Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I am strumming inside.

Who has some noise for me?

We will unscrew it. I will begin with: ‘What is karma exactly?’

From who is this?

(Lady in the hall): ‘From me.’

Madam, what is karma?

There are people who make karma of everything, but karma is: if you have to make amends to a human being.

So karma already dissolves in cause and effect.

Small things, lies, cheating and we will just live it up, that is still cause and effect.

But karma, direct karma is a law.

And cause and effect is also a law, but those laws – I hope that my friend agrees with me this evening – those laws have, you must listen carefully, to do with the human being, and karma directly with God.

If you experience karma, a karmic law, kill someone, then you immediately have the divine law in your hands.

But lies and cheating and just living it up, all those other things, they are cause and effect, and that is: the human being.

The difference between cause and effect and karma therefore means, that which we have in our own hands, and that which concerns the divine law: the birth, motherhood, fatherhood.

But only reincarnation is karma.

And karma is for nothing else, because that one law only has to do with reincarnation.

Do you understand this?

Can you now feel the wonderful difference between that which belongs to the personality, cause and effect, and karma? A karmic law immediately penetrates the life, by means of which we people got the life.

And that is the divine law; which we break by means of murder.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘We call that karman, Not karma, but karman.’

That is oriental. But we live here in The Hague and then it is called karma.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, ... (inaudible) but also karman.’

But karman, oh, that is a cart man.

I once talked to someone, sir – yes, I am busy with her, with this lady – then that man was also talking about a karman.

I say: ‘Oh, that is probably a man like that in the street who pushes a cart.’

I say: ‘Madam, no one understands that.’

Those Orientals are right, of course.

If you discuss karma with a theosophical Russian or a metaphysical Russian, then it is also called karma; but then it is in Russian, and we do not understand that.

But karma means: to break a law which connects you with the life. With the life.

And then we are faced with karma, if we take the life away from the human being, therefore by means of manslaughter and violence. Then you stand still, and then you must go back, and then you must give that life a new body.

That time which we take away from that soul, that spark, that divine self, we must give that time back again; and that is going from disharmony to harmony.

So we have already beaten ourselves out of the divine harmony by means of murder.

We did that ourselves.

But now you have hundreds of thousands of things and matters, characteristics; they have cause and effect.

We are standing here at the moment completely opposite our own cause and effect.

If you – you will perhaps not know that, of course not – if you have to do with murder, then the karmic law is connected to that again.

Do you understand this, madam?

Are there any more questions about this?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes. The more children you have, would you then have to make amends to more children?’

Madam, that more children, if you ask that ...

Have you read the books?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

If you ask that, more children, that takes us now to twenty problems, therefore other situations.

That is also connected to ... There are mothers who want to have a chid and do not get any children.

What is that?

This is a disturbance.

Because completely in harmony, now only for motherhood, that body must be able to give birth; but it does not work, that is therefore a disturbance.

A doctor says: ‘Madam, there is nothing wrong with you.

It is normal.’

Good.

The man examined her, everything is okay.

They do not get any children.

There are people in this world, who would like to have them, do not get any children.

Another mother gets ten, twelve of them.

You also get psychopathy there, you get sick children and healthy children.

And they are all problems and they can all be analysed.

But now you also get that the mothers – there you have it again – who do not want any children, and there are perhaps a few, ten, twenty, a hundred million mothers who do not want any children, who do not realise what they can experience by means of motherhood.

If also the rest of the world, as mother, was to refuse – do you understand this? – creation would stand still.

But we cannot get hold of that creation anyway.

Even if we do not want children, or we do want them – how many mothers chase that embryo away and just send those children away – that creation continues anyway.

And now we come to your question: one mother does not have children, the other one does, and she does not, and she does; you will feel, that is a great chaos.

That can no longer mean a divine harmony, because it appears here that the human being has the cosmos, the birth, reincarnation, motherhood and everything in her hands; the human being thinks that, because she can say: ‘Well, I do not want it, that is already gone.’

I talked to a mother, she says: ‘Yes, I must have a child, because I have already murdered eight of them.’

Under his orders, because he did not want any children.

But she got about seven, eight.

She says: ‘And what happens, happens, but I want to make amends.’

She had read a book, and it shot to her heart; then she says: ‘What happens now, happens, but I must have a child; I want to make amends.’

She had a child.

Good.

But those souls ... How many souls are not attracted, sent back?

And how many millions, thousands of souls, now you must listen carefully, perhaps a hundred thousand people – so we are now talking about souls, they are people who come back as a spark, embryo – wait between life and death, that is the world for reincarnation, in order to go to the world in order to be born, only just to be father and mother, because that takes us back to God, but they do not get a body, are not capable of getting a body, otherwise they would be attracted, but are already waiting thousands of years for a new birth.

You must feel that chaos.

And if you then look at the world, then you will see that today in The Hague there are perhaps five hundred have been sent back.

And now thousands of problems approach you.

And then you have, for example, before we go to the normal ... The Catholic church ... Priest, well, he cannot have children, but he will create. But how many women, how many nuns, how many mothers did the Catholic church not attract who refuse to become a mother?

And this is the most divine, most sacred, most blissful, it is not blissful, but the most wonderful thing by means of which we people evolve.

But they are now so sacred that they do not want to become a mother.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, but then they say that again to the parishioners, don’t they?’

Do you see? But I am not talking about that, what they say, that does not matter.

But it concerns this, those mothers also refuse.

And the number of mothers for space ... Another problem, and beautiful. We have here, for example, let us say, a hundred million mothers, and there a hundred million fathers, men. There are of course billions, but we will take a hundred million. And now out of that hundred million ten million mothers refuse to give birth.

And those men ... that harmony, that going back and forth, dying, being born, a chaos has entered that by means of murder – war is terrible – suicide.

Those people, those ten million, they have therefore cut the divine harmonic to shreds, spoilt it, just say, sullied, because they do not want to be a mother.

And what happens now?

Now there comes ... Really we would ...

I saw that, I talk from the core, I have seen those laws, I disembody.

What are we getting now? What did we get now, that you as a human being can ...

We are getting married, the mother gives birth to two children, for her one and for me.

Whether they are boys or girls does not matter, other children are born there, that harmonises itself of its own accord.

I come back to that harmony with her again. That harmony lives in the human being, but God and Mother Earth still has that harmony in its hands, otherwise – what I just already said, you can accept that – creation would be completely wiped out in say just fifty years, by us.

Now the mother must give birth to two children, for you one and for me one, in order to soon – you will feel that, that evolution continues – to experience that evolution, and then we will soon be attracted again.

Now that mother does not want a child; those nuns do not want children, they are sacred, good, they are married to Our Lord, that is already enough.

But you will see how fatal it is to be sacred here on earth and to ignore, to reduce, to actually crush to death the creating, the giving birth, the divine in us.

Now another mother must give birth to ten, twelve, fourteen children in order to give them life soon, madam.

Now you get my answer.

Isn’t it terrible?

Now the human being in society says, if you come there to people who have ten, twelve, fourteen children: ‘That’s another rabbit hutch.’

But woe betide, if you know what is happening.

That a mother is still capable of giving birth to ten, twelve children, that is already serving for the own grade.

We are connecting to a grade.

This is why I say, thousands of problems arise, and all those laws – they are all laws – have to do with that motherhood.

We are connecting to a grade, and that is logical if you consider: you have the grade for the organism, then we go from the jungle to the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org), but now transitions come to the grade, also in the white race again.

So we have perhaps six transitions in one grade sitting amongst us this evening.

Can you feel this?

So all those people, those men and women, have to do with a grade by means of which they represent their independence, as mother and husband.

And now it comes, now you are connected to my grade, in our grade, I do not want that, and now it is so wonderful, mother, that you give birth to twelve children there in order to keep that grade, otherwise we will wipe ourselves out.

And now the most wonderful thing for all of you: we can prepare what we like, and even if we murder and we commit arson, the human being himself makes sure there is harmony again. You are that, that is another who gives birth to those children for those nuns, otherwise those nuns could not come back again later.

Those children think, if they die here, then they enter heaven, they have lived well ...

If only they had done it differently.

Imagine that the Catholic church could accept this, that the nuns ... The highest respect for God is: give birth to children.

And now they make those girls sacred.

They just pray, they do good work.

But the most wonderful work which they can do, is to give birth to a child.

If you take a hundred nuns, then ninety-nine must return to the earth, because they are not a mother.

A human being – now you can establish that completely – a human being who, unconsciously or consciously, it does not matter, the life of feeling now reacts, absolutely, follows one line – that is also putting all the eggs in one basket – who follows one line, one path, and now accepts a sect, a religion instead of the divine cosmos, motherhood, can you feel, how pathetic, how poor that becomes with regard to God, Christ, universe, cosmos, macrocosmos.

Those people, those women put all their eggs in one basket, rely on one life, and neglect, destroy – you do not need to say mess up; yes, the life is messed up – absolutely mess up their life on earth as it were with regard to their evolution.

And now that one mother gives birth to ten, twelve children, fourteen, sixteen, only in order to keep the human grade going.

And now the human being thinks – and I wanted to tell you that – now the human being thinks that he can make and break what he wants with himself as it were; he messes, he does this, he does that. ‘I am boss over myself’, a woman says, ‘and I do not want any children. I want nothing to do with that carry-on.’

That is for this life, you can all play that.

But back to you again and to another mother: another must now make sure that she soon gets the opportunity to return, because they must return, just like those nuns, they must become a mother.

This life, however sacred, has been completely messed up.

Those people are standing still.

Is that clear?

Because we are in evolution when we possess the maternal organism, and give birth.

That is the whole macrocosmos, that is God.

But what it now concerns is this, now we can say, yes, I will do that, and I will do that like that, and I want to do that like that, but Mother Earth gives the human being the opportunity again to return.

And now it appears that it is not the human being who has will, and possession, in order to make and break what he wants himself, but the earth as mother attracts the human being back and says: ‘Hey, just wait a moment.’

So you do not escape – now we are going down again – that cause and effect.

Now you stand before the human character, for that murder, now that is karma; and as long as we live in a karmic law, so outside of our own evolution ...

We must therefore experience the highest organism that the earth can give her child, that is the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) or a coloured person, it does not matter, that is the seventh grade for the organism ... when we people as a spiritual personality have reached that body, as father and as mother, the earth releases us when we now – and now back to that – are finished with the karmic law, so when we ... the lives ...

And there are hundreds of thousands of them, madam.

Just believe that during those ten million, twenty million years which we needed in order to come from the jungle to here, to the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org), that we put hundreds of thousands of people there in the porridge pot, soup pot and made a tasty soup from them; and we did that there in order to eat and to drink; and later we started to shoot, shoot, shoot, so that bits flew off.

Now in society, now in this age people still murder and commit arson, and that is the only karmic law – now you have it again, sir, that is interesting for you – which the earth has in its hands.

And the planet now says, that is a power, that is feeling, that says to us: ‘Hey, just wait a moment’, and now we must return in order to become a mother.

And now we refuse motherhood; do you see how fatal this is?

We must return in order to experience the maternal organism.

As a man you cannot give a human being life, so if I deny you the life, I am now a man, then I must become a mother in order to give that soul a new body for the time that I took away from that life.

Is that not just?

And the earth has that as a feeling of power, as source, in its hands.

And if we have made amends for that, then we can leave for the other side with our cause and effect, then we have seven dark, unconscious worlds there – now just read ‘A View into the Hereafter’, and that whole creation lies open to you – then you get there what we call the hells, they are unconscious worlds.

And if you enter there, if you experience that, then you gradually rise; and we are busy with that; if you want to free yourself from that, then we rise out above that unconsciousness and go to the first sphere, and you also ask something about that.

Do you have any more questions, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, I would like to ask you, for example, the man to whom you are married, can you also have to make amends to him in a manner of speaking?’

Madam, there is no human being on earth who can say of himself: I do not have to make amends.

We are all up to our ears in misery, spiritual and physical.

And if that misery is not there ... We do not have a paradise now in any case.

But no human being is free from cause and effect. That does not exist.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, but they think lightly of it who ...’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘That you have those people and they must live it up and they appear to not have to still make amends to anyone.’

Oh, madam, there are people here who are beaten and kicked and say: ‘I do nothing back.’

But soon, madam ... We were all demonically wild, and that is still not so long ago, so far behind us.

But we were all unconscious.

I already say, we have put the human being in the soup pot in the jungle and committed cannibalism, and a while later, which I saw there and liked, I twisted off that head.

And now we are in a society, and we stand, let us say, before cause and effect.

You are not understood, you are beaten, he does not want this and he does not want that, and that man hits, or that wife does this.

Madam, every human being must make amends for every wrong thought.

(Lady in the hall): ‘There appear to still be some, who are still not even up to it.’

No, of course not.

Of course not.

If something happens tomorrow and we lift a hand, we take a revolver and shoot wildly, then we will be even further from home.

But we come that far.

And every human being stands before those cosmic divine laws, and that is: love everything which lives.

And they must begin sooner or later. But now they still flatly refuse, now they do not do it.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Nice if you still have to do with that.’

Yes, and we have to do with that, do you see?

But I believe that we all have a little bit to do with that, it is the whole society, you are certainly not alone.

Do you have anything else?

Just have a think, then we will also get something else.

Who has any more questions?

Sir, do you still want to go into karma?

Do you understand it now?

Well, if you can accept it.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I know what you mean, but I do not agree with it.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): “I know what you mean, but I do not agree with it.’

You do not agree with it, of course not.

Well, that is a pity, because then I cannot say anything else.

This is why I say, theosophy and the Rosicrucians also have it I believe, there are more sects: that is karma karma karma karma karma. But they do not know what karma is.

I asked master Alcar it and he says: ‘Just go along, then I will shove your nose in it.’

And he shoved me with my head in it.

He says: ‘Look, only murder, the rest is cause and effect.’

What must that karma still serve for?

Do you see?

Everything which we people have in our hands, which we have in our hands ...

You do not even have karma in your hands. Karma means: an imposed punishment.

Can you, and do you want to impose a punishment upon yourself, consciously?

You cannot even do that.

You can say: ‘Now I really want to just die’, but it does not happen.

You really want this; it does not happen.

That proves that you can live and can think for yourself, but when the karma is materialized, then it goes straight to the power and the strength which Mother Earth has in her hands.

And the rest has to do with ourselves and is now called: cause and effect.

And hundreds of thousands of things dissolve there; not murder, but theft, lies and deception, harshness, hitting, kicking, sullying and on and on.

You can take the whole dictionary for this.

And Christ only said: ‘Do not kill, because you will be killed.’

But He could have added: ‘Or you will have to go back to the earth and then you can make amends again.’

We cannot escape from this.

And this is why – we have already discussed this – we people live here too long on earth, we could have been back on the other side millions of years ago, if we had followed and experienced the laws harmonically.

Is that not honest?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The reasoning is water tight.’

That reasoning is water tight.

And it is true.

But, if I say to sir: ‘I saw that’, then he says, ‘Yes, I must also see it.’

That is what Jerusalem experienced, sir.

That he says: ‘Well, you could have scratched in that yourself.’

Now this then: Christ met someone who said: ‘Well, I also saw someone recently and he said: “I am Christ”, and You are also it; there are already two of them. That is not possible, is it?’

Look, believe ...

This can no longer be believed; what I say about the cosmos, about reincarnation, about hells, heavens, attracting, motherhood, fatherhood, reincarnation; I saw those laws.

I have everything by discovering.

I am not standing here blethering about a teaching.

I have not taken anything from theosophy, I was not allowed to read it.

I have never had a book about theosophy in my hands.

I have never read the bible either.

Sir, if you dare to, then you can ask me the questions; then I will take all the mistakes out of the bible. What is that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘That is a great pity.’

Why?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Because the core of the bible ...’

Oh, sir, how far from home you are again.

Look, master Alcar said this ...

Yes, you will not come further.

You see it, always this and this, they are those restraints for yourself.

I will go into it, but I will not do it again.

Look, master Alcar, the masters say this ...

I say: ‘Why is this?’

‘Do not read, because we will show you the pure bible.’

And then I saw the other side and then I knew the bible.

Then I saw the hells, then I saw the bible.

Then I saw the beginning stage, when Abraham, Moses and the others came to the world, we went to the world of the unconscious and I saw, I experienced that moment.

Master Alcar says: ‘Just go along, we will experience the moment when Moses was attracted to earth.’

He says: ‘Because you will not believe, you will ...’

Now I know the whole bible.

Then sir says: ‘That is a pity.’

There is something in it about love.

Master Alcar brought me to the Divine all, to the All-Consciousness.

I saw and spoke to Our Lord there three times.

You certainly do not believe it, do you?

I already saw Him as a child. I told the people here: you can listen to Him at any moment, if you just do that and that and that.

But the Omniscience ...

If I asked those masters something who went with me to that space, then they say: ‘I will go to that law.

That is life, that is soul, that is spirit, that is a part of God.

And remember: my word is law.’

Master Alcar can say, along with master Zelanus and all those other masters: ‘I am an Omniscient for this space.’

An Omniscient.

And then I must say: ‘That is not possible, is it?’

Then I am out of it.

I will never get contact again. I will get nothing else.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘As that bible, in that Old Testament, gives us, there is no love in that, is there.’

Phew.

That is so satanic, that they place that in God’s hands. Because God never did that, that is all the work of people.

God never spoke as a human being.

And he talks there day and night.

He has an argument with Noah about three barrels of brandy.

‘No’, he says to Noah, ‘you will just get three of them.’

Noah wants five of them, he says: ‘Because I have an appetite.

You can do everything with brandy’, Noah says.

But he just got three of them.

And that is God?

God walks there ...

Did you see the film ‘Grassy meadows’ (‘ The Green Pastures’, 1936)?

Then you see God, that is very nice, like a big nigger. And he comes on Sundays to look at earth, and then a boy and a girl are sitting there in nature and they are playing.

‘Do you have nothing else to do?’ God says.

That boy does not see him of course.

But you see God everywhere, in a black suit.

The ministers really let rip that that film came, but that film is priceless.

You will see it twenty times.

In heaven they smoke cigars on Sunday costing a quarter and they are fishing, and then a little Negro got a fish bone in his throat and then he got a spanking.

Ha, you will laugh yourself silly. But it is true, you know, because with that they wanted to show the naïve part of the bible, in the beginning, to a certain extent.

And they spat out that film, but the people could not be stopped.

It ran forty times in one cinema I believe.

Look, the human being wants to know, and the human being will know.

And we got the science thank God, we got the masters. I did not ask them and I did not search for them, they came to me and said: ‘We will bring you to the laws.’

And now we will continue.

I have another question here: ‘Seeing again, is that only when you arrive in the spheres where your loved ones are?’

Madam.

‘Seeing again, is that only when you arrive in the spheres where your loved ones are?’

Why must you be on the other side in order to see your loved ones, madam?

Do you feel that here ... That is in general all the thinking of the masses.

The human being thinks that he must be in the spheres in order to see his loved one.

But that is not true.

That love is here.

Because if you do not have that love here, then you will not get that love there either.

And then you will think: but if I am then beaten and kicked here, and all those other things, when will I get that then?

That is in your hands and is up to yourself, if you possess that happiness; yes, truly, then we can speak: ‘Behind the coffin’ you will get to see your own situation.

But this question refers to many questions.

‘Seeing again, is that only when you arrive in the spheres?’

There is barely one human being on earth of your own grade of life – and that is millions of people – whom you do not know, have not experienced, whom you were not a sister of, were not a brother of, were not a father of, were not a mother of.

There is almost no one in that space whom you did not carry and give birth to.

You have been a man, you have been a mother, thousands and thousands of times.

And now you get one core from all those times of love, to experience and to see problems, one core.

And that is what you are concerned with?

With that one core?

The masters call that the twin soul, but that is the part of yourself which is now walking round somewhere on earth.

Do you have that part with you?

Now, that is perhaps one in hundreds of thousands who possess that.

There are people who already really have that on earth.

Because then that means, now it will come: from the Moon – because we already started with that destruction on Mars, and on other planets, and now on Earth, I already told it a moment ago, what did we not do?

And now, it is natural, that I am attracted somewhere from that world and I must let go of the part which belongs to me – that has already been cut to shreds – because I have something to do there and there and there, and you too.

And if we now want to have that cosmic feeling of unity, then you must irrevocably meet that part of your life as a man or a woman and then you will really have cosmic unity.

That happens on the other side.

And because the people do not have that here, that also means: we ourselves have, we can just say that we kicked ourselves out of that divine marriage.

Because marriage is the most wonderful thing which exists, by means of which we experience God and represent God, in whatever situation.

And now we have made cause and effect and now we separated.

That is already millions of years ago.

And now the human being on earth is busy expanding himself, the human being is busy giving himself feeling, and mainly only for that reason, to take back to that own part. And that is a part of my soul, of my life, of my spirit – not of my personality – because that part also has to experience the laws and must master the macrocosmos.

If you experience that, ladies and gentlemen, and you stand before that, then that whole cosmos in you will burst open, because the life of feeling in this is infallible.

But I will also tell you: it is one in a million people who experiences that, who is therefore spiritually conscious in everything here.

Because you have the pre-animal-like grades here, the pre-animal-like human being, the human being who just lives it up, who murders and commits arson and does what he wants, those people have also already touched each other and are one in feeling, in colour, in their situation.

But we are concerned with that one feeling, that one happiness.

And that is truly not the first sphere, but you can already experience that here.

Do you understand this?

If you experience it here, yes ...

We have after all ...

I could write a book about this, this is so wonderfully deep. Not so deep that you do not understand it, but I mean, there is so much attached to this, because you can take care of the whole misery of society and the whole world, the whole of mankind by means of this.

And you will feel what kind of book that will be, if you want to analyse this question spiritually, physically and cosmically.

It is so deep.

Why?

Because every human being has sullied his own core.

Is that true?

Every human being has cut his own divine attunement to shreds.

And if you already have a bit of happiness here, and you already understand the human being and the human being understands you, my God, my God, that is the most wonderful possession which you can experience, because they are foundations upon which you stand; or your blood will flow away, you will become lifeless, you cannot compete with that breaking.

And if you have the understanding here, people, then be grateful for it if you sit here together and you read the books together and you want to expand together.

We have them here going home and sleeping hand in hand. ‘Goodbye, child’, hand in hand they make the flight in their thoughts; they are blessed people.

There are truly already people who have spiritually and physically, therefore materially, here on earth, an understanding, which is so striking, so remarkable, which makes you tremble and shake.

Those people can cope with everything, because they walk consciously in the happiness of the macrocosmos.

And that is man and wife.

And then life is a paradise, even if you live under the ground.

Even there is beating and kicking to your left and right: you live in quiet, peace, prosperity.

Do you know what it is, what it means, to be understood by the other human being, man or woman, to be taken care of, and you have the same thirsting, the longing?

We have some here, and then the woman here can, and then the man can say here: ‘And what was it like? Tell me.’ And then he must go and sit down, she makes tea and then he lights his cigarette, and then they talk.

First you get that spiritual awakening, that spiritual thirsting, the thirsting for knowledge.

Both lives are already busy enriching themselves.

My God, my God, do you feel, mothers, men, how beautiful a marriage now becomes?

We have no ignorance.

If you are now a Protestant, or you still have the bible, then you already do not come to the pure state of purity because of your ignorance.

Why can you experience this happiness?

A Protestant cannot do it.

Yes, they can love each other so much, then that loving and that love is only just a little circle.

Do you accept that?

Because if you stand on damnation, and they do not know it, then they do not have any expansion, do they?

You know that you will soon see each other again.

You know irrevocably that you will meet your own feeling and personality one day.

And then you will stand before your divine happiness.

Nice, isn’t it, madam?

What do you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

You would want to weep from it, don’t you think?

The human being devotes everything for that.

And we, the whole world is only concerned with that core.

And why does the human being separate?

Because the human being does not know.

I have had people visit me, madam, then that husband says: ‘That is a wild cat, that one of mine.’

I say: ‘Just send that cat.’

A lovely lady comes in there.

I think: how can it be?

I did not tell that lady of course what he said: ‘She is a wild cat.’

I say: ‘Madam, how beautiful you are; not from outside, but from inside.’

I say: ‘And your husband ...’

‘Yes’, she says, ‘what did he say?’

I say: ‘What use is it to you, madam?’

I say: ‘Just go.

Just keep quiet, just say nothing, then it will be okay.

Just let him come back.’

Then I took him in hand, I say: ‘Do you want to see that that wild cat is suddenly different?’

I say: ‘Then you must begin to not play tiger and lion; you are a snappy person, a braggart, a boater.

You think that you can buy a mother with only money, and with a dress.

No, sir, you will sit down, and you will look at her, and you will talk.’

I say: ‘You are a big shot for society, but for above you are worth nothing, not a cent.’

I say: ‘She is such a beautiful person inside, but you have never yet got even five grams of feeling from her.

You have never yet even given five percent of your loving feeling in order to experience that beauty, because she, in her life of feeling, says: I am not available for a wild animal.’

There sir sat.

I said: ‘You like Paris, but what you see there, lives in your own house and is much nicer than that.

I say: 'That is a mother of your children.’

I had to shake that man awake from off the ground and show him who he was.

I say: ‘Now just keep your mouth shut.

You will keep quiet.’

I once told you one evening.

‘You will keep quiet.

You will only say ‘yes’ and you will analyse something.

When she says: ‘How was it, is it raining outside?’ then you must begin really courteously, with a lot of interest, by saying: Well, child, yes, according to the academics’, if you do not want to act the academic, then you will say to her courteously, humanly, manly: ‘Well, it look reasonable.

We could get nice weather.’

And now you will discuss things, you will talk about the life, sir.

You will sit down.

You will pay attention that a deity lives there.’

I say: ‘If you want to have that woman back, then you will get her back within a fortnight.’

For four years they had been kicking up a row, they dragged each other by the hair through the house, threw things; lamps broken, porcelain broken.

He says: ‘We want to do it one evening with a lovely glass of wine, but five minutes later the bottle of wine already flew through the mirror.

You can no longer talk with that.’

I say: ‘Sir, you do not even sit down.

You have been socialized.

You have nothing more.’

Then he became quiet.

I said: ‘You want happiness.’

He says: ‘But that was wonderful.

How can a human being suddenly be broken?’

And it is true, I talked about it here in the evenings.

But will you remember that?

‘When we began to coo’, I said, ‘then we do not see any character’, madam, ‘but Mother Earth awakens in us.’

Even if she is walking with such bumps in her face, so big, bent and squint, if it is her, we will coo.

Won’t we ...?

Yes.

(laughter) Then we will coo.

But that feeling ...

A human being, for example, who comes to me, just like that gentleman ...

In four months a human being is destroyed.

‘That is not possible and does not exist.’

In four months a human being is worn out.

‘It does not exist.

It is not possible.’

A human being is cosmically deep, a man and the woman, but especially the wife, the mother, is awe-inspiringly deep.

And in four months, Mr De Wit, a mother is completely finished.

Yes, you cannot live with hyenas, of course not.

But if the human being wants, then it can happen that a very new world awakens.

I only said to those people: ‘You keep quiet.

If it is about something, do not talk, you will keep quiet.’

Then I had to teach them to think as you teach children.

And after four days he says: ‘My God, my God, what happened to you?’

Then they did not say anything for a while, then they felt their own silence and then they started to have a nice talk. And after four months they went to the Riviera, then they had got a new life.

I sent them away; but, for their own money.

(laughter) But they came back and said: ‘God, what is the matter with you ...’

I say: ‘Isn’t it wonderful?’

They went into one hotel after another.

I followed them. I say: ‘How can it be.’

How fortunate that you can give a human being back happiness and himself.

I put together twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, sixty like that.

I fought for them like a devil in order to keep them together.

I had them left and right, of sixty, of fifty; left and right she sat next to me on her knees, and he next to her.

I sent them back to paradise like two little ones.

But I was standing in the middle of it.

Not as a life tree, but I was hissing.

I say: ‘And now go.’ And then they become small again, then they become beautiful again.

‘We do not understand each other.’

Do you want happiness, do you want life?

Back.

If you are then churchgoing, Protestant, and you have thousands and thousands of things and you have not finished one of them, then there remains in us: the why and the why; and the yes, yes, yes, indeed, but you must just prove that to me.

Then the woman cannot prove anything to the man, and the man cannot prove anything to the mother, we do not have any feeling for each other, and no love.

Now you must begin with the first foundation: accept this life.

And if you then want to experience that ultimate, madam, yes, that will take a while of course.

I can still do it spiritually and then you will see what remains of it.

Then you can also see ...

I will also tell you something nice this evening.

Everything which you now experience in this life, ladies and gentlemen, that is just received goods.

That wife whom you now have and that husband whom you are so crazy about, does not even belong to you.

Perhaps.

He could already be it now.

But do you feel what is in that?

I experienced people, who are now on the other side, about which he said: ‘I do not want to lose this dear soul for any cosmos.’

And I saw him and I saw her again on the other side and I had to ask her through the master: ‘Is he still here?’

‘No’, she says, ‘he belongs to another.’

I say: ‘And can you do that?’

‘Yes, indeed, because my life is approaching and will come.’

Madam, if you say to me: ‘Oh, I love that life so much’, then I will prove to you how deep your love is.

And this is still just social, this is just earthly. But now we go to the other side and then it could be that those who belong to you still live in America or in France or somewhere else. But one day that life will come. And those whom you now have, you can love them a lot, yes, indeed, you must too, but that is obtained possession from another.

Isn’t it honest?

And you will gladly distance yourself from that, because you will get your own life of feeling back; and you will feel that, that is the white of the white, and the yellow of the yellow, nothing can surpass that, you will get to see and to experience your own life and finally, madam, all the millions of us will be completely like one mother and one husband, one life, one feeling.

So it will all be okay.

Any questions about this?

I have a few more.

Oh no, it says here: ‘Seeing again, is that only when you arrive in the spheres where your loved ones are, or immediately when passing on?’

Can you feel, this question ... ‘or immediately when passing on?’

I have talked and talked and talked to people and they lay so terribly far from each other.

Then that man says: ‘For goodness sake, as long as I still see her when I come there.’

I say: ‘I can give you that just like that.

I can give you that.’

I say: ‘I will not give you it, because you must fight for yourself.

If you bow your head to everything, even if you think you know better, and yet can accept, then she will get the opportunity to visit you soon.

But if you cut her off’, feeling, understanding, harmony, love, you will feel, that cutting off is in the personality, you do that with your life of feeling, with your love, ‘then you will not see that human being.’

The people with whom you are involved here, you will see all of them again soon.

I will see all of you.

And not one can escape me, I will see all of them. And I will see all of them on the other side, because I am involved with you.

We are not strangers to each other on the other side.

There is my child, and there is my mother, I am a child again, I am a father again, and just go on like that.

We have become one life in that time, in that world.

And if you then arrive there, then the first thing you ask is – that core lives in us, of course -: ‘My husband? My wife?’

Now you stand before spiritual, spatial, cosmic laws.

And then it emerges: ‘Are we in love, in harmony with each other?

You will feel, they are worlds, worlds.

Do you understand all of this?

And we must master that, madam.

And whether you like it or not, you do not feel like reading, you will soon stand before the laws anyway, because we all go here, which the human being calls, death.

Now people still have airs, soon he is all awry, is a bit pale, his eyes are closing. Someone is next to him and he hammers a pin in there and there, he says: ‘Death is death, you will go into the ground.’

And then you can say: ‘Yes ...’

There are some who still put up two fingers: I want to be right anyway; but, death is death.

And then another law will begin and it will tear us apart.

Now our cause and effect dissolves.

If we have to go back to the earth ... you should listen, you should start to feel; you love one life, you must also be able to love one life here, but that love must radiate.

You must be able to love everything.

That does not mean, I always say, that you must start to support the beggars and everyone at the door and here in The Hague who cannot make progress; you cannot do that anyway.

But then we come back and then we stand again as a new personality on earth.

We will come soon to growth again, we are a girl or a boy and we begin to coo again.

Someone else.

What happens in this life?

The human being feels small, the human being has complexes, inferiority complexes, but the human being is so awe-inspiringly deep and great and powerful.

If you just want to see and to experience that power and that space.

If you can remain standing here in this life, and you are beaten, even if the blood runs away, then there are millions of mothers and fathers next to you, behind you, where you are; the deeper, the more real the battle becomes, Christ stands right next to you and says: ‘I am also here.’

If you hold onto that and you do not succumb – that means, we will not shoot back and hit back and throw back – even if we are kicked and beaten and sucked empty, tortured, then we are busy getting that one for that world.

And that of mine, or that other one who belongs to you, and to him, and to me, she says: ‘Well done.

Fight that the bits fly off, but do not hit back.’

Do not hit back, just bear it, otherwise we will never work it out.

It is true, you will never make it if you bite back.

Here on earth you love, you are married, you have children, but for the whole of society ... Now you must consider how childish society life is, the unity of a people.

A Catholic considers me a demon.

For Rome I am a heretic and a devil.

For every other faith I am an insane person.

There are enough amongst them, who would want to burn me at the stake.

And they must love me.

I also love them.

I only want to make them richer.

Now we do not work it out, we cannot go further either, because now society holds onto us.

Yes, those people do not have anything else, but you who read those books, who get space, also continue with each other.

And you are busy here making something of life, you can experience happiness every day.

If you do not have that, then you still live in cause and effect.

Don’t you?

But if you have it, and even if she does not yet want it and he does not yet want it, but you already have understanding ... Just be grateful if you see the man who loves the children, and she can bear it one day if you talk about that and that.

My God, my God, if you know and feel mankind and the human thinking – I told you recently – then you can just proclaim yourself sacred, incredible, because anyone who is already searching for this and thirsts for this and can accept, that human being is really beginning to work on himself, even if it does not happen quickly, but that human being is busy.

Don’t you think so?

You are learning ...

A few years ago I thought: I will stop.

I said that.

And if I say to master Alcar: ‘I will stop’, he cannot do anything more.

Because he has brought me through the cosmos and our work is actually finished.

He says: ‘That is possible.’

I say: ‘The people are not learning.’

But then I saw that the people are learning a great deal.

The people said: ‘Oh, how stupid those people are.’

But I had also heard those people talking two, three years ago, and they were stupid, and now they are starting to see the unconscious of the masses.

And they learned that from the masters.

Didn’t they?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Indeed.’

Ladies and gentlemen, we still have a few minutes.

Do you have another question about this?

Are you satisfied, madam?

(The sound technician): ‘You have a good five more minutes.’

Do you have any?

Then we have those five minutes.

(Jozef says to someone): Why do you not come in, sir and madam?

Should they be here, that lady?

Madam, just come in, you are not disturbing us.

Oh, just look, in the heavens you do not need to stand behind the door either.

Good day, Mr Luienweg.

(To the hall again): Are there any more questions, ladies and gentlemen?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof, may I ask you something?’

Yes, sir.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘With reference to those nuns, who start to feel so sacred: they probably continue that on the Other Side, a feeling like that, as also, for example, academics, artists who also made their way in the temple of the soul and look forward to that in order to ... their art, their science further ...’

I will help you quickly, Mr Götte, because we only have a few minutes and your thinking will take too long now.

Those mothers, that is a nice life which those people have, but I explained the laws to you why.

And out of the hundred there are ninety-five who must come back, and there are five precisely busy with that state, but have completed their cycle of the earth.

They came back to earth in order to do something here, have been released by the earth, free, and pass over into a faith.

So some come, also for example a cardinal and a priest and a bishop, who have been that far, a great deal must come back.

A pope who thinks that he will enter a heaven; but there is not one conscious for the first sphere ...

You perhaps find it terrible if you are a Catholic.

But the first thing which I asked master Alcar, was: ‘Where do the popes live?’

‘Just come along’, he says.

Master Zelanus received seven of them.

‘Seven’, he says, ‘whom I was standing next to.

And there were two whom we could take along to the other side and the rest had to come back, they immediately dissolved before your eyes.’

He says: ‘Two came there.

And then I began, I had the honour to convince that life.’

Now, he says: ‘The revelation in order to ... the highest authority ...’

It is just a sect, are you taking that into account?

The highest authority is raised up on the earth, but on the other side he was a human being who has achieved the highest for a faith.

But a faith is not God and not a cosmos.

‘So’, master Zelanus says, ‘now I started to talk to him.

We went back immediately.

‘You were born here, there you are ...’

Finally we came to ‘the coffin’.

‘You died here.’

Then that life could see how he died, and there was no damnation, and then it already began.

We could lay everything from that personality next to us and I laid the new foundation for that, the divine cosmic, new foundation next to it.’

Those nuns also had to come back, ninety-five of the hundred had to come back, but if you get a child like that who has therefore already been pure, yes, that child lives in the Land of Twilight or in the first sphere.

Because there is still a hatred, and there is still ...

They are not so sacred, because you must hear them amongst each other.

Then they talk about jealousy, and a hatred, that is more than appalling.

There are some who are so strong in remaining silent, that they ... one ... There are girls – I experienced that, you know, I am not talking nonsense – one of which said: ‘That bitch has not said anything to me in six years.’

Oh, what goes on there, that is more than appalling. But it does not concern us.

Because of that, that child cannot experience that first sphere, because she is not nice.

So she closes herself off to universal love.

She still has to learn love.

She must master love, and she has just put all her eggs in one basket.

And Christ says: ‘Love everything which lives.’

Now you must teach those people, educate them.

That is the nicest thing there is.

You meant that.

He is now at the end, a last breath and we will begin again.

We will soon get a new birth again, ladies and gentlemen, but first have a cup of tea.

See you soon.

INTERVAL

Ladies and gentlemen, we will continue again.

Before I forget, Mr Van Otterloo is here, our actor, you will surely know that.

I am also going to see him tomorrow evening. He says: ‘There is a drama in our theatre which we are now playing, and that seems Catholic, but there is a great deal of occultism in it: a human being who takes over the suffering and the sorrow and the pains and the misery of a human being and bears that completely.’

It is supposed to be a wonderful drama.

We all get an invitation from him, if you bring the money yourself.

But perhaps it is something for you.

(Lady in the hall): ‘What is it called, Mr Rulof?’

If you would like to stand up, Mr Van Otterloo.

‘The Length of the Posserloedaat, ladies and gentlemen.’

He plays the cad in that play.

(laughter) And if we are all there tomorrow evening, then it will be sold out of course, but then we will challenge him.

Just wait.

In the Kleine Komedie at the Spui.

It is supposed to be worthwhile, because there is a great deal in it.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘When is that?’

What did you say?

That also begins tomorrow evening at eight o’clock.

The door will open at half past seven.

The entrance fee is forty cents. That is not expensive.

(There is warm laughter) But perhaps it is something for you.

Are you satisfied now, sir?

But woe betide, if you do not do your best.

I have a question here from Haarlem.

‘If a child does not look like either of the parents, by whom is it attracted?

And who has something to do with it?

Does the character play a role here?’

Where does that letter come from?

Where is the lady sitting?

There in the corner.

There are twins and there are individuals.

That means, a mother gets one child, gives birth to one child, and two, three.

Now you have twins, they look exactly like each other.

I told it here and the doctor on the radio ... I explained that here years ago.

And recently doctor Storm was, on Friday evenings at a quarter past eleven he has ... Then he talks about marriage and about everything.

And then one evening this problem came.

I say: ‘I will be proved right.’

But I am from ‘s-Heerenberg, you see, and not a doctor.

I got it from the masters.

And now he was talking about the division of one cell, and they are twins.

But now another division comes, and another cell is released, and now they are twins, and the third one does not look like those two.

I will give you this example first.

This is now an own personality and can look like father and mother, but also not like them.

So those twins look absolutely like each other, or like father, and mother, it does not matter, but they absolutely look like each other and you see the family likeness of those two people, father and mother, again in them.

Another cell is free and does not look like those two, as those two, as like as two peas in a pod, but has an own character and a radiance.

And now you want to know: if a child does not look like the father or the mother, what is the law like now?

What would you think of that?

Which of you knows this?

(Lady in the hall): ‘That child could be placed with those parents in order to make amends.’

We are not talking about that, madam.

We are talking about: why does a child not look like father and mother?

(Another lady in the hall): ‘I do not believe that it matters much ...’

No, we are not talking about that either, madam.

It is about, the question is: how can it be that a child does not look like father and mother?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Karma.’

Karma again.

(People are talking at the same time.)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘At the moment that the fertilization was to take place, they were both absent with their thoughts.’

At the fairground?

(laughter)

(Sir continues): ‘ ... as a counterbalance that someone, a woman or a man who possesses more power of attraction at that point, by means of which the child starts to look more like one or another.’

Sir, I understand what you mean.

If we ... giving birth and creating ...

Now I will place you before the fact and then I will prove to you that you do not give birth and create consciously, because you cannot even do it.

And why can you not do that?

Yes, you can do it, it happens.

And that law gets materialization, but you are not one with that state.

One goes to the fairground, that other is counting, he is pressing a suit, she is busy with the hat or she must do something else on Sunday.

But now we assume that you really ... And then it only concerns this unity; that becomes love, doesn’t it, now you are nice, really nice. But do you experience that law?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Now, I do not believe that.’

I do not believe it.

No, sir, that is not possible.

Not even one percent.

You only experience what the earth possesses and your body, but you experience nothing yourself.

Yes, you experience something.

Yes, you would of course also want to know that from me.

(laughter) Now they are all chuckling.

Now we are in the familiar class. You experience something, you experience the division of the personality.

You divide yourself, you start with multiplying.

Didn’t I put that well, Mr de Wit?

God said: ‘Multiply.’

And you do that.

And that dividing is just like a thunderclap in space.

And you start to divide yourself.

That is the only thing which we people experience, because we do not possess any cosmic unity.

You do not even know that soul which is coming.

You do not know where that soul comes from.

Now there is something nice coming, madam. A father comes, and a mother, are both black and get a red child.

Then he says: ‘Is that perhaps that red one who used to always be a regular visitor of mine?’ (laughter)

Then she says: ‘Bastard, what makes you think that?

What a trick that is.’

They had got a red child.

Is that so strange?

That child, that was nothing like an Arabian, but it looked like one.

Red hair; the parents both as black as cork. Is a cork black? Pitch-black.

That face was very different, madam.

That face did not look like mother and father.

Then they did not know it anymore.

Then they did not know it anymore at all.

But it proves again that you do not remember everything anyway which I say.

I recently went through the whole family.

On Saturday morning I was talking to a tulip man who also comes to Diligentia, Arie, he grows tulips.

And then I explained the dimensional worlds of a tulip to him, the crossing of a tulip.

I can do that just as well as that man in Sassenheim.

I can write a book just like that, through master Alcar, master Zelanus, of five thousand pages, in order to analyse the hybridisations for daffodils, tulips and all the flowers, because we know the seven grades of space.

And then I explained different grades to him.

He says: ‘How can it be, because I must follow that path.’

I say: ‘But take into account, I am not an expert.

But I know the cosmos.’

And now you will get, I told that here, that great-grandfather manifests himself in the face of this child.

And she does not look like mother. Mother could have attracted that child spiritually; there is always a core there from those two, but it is hard to see, and it is now spiritual, that means, the life of feeling speaks to her from the face.

And that is now from her.

But great-grandfather has now manifested himself as material in this child.

Completely right.

Do you know it now?

(Lady says something)

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘You already told it.’

I have told you it here twenty times.

This is why I presented you with that question, because you could know.

But now someone gets, it gets red hair, and both parents are dark.

You should ask science.

They lose themselves in that.

It is a perfectly simple blood phenomenon, but also has to do with your own branch, let us say, your own family.

And if you go back very far, into the jungle, perhaps you will come across a red one like that.

And you say: ‘Oh yes, we used to only consist of red haired people.

That is also a piece of our Indian attunement.’

But do you understand this, madam?

And will you pass it on?

Oh, they can hear it there?

Do you have any other questions about this, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, Mr Rulof, I wanted to ask, there are still a lot ... children are born by means of the demon which lives it up in the human being.’

The demon?

It lives it up in the human being.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Can a demon live it up in the human being, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The human being who is possessed then.’

That is insanity. But we are talking about children.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.

But it also says in the books that so many children are born by means of those people.’

And what do you want to say about that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Can it also be that those children look like those people?’

Like the astral personality?

That is never possible.

That is not possible. (Lady talks at the same time) No, madam, because the core lies, lives in my embryo.

If the mother gives birth to the child and she has attracted it, then you will feel, then the child gets – it looks exactly like the mother, for example – then the child gets the face of the mother; it is of course different, but the face and the personality of the mother lies in it, because her life of feeling has laid this foundation.

If it goes through us, then the man remains – without the father knowing it, the man does not know that – without him knowing that, one with that life all that time.

But is that possible?

I am now talking about remaining.

Is that possible?

This is now deep. I challenge the whole world, which can explain this; it is cosmic, you can know it, but then you must be cosmically conscious, then a flash must enter you.

Everything, lady, madam, is so awe-inspiringly deep, you can enjoy this so wonderfully; I will do my best for it if you learn to think yourself and also ask those questions.

I said: the man remains one.

But is that possible, ‘remaining’?

Is that word ‘remaining’ appropriate?

I will just help you, you will not work it out anyway.

No, because that man had already been one for thousands of years with this life.

And is still one.

So the soul which we attract and which goes through me, that is not on the moment that I attract that soul; no, madam, there are still thousands walking round the earth like that with whom I am involved, and I do not attract them, I remain there, I am one with those people, because I have attracted those people into my life.

Isn’t that wonderful?

If you understand it.

Because just like that: I have attracted that child ...

Madam, we already laid those foundations in the jungle.

Isn’t that nice?

You must go back to perhaps the prehistoric age in order to free yourself from a soul which you already experienced there, and beat to bits and pieces.

That is not the child which comes just like that, because we were already involved with that life.

If we are not involved with that life, with that soul, that personality, then we could not even attract that life.

So we have already been ready for hundreds of thousands of ages, sir.

And that soul too, it irrevocably comes back to us one time, and gets my face, because I am involved with it and not the mother.

Now I will go further.

Recently I did not go so far.

But it is worthwhile.

If we were to give lectures now, then you will feel ... What you learn from a doctor at the university, a doctor who has to analyse a finger there ...

This is the absolute analysis for the All-Source.

Then you must follow all the grades and side paths and the possibilities and the future and motherhood and fatherhood, if you wish to be able to answer this question.

This is also a book of seven hundred and fifty pages if I wish to analyse that completely, every question is so deep.

But can you feel it?

We are reaching unity.

And now people say: ‘Did I attract that child?’

My God, you did not attract that child now, but you raped that child a hundred thousand years ago.

Isn’t that simple?

And now my face enters that life.

Why?

Because I knocked that life out of the divine harness then.

How simple again, isn’t it?

Did you have anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.

If the child does not look like them outwardly, but it does in character, does it also have to do with me?’

Now you get a child which looks like nothing.

And you must listen carefully, now only the birth dominates absolutely here.

If a child, if a human being comes back to the earth for motherhood, in order to be a mother, what manifests itself now?

All those characteristics of ours which have to do with the character – now you must listen carefully – they dissolve in one great deep wonderful source, and then you can still just see a very short phenomenon of that.

What is that?

You all know that, if you reflect for a moment, you will know.

Do you see?

Because that motherhood ... That cell suddenly changes into a woman, into a mother. That is a wonderful event.

If you are now a man and you have the creating face ...

I am always looking for the motherhood in me.

Then you come back again – you know that, you know it – and now you enter the mother again and now that personality changes and forms there the wonderful universal organism: motherhood, the maternal organism.

And now those characteristics dissolve, which also materialize and transform physically, infallibly give shape to the face, give a strength, give a radiance, that can happen infallibly ...

But that wonderful motherhood, that long hair which we get and those beautiful lips of the ladies, isn’t it so, those beautiful eyes and everything which is so beautiful, that now dominates the character.

Also clear?

Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, in The Hague I had a double, so the same’, yes, that is possible, ‘that the people did not believe it, as if it was family.’

Yes, a double.

In America they thought I was Paul Bunning. I say: ‘Well, Paul Bunning has a big nose and I have a snub nose, that is not right.’

But just look at how many people have a double?

And that is possible.

But why it is so rare?

(A woman says something which is incomprehensible)

What did you say?

Who said something there?

I thought you asked something.

It is rare, because otherwise you would walk past yourself every day here in the street.

Then they would even have put you in prison and you do not know it, because you are just at home having a cup of tea, but your second self was thieving.

Isn’t that true?

Just be pleased, sir, that we do not have many doubles, otherwise life would be dangerous.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Sir, but could that not be a twin soul of ours?

That we still have to do with that double?’

Madam, that is not possible.

But why not?

Just continue for a moment.

You will say, that Jozef Rulof.

I suddenly flash through the whole cosmos with your question.

That is now ...

I wanted you to get all of that one day.

I suddenly flash, through her question, through the whole cosmos, and then I can say: ‘It is not possible’, because the whole cosmos is now talking.

That is not possible, because I explained it a moment ago.

You should hear, adepts, disciples of the University of the Christ, you should hear, ladies and gentlemen, how infallibly deep that question also is.

It is not possible, madam.

But why not?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Because it is the same gender.’

It is to do with the gender.

You do not need to go through the cosmos.

But you come back again to the gender, to the own gender.

But not that question, I am talking about the question: Why does it happen so rarely that you meet your double, yourself?

It does not happen often, but let us say out of hundreds, out of millions of people your own image perhaps also lives.

And then you can say: Does that have to do with twin souls?

Then I said: ‘No, madam, that is not possible.’

Because you start to think: Oh, then that image looks like me, but I got my image from my branch, my family.

So I come straight back to my own little space and am free of the cosmos.

Understood?

Do you feel, that is not possible.

But why does it happen so rarely?

One in hundreds of thousands, one in a million people, it could be that you find yourself again there.

And why?

Because by means of all those situations, those thousands of different images, there is to a certain extent one which can look so naturally like you.

Because they are hundreds of thousands of different men, countenances, faces, and there is perhaps one amongst them who looks a bit like you, exactly.

Yes, there could be something wrong with that.

But like two peas in a pod, that is also possible, why not?

But it is rare.

And he has transformed himself by means of growth.

Can you feel?

Now we therefore get to see that universal soul, to see those masses of our grade.

And now something else nice comes to me: one day you will see your own image.

And then it is spiritual and cosmic.

In other words, I do not have my face as I will have my face – neither will you – on the other side.

I walked for about three weeks, recently I walked absolutely in my second self, my spiritual self, the future in a manner of speaking.

I saw myself there, I think: hey, that André.

I think: how can it be.

Then I went back to twenty-one, twenty-two, there I had, I believe for five, six months almost that face, just six months, then it had already gone.

Because I mean by this, that you will soon possess a cosmically spiritually true face.

Our face has been transformed materially and spiritually.

Do you not believe that?

You all radiate in your face as you feel inwardly. And do you wish to deceive me that you are cosmically conscious?

So the life of feeling, we talked about that a moment ago, creates and gives birth to the face.

It looks like the mother or the father, but you create and give birth to the face.

But according to your life of feeling you give birth, you create, the face is formed, the face radiates it.

Now I know a great deal, but I am still just a big ugly man, so that is not right.

(laughter) That cannot be possible, because ... Now, I am not such an Adonis either, say, let us be honest, that snub nose of mine and I am getting wrinkles. But that is old age, that has nothing to do with that.

But if you would want to see yourself ‘beyond the coffin’ ...

I also gave those images already, and then we would be talking in the evening about curls, the curls of the ladies, here they have a perm, and there they take care of them like that, but what does it mean?

If a human being ...

I want to give all the mothers the proof; I am a difficult customer, madam, if you have to do with me, then I do not look at your perm, but I look at the inner perm.

I say: if you gave those same colours and that same mouth and that staying power to that and that. Very nice, yes. You must not let it become dirty, but now you get the inner embellishment for the outside, the inner spiritual expansion for the material, for the action, the deed.

And then you will look, ladies, how you miss that perm on the other side.

And then you can go to a hairdressers there, but she will burn everything away.

You cannot get a curl in it.

Because that curl has gone, you have the same hair, but spiritually; because in these hairs of ours the spiritual source lives as hair, you have your teeth there too, your nails.

The human being is absolute.

When I began with the first disembodiment and master Alcar was standing before me, then I lay on the ground, then I began with the feet and then I looked at him completely like that.

I say: ‘Oh oh oh oh.’

And then you must see the mother, the mother from the first sphere, the second, the third, the fourth, the fifth, the sixth and the seventh sphere, a woman who lived here on earth and is now cosmically conscious in the seventh sphere, already possesses a universal, macrocosmic love, a personality, a ‘wings’, they know everything.

You should see that mother, men, that woman.

Now.

And then, Mr Berends, you get down on your knees, and then you may say: ‘Oh, Father, give me the strength that I do not think wrongly.’

Because then you will be standing before something sacred, something wonderful; because her hair is wavy.

You see, the ladies are laughing again.

You like that, don’t you.

Because that hair is wavy, the universe lies over that as a radiance.

And it is remarkable, they saw the Christ, but the Christ had spiritually wavy hair.

And He did not have them from a curl, He had them by means of His personality, by means of His consciousness.

The eyes start to shine, the hands become like statues, that figure, there is not a wrinkle, Mr De Wit, not a spot, nothing more.

We still have our hair.

But they perhaps hang so messily if we are there below, they have no hair anymore.

You should see the ladies down there in that darkness.

But then you should look at the gentlemen.

They have no feet, no hands, but claws.

Lips, you could put the globe on them, they have ... so many ...

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Kissed.’

No, sir ... (There is warm laughter.) No, sir ...

I thought that, I thought that ... (laughter) They did not kiss so many, Mr Götte, but gossiped and talked and deformed and squandered.

He would like that.

(laughter)

You see, the human being who does not understand this must laugh at that and will perhaps walk away.

But if you gossip about another human being, then you destroy something, you sully.

You may sully, I will never blame you, no one has been able to hurt me yet, you are doing it yourself.

So much goes over me, doesn’t it, I am a brute, and I do not know all the things I am, a boozer and a ...

Recently ‘I had been boozing so much in the city’, then my wife said: ‘When will it be over?’ Then someone came. Then my wife said: ‘That man was not even outside for two minutes.’

I say: ‘Well, yesterday, a fortnight ago I was like a watering can.’

I say: ‘Yes, from the flu.’

But if you fling all of that at the human being, you will have lips on the other side, sir, where no one will wish to take a place, but the animal-like carry-on from space.

Your head, your face will not have any – now it will come, madam, you should imagine, ladies, gentlemen – your face will no longer have a normal, cosmic spiritual responsibility.

That divine by means of which we possess our face, that has been cut to pieces.

Every wrong deed and action takes away something of that normal, shining and deforms us.

Is that not clear?

Never gossip again, ladies and gentlemen, never think badly again about the human being.

I will make real children of you.

Recently when I went home then I thought: I have forgotten to say something to you, then we were talking about the babies, about the children.

But I will put a nappy on you and I will put my safety pins in it, and they will prick now and again, but leave it, you will stay away from them.

I will put the universal nappy on you this evening.

I will let you.

(Someone in the hall says something)

What did you say there, madam?

You see, they are now already busy with those pins.

Sir, madam, is it already pricking?

If you do not want that to prick, you will never get through it.

In other words, if you do not accept the law of life and death, you will be powerless again and you will take the universal radiance away from your face.

Nice, Mr De Wit?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof, without those pins it still pricks, also in our house. Because every time that we do something which is not ...’

Hey, then I will stand next to the gas stove of course.

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, ... (inaudible) ... in thoughts.’

Oh yes, if you then do as I do, and you let the milk boil over, you are growing, and you go to the room ...

I say: ‘The milk is boiling over.’

I say: ‘But it was so nice.’

Then everything was lying on the floor.

That does not work of course.

But back to business.

So if there is something wrong with you on the other side with your spiritual macrocosmic face.. That is your life of feeling which grows and gives radiance to your eyes, sir, and that feeling gives gentleness, benevolence, the loving, to your word.

Mr De Wit, are we finished with that if you do that?

Then your lips will not get such thickness, but a beautiful radiance and a beautiful line. Your nose – there is something wrong with me, because I have a snub nose – that will become a sculpture.

From your eyes the colours of the universe will radiate.

Fatherhood, motherhood, rebirth, reincarnation, the whole planetary system lives in you and you radiate that.

Your hair will be brownish blue or blond.

If you ... black ... Black is okay to a certain extent too, but then the blue of the macrocosmos will also be in that.

You would like to know that of course, what kind of hair you will have later and what you will look like and what the garment and what the sandals will be like.

Good grief, the sandals.

There are some walking there with such feet, with holes, holes in their bodies.

Guus Doré who drew in Dante was close by, but you see them completely bleeding to death (Gustave Doré (1832-1883) made illustrations for the book ‘The Divine Comedy’ by Dante).

Like jellyfish the human being lies there in the darkness on the beach; there is no beach, but they lie there like jellyfish, gone slimy.

Can we not make ourselves slimy, fester, on earth, in this society?

We do not fester, we do not materialize, we do not brutalize our characteristics, no, sir, we let them fester, we make diseases of them, we are spiritually sick.

You will sleep tonight, won’t you, Mr de Wit?

You are not afraid of me, are you?

Ladies, then the curl has gone.

The gentlemen do not have any hair. Yes, they stand ... Those curls from the jungle are not even there either, everything has disappeared.

We are physically and spiritually deformed.

Are you laughing at that?

The consciousness and the love makes a macrocosmic shape from the human spiritual organism.

I saw the, I saw the fourth cosmic grade.

If you then enter the first sphere, you will not know your mother again if she lives there.

You will not know your father, because now a beauty stands before you.

You see a mother of eighty, ninety, again as a twenty-five year old.

And those twenty-five years have an eloquence of space.

That face of before when she was twenty-five years old, was material, now it is spiritual material, you will not know that face again.

You will not know the first sphere again.

Now the second, the third, the fourth, the seventh ...?

I walked hand in hand with a mother on the fourth cosmic grade.

Then she says: ‘Experience me, child of the earth, because I was also there.’

Master Alcar and master Zelanus were ahead and then we went through the nature; the flowers, those incredible cosmic flowers which you see there, the giving birth, the orchid as big as a planet, in a manner of speaking, you can go and sit on that with thousands of people, an orchid.

I saw the mother of the fifth, the sixth cosmic grade, I saw the All-Mother as a human being.

We were conscious for three journeys there.

I saw the mother, saw the All-Mother, and the All-Man, as divine conscious people.

Those three journeys, first for the macrocosmos, we are going there now, they will come now, those lectures.

On Sunday you will get the spiritual and the material cosmos for the human being and then we will go from the moon, this universe, back to the Divine All.

And then we will go on the next journey – that will be perhaps about six, seven lectures later – then we will go from the moon, from the embryo, to the Divine All and then we will follow the development of the human organism.

I made that journey.

No Dante and no Blavatsky experienced that.

That is not boasting of me, that is only because I am in this time, I am bringing my own teachings, and those teachings are from Christ, they are from the University of His life, they are the people, the masters, who now serve for this age.

And our books continue to exist.

There are no spiritual and no macrocosmic mistakes in them.

Isn’t it nice, Mr Reitsma?

Now you must look at the mother from the second sphere.

But let us just stay with the first sphere.

You do not know how beautiful, how wonderful you are.

You cannot imagine that.

I will just let go of that lady from Haarlem, all the things we made of her, don’t you think?

That human being on the other side says: ‘Experience me’, and that is a mother. And then you go through reincarnation and they mean by that: be one with me and then you will see motherhood and then you will see the giving birth and the creating and then you will be faced with a macrocosmic motherhood.

Oh oh oh oh.

And we break our neck every day about: ‘I will not do it’, ‘It is none of your business’, ‘Just work it out for yourself.’

Oh oh oh, if I hear the human being talking like that, only just talking ... And then you should see, they also do it too.

That sleep, yes, we know it, they will awaken and a time will come, they will have to begin with it anyway, because we will release ourselves from this misery and then we will say it differently.

And that same feeling as character becomes a colour, a radiance to your self.

Isn’t it simple, sir?

You do not have a moustache there, gentlemen.

Why not?

Yes, something, something is dangling there like that, but then it has a different meaning.

You would like to know, but I will not talk about that.

I can also tell the ladies more.

Safety pins and hair pins and buttons are no longer necessary there.

You do not need to look for a hairdresser again, because your hair is always done, always fresh, lively.

Don’t you like it, madam?

You are out of the misery, because I already told it recently, we are spiritually a slave of this human organism, this body.

This body is beautiful and wonderful, but what is it now if you see the human being there on the other side?

Oh yes, I need glasses in order to see.

I have here ... Oh no, I must first begin here: ‘I heard about a case of a clergyman who after entering into his marriage he discovered that his bride was materially, physically bisexual.

Shortly afterwards the marriage was annulled.

Now my questions are the following: how does this material bisexuality exist?’

A disturbance, madam.

‘Is this only just a material disturbance ...’ Yes, yes, there is something more to it‚ ‘ ... or is this also to do with the past, so with the deeds of the human being in question in previous lives?’

That too.

‘Does the marriage partner of such a poor human being have the right to annul the marriage, on account of this fact, on account of bisexuality?’

For God you are justified in going here, for space you can immediately weep and you are responsible, because you will give birth and create.

But what is this?

Why is that mother bisexual?

(Different people from the hall): ‘The transition of the man to the woman.’

They know that. You see, between the third and the fourth grade you get the formation of the organism, then you go from fatherhood to motherhood and now there is no feeling, no feeling anywhere.

That means, they are neither father, nor mother.

But the whole world is this.

A hundred million people live in that state and are woman and are man, and are only mother and only father.

But why do you still have people who possess both genitals?

How?

Where can we get a hold?

Where does the hold now live?

Do you know it?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The wish of the parents perhaps, that they want to have a boy if that mother is expecting.’

No, a mother absolutely wants a girl.

Yes, she had a girl, good.

But there are more, who also wanted that, and they certainly did not get that.

No, we do not have that in our hands.

You will feel, that mother with her willing, she cannot reverse our creation, can she?

If I as a father absolutely want to have a daughter with my wife, then I am already outside of it, amn’t I?

But we have talked this evening about the power and the strength and the source, the All-Source which is Mother Earth; so the human being possesses that reincarnation.

And you can long as much as you like, but you can only just murder me in you, if you want to have a girl from me and I become a boy, I am a boy.

You can therefore not change that creation by means of your will.

You do not get that power in your hands.

Do you understand this?

But why is there a question here of bisexuality?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof?’

There is just one word and the word lives on earth, the explanation.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Can that woman not be one of a twin when she was born?’

No, that has nothing to do with it.

If you want to start to guess, then you will come to stand before wonderful problems.

There is just one answer; I already spoke about it this evening, but it seems that you cannot think cosmically spiritually.

(Lady in the hall): ‘The homosexual.’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘The homosexual.’

Yes.

No, madam, if we come from the male, then the human being is still homosexual.

Look, the cycle of the birth goes like this: here I am a man and then I go to here, five, six, seven times I have it, I get it, in the first grade; life, death, life, reincarnation, again.

I talked about transitions a moment ago and they also lie in the birth.

So I get here my first ... I come as motherhood up here, I now go into fatherhood, come back, here the homosexuality already begins, male; one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and now I am a father and I pass into motherhood.

So in the first grade we are all homosexual, that means – that is a dirty word (see article ‘Homosexuality’ on rulof.org) – we are all unconsciously mother and father.

Because we have not yet experienced the life of feeling of the maternal.

We must master that again.

And that is new for every grade.

It is also part of it.

But I talked about it this evening, there is just one answer: why the human being is ... It could also be a material disturbance, but is this a disturbance?

Is this a disturbance, if you are mother and father at the same time?

You are it after all, aren’t you?

Yes, so I say: yes, there is also a disturbance, but ultimately there is a very different disturbance, and what is this now?

(Lady in the hall): ‘A soul which does not want to be a mother.’

This lady has got it.

The soul which does not want to be a mother, a nun ... (inaudible).

Only just the Catholic church brings these laws.

The human being frees himself and releases himself from the giving birth and passes on and dies, and is not different.

There is no feeling to create.

And now nature manifests itself, but nature is not inspired.

Can you feel that?

There the source in order to be father and mother is asleep, the human being killed it by suggestion.

And now that creation continues and has no form of existence, no influence, and as a result of this two feelings come about at the same strength, because they both live in the human being, and then those two gender states emerge and are at half-waking consciousness in the human being.

Because they are neither man, nor woman.

Just a little bit, five grams, it is both childish.

Don’t you like it?

That goes that far.

Because if you ... and that is very simple, if I want to go into something, and I do not have the law that I take myself back to God, then I therefore go into psychopathy, that means, psychopathy is unconsciousness, and that is called another path for the other side and the cosmos, which is not a path, so I go to the meaningless.

And now you should see if a psychopath like that comes to earth.

Now, the human being makes his face so infallible.

And I am walking there, do you see?

By means of the nothingness, by means of letting go of the divine harness.

That fits again, that fits exactly with what I just said: if you not possess any inner love, for the other side, you will not have curls there.

But you can see from the psychopath (see article ‘Psychopathy’ on rulof.org), he deforms his own face, because that life just lived it up in ten, twenty, thirty lives and brought himself from the divine harness, the natural face, and thinking and feeling.

Is it not clear?

You can say more about that.

To all those questions there are really books books books books ...

I have here: ‘Someone can have committed suicide just once in all his lives, because if an inclination towards that was to come again, an inner strength would stop him from that.’

Yes, master Zelanus writes that in ‘The Cycle of the Soul.’

And on Tuesday evening, I believe, when was that, in Amsterdam ... or did I already talk about it here?

Did I?

(Lady in the hall): ‘On Tuesday evening in Amsterdam.’

Master Zelanus talked about it ...

Oh yes, Mr Berends, in ‘The Cycle of the Soul’ it says: if you have experienced that properly, then you will only commit suicide once.

If you have experienced it for a hundred percent.

But you do not have that.

That torture gives you so much, that you get a beating.

Yes, you know that torture, that is in us. But the deed changes.

And then master Zelanus said on Sunday in Amsterdam: ‘If you have hung yourself, then you will ... it in the state ...’

Before on a tree, or you can do it now too.

But in the prehistoric ages the human being did not kill himself, only now.

So, that already takes us to society.

But if you use gas, then the suicide is – if you want to lie under a tram – very different, and the suicide in the waters is also new.

So you can experience a suffering and a torture, by means of which that first suicide dissolves and you surrender yourself to another life of feeling, and then you just jump into the water, the nicest suicide there is.

Clear?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Master Zelanus says: ‘’I did not write about that, because then I bring the human being into too many laws.’

Look, they absolutely kept those books from the cosmos at that time.

Because cosmically they had every book ... ‘Masks and Men’ were written cosmically, for example.

But ‘The Cycle of the Soul’, ‘Between Life and Death’ are still for the thinking of the human being here.

But if you continue, then you are already in space.

Clear?

(Jozef continues to read.) ‘What is the situation now with Caiaphas, who twice in his previous lives ...’ There it is again. ‘ ... he hit himself?’

In one case he searches and thinks about the events on Golgotha ...’ Please. ‘ ... and hits himself.

And in the second case his inner life is attuned to the Christ, but his personality refuses to accept this, rages a battle with himself and destroys his life.’

Golgotha was God, Christ, faith, bible, but also his strength.

He later committed suicide for that.

But later Caiaphas became Hitler.

And by means of what did Adolf Hitler commit suicide?

Have you read ‘The Peoples of the Earth’?

By means of what?

I had contact with Adolf Hitler in 1935, and then master Alcar took me to him and then I saw his providence.

Who in the world could experience that?

I was the providence of Adolf Hitler.

Master Alcar says: ‘Do you want to be providence?

You should see how this soul deceives itself.’

And I descended and I say: ‘You are the evil, and I am the good.’

In 1935.

‘Oh, I hear the voice.’

Adolf Hitler was a great medium, but for the wrong.

‘I hear your voice. And what do you have to say?’

I say: ‘You will ... that and this ...’

‘Stop’, master Alcar says, because I had started to speak to him.

He says: ‘You can ... here in that life ... That life, we must stay away from that.

So you can start to talk here ...

Master Alcar immediately said: ‘Stop.

André, stay away.

Only Golgotha speaks here in this life.

Nothing can be brought between this.’

But he heard me; he was asleep and he heard me.

‘Voorzienigheid, ah, do you speak again (in German)?’

I say: ‘Yes, Heil Hitler.’

I put my hand up and said: ‘Heil Hitler.’

‘Ha, da ist ja alles gut.’

Alles war gut, yes.

Then he heard me and then he heard the other side and he heard thousands and thousands of people and that was the providence for him.

Then sir started.

He was attached to Golgotha, attached to mankind, Christ.

The Jewish race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) has to go to Christ (see article ‘Jewish people’ on rulof.org).

The Jewish race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) must go to the Catholic church. Not ultimately.

But if you want to exist as a race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) – I will tell you something nice here – then you must go to another faith.

Can you feel that?

Then your race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) dissolves.

But the Jewish child does not let itself be dissolved yet.

You see them gathering again.

But become Catholic and become Protestant, and you will no longer be a Jew, and you will have Christ.

And Caiaphas saw Christ for that purpose.

Isn’t it simple?

But then he came back, and mankind continues and develops – which is a wonderful book now, ‘The Peoples of the Earth’ – and slowly but surely you go to awakening, inspiration, to Christ, you stand before Christ again.

And now us.

I hit you, I deceive you, I lie to you, I rape you, they raped Christ, would you think that I will be released from you?

But now I raped the divine child Christ there and let him be deformed, I purely sent Him to crucifixion, would you think that I could get rid of Him?

And that lasted two thousand years.

Evolution continues. For the use, for the purpose of mankind that Caiaphas now gets up and wants to by force ...

He does not know why, but there is a strength in him.

Because Hitler was never cosmically and spiritually analysed. They now write books about him, but they do not touch that soul. Because they do not look ‘behind the coffin’ of Adolf Hitler, they do not look, they do not know whether Adolf Hitler ...

They laugh at you if you say ...

I have hundreds of peoples, doctors there: ‘Jozef, that cannot be any different, because reincarnation takes us back to cause and effect.’

That Caiaphas soon stands before Christ again; believe it.

And then, then he wanted – they were masters in that – to give the world the good consciousness. But every human being has his cause and effect, and the peoples too, but the people do not yet have any feeling.

He could have left it, but he did not have that feeling.

Germany was not ready either, there are no people spiritually conscious, or we would already have go to paradise by means of Adolf Hitler (see article ‘Hitler’ on rulof.org), and then Christ would have said: ‘You murdered Me, but I have liked it for a long time. Now continue in peace and quiet.’

But it was not possible.

Now he will begin.

But now suicide.

He committed suicide.

He first poisoned himself, and then he burnt himself, so he enters rotting again.

Do you say?

He enters rotting again, he lets himself be burnt.

He goes again ... but now by means of his will, to increase his power over the world, he therefore commits suicide for that.

Now it is not ...

We always enter suicide by means of weakness, by means of destruction or whatever.

So Adolf Hitler now went towards his own decline.

And he committed suicide twice for that purpose. And if he soon begins for the faith and he does not make it, then he will still do it also for the faith.

Do you believe that?

Do you see that?

Mr Berends, I hope that you are satisfied.

But I must stop.

But I have made it.

And in the second case ...

Yes, I was able to answer your question nicely.

Ladies and gentlemen, see you on Saturday evening, see you tomorrow evening in The Komedie, and on Sunday evening in Diligentia.

Did I give you something again?

(Clattering, people are talking at the same time.) Well, now just wait.

(Hall): ‘Sunday morning.’

Sunday morning, yes, of course.

Ladies and gentlemen, I thank you for your beautiful feelings.

See you soon.

(There is clapping.)