that, then he will break you physically and mentally.

But now to return to that homosexuality, then you will feel, nurse, how pathetic, how horribly unnatural those doctors still are with their cutting skills.

I am really not saying anything bad about that.

If you must be operated upon the gentlemen are amazingly clever; appendix, all the things that have been built up, just say, in the last hundred years.

Before they had to consciously cut you open there and then you wept. A loss of blood; one in a hundred made it through.

I also read an article like that this week: a gall bladder operation a hundred years ago, that was for life and death, one in a thousand people made it.

Because that was a conscious laying open of your side, and that was terrible, a loss of blood; the people had to die.

All the things people have learned in a hundred years.

But spiritually, the deep core for life, soul and spirit with regard to a system, a part of the organism, people still do not know that.

And you can only know that if you know the cosmos, the construction, how God spiritualized and condensed Himself.

So when that doctor is faced with homosexuality – which is your question: can people cut that away? – then I laugh at him.

And, yes, I did not need to talk for so long at all, because in two seconds I could have explained that homosexuality to you, in two words.

But just add that yourself.

But then I will suddenly take everything away, then there will be nothing more, nothing more.

Then it is no longer a homosexual, no longer a father and no longer a mother.

Because it is going there at the end of the day.

If he intervenes deeply with his knife, there will be nothing left of that mother and that father.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Will they then prevent the material evolution?’

They can.

Yes, there is so much.

The human being who wants rid of his homosexuality, he must first come to the masters on the other side, to the spiritually conscious doctor.

You will also get lectures here soon.

What we are talking about now, they must all learn that soon, mustn’t they?

I saw that on the other side. But that must soon be explained to the university, mustn’t it?

He says: ‘Stop, just wait, sir, there will be no more cutting here.’

Those doctors will soon get lectures by means of the direct voice instrument from the spiritual doctor from the seventh sphere; he looks through the organism, he knows what purpose those systems, especially the maternal and paternal systems, what purpose they all serve?

There is no longer so ...

There may be no cutting for those things, sir, you remain a normal homosexual and you try ... that is not homosexuality, but that is, from motherhood to fatherhood and the other way round; so you just have to accept that.

You are still like that, but soon you will return to the earth, you will also return.

And anyone who is homosexual (see article ‘Homosexuality’ on rulof.org) – do you feel – he already returns, because you will be either a man, or a mother; but half-conscious ... You are either animal-like mother, or animal-like father, creating, that is all possible.

But on the other side you do not see any homosexuality.

In other words, they must all return.

Must become a mother or a father.

Because, half-conscious for fatherhood and motherhood you cannot experience any first sphere, can you?

In the first sphere you are either a hundred percent mother, or father. No, you are both.

And if you are now that for half, you lack something, then there is no happiness there in the first sphere, is there?

So, what is the earth for?

In order to prepare you – by means of fatherhood and motherhood – for that spiritual happiness.

Because there you are truly happy in everything.

Bu then you must be a hundred percent mother or father, creating and giving birth.

Isn’t that normal?

So those people return and become a mother.

And now the doctor comes and cuts in that.

What does he want to cut in?

That is simply destruction.

And people cut for so many things.

You could talk another twenty-six years about that.

But then you must ask questions, because I know a hundred thousand of them.

I can give you a hundred thousand answers for this.

It is no use to me, because then we go to the cosmology and then we start to analyse those organs.

And it does not only concern homosexuality here this evening.

Because every question which you ask is cosmically deep.

I can make a cosmic problem of it just like that.

I do it all the time for that matter.

Because if I was only to say yes and no, then those evenings would be no use to you.

I make a ...

I add a lot, to which it has contact and to which it has connection.

Don’t I?

Do you not have anything else about this?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The grades ...’

You should start to look more.

You are a nurse, aren’t you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

You should start to look more in a hospital and you can enjoy it.

And then you should also use that against the doctor, then you will get something great back.

(Lady in the hall): ‘He would ask if I was mad.’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Then they will lock me up. Then he will say: you are mad.’

Now, if he has said ten times that you are mad, then you say the eleventh time: ‘Good heavens, that is right.’

Where did he get that from.

I have heard boys in a psychiatric institution, who have read my books, were here.

Then that doctor says: ‘Where did you get those things? Because that is true what you are saying there.’

He says: ‘Now, I will get ... I am a pupil of Jozef Rulof.’

‘After all!’

And then another came: ‘Yes, doctor.’

He says: ‘How can it be, eh?

There we are.’

I say: ‘Just tell exactly what I said.

What he is achieving.’ And he did not achieve anymore.

‘Yes, it is right.’

He says: ‘Doctor, you do not know the spirit, you do not know the soul.

You do not know the soul at all.

But you do not even know the spirit of the human being, that is the personality, you do not know the life of feeling.

You do not even know what all the systems work on.

How much power does a human being possess in order to be able to deal with your shock?

What do you achieve with your shock?

What is the feeling like?

What is the personality like?

What are the tissues like?

What wakes you up?

Because by means of the shock you can awaken a material disease.

Didn’t you know that?’

And then that man stood, he says: ‘Yes, because we saw it.

One person got severe pneumonia because of the shock.’

‘Yes, sir.

But that pneumonia was already there, doctor, and now that was awakened.’

(Someone in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Who said ‘yes’?

Yes, lady, and in this way you deal with everything.

And then I am not a doctor.

(Lady in the hall): ‘That was lying latent, of course.’

Yes, they all lie ...

You awaken things with a blood transfusion, with a shock, this and that and thousands of things.

The human being is not normal.

The human being is healthy?

You think that you are all healthy, but you are all full of gall stones and kidney stones.

All of you.

There is not one here who has not had gallstones.

Did you not know that?

And it is not possible, because if you do not have any grit, then your kidneys are no good anymore.

You are full of grit, everyone.

There is not a body which does not have any grit, any kidney stone.

What did you say, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘We do have gall, but surely not with stones?’

Gallstones?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, that hurts such a lot.’

No, madam.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Gall grit.’

No, stones too.

A lady comes to me.

I say: ‘Yes, madam, you must go to a doctor.’

She only got pain four days ago.

I say: ‘Madam, you are full of gallstones.’

I have had twenty, a hundred people like that.

I say: ‘Well, I see at least’, the daughter came, I say: ‘there are at least three hundred.’

Then she says: ‘Are you completely insane?’

Madam, three hundred and fifty-four came to light.

Twelve hundred.

Large and small.

And did you think that you were free from gallstones?

Then that gall is not even good, because that reaches stone.

She says: ‘But, sir, I only felt it yesterday, the day before yesterday.’

I said: ‘Madam, when you were a child, it already started.

You have already been walking round with those gallstones for twenty, thirty years.’

But they were not irritated. And now the nerves come and now it is beginning.

All nerve matters.

And the doctors also admit that completely, because there is almost no human being whose kidneys are free from grit, and the gall free from stones.

Without stones, a human being without gallstones?

Is a revelation, a revelation.

And then three hundred and five, three hundred and twenty, another two hundred and eighteen.

I say: ‘I cannot get them out.’

I cannot get rid of a kidney stone either, but then that kidney stone must be just there at a height, by means of which ... By means of magnetising you get a slime around that stone and then it becomes loose.

Because it is just like you have a flower – you know, in nature – which remains hanging everywhere, a bud like that; a stone is like that, it attaches itself and that is sharp. And if it gets irritated by something, then you already scream from pain, then you already get attacks and then you can no longer stand it.

But they are lying nicely in a fluffy slime; that is an aura, exactly like the earth in the atmosphere, and those ugly stones lie in that.

If they are inside, then I will not get them out again.

I have freed people from numerous kidney stones, but then we had to see them; and then it was possible, otherwise you can magnetise for a thousand years and then you will get them anyway.

But that was possible.

I say: ‘Madam, it will happen of its own accord.’

And then, the releasing is also a terrible pain, it rips everything apart.

But still.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Sir, can people also be born with a hardened kidney?’

A child?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, be born with a hardened kidney?’

Yes, that is all possible.

I recently read and I heard, and I knew from a doctor: there was someone who was completely hardened inside – different organs.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Well, I have a son, who was born with a hardened kidney.’

Yes, that is possible.

That is possible, you can have a hardened kidney. The gall has this.

Remarkable situations emerge, as a result of which the human being hardens.

And that can already start at the birth.

It can already begin in you.

Also possible.

The mother has given birth to the strangest circumstances.

They are disturbances, they are only just physical disturbances.

But isn’t it terrible?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I was lying in the hospital and there was a man and he had hardened completely.’

Yes, you also have that.

And that disease is already old, it comes from twelve, thirteen, fourteen hundred, fifteen hundred, you had it a lot then. Now you do not hear so much more about it.

But that disease is already ancient and they still do not know what it is.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Is it not also a kind of calcification?’

Calcification.

It is of course a ...

You will feel, there is something wrong with the glandular systems here.

It is also absolutely in the glandular systems, because if the glands do not feed, then we will harden in a short time.

It will dry out and then, because of the acids which the body has, it will harden.

The acids, they serve, if you like, as the calcium for the sticking the stones together in order to build a house.

In this way those mucous membranes and those glandular systems all have a working and a task, for that and that and that and that, blood circulation, and all those other things.

But those glandular systems for every organ, as far as the smallest cells ...

We are one system, we are actually one glandular system.

Do you feel this?

There are just so few organs, noble organs, which are sensitive and have space and possess elasticity, there are so few of them, because everything is one cell, that is one glandular system.

And every organ possesses the own glandular systems, because they are the systems, the canals, in order to feed the actual thing, the petrol for the engine.

And if you take such a human thing apart, then you will see wonders, but then you must understand the mucous systems, the glandular systems.

And if that is not there ...

I treated a lady, who had not eaten for seven years; that is even worse.

And she was nice ... nice and heavy.

I told you it.

No one believed it, the doctor did not.

He says: ‘Pull the other one.’

Then her sister says: ‘I do not believe it either.’

And her brother-in-law does not.

Then she says to me: ‘It is terrible, terrible terrible.

Sir, I suffer the most because they laugh at me, they do not believe me.’

I say: ‘Go there.’

Then she went there. She was three months with that sister, then that sister became sick from fear.

She did not eat for two months.

Then she says: ‘But dear God, there is something wrong with you.’

Then she says: ‘Yes, what a wonder, I can no longer eat.’

But a bit of tea and that, but no more food again.

She lived under my power.

As long as I came and I went and stood nearby for a while, then the body already worked.

I say: ‘Now, you have enough again for today.’

A moment, two minutes, because then it already started.

And then she got a doze of the hiccups, then that stomach started to work, and that had to work, and then it went down again.

And then she could live on that power for two months.

I had to let her go during the war, because then I was a bundle of bones.

Then she also had to ...

During the war everyone became thin, and she was like ...

Then the people said ...

Then she says: ‘Now I am even worse.’

And the people (said): ‘You will have all kinds of things in your cellar, of course.’

Then she says: ‘Isn’t it terrible, Mr Rulof?

Now they also think that I eat all kinds of things.’

‘Well, the chimney was also smoking this morning, they have fried steak of course.’

‘Look at that human being.

Blooming, eh, red.’

She had not eaten for seven years, for eight years, for nine years.

Then she was called a black marketeer.

But you see, all the things that can be experienced because of those problems.

Then you can also continue.

But I do not intend to act the doctor this evening.

But if you are talking about this, then you will have to agree, nurse, that the human being, also the academics, still know very little about the human organism.

And they say that themselves for that matter.

(Lady in the hall): ‘How is it that the kidney stone glitters so much?’

The kidney glitters?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The kidney stone.’

Glitters?

Did you not know that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Like a diamond.’

Did you not know that?

Have you ever seen a stone in the water which does not glitter?

You bring the sea close again.

If you ... those stones ... that kidney does nothing else than ... that is a dredger.

That is ...

What a planet does for space, the kidney does for the human organism: it cleans everything, doesn’t it?

The kidney is a sand pump, a cleaner of the human organism.

And the water goes through that, just like sponge, it goes like that all day.

If you could see all of that working.

I saw every body part on the other side.

Have you read ‘The Peoples of the Earth’?

It is in that, isn’t it? In the Temple of Docters, they have everything there for that matter, they can show you the human being there, living spiritual, every organism works at full power, through the masters, through me.

If that body is yours, then you can let it work there and then look through it and then you can see how that blood runs, you look through it like that.

This is why I repeat: have you ever seen a stone in the waters? Take a stone out of the sea or from a muddy place, wherever, from the waters; was it already black, or bumpy, or dirty?

That is not possible, is it?

That is sanded clean.

That is a fine tissue, and also a material, if you like, that absorbs itself slowly, attaches itself, and that forms itself, hardens itself.

The growing universe as elemental laws, takes place in the human kidney and in the gall bladder.

Is that so difficult to understand?

Did you have anything else?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I once saw a kidney and that looked more like porcelain.’

Yes, sir, they are so flat.

We painted them.

Jongchi painted them recently, he says: ‘There you have a kidney stone.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Like a needle.’

Yes, sir, like a birch from a tree, a fine needle, a fine tissue from a fine elm tree for example, or a chestnut ... No, not a chestnut, a mahogany which ... You can ... that there ...

A kidney stone is just as smooth, can be just as smooth and can reflect just like ... It is the animal-like stone for the emerald and an amber.

This kidney, if it gets a colour, then the people would also hang it on their coats.

But it is just a grey thing.

And why is it grey, sir?

Dark grey, something like that.

Why?

(A lady says something, and another lady; they talk through each other)

What did you say, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘That is the first stage of a stone.’

No, I will never believe that you will guess it this evening.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Because it was never exposed to the sunlight.’

Now, you should listen: that has not known any light. And everything which has light, gets colour.

My lady, my compliments, that is very good, very deep.

Yes, you see, we are making progress anyway.

Don’t you think?

But that did not know any sunlight.

Everything which is in the darkness, does not get any colour.

It does in the seas, but not the colours either of the day consciousness, because the ... Now we will begin with a biologist, with a geologist, the man, the expert of the waters: ‘Doctor, why does this anemone have that colour?’

When we start to speak of colours. ‘Why does the flower of the waters not have the colour of space?’

And then he says: 'Yes, that is true.'

I say: ‘No, sir, that is the shadow of the ape and the human being.’

The human being is an ape, the human being is an ape, yes.

And the ape is a human being.

Darwin says: ‘The human being was born from the ape.’

No, sir, the ape is the shadow of the human being, and those stones from the waters are the shadow of the plant and the flower at land consciousness.

Isn’t that nice?

(Someone in the hall): ‘Great.’

Great, yes.

You will find all of that again, it is all open.

If I had the biologist here, he would become completely insane from longing to get to know that.

I can tell you a lot more, but it is no use to me, because I get everything back again.

An individual says: ‘Oh God, how can it be, how can it be.’

It is no use to me, because it goes through space like that and it flies away again.

Yes, that recorder records it, but yonder they do not understand it either.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof, may I ask something?’

No, that lady wanted to ask something.

(Lady in the hall): ‘I wanted to ask something, Mr Rulof.

A pearl in an oyster, is that actually the same thing, which is wrong with an animal, if the human being has that?’

So you would say: a pearl in the oyster, would that be like a kidney stone for the human being, or the gallstone?

Madam, the pearl ...

Who knows ...

Does the human being also already know something about the oyster, what that pearl in that oyster actually means?

And why one species has it and the other does not?

Well, now the people will start to think of course: that man there, that fellow thinks that he understands everything.

But I challenge you.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Is that a tear?’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Is that crying?’

Yes, for the world.

Yes, madam.

(Lady in the hall): ‘I read that once.’

Yes, that is a nice fairytale.

That is the tear ... a human ... It is a tear.

That oyster wept until the tears ran dry, a pearl originated from that.

No, the human being says that, you see. This is why that thing has become so expensive.

(There is talking in the hall.)

This is why that thing became so expensive.

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Separation.’

Yes, what?

(Lady in the hall): ‘A grain of sand, around that.’

Yes, that material. But it has divine meaning.

It is of course fatherhood and motherhood.

But there is even more.

Look, I will explain it to you, because you will not work it out.

In every cell which God created, the spiritual core lives as space.

And now the oyster had – people call this the pearl of the sea, don’t they – it has not only built up the life of feeling in that pearl, but also the eye, the personality and everything, and fatherhood.

The fatherhood of this life possesses the human eye as it were of the waters.

So the consciousness of water has revealed itself here as a diamond, which you also ... in the plant ... That was all born in the waters. But a stone, a diamond, an emerald, opal, to name but a few, all those precious stones are built up, given birth to and created by the fire, by the heating up of Mother Earth.

And when they started to cool down, they got the colour.

So that is land consciousness. Do you feel? So that is giving birth and creating. Because I can explain to you whether the stone is mother, or is father, because you get paternal consciousness in everything, and motherhood.

And also in diamonds and pearls.

Because the diamond is the most expensive in a manner of speaking, and it shines from all sides. But the mother ...

So there you have seven grades again before that stone has also completed that evolution – because that stone, a plant, a piece of grass, and whatever you take, fatherhood and motherhood live in everything and the seven transitions can be experienced – until you possess that radiance as a stone, which we now call diamond.

We call that diamond.

But for God, for the creation that has a very different meaning and then we only get the highest consciousness in this grade, so that state as a stone, male or maternal authority, independence, received by the earth.

So Mother Earth is mother, father, and gave all her life maternal, paternal authority.

And now we have precious stones, and now you also have that in the seas, and that is now the oyster. And if you come much much deeper into the seas, then you will also find ... they have still not found them, but it comes from there, then you see oysters with perhaps such pearls.

And then you have to do with fatherhood and motherhood for the waters as an oyster.

Oyster.

And now the shell of the oyster is the atmosphere for that little animal, and the insect in that, that life, originated because of that and that and that fish.

The fish came from the human being, the animal came from the human being, and that fish gave birth again, and in that and that and that grade, there and there, the oyster appeared.

And that can all be followed and seen with the masters.

I saw those things.

This is why we can write a hundred million books.

If I go to a diamond expert – I am not a diamond expert, I am not a doctor, I am not a painter, I am not a writer, I am nothing, but the masters know everything – then I will drive that man mad talking about my knowledge of diamonds and emeralds.

I can tell the artist which violin he has.

I say: ‘Sir, you do not have a Stradivarius.’

What is Stradivarius for his violin?

Do you wish to begin about music?

About sculpting?

About everything which the earth possesses?

Everything, believe me, is feeling.

And if you know that thing and know space, then you know after all how that thing originated as material, and then you know the spirit, then you know the soul, and then you know the own grade, the attunement and everything.

(To the technician): Another second?

Ladies and gentlemen, the diamond as tea is ready.

But that is another consciousness again.

INTERVAL

Ladies and gentlemen, I have here a question: ‘I have just recently ...’ This is also very difficult writing, I will have to study it for a moment. ‘Since I just recently ...’

From who is this?

Can you help me?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I think it is from me. I don’t know.’

‘Since I just recently ... since’ ... is that possible? Since I just recently?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, there.’

‘Since I just recently joined your contact evenings and so I have not come so far yet with your teachings, am aware of them, I therefore ask the following: Since a few evenings ago it happens to me, when I come home in the evening in the dark, when opening the front door, that at the bottom step of the stairs, there is a human shadow.

It is just a moment, then it has disappeared again.

It is only just on the stairs, because upstairs in the hallway, where it is also dark, I do not see that apparition.’

And what do you want to know about that?

Whether it is real, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, I do not know what I must think about it.’

You must not think anything about it and you must not go into it either at all.

It could be true.

Is that a new house, an old house?

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, I have been living there for fifteen years.’

And never seen before?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Never.’

And since you have been coming here, did you take someone with you as it were, who waits for you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, I don’t know either, you know ...’

Is it a young person, an old person?

(Lady in the hall); ‘Now, it is a shadow.’

A shadow.

(Lady in the hall): ‘It goes away like that, a flash.

And upstairs, where it is also dark, I do not have it there.’

Look, well, you have of course ...

I have experienced those things a thousand times, but then it had a meaning, you see.

Nothing happened to me or there was something.

I am leaving my patients ...

Such remarkable things. I know those shadows.

And that has a deep meaning of course and it has an eternal meaning, and it has to do with that person and to do with that person and not even with that person perhaps.

But then I was coming back from a patient and on the stairs someone was waiting for me.

He says: ‘Can you see me?’

I say: ‘Yes, what is the matter?’

Then he said: ‘A lady will come this afternoon and she needs urgent help, because her child is seriously ill, and I am the father.

Eh ...

When she comes, then leave immediately, because it is pneumonia and this is why I was already waiting for you.’

So the spirit, the father, the daughter, and the child, that was a beautiful contact of course.

That father was already waiting for my master.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, ghosts?’

No, that father was already waiting for my master in order to help that child.

And in the afternoon, just before three o’clock that daughter came and I say: ‘I already know it.

I say: 'Because ...'

Then I could already give that lady proof. Then she had trust of course, my master accepted that again.

He says: ‘Just go ahead and just manifest yourself, he will take care of it.’

That was immediately this for me.

Then that lady comes, I say: ‘Madam, you do not need to tell me anything, because your child is ill.

You have a five year old girl, she is blond. She looks like that and that.’

‘How can it be, sir.’

There I had therefore a clairvoyance outside of that, directly from the other side; and that can no longer be telepathy.

And in this way I then got my phenomena.

Those shadows are everywhere.

I walk through shadows every day.

And one human being is sensitive and the other is not.

But if you see that, then you must just carry on walking. And perhaps it will manifest itself later.

Are you very sensitive?

(Lady in the hall): ‘It is strange. I have never experienced it.’

Are you very sensitive?

I can tell you a thousand stories about that.

Another also sees a shadow like that, she takes a house, comes to a room, and, not at first, but suddenly in the evening – she also goes to a concert – there is a shadow in that room.

Then she says: ‘Remarkable.’

Then she got cold, then she got hot; then it started, then she had made contact.

Yes, but I do not want to tell you those things precisely, otherwise you will already go up to that shadow.

No, I will just not do it.

When she came to me later, I say: ‘Yes, you live there and there?’

‘Yes ...’

I say: ‘Look, that and that and that lives in your aura, and you must just move there as quickly as possible.’

But you don't have to do that.

So you get to see another world of course, and I do not want to awaken that now.

If I see that shadow, then I will know for what meaning and for what purpose he is there, and then I can follow that, and then I will know whether that is right or wrong, or that it was before, or that it was for another, that it does not have to do with you.

Look, now you are so sensitive ... Because you walk through thousands of shadows every day and you do not see them.

And there is something there.

But could it not be the own shadow, of yourself, which you see like that, in a manner of speaking?

(Lady in the hall apparently gives a sign of denial.) No, a very different one.

There was a lady.

(Lady in the hall)” ‘I am also not afraid at all.’

No, you do not have to be either.

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ... when I arrive, then I think: hey, what is that?

I just walk on, up the stairs.’

Because you really go into that shadow, and you would follow that, and you are a bit sentimental in a manner of speaking, and oversensitive, you will feel, the greatest misery comes out, because those people attach themselves to that.

And now I say: let that walk, just walk through that.

And say: ‘Good evening, sir. Bonjour.

It is probably cold here outside like that?’

I immediately begin a story.

I say: ‘What do you have to do here?

You have space, and you are sitting here on a stairs?

You are doing well.’

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, he does not sit either, he is tall, he is jumping about the place.’

Good, just let him stand and just let him fly, he is floating in space.

But I say: ‘Smoking, sir?

Smoking?’

He says: ‘Hey, I cannot smoke anymore anyway.’

I say: ‘Oh, then you have intellect, that you can no longer smoke.

No, you are spirit, you are a shadow.’

I will begin immediately with a story.

And perhaps with nonsense.

‘You have space and now you sit here on the stairs.

Who are you waiting for, for  black Peter?’ (laughter)

Then I say: ‘Hier gibt es überhaupt nicht zu schwarze Pietzen.’ (laughter)

But, you see, that shadow can have to do with you and another, but you just do not go into it.

And I have no other explanation, because I have no contact.

We will just assume that that man is not waiting for black Peter.

But more people have had that, madam.

Suddenly this, suddenly that.

Remarkable, then they hear this, or they see this.

I once met someone in the street, years ago, she says: ‘It is remarkable, sir.’

She had heard about that in that street, that I was mad, and then they thought that I perhaps did that, because I also live in the street.

Because then at a certain hour the light always started to flicker in the hallway.

Then I also had to watch out.

Then another said: ‘Oh, just walk on quickly.’

Then they already thought that I was a black magician of course, because I would bewitch that bell.

I say: ‘Well, madam, when it is that far, then I will warn you first, see.’

I say: ‘I have sometimes been bewitching, madam.’

Then I say: ‘Because, the proof ...’

That door yonder fits my key exactly’

Then I wanted to go home quickly and then I went up two doors too soon.

And then I was standing, I think: what?

We do not have a child and a pram, do we?

And we have a very different carpet.

And I already had my hat on the coat stand and I wanted to go in, I think: good grief, preserve me; there was also a bed there.

And we do not have a bed in the front room.

I was in another person’s house, wasn’t I?

If they had seen me, I would have been in prison.

I did it by accident.

(To the hall): But who else has seen shadows?

Well, but now we all get shadows, madam, this evening.

But just do not go into that.

Well, you say: ‘Ho ho ho ho.’

(Lady in the hall): ‘It will go away again, you know.’

Yes, if you really see consciously materially or spiritually, you must begin a nice story, a talk one day.

Perhaps he will say where he is from, if it is a he, or a lady.

(Lady in the hall): ‘That is not possible, because he is gone again so quickly.’

So then he has no intention of talking, and also impudent too.

You come upstairs and then they run away.

Well, what is that now, hey?

I am curious whether you will see him again this evening.

Perhaps that academic, or that soul, will be sitting waiting for you and only just wants to greet you in a friendly way.

Well.

And now just look.

I will soon see from what faith he is.

I hope that you understand that properly, because I am talking rubbish to an astral personality.

Someone came to me at home ...

That astral world thinks that we people, material people, are mad.

Someone enters the room there.

That is possible in my house, from the astral world, in my whole house, I can close off The Hague.

I have closed off the Netherlands for a patient, madam. Did you not read that, with Betje in ‘Masks and Men’, no, in ‘Spiritual Gifts’? I treated her, we treated her and then we closed off The Hague.

And then she could go out in The Hague, but one step outside The Hague, when it was not yet that far, then they had got her again; she started to scream, it was just as if she was suffocating.

Then she says: ‘How can it be.’

I say: ‘You can go out a street, not further.’

Out a street.

But that demon was standing at the corner of the street again.

And then he had to leave The Hague and then we threw him out of the country, the country.

But we experienced those things.

They also came to me.

Then he says: ‘I will let you write.’

He came, he had a nice tie on, like that.

I looked at him like that, I was sitting behind my machine, master Alcar was writing and lets go of me.

I think: now, my master has not seen that neck.

‘I will make you world famous’, he says.

‘These books are good for people who take everything, but there must be a tingling to it, a sauce.’

I say: ‘Who are you?’

‘I am a Belgian poet.’

And then he started to recite poetry.

‘May I?

May I?

Just surrender yourself, then I will show you it.

It is a good novel, you will become world famous.’

I say: ‘Good.’

I looked like that into the eyes of master Alcar: just let him mess around.

I say: ‘But just go ahead.’

And he grasps me, he starts to write.

He says: ‘I am busy, I am busy!’

I said: ‘Yes, I know that.’

I was already standing next to him, but I was holding onto myself.

Master Alcar comes, immediately.

And then we let him mess about on the machine.

And there he started, four pages, five pages.

I say: ‘Now it is good enough.’

Suddenly back, take the pages, I say: ‘You see.’

Round the bend.

And at the same time he flies at my throat, here.

I say: ‘Go away!’

He goes.

And then I went to the kitchen, madam, the thumb and the hand were on my throat: blue.

I say to my wife: ‘Can you see anything?’

She says: ‘That is blue, what is that?’

I say: ‘There was a spirit, he wanted to strangle me.

He wanted to write a good book, but he strangles me first.’

Then master Alcar says: ‘He will not come back to earth for a hundred thousand years, he knows it in one go.’

Look, those things ...

I can talk day and night with astral beings, but I will walk on just like that.

You can experience the contact with the Other Side at every moment, if you just remained normal.

But if you start to see, then you are already no longer normal.

Then you lose yourself.

I see that every day with the people, I also hear it every day with the people.

‘Oh.’

Yes, if I start to do ‘oh’ and the Moon speaks to me, then the Moon will destroy me.

Master Alcar says: ‘Remain perfectly simple.

Shadows; you do not have to do with shadows.

If you see them, ask something.’

And as I developed and received, I started to ask that gentleman something and then I made a complete fool of him in a human way.

And now you say: ‘Yes, but death is in between that.’

No, there is no death.

I would say: ‘Sir, what a dope you are, to go and sit on the stairs here’, if I saw that shadow of yours.

‘What do you want? What kind of pleasure is it to go and sit here in that muddy street?

It is all mud on the earth.

Is it not cold here?

I say: a nice little cigar?

Come on, just come inside.

Just try it, to come over that threshold.’

Hey hey, they cannot come over that, that is mine, that area has been closed off.

Sits there.

What kind of a horror is that who is sitting there in The Hague?

Has now got hold of The Hague.

Perhaps he will also try it in Paris, to go and sit there in the evening in order to show himself, and the human being will see a shadow.

‘Sir, do you not have more than that?’

And then you must ...

The spiritualists who go into that, they want ...

Now someone with a bit ...

Now you are, thank God, still sensible.

I treat those things, you notice it too, perfectly sensible.

And now I have a spiritualist and she wants to be a medium: ‘I saw something!

Oh, I saw!

I saw it!’

Now go into that.

‘I saw it!

I saw it myself!’

Yes, they saw it.

In two months they were round the bend, because of her seeing.

Because then they started to long and then they attracted those shadows, but they did not know who they were.

And here: ‘Oh yes, yes, oh, I know exactly what clairvoyance is, because I also saw that shadow.

And now I write.’

Yes, from dry land into the ditch.

That is so dangerous.

Just remain nice and sensible, madam, and just ask whether he likes currant loaf, that shadow.

Perhaps that poor little person is hungry.

And whether it is a mother or whether it is a father ...

Look, everything points to intellect and to normal human thinking.

We as human beings here in the world do not go and sit in a doorway, on a stairs, ‘phew’, blowing at someone to frighten them?

Because anyone who is sensitive and goes into that, he already goes – do you feel – on a wrong path.

Then you go to that thinking and feeling of that shadow.

That is not normal, is it?

Which human normal thinking does that?

You should enter the spiritualist world.

Frederik ... Did you read ‘Masks and Men’ from me? – Frederik is lying sleeping and then the streetlight shines like that from outside through the windows and makes a cross. And his eyes notice that and from inside, while sleeping, he absorbs that.

He wakes up and he says: ‘I have seen the Sign of the Cross.’

And then he looked through ... ‘Good grief, just look there.’

Then he saw that there through a split in the curtains, that made a cross.

He had absorbed that in his sleep.

But a spiritualist, he says, he will run away of course and he would think that Our Lord was also there.

But it was therefore the street light.

There you have that tremendous sensible thinking and analysing.

Because if you are that, you already see enough.

I can see everything and I never ask about it; I do not want to see it, only if it is necessary.

And if it is necessary, it is also something.

But why would we occupy ourselves any longer with that shadow?

If I ...

I will be pleased to ... Perhaps something will happen, you will hear something, you will see something, or even more.

But just remain very sensible.

Which of you has any other questions?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Yes, sir.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘In the third part of ‘The Origin of the Universe’ it says that there were three problems which master Alcar showed André.

The first was the birth, and the dying of the Christ on Golgotha, and the third problem that was celebrating Christmas in the eternity ...’ Spheres. ‘The Christmas in the spheres was eternal.

What does that actually mean?’

Sir, you must give eternal consciousness to every thought which you build up.

That is Christmas.

If you celebrate Christmas, here – that is nice, that is something wonderful, isn’t it? – then you are in the first sphere with your whole character.

But then you are also it.

Then the spiritual birth is always, eternally – not only for the Christ, but from yourself and for yourself and for everyone – present in that task.

That is the eternal of your Christmas in you.

and then there is Christmas, if you ...

Now we will soon have Christmas, but in the spheres it is already behind them, in a manner of speaking, if you want to see it materially; that has already happened.

Because the Christ was born in August, not in the winter.

Did you know that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, you have said that several times.

I knew that He was born in the summer, but not in August, in July.’

In the summer, in August. We did not mention a name, but I know it from Cesarino.

If Christ was born in the winter, then He would have froze, wouldn’t He?

But Christmas has been over for a while in the spheres, and it is never over, because you will live eternally in the birth and the thought and the life of Christ.

That will never die.

That is eternal.

Everything of you, sir, which belongs to your divine self, is eternal.

And that divine self already lives in you, but is now still humanly conscious or unconscious.

But the Divine spark for everything, for soul ...

Were you in Diligentia on Sunday (lecture 42: ‘The All-Source for the Human Being’)?

Then you will know it.

That is all in you.

But if you say that you have spiritual light in your character, then we will say: no, that is still not possible.

Is that also true?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I think so.’

Do you already have spiritual light?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, I would not be able to possess that, only material light.

And that is probably ...’

No, sir, you do not even have material normal a hundred percent light.

All of us do not yet have that for our characteristics.

Do you know what that is?

If you possess material happiness, you have the harmonic love of the whole of creation.

Do we have that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

You see, we do not even love materially.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, actually we do.’

No, sir, what you call love belongs to the body, but not the spirit.

Can you deal with it now?

We love, sir, all love.

But did you really think now ...?

You are kidding yourself if you say: ‘I love.’

Master Alcar says to me: ‘Do you love?’

I say: ‘No, I see now that I love myself, but not another.’

I say: ‘I love that human being as material, but the spirit, I still have to begin with that.’

And do you wish to say, sir and madam, that you absolutely love the human being in the spirit?

You do not even know the spiritual human being in the human being.

And do you then wish to say, do you now wish to talk about love, sir?

We all still have to begin with that.

What we love, that is that personality, that material personality, that woman, that man.

But do you know the spirit of that life?

Do you love that?

Now, then, sir, then they can break us at every moment, because we succumb at every moment.

Because then we are in rebellion against the spiritual in the human being.

True or not, mother?

Is that not true?

Or are you already so sacred, so far?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

I do not dare to say it.

Now, did you have anything else?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.

In those books it emerges several times about divine mercy, and the divine laws.

Yes.

Now it is locked up in that divine mercy, that if someone is reincarnated on earth and is attracted by two people, that he has to carry out a task as a divine mercy.

Yes.

And those divine laws – I would like to ask – or the karmic laws for the material, ... (inaudible) which the soul has to experience anyway.

How can people accept a boy, how can people work, let that emerge, when people are really meant for that spiritual task or must be born?

When does that actually happen?’

Look, you read of course ...

It says: André, you are experiencing a divine mercy.

Doesn’t it?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

But now I do not have that anymore.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘You experienced it.’

No, God cannot give any mercy.

But now it is cosmology.

Master Alcar holds onto the human being here, doesn’t he?

When he gets that word mercy from the books and the dictionary ... That no longer belongs in there, because you cannot ...

You can get mercy from a human being, a human being can give you something, but then it is material possession, then it is something from society.

Then I say: ‘It is a mercy that I let you in today, because we are having a big dinner, or we are having a big party.’

That can be a mercy.

But not for God, because we must earn everything.

When we started with ‘The Origin of the Universe’ ... No, when we started with ‘The Cosmology’, then he says: ‘You see, André, who are you?

You wanted it yourself.

You became serving.’

This would return to the earth, because we prepared ourselves for that, and it did not have to do with God.

But we became birth.

If you want to become a mother, you must long to become a mother, and then it is no longer a mercy anyway, because you go through that, you become a mother irrevocably.

So you change.

I will go through with that, I can also say, yes, sir; I can explain that ‘mercy’ and that ‘law’ to you, you talk about law, it is a law, it is a law again, but that law has become nature.

As I love nature, I will come into contact with nature as love and as law and then I will be it.

Is it clear?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Now I will return to the earth for this work; and you must take that, I must also take, because where must I have got it from in ‘s-Heerenberg?

I just said in the interval to Mr Van Rossen, I said: ‘I talk about it every day, it is awe-inspiring how Master Alcar has brought me through this.’

If you consider it, we have chauffeurs here; you cannot step into a car just like that if you do not know anything, can you?

But I learned to drive on a chair, in trance.

Then master Alcar had laid an amazing contact of course, in order to make a chauffeur of me, by means of a chair, and that chair also became a car.

And on the street we drove off.

There was a spiritual mechanic, who had died, and who was on the other side, he was an adept and a pupil of master Alcar.

So I learned to drive on a chair.

If I now think back ... We prepared the scenarios now of Jeus I, II and III.

‘Masks and Men’ not recently.

But during those few days I already prepared, master Zelanus prepared the three parts of ‘Jeus’ as scenario.

If you see that film, when Jeus is sitting on the chair, and then on the street, and with Willem ...

My God, my god, we had ...

I weep every day. I think: well, if it is to happen, it will happen anyway.

But if you can even experience that.

And then you also see the law ‘behind the coffin’, you see the spiritual Tall one of Jeus, but you now see master Alcar, and then he talks to Jeus, he says: ‘Come, we will disembody.’

You see a disembodiment.

We cannot film those disembodiments from the moon and in space.

But then we return and then you see me writing.

He says: ‘book book book book book book.

Books books books books.’

And if I think back to that mercy, which you are talking about, sir, then it was earned by blood, by blood, by blood, by blood, by blood, by blood.

I have a pain inside this summer; I told a few of my people who know me.

I say: ‘I am convulsed with pain.’

I went and lay on the ground moaning like a dog.

And then I said to master Alcar: ‘What will happen to me?

I can no longer stand that.’

Then he says: ‘No, because you now enter your own state.’

I do not need to disembody anymore.

The whole cosmos is now open to me.

At this moment, then I already sink into the conscious trance, a moment ago I was busy in the conscious trace.

Did you see that?

Then you must already be able to see very keenly. But then I look at you, I do not see anyone else.

Everything suddenly becomes hazy, and suddenly I become a pearl.

Then master Zelanus is there, and then master Alcar is busy, and then we become a pearl; I can tell you even more about that pearl, but then you will no longer understand it.

Well, I tell you this and that, but then you will no longer understand it, because now it is becoming cosmology.

And then you get that contact.

He says: ‘You now live in your state, which you got because you, after the nine books', then I could have died, ‘persevered, and this is how those fifteen other books emerged with The Cosmology.’

I do not yet understand that I made it through that.

I am now through that.

I have only been through that since seven, eight weeks.

Now the cosmos can, the moon, sun and stars cannot do anything more to me, because I will laugh right in their face.

I will say: ‘I am now the boss.’

But a while ago the Moon would have murdered me.

Mother Water was talking.

‘Oh, André, enter me.’

I say: 'Yes, that ...'

I say: ‘Yes, oh, Mother’, and I continue, I think: damn, I am already up to my stomach in the water, I am drowning.

I say: ‘You are a nice mother, dirty murderess.’

I say: ‘You chase me here into the water and your arms.’

‘You were born in me’, she says.

I say: ‘Yes, but I am drowning.’

‘Yes’, she says, ‘you must think about that.’

I think: my God, how dangerous.

Some day you should ...

Madam, must go to the Orientals.

Ramakrishna also walked like that into the Ganges.

Vivekananda took hold of him.

He was sitting with his head under the mud, then Vivekananda says: ‘Master, master, you are drowning.’

‘No’, he says, ‘Mother was speaking to me.’

That Ramakrishna was also into it. But here in Europe not one.

And a single Chinaman also talks about the motherhood of the water, the motherhood of a tree.

I lived day and night there in here, but I ...

But they also sit in their temples, don’t they?

You should soon hear when we are back from that source in which we are now, and we return to the earth.

‘Yes, Ramakrishna’, André says, ‘you could not do that.

Do you see my body?

I am starved.

You did not eat.

You sat there with your twelve apostles, they served and carried you.

But I walk here in society and I must be normal.

You started to dream; I must speak, I must type.

No, Ramakrishna, I must even earn my books, in order to give them out to the people.

You did not hear and were not able to do that.

And you, Dante ...’

You should hear what André flings at those academics who also touched upon those laws to a certain extent.

Ramakrishna, a very great one. And in British India. But they were also in China and Japan.

And then you get to see André, then you get to see yourself, sir.

And that is no longer a mercy.

You can ...

God cannot give you a mercy anymore, because God gave Himself to you.

That is not a mercy.

Then God can also give a mother a child.

And that poor soul is lying screaming and she has a pain like I do not know what in order to become a mother; does not have a child.

‘And why does God give that other mother there, such a ...’ in ‘Masks and Men’, ‘to that moper’, Frederik says, ‘who is squandering himself there, healthy triplets, two boys and a girl?’

And that child, that Corrie, she went to the church, and thanks Mary and prays ... Did you think, that battle of that woman ...

But the injustice with regard to God, that that slut there has healthy triplets, and that other child, which wants to thank mother Mary, does not have anything.

I once talked nonsense about that one evening, but do you also feel the deadly seriousness?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

That is a mercy, and this is destruction for God?

Mercies do not exist, sir, you must earn it all.

Did you have anything else?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Well, go ahead.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘It also says that the soul must experience fatherhood and motherhood and because of this the people must die at a young age.

What did you say?

‘The soul ...’

As what?

‘ ... as fatherhood and motherhood ...’

As what?

‘ ... at a spiritual and natural attunement ...’ Yes. ‘ ... must experience fatherhood and motherhood.’

Yes.

‘And because of that an early death occurs.

How must I actually explain that if we involve the cosmic laws at the same time?’

Yes.

You see, you must now, if you get a lecture in Diligentia ... You will not find that in those books again.

Because that is now cosmology.

You are now already blessed.

No, master Zelanus has ... the human being who has been coming here all those years ...

There are people who have experienced seven, eight hundred lectures, who are now ready for cosmology.

And that mercy, that is not a mercy.

He says: ‘Now I can finally begin in my world, from my world.’

He prepared you.

The soul returns to the earth, becomes father and mother.

For which state, sir?

For what?

As a human being?

Only in order to experience the body, motherhood, fatherhood?

What is it about in that book?

Now you touch the whole universe with your question, this is why I say: for what?

The animal world, flowers, nature, what, who?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘For the human world.’

The human world.

It is not the soul now.

Well, it is the divine spark, but now it concerns the personality of the human being.

Because the soul is divine mother and father.

That man whom you are there, that is a personality.

That life of feeling must now become mother and father.

You are now creating, you are a man.

So you come here for fatherhood or motherhood, that is now your life of feeling.

Master Alcar says in ‘A View into the Hereafter’ also ... We also talk about the hells, but there are no hells.

But we must talk like that, he says, I must write that, because if I do not materialize that word ‘hells’ and I do not record it, then the human being will no longer know what a hell is, then they will never come out of this work.

So I must hold onto the language which is still on earth, but which is wrong, because hells do not exist.

Damnation does not exist.

Those are worlds of unconsciousness.

And now everything changes, do you see?

But now you go, from that book ‘The Origin of the Universe’ to cosmology, and I cannot do that either, because then you must also make the other journey, and then I will take care of you again, but you cannot do that.

Now you start to see it cosmically.

And for ‘The Origin of the Universe’ ... but this is humanly seen.

Do you understand that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, of course. But it is also written down like that humanly.

This is also for your thinking and feeling.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, yes.’

The cosmology is soon for the adept who is spiritually conscious.

Do you understand this?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

And now your question is – look, I will go round it, I will go into it, but I have no grip – you say: ‘What must now happen to that soul, and that ...’

Where are you heading?

There are millions of laws standing before you.

Do you come for a task?

Do you come for fatherhood?

You already come for a task, because you also built up that task yourself again.

You are, for example, a doctor, and you do not achieve what you want to achieve, because your life is too short, you are getting old, you are going deaf or you are going blind, or whatever.

There are academics who have done something here, perished, but now walk around in the world with that study.

Now they have completed their task in a manner of speaking, and walk in the hereafter and do not become free from that task.

Yes, another takes it over, of course. But he wants to finish that and get his birth.

Now you get the male body for a task, that is possible.

As a mother you cannot even achieve that.

Now you must be a man in order to achieve that.

And then you really get the creating male organism outside of the law of motherhood and fatherhood.

Yes.

And that is all own will, sir, earned.

I saw people there.

A well-known Viennese doctor, who was a cancer specialist, he had not made it yet, he says: ‘I will go back.’

I was in Vienna and then I saw that man. Then master Alcar says: ‘He is going, he will die soon.’

He was soon gone as well.

He returns to the earth and continues that.

Now, if someone comes in thirty years’ time who emphatically analyses the cancer, then he is that.

He comes with consciousness from the other side, awakens; then his master is also with him.

Because he now works ... He is born now, not for fatherhood and motherhood ...

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But to finish his task.’

For ...

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... to serve.’

For the doctors.

He returns to the earth in order to give the human being back his health.

Beethoven, Bach, Rembrandt van Rijn, Van Dyck all came in order to bring art, they got the creating organism only in order to bring art.

Wagner.

There is not one woman amongst all those masters.

Isn’t that nice?

Only the man can do that.

It is also in ‘Spiritual Gifts’, you should read it once.

‘Spiritual Gifts’ is difficult for the human being, but the most wonderful text books, because they are just as deep as ‘Masks and Men.’

They are the textbooks of the University of Christ.

If you know ‘Spiritual Gifts’ well, then everything will lie open to you, everything: the human personality, the artist, the music, there is no academic on earth, sir, you still know the thief.

You like to read cosmology, you want to have ‘The Origin of the Universe’, but if you have had ‘Spiritual Gifts’ ...

First ‘The Origin of the Universe’; and if you have had all of that, sir, and also ‘A View into the Hereafter’, then you can read ‘Spiritual Gifts’ and then everything of the human being, of his character, of soul, spirit and art are open to you.

‘Spiritual Gifts’, with ‘Masks and Men’, are the most wonderful books which we have for the character.

Did you have anything else?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, thank you.’

Which of you?

Are you satisfied, sir?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Most certainly.’

Thank you.

(To someone in the hall): Yes, sir.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Do you know that a doctor Salomo in Amsterdam ...’

Salomons.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Salomons.’

A brother of his is sitting there, over there, he can tell you a lot about that gentleman.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... that this person can fight cancer as far as the third grade?’

He is busy, yes.

Mr Joost is sitting there, he is a special friend of doctor Salomons, and he talks a lot with him.

But that doctor achieves it to there and there and there.

And further he is also powerless again of course.

But for the third and fourth grade doctor Salomons can free masses of people.

They also crossed him terribly.

They still destroy.

But they do not manage to destroy him.

Because that man knows something, he gives by means of his ...

That Salomons, do you feel ...

I would go and talk to that man. And if I were to say to Mr Joost: ‘Let us go together.’

Then I will explain that instrument to him which he is busy with.

Then I will start to combine that instrument one day with the cosmos.

And then Salomons will see ... then he says: ‘My God, my God, that’s it.’ He is also searching, this gentleman.

I will not go into it.

People recently said: so and so.

I think: Oh, man, you are messing aimlessly.

But you are going there.

I am becoming tired of it, because you are dwelling upon this.

But I would be able to explain the instrument to him and Salomons for which they stand, what they achieve with regard to cancer, the body parts, and with regard to the instrument which we talk about in ‘The Peoples of the Earth’.

And, you will feel, an instrument comes there, which is now still a diathermia, but which will soon be influenced by the astral spiritual fluid of the cosmos.

You are connected to nature and you do not need anything else, because that power of nature purifies you of its own accord.

Salomons is not doing anything else but killing the cells as core, as disease, the rotting.

Isn’t he?

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Exactly.’

Do you see?

And I can not only explain that to him in the first grade, for the fifth and for the sixth grade, but I can explain it to him materially, and explain it spiritually.

And I can explain to him, mean to say: physically.

But now the life, how does the life work on the cancer?

We are life, aren’t we?

This is life. But this life thinks through me.

And now I can explain the cancer to him as material rotting, I can explain the spiritual rotting to him, how that works, and then we go to the cosmos.

This is cosmically deep.

This gentleman is intensely in contact with Mr Salomons, and that doctor Salomons achieves a great deal, but the university does not like him either.

Do you see?

He is just a bit too far.

Everything which goes a bit too far and the university itself cannot understand, is broken.

They do not only break me.

There are enough psychiatrists who made a bet in 1946, when we had the first lectures in Diligentia.

Then a book seller told: ‘Two people came here this week, who bet a total of a hundred guilders.’

Then one says: ‘In three months he will have talked himself to pieces.’

Then he says: ‘Oh yes?’

And then the boss of Mensing and Visser was standing there.

‘Oh yes, sir?’

He says: ‘If you want to accept what that madman says, sir, then he will still be in Diligentia in a thousand years.’

He says: ‘Do you mean that?’

He says: ‘We can start to get lectures there, because we will never make it.

But it is there.

Do you mean to say that you are here for the first time?

I am really walking in my reincarnation.

I am walking in this, I am also clairvoyant’, he says, ‘I also had that as a child.

And that madman also has that.

And I bet you a hundred guilders that you will still see him in ten years’ time.’

Now we have already been busy for eight years.

But he has lost that hundred guilders.

He says: ‘Just keep them, because they are no use to me.’

And you can carry on like that.

That Salomons too, that gentleman, that doctor, they will soon have to accept bowing, sir.

They will say to him bowing: ‘Oh, what a bother we were to you.

All the things we could have achieved.’ Won’t they?

Can you not feel the squabbling which there and here and there and there and there ...

Then you come with a great idea, a bit too far from this podium here, you have a pit, you drown.

Oh, sir, the whole university hits you there into a corner.

Are you child-like?

‘Just come to the office’.

Salomons says: ‘The ‘droodles’.’

And he continues.

And he has healed a great deal of people from the third and the fourth grade – he can now rap my fingers. But he does not heal the fifth, Mr Salomons is also powerless there.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘That is fatal.’

That is fatal.

Sir, now read my book. I am not a cancer specialist.

(Someone wants to say something)

No, wait a moment.

Read my book and then you should see, sir, how truly the masters explained that to us, cancer, the seven grades of cancer.

He says: that grade, that and that grade can be healed.

And Salomons does that and other people, medicines were also able to do that.

Salomons achieves something, because he penetrates the cell, in that and that grade of life, and kills it, and then it dissolves and then you get recovery of the organ.

But the fifth grade, he keeps his hands off that.

But I am from ‘s-Heerenberg, Mr Leo Joost, I am just a layman.

Do you see?

And it is as sound as a bell.

Isn’t it?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, because of you we can tell how that went.

It was in 1945, that I was busy reading your books for approximately six months ... ‘ Yes. ‘ ... whereby I suddenly got hold of a medical work, entitled: ‘The discovery and the healing of cancer’.’

Yes.

‘Now I was naturally exactly the same as the rest of the whole world, which said: “That man who wrote that, is mad.”’

Yes.

‘That was my very first impulse when I read it.

But when I opened the book – it was exactly at the part where it said that he was busy with the endocrine system, that means, the human glandular system which is in the human body, and purifies and brings everything into harmony – I read that this was the one by means of which he was capable of healing cancer, when he could reformulate and force this system.’

And that was Salomons?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘You taught us in the books ‘The Origin of the Universe’, that the main system in space is the so-called glandular system.’

Yes, the main one of everything.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘You called this the glandular system of space,’ yes, ‘and that the glandular system was also present in the human body exactly the same.’

Yes.

‘And because of that I knew that doctor Salomons was on the right path.’

Yes.

Sir, Leo Joost, I have had people, who had cancer. They were man and wife. And that man was against children.

I say: ‘Sir, do you wish to heal your wife?’

I say: ‘If you do not give her a child, she will get cancer.’

Then he laughed at me, didn’t he.

And then that womb goes wrong: pains pains pains.

I say: ‘Sir, give your wife a child.’

They should also hit men like that towards motherhood.

She had a child; gone disorders.

But she had got cancer.

Rotting came because of that.

Everything finished, everything works, all of this, all of that, a disorder too: cancer.

No: rotting.

Cancer, for the doctor.

Because the cells began to become infected and drain away.

She had got blood cancer.

Then she had a child; everything gone.

You see?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, that is precisely the strange thing.

Because he explains all of these things by means of the disharmonic working of the glandular system’, yes, ‘but I still wonder, with the results which he finally achieved over the years: is it actually not an insane world against which you must fight, in order to achieve something in this world?’

That man is the specialist in the world for cancer.

In America they are also already busy.

But Salomons, that man, he is a genius.

But did you ever experience in society that a genius is immediately accepted?

(Hall): ‘No.’

When Socrates began with these teachings ... He says: ‘How do you feel when you are happy?

What is feeling? What is happiness?’

Then they put a cup in front of that poor boy.

That already happened outside of the human being.

Do they accept this?

The people here on earth will have to learn everything which I tell you and it will become the teachings of the university.

Or will the psychologist not be interested later?

You have been on the earth for millions of years, and not for the first time.

Do people in Leiden and Utrecht, and wherever in the world, not need that as a university?

Do people not have to get to know the soul as a human being and the spirit and the life?

That is this study.

We have seen it ‘behind the coffin’ for gifts.

Is it not necessary then that the masters begin?

They must accept me, they must accept other people.

I certainly know that my book will go over the world.

But those Salomons, and for other scientific subjects, diseases, the doctors, and psychology is busy with that ...

Sir, do not go outside your gate and your law; there is the Supreme Court and it will rap your fingers and throw you out on the street.

That Salomons is filled with cancer.

Jurisdiction: you have one of those gentlemen sitting there, he does not know it.

Kef, arguments, jealousy, pride.

He has it, I do not.

And now they destroy a doctor like that who wants to serve.

We have a great society.

And the admiralty, in the highest grade too, likes that too, then they say: ‘Yes.’

If you now stand before a theologian like that, before the court, then I say: ‘Dirty idiot, can you still talk?’

‘What?

I am a judge!’

I say: ‘Well, honourable dope, is it good now?

Do you mean to say, sir, that you know jurisdiction, while you accept damnation?’

‘God damns.’

And then he puts his hands on the bible and says: ‘It is true.’

Well well well.

Do I have to wait a thousand years, while I know that God does not damn?

Sir, they put their hands on the bible and say: ‘Jurisdiction is eternal.’

And there, there was nothing else than slaughtering people in that Old Testament, and now they also put their hands on it.

That is the theologian.

Sir, it breaks you, it breaks me, because they love damnation.

And now the other sciences?

Galilei, sir, that poor Galilei was put in prison because he said: ‘Father’, it was pope Clemens, who was it? ‘the earth revolves around the sun and not the sun around the earth.’

‘Are you mad?’ he says.

Then the pope said: ‘We will be damned if we accept that.

You lie and you keep your hands off the earth.

Will you do that?’

‘Should I deny my science?’

Then they locked that poor Galilei up in the Vatican, in the holy city, he had to go to prison because he brought that science.

Oh well.

And now the rest of the world.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... the rest ...’

Do you think that is just, sir?

Mankind is not yet that far.

We should be pleased that we now have jurisdiction that far.

It has just happened, sir, and otherwise Jozef Rulof would have been burnt at the stake long ago.

The inquisitors are still walking around.

And if they cannot get me like that ... Well, they are on the look out.

There comes ...

Recently a blackcoat like that was walking behind me.

I say: ‘Go away, with your beard.’

I say: ‘Man, if I blow, I will blow you back to Rome.

Go away.’

Then there was a Catholic walking there, an old priest, he had a spiritual revolve in his pocket – do you feel – a spiritual revolver like that.

I say: ‘Do you wish to pop?’

I say: ‘Take your trousers off.’ (laughter)

He says: ‘What did you say?’

I say: ‘Take your trousers off and put on a dress, because you are no longer a man.

You are not a woman either for that matter.’

Then he says: ‘What?”

I say: ‘It is true, sir.

Good day.

I am going to buy cigarettes.’ (laughter)

Yes, madam, just make them ridiculous, because they want it themselves.

Did you have anything else, sir?

Did you have anything else?

We began with you, we ended up there, and finally I took it myself.

Do you know now what Salomons is?

If you write to him, say a hullo from a stranger.

But do not mention me, because ...

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Oh no.’

... because I am also a madman for Salomons.

It’s the same old thing.

He does not want anything to do with spiritual wisdom.

You see, if only he could accept it.

Ramakrishna tolerated ...

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

No, sir, that is not possible.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Ambition. But that must also be, because he has the mentality to be able to say to the rest of the world: you can all drop dead, but I am right.’

Drop dead?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘If he did not have that competition’, well, ‘well, then ... would ...’

Well, but he cannot accept me; he will go and have lectures there, from a layman, from Jozef Rulof!

I challenge all of them.

But, even if I challenge them, and even if I say to them: the Sun this and the Moon that and Jupiter this and Venus that, and it is like this and like this, they say: ‘Oh well.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But he has it from his wife.

His wife told him: ‘Would cancer not be this and that?’

Then he still did not know anything about it.

And because his wife said this little thing ...

Because he said at that moment: ‘Just go to the kitchen, because you know nothing about it.’

No.

‘And then it was two weeks later, and then it occurred to him, and then he thought: just let me have a look.’

So then that woman was influenced.

Because those Salomons are also helped.

But also that woman.

If they cannot reach him, then they take a chicken.

One morning a chicken wanders into doctor Salomons’ house and it starts cackling; he suddenly understands it, and he knows at once what time of day it is.

‘He is mad.’

I am, they say in ‘s-Heerenberg,  mesjokke.

But let me keep this, and he that, and the rest of the world their own, then we will be finished.

Ladies and gentlemen, it is time.

I thank you for your benevolent attention.

Good evening.

(There is clapping.)