Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. You will already be able to hear it, my throat is in a mess.

I wish you for ... 1950 ... Is it ’52 or ’53?

(Hall): 1952.

... all the best, the best.

(Hall): ‘Thank you. The same to you.’

And hoping that everything will work out for the best, yes.

I will just begin immediately.

I hope that I still have my voice on Sunday.

(Lady in the hall): ‘I wouldn’t force it.’

Jozef reads out: ‘Sir, the last time you spoke about the serious difficulties which can occur between foster parents and an adopted child.

We do not have these difficulties.

This is why I wonder whether this child could be a reincarnation, a son of ours from a previous life.’

From who is that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘From me.’

Oh, madam.

That could be of course, why not?

But that would be a chance of one in a million that you had a piece of luck, a piece of luck.

Because look ... I can immediately prove to you that it is not the case, that you are now going outside your own karma.

Can you also feel that, ladies, gentlemen?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

That you go outside your karma. Because the lady asks this.

This does not exist, what you say there.

And why not?

Many people have read all the books.

And we are talking about karmic laws, that you have been here on earth a hundred thousand times, and that you have been a mother, father.

So you cannot actually be done with your being a child, we are all children.

Children do not exist, you are only concerned with adult consciousness, in that and that grade of consciousness.

You have animal-like grades, pre-animal-like, coarse-material, until we finally come to the spiritual grade.

And during those hundreds of thousands of lives we got to know people, also adult people.

Those births, that being a child, that all means nothing.

That means: they are old beings, those souls have lived so long.

So we can already put that child problem aside.

Now of course you heard something last week, and now you think: perhaps that could be a child of ours from a previous life.

And I also went into it for that lady who was sitting there.

But that is one in a million, millions, that you meet a life whom you knew and experienced.

But why is this the case?

If you have read the books properly, you can already give an answer, and that is of course irrevocably correct.

This can be one in a million, I say.

This could have been a child of yours, of course, but one in a million.

Why?

Can you also feel this, because that is attached to this question.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Because we have been involved with the people with whom we associate, that we were involved with them in our previous life.

So that lady who adopts that child, she had something to do with it in a previous life.’

No, no, precisely not.

Look, you have worked it out, and you put it aside again.

You say: ‘Because the human being was involved with that life, she adopts that child.’

No, precisely not.

Because karma lets itself be born.

And karma does not go there, and that does not perish.

No, a karmic law is the law for making good.

So that child will remain irrevocably with you, with you as a mother, and with me as a father.

But now there are mothers who put that child aside, or die, that is possible.

(Lady in the hall): ‘But that is an adopted child, isn’t it?’

So you can now say: adopted karma?

(Lady in the hall): ‘No.’

This becomes an adopted child.

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, I mean this: the people whom we meet or whom we associate with, our brothers and sisters, our fathers and mothers, I will just say, all those people, we have been involved with them in our previous life.’

You say that.

I say: here, in that state, the chance is one in a million that it is a piece of luck.

That means that we ...

That lady adopts a child, and now she asks: ‘Could that be a child of mine from previous lives?’

It could. But according to reincarnation and the karmic laws – not so simple – then it is just one in a million, because – I said a moment ago, and you will accept that – karma will be born.

That belongs to you.

So you can never ...

You will not get rid of that child; yes, it is possible, but then it is already a state which you do not have anything to do with at the moment.

That lady has nothing to do with it, this is karma from another, because another can attract that life and she cannot.

And the reality lies there.

Why does she not attract that life?

Or it is a karma from another. So she already steps into the karma of another, and cannot be attracted by her, so it is irrevocably not a life of hers which she has known.

Is that not clear?

You cannot get out of that.

And then you can say, yes, it is good, or, it is not good.

I also heard that role (audiotape) from last week, you can hear that twenty-five times; what a great deal of wisdom lies in that.

That lady whom I told about that adopting and not adopting of a child.

Madam, I can name ten, twenty cases for you which were ended at life and death, with murder and everything, by adopting children.

Because in the beginning you do not notice anything, that all goes well; but now they are getting old.

Recently – that was four weeks ago – a mother comes to me during the day, she had read my books.

She comes from Haarlem, is in The Hague, and brings flowers for the masters, because she is grateful that she knows the books.

She has a child, a boy.

That boy goes to the catechism.

So her adopted child grows up.

The mother wants to tell the child about things, but the child already leaves, does not want anything to do with it.

Goes to the catechism and tells what the mother is reading about.

Then the priest comes.

But meanwhile estrangement comes, because the priest ...

Father says: ‘Yes, the child must go somewhere.’

‘I could have let him become a Protestant.’

‘What would you like?’

And: ‘Mother, I want to become a Catholic, And, I want this, I want that.’

The child gets an opinion, and the child already leaves her because of the priest.

Then she says: ‘We approved of it.

My husband did not mind so much, he says: ‘Let us just see and let us wait and see.’

But now that boy has grown up, and he has come into the Catholic church completely, He started to feel himself, and then he says to the mother one morning: ‘I am going to the church and I am never coming back again, because I do not want anything to do with your heresy.’

And then he was influenced by that priest, he said that he was right: she was demonic and those trashy and rotten books by that Mr Rulof, and all that other wisdom, that was just demonic.

That boy was spoiled completely, in our view then, but for the Catholic church that mother is completely spoiled.

Then she says: 'And now I can ...

‘And then I also went to talk to him, and to talk, and it came that far, then I got a slap, right in my face.

Then I started to weep, and I am still weeping.’

And she stood there.

She says: ‘What should I do now?’

I say: ‘Just surrender it. Just let go.’

‘God’, she says, ‘my heart is bleeding dry.’

‘So,’ he says, ‘then you have something here.’

‘Now’, she says, ‘it still hurts me.’

Then she says: ‘Now he will never come back again.’

Now, then the Catholic church got a job for the boy, and accommodated him with other foster parents.

And if you hear the dramas, ladies, I will not go into them any longer.

But recently I told you ...

If you listen to that role, then you will say: ‘Good heavens, good heavens, how true that is.’

If you want to do all of that, and it is wonderful, then you must also never say later: ‘My God, my God, what ingratitude.’

Because ninety-nine percent more (in)gratitude came from that than happiness.

Other people – that happens every day for that matter – other people had pleasure from that, also later.

I even know parents, there the son became a doctor, that adopted child - he got everything, got everything – got a wonderful clinic, still supports those parents.

Yes, that is all there.

But, think about it, because this is certainly not so simple, at least not for later.

If you have the good fortune, and you attract ... and you have a wonderful child there with feeling, with life and with love, yes, then you could take on twenty-five of them, because then it is not a skill, then it happens of its own accord.

Doesn’t it?

Do you have any more questions about that?

If you listen to that role, then you will know it at once.

I have here: ‘A few weeks ago I had a dream twice close after each other ...’ We are going to the dreams again. ‘ ... in which I was constantly climbing stairs.

They are ordinary stairs, but they are steep, go straight up.

I have to hoist myself up as it were.’

Yes, we will ... that here ...

If you wish to compare that with life, then every human being must hoist himself up.

From who is that?

Then every human being hoists himself up, madam, and then our scrambling is upwards, that is not easy, that is steep, straight upwards.

(Jozef continues to read): ‘The second time that I dreamt it, it was not a firm staircase.’

No, because we wobble every minute.

Those stairs are dreamt about a lot, because the people have sharp material grip on them to a certain degree, and the spiritual grade can be seen and experienced directly in that.

Because there are some ...

That staircase suddenly changed, instead of wood to rope, and then a storm also came, and a thunderstorm, it became night, and the most horrific things. And people were busy there, they were – someone told me that – cutting through those ropes with knives; and then she had the strength to put those ropes together again, and finally, finally then someone came and said: ‘Persevere, and then you will make it.’

And that woman also experienced her whole life story as it were in a dream.

More people have that.

And that is also a firm foundation, you see.

(Jozef continues to read): ‘The second time that I dream it, it was not a firm staircase, but it was as if the stairs were hanging between chains.’ This is just what I mean. ‘When I have been underway for a while, a terrible exhaustion overcomes me ...’ Yes, what a miracle. ‘ ... a feeling of not being able to carry on anymore.

My hands felt powerless, but if I was to let go, then I would fall irrevocably.’

And then you will also fall irrevocably.

‘With the courage of despair I hold on anyway, and struggle on again.’

And that is the whole life after all.

‘But I make progress very slowly.

At the last stair I do not see any more chance.

But then a hand comes once ...’ You see, there it is again. ‘ ... which pulls me up.’

More people have that.

‘But once I am up, I do not have a happy feeling anyway.

The exhaustion dominates me.

The second time I dreamt ...’

Now we will finish this here.

‘With the courage of despair.’

What is this life, madam, here in our society?

We are building up and another just destroys it again.

And our struggle to master something ...

For example, Mr De Zwet told me here a moment ago, the porter, or the ...’

(Man in the hall): ‘Janitor.’

Janitor.

That man whom we recently removed from the hall, he was here, in order to hire a hall himself. He found that the teachings of Jozef Rulof must be destroyed, because that was madness.

Now he says: ‘Now you must hear those people.’

Now there are perhaps a hundred million, and two hundred million, and three hundred million spiritualists in the world, and he wants to start to work against that here in The Hague.

So one human being builds up, the other destroys.

And that is the same for all arts and sciences.

If the human being comes with something which just reaches above the normal, well, then the business is destroyed again.

Do you have this week’s ‘Vizier’? There is nothing of mine in it, but there is something in it about medical science.

That man, that writer says there: ‘How happy you can be, human being, if you belong to this century.’ And that is true.

And if you then read that, then you will get respect for the doctor who is now that far.

Because if you had a broken leg before, or whatever, then the part was just removed, then they consciously sawed it off like that, because they did not have anaesthetics.

If you read about that moaning and those tortures, how they tortured the people there a few hundred years ago, also three, four hundred years ago, because they did not yet have any medicines.

‘Then you should see’, that man says, that writer, ‘what the human being can possess in gratitude if he becomes sick sometime.’

Yes, it is extremely educational if you read that, in comparison to this age.

Because there was a doctor, he disguised himself in order to help the mother with the birth of the child; and when they realised that it was a man, then they just tortured him and burnt him at the stake, because he was not allowed to do that.

You see, the human being was so narrow-minded.

If you start to compare that, then you should see how ...

I often say: ‘We are just out of the jungle consciousness.’

But we are just out of it.

We still have whales, we still have prehistoric ages, and all those large animals, that points to prehistoric age consciousness.

And if you come to psychology in society, then they are the books for the year 2500.

You see, and it is still 1951, ’52.

We have become a day older again.

And of course, if the world has to accept this ... would ...

Now we no longer have a stake.

But if the world was not that far, you will sense that, then that man there who opposes everything, and other people who also destroy science would get ...

Galilei went to prison because he said: ‘The earth revolves around the sun.’

And you also have a doctor who said: ‘I have this, and I have that, I will prove it to you ...’

Those doctors were destroyed.

And every academic has broken his neck about something, devoted his life, was tortured, only because society did not understand it.

And now you get, madam, that clambering of everything in society in order to get a little bit of consciousness. And thousands of people have dreamt these dreams, those ladders, those stairs, that incredible moaning of ours in order to get a little bit of consciousness, and which is then kicked to bits again by other people.

Like a mother, who is very conscious, whom I told about, and her boy of nineteen years old, her foster child.

The child was four months when she got it, and when it is nineteen years old, you get a slap right in your face.

I say: ‘Yes, child, you must put that aside.’

Then she says: ‘How awful that is, isn’t it?

I love him, it is my child.’

She says: ‘I feel just as if I gave birth to the child myself.

Another time, another time, and then you are ...’

That woman, that mother says: ‘Yes, it is an adopted child’, but she does that for the life of God.

I say: ‘You can love life.’

And then you get a slap right in your face from that life.

That is no longer a face, but the blood runs away.

Then she says: ‘My blood is really running away.

My husband can no longer help me.’

I talked to her for a hour, and she went away again happy.

I say: ‘Put that aside.

If you have read all those books, then ...’

Then I told exactly what I said last week.

I say: ‘You want something, you want to do good, you want to possess something.

It is only in order to give peace to your longings.’

You are missing something.

Now we will do something.

Start to analyse this: is it absolutely the child here, or is it my longing?

What is speaking now?

If it is the child, then you will also never get a slap, madam, and then you cannot be destroyed.

Now that woman is destroyed; there she goes.

She says: ‘I am cross-eyed from sorrow, from pain.’

There you have it, there you have the proof.

That is the moaning of us in this society too.

Now you can raise hundreds of thousands of things, every day, the smallest things which place you before that ladder.

You will also get a hand.

I got the hand of the master.

Other people got this.

In the bible other people also got the hands, they say, of the prophets, but they were the masters who spoke.

The masters are the people who lived on earth and are now already there – we will also go there – and they put out their hands.

We have so many books.

We have the way.

We already know the laws.

We know: there is no damnation.

What do we not know above the human being who does not want to accept that?

But the difficulty remains exactly the same.

Only, we no longer need to make a fuss about damnation.

What does it matter to you if you soon enter ‘the coffin’.

The most beautiful thing there is: you continue.

Your evolution goes on.

Or back to the earth. We continue on the other side, you are in your own situation.

And another also stands before a grave looking, just have a little circle like that, they cannot even see through it, because that ‘coffin’, that ‘coffin’, that ‘coffin’, that ‘coffin’ ...

And we have such a lot.

I mean by this: how easily can we not climb that ladder, that staircase?

And if we fall through it, then we say: ‘Oh well, just let it fall, just let it break.’

You see, another does not have that.

So those dreams become more and more serious, because the human being is not conscious.

If mankind was conscious, there would not be any sorrow either.

Do you know that sorrow and misery do not exist?

Yes, you can always still have physical illnesses, pains.

And you cannot argue them away.

But spiritual sorrow does not exist in space.

Is that not awe-inspiring, that you can say: ‘There is no sorrow!’?

God did not create it.

But we will still not have made it.

When the human being is beaten by love, it is always unconsciousness, because true love cannot be beaten.

Can it?

If the human being knew, then he would have a very different love.

Because we do not start to climb that staircase consciously and purely harmonically with the laws, by means of the laws of Mother Nature, it becomes clambering, hanging and strangling.

Hanging and strangling we pull ourselves upwards.

But that is not necessary, madam.

If you write to me, here: ‘I went up that staircase’, then you will feel: your visiting card lies here.

I will analyse you completely naked, until everything has gone from you of what you experience here.

I cannot experience that staircase.

And another perhaps not either.

And if you now learn to possess the surrender for a hundred percent, and the knowledge ... Because if you know anyway that every footstep back to God lives in you, why would you clamber then?

Am I not right?

There will be no more moaning if you know that there is no death.

Why do you weep then, why do those people weep then, if they are so big?

And why do they have a loss when father or mother goes, and the child, why do they weep until their tears run dry, if they are so big in love?

Why do the people here still have sorrow if they lose their child?

I have had hundreds of mothers visit me because of the books.

Half of the Netherlands was writing to me because of ‘A View into the Hereafter’.

Hundreds of mothers sent such bouquets of roses and flowers.

One bouquet with seven hundred and fifty roses for the mother of Gommel, because the mother now also knew where her child was.

Yes, now you will get more stories of course.

Then she says: ‘Now I know that I have not lost my child.’

But what must be added to that, madam?

Then she started to read, she read all of them, and at the end of that reading she said: ‘I have just taken myself for a ride, Mr Rulof, because imagine – now I read ‘The Cycle of the Soul’ – that my child returns to the earth, and I die ...

It is still the life of God, it is not even my child.’

Then she also took that back again.

Then the mother stood on her own divine feet for the first time.

Do you not find that powerful?

You see, you can apply that moaning in everything.

And who does not need a ladder like that, a staircase like that in order to climb up in feeling?

Because if you accept all of this in feeling and want to experience it according to the laws – and they are infallibly there in those books – then you do not even need that staircase anymore, then the staircase will become hazy, and you will dream differently.

Because you dream according to your feeling.

Look, that moaning in society is distancing ourselves anyway from our own longing.

If you can lay everything aside and you no longer have any longings, then the people say: ‘Then I am nothing’, but then everything remains: the feeling of love.

That remains. That must be there of course. And if that is there, madam, it happens of its own accord.

The people say: ‘This is difficult.’

This is the most simple way now.

If you know it.

We do our best, we try to be in harmony with those teachings, with those laws; and it happens of its own accord.

You do not need to rush, because you live in eternity.

You can say here, we are talking about: I will take five years and ten years to do it.

You can get more consciousness in five years.

Because look, what is in this now?

If you have climbed those stairs, and you are at the top, then you will start to see life different, do it differently, you will start to act differently.

So those masters ...

Master Alcar knows absolutely ...

He says: ‘We did not have to write at all.

Christ did not need to come either.

But because Christ came, and because we know that we are alive, why would we not take away the fear of death from the people, while death only just means happiness?’

This is why they come back and say: ‘We are alive.

Do not be afraid of death and do not weep for the one who is dead, because there is no death.’

So they are not obliged to tell us that, only this: ‘Love everything which lives and there is no death.

Then you are fortunate, because we are alive.’

And everything is in that.

Perhaps you will soon have more questions about this.

(Jozef continues to read): ‘The second time I dreamt that there were a few people with me.

The climbing was not nearly as difficult for them.’

Now I did not read it, you see it.

You see, that is all in it.

(Jozef continues to read): ‘They could even ...’

Now you could say: ‘Yes, that Mr Rulof is talking hot air.’

But I am never off the mark.

Just listen, I am never off the mark, because I know that spiritual law.

And I also experienced something here.

I did not get it for nothing either, this.

Everything which you experienced, I also have to go through all of that, I have to go through it.

And then you can ...

There are people who get hands, hands, and hands, and there are people who always just need people and hands for every trivial little thing, but they never have anything for themselves; this is even sadder.

You must not ...

They do not want to go up the staircase alone, but they also want to be carried upstairs.

And when they are upstairs, with another lift, then just into that heaven, do you see?

Yes. And Our Lord sympathises with you in that?

You will see something completely different there.

(Jozef continues to read): ‘The climbing was not nearly as difficult for them,’ no, ‘they could even still talk to each other.’

Do you not do that then, here?

The human being progressed because of the science of another.

We are now learning, because Lantos Dumonché, master Zelanus, broke his neck.

During the war there were, I know that, hundreds of Jewish children – it runs to a thousand – who were gassed in Germany with ‘The Cycle of the Soul’ under their arms.

I know, from concentration camps.

‘The Cycle of the Soul’ was read there day and night, under the wooden beds.

And one book had the honour of being gassed with the Jew, the Jewish child.

Then she says: ‘You will destroy yourself.’

Then he says: ‘I will never do that.

Here, read for yourself.’

Master Zelanus achieved that with his book. And you now have the picture of it.

And that for God, and that for Christ, and that for the universe, and that for millions of other laws which we had to master, which we have to master and by means of which we now get a hand which helps us.

And now you are all busy.

Is there not one amongst you who needs a hand for a triviality?

If you had that, then you would not even be sitting here and then you would no longer need those books.

But society is already deep, life is deep, is divine.

And we cannot make society divine, but we can make it spiritual.

And now we people are busy spiritualizing that society, our actions in society.

And we have that staircase for that purpose.

Don’t we?

And we then break our precious neck there, the inner one, you see; also the material one now and again, but we get that again by means of another.

Now we get here: ‘Yet I get the feeling from those people that there was not much depth in them.

I do not dream a lot, but this one keeps coming back the last few years.’

This is a really nice dream, madam, you are busy with yourself.

(Jozef continues to read): ‘Another dream which keeps repeating itself, is that I discover the beginning of a fire.’

More people see that.

‘I immediately begin to extinguish the fire and expect that the people who are around me will help as much as they can.

However they just look at it ...’ And that is true. ‘ ... and think: nothing more can be saved anyway.’

No, they think: just work it out for yourself.

Because when the fire enters us, madam, which means, when we really explode one day and we think we are being physically and spiritually destroyed by a blaze, by fire, then the spiritual human being who is standing there – these are perhaps not spiritual people, but if it were to be the masters – they would let us burn.

Otherwise we will never work it out.

If they get us out of it, then we will not have experienced that being released from that burning, from that destruction.

In other words, if you have a human being there who represents that and that grade, and that human being does not want, cannot, how can I, or another, give that human being my feeling, how can I give that human being the truth, the reality and the love, that it is really like that?

How is that possible now?

So those people have to let you burn.

In other words, that dream refers to eternity, and that means: you must earn and experience everything yourself, you must get through it.

And then you will know, then you stay away from an inner fire.

That means: then we will not light any more fires because of lust, violence and destruction – do you feel? - because then that becomes the fire, that is the fire of inner lust.

That does not mean that you will just live it up, but the smallest things possess the same fire as the large ones, by means of which the human being commits murder.

An action which is inflamed by the personality – however trivial it is – it possesses the same attunement as the feeling which murders, commits arson, and does even more.

Doesn’t it?

And that can all be analysed.

(Jozef continues to read): ‘However, they watch.’

Yes, they do not lift a hand, because you cannot be helped, you must experience it yourself.

(Jozef continues to read): ‘Then I continue alone and run with buckets of water from downstairs, down the ladder, upstairs, and my effort is rewarded: I get the fire under control.’

Then you are already a happy person.

Ladies and gentlemen, how many fires would there be in us which we do not have under control?

Well?

Then we will begin again, you see, as if something else wonderful has happened.

Just a moment ago they almost crushed me to death, they wanted to give me a hand; I just walked away quickly.

I say: people, we live in eternity.

Now I can be humanly polite, I say: ‘Yes, sir, thank you.’

But I think: I must make off.

Because we still live in the same minutes of last week.

And there is no beginning and no end.

Yes, there was a beginning, and an end will come.

There was a divine beginning, and a human-divine end.

But here is something else: ‘Mr Rulof, I am a bit hesitant to give spiritual value to my dreams, but I find it remarkable that these dreams keep repeating themselves through the years.

Would you give me a guide to this?’

Now you must pay attention, madam, whether nothing has changed about those dreams, about those stairs during those years.

Another lady dreams almost the same thing, those stairs, stairs, stairs ...

She says: ‘One morning, one night, then I was dreaming again.

I read a lot during those years, there were also books by you.

And now you should see how that manifests itself.

Then she says: 'At three, four ...

It was first a bare staircase, it looked old and dirty.

I think: if I go on it, I will go through it.

After years and years, it is perhaps seventeen year ago’, she now says, ‘then I had dreamt a fortnight ago, then there was a mat on the first three, four steps.

And to the left and to the right a new colour had been applied.’

Then she thought: oh, there were holes in it, and now, all polished up.

And this is beautiful, again.

How clean it looks.

Then she says: ‘Sorry, would that also refer to me, Mr Rulof?’

I say: ‘Yes.

What were you like?’

‘Well’, she says, ‘I used to be a wild cat, and now I would no longer violate that.’

I say: ‘Madam, then you have seen a picture of yourself, because', I say, 'I don't think you ...

I don't think you look that bad.

You look well, madam, from inside and from outside.’

But you see, it already starts to correct itself, it already shows itself with a mat on the stairs.

A material picture, that something has changed inwardly about the personality.

But who does not have any stairs to climb here amongst us?

But there are people ...

Now we are busy, you are busy.

But someone, like that man there, and other people, who do not want to begin with that, who throw all of that overboard: we are mad, and God is mad, and they do not have a God and a Christ, he opposes things which the world must accept as reality, as fundamental natural possession.

When will those people begin, I ask you, with that stair climbing?

Because, at the end of the day the Catholic child is, the Protestant child, all religions and sects are busy climbing stairs.

All those people are busy with something.

And that is the climbing of our earthly personality, the conquering of the human being, with regard to the divine laws.

Every religion has that, doesn’t it?

And in this way the human being cannot avoid this.

Who has any more questions about this?

I do not have that many letters in the New Year.

I have two.

And then I could put the questioner (microphone) in the hall.

Who has anything else to ask about this?

Which one of you?

Or are you already upstairs, madam?

Are you already upstairs, Mr De Wit?

Who is already there?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof ...’

Yes, madam.

(Lady in the hall): ‘I sometimes also dream about a staircase, but I always walk off it.’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I sometimes also dream about a staircase, quite often, but I always walk off it.

And then I come somewhere where it is very beautiful.

And at a certain moment I become afraid and then it is enough and then I wake up with a fright.’

So, you are upstairs, and you walk off it again, and downstairs it is beautiful, and yet you become afraid with a fright?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I wake up.’

Yes, I think that you are afraid, because you walk out precisely the wrong way.

Don’t you think so?

But what is that now?

You also dream about going upstairs, downstairs, and you go downstairs, and when you are downstairs, you become afraid; but it is very beautiful there, and yet you are afraid.

Well, what could that be now, ladies and gentlemen?

Can you explain that dream?

We have talked about it here.

But what is this now?

There is a good core to this.

Do you not know it?

Who knows it?

Who can analyse a dream?

(Another lady in the hall says): ‘Being beautiful is just show, that is initially tempting, but then the true feeling enters you and then you become afraid.’

This lady dreams that she is going upwards.

She is up, but now she goes down.

And that is very beautiful.

Yes, that happens with ease.

But now she becomes afraid.

Fear, but she does not know what it is.

But it is beautiful.

Yes, do you know what beautiful was?

That she went up, that was beautiful.

And now the fear comes, she does not know what it is, because she is walking in the wrong direction.

Her life starts to say: ‘No, not that way; you must now go higher, go on.’

And then the fear comes.

She was in the beautiful part, and she leaves it.

Isn’t it simple?

She is in the beautiful part, and leaves it perfectly simply in a human way, by means of which she starts to feel that she is missing something; and that now becomes fear.

Do you accept that?

Anything else?

Madam.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof.

But I have precisely dreamt three times in a row that I ... (inaudible) could say.

But I am standing on a high building and then I go and stand on the edge of the window frame and then I just jump down. But I am floating. And when I then come on the ground, then I still remain a bit in high up ...’

That’s really something.

(Lady in the hall): ‘I have had that three times in a row.’

So you are just like a rubber ball.

(laughter) Yes, madam, that is certainly something very unusual.

Yes, that actually brings me ...

No, and it is not cat burglary either, is it?

But you go out the window, you jump, and you float downwards.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, I just float, and I do not fall.’

You do not fall.

(Lady in the hall): ‘No.

For the second time: I am standing on my feet.

Well, then I just jump off, and then I go kind of along the wall downwards.’

Do you also feel?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

And so nice really nice and close to home like that.

(Lady in the hall): ‘And then I float so delightfully downwards and when I then come to the floor ...’ (laughter)

It does not look like a long fly, it does not look like a long fly.

But I cannot give a name to it, because I do not even know.

I do not have any contact with that.

This can still be connected.

Oh, you dream, people dream the craziest things.

Because when that inner self gets started from inside, then you have one in a hundred dreams which really ...

Look, the dream can be: the analysing – and it is that – the analysing of the day consciousness.

But now you can ...

You must always get a spiritual dream.

Because we are not capable after all of analysing our life; we do not have the feeling for it.

Even if you read the books a hundred times, then it is still not a possession.

You must feel and understand, if the human being dreams ...

And then you can read a hundred books, you know that, but that is not your possession – in your dream.

If you start to dream, then the human being is just as infirmly off the mark again, even if they have experienced a hundred thousand lectures.

Because you first start to dream, when that is your possession.

You must therefore have experienced it.

You can know a hundred times: reincarnation is pure and clear, but then you are still not reincarnation.

So you cannot experience that reincarnation.

My master let me dream.

First dreaming, making contact ...

I was in the world of the unconscious, I was attracted, but I saw the father and mother beforehand. That was in France.

He says: ‘Look’, and I was awake, ‘now you will slowly descend, and while descending you will become smaller and smaller, to an embryo.’

So you are a human being, and you are still an embryo.

Like a pin head, yet a human being, and thinking; that is possible.

And then you get contact.

Later we went into that consciously.

And then for the first time I was capable of dreaming about my past.

Then I experienced a dream: I was born, in the mother, I was a girl.

I grew up, I started going out with someone, the boy whom I saw, I had two children as a mother.

And I experienced all of that in the dream.

Until I entered ‘the coffin’ again, and went back to that place in that world of the unconscious.

You can dream about that in half an hour.

But every phenomenon added, madam, then you have contact.

So you start to dream consciously and dream unconsciously.

You start to dream unconsciously, that means, physically dreaming, or spiritually dreaming for your inner life.

That is giving birth, creation.

And then you can experience the personality again.

And then you can experience hundreds of thousands of dreams, which do not even concern us at the moment, but still have to do with us to a certain extent by means of our life of feeling.

Because masses of people dream, and the craziest things, yes, also amazing things.

Every dream can be analysed, but you must ... the spiritual contact immediately ...

Look, if you also have something else, what you say there, if you have a front page there, the title, only just ...

I can go into something.

I can connect it.

Every dream can be analysed if that dream has a spiritual connection.

(Lady in the hall): ‘The dream which I dreamt about before that one?’

No, what you are saying there.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, I dream that same dream three times.

I never dream.

But sometimes, yes, that was a while before that, I dreamt that I entered a very large kitchen, with a very big white sink and a big copper tap, and a balloon above that, you know, and there were all windows high up, everything was terribly big, and a big stove; and then I walked towards that and then there were all little taps on it, it was all lovely and clean, you know; and that tap shone so beautifully, and there was a very big white balloon hanging there, a lamp above.

In my way I was looking for a house, you know ...’

So you were, let us say, that dream ...

Imagine that you entered such a beautiful kitchen as a mother.

That could be a kitchen consciousness.

The longing ... (laughter) Yes, you are laughing at that, ladies.

I do not know what your kitchen looks like, but that is already a very beautiful kitchen, with those golden balls.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Beautiful.’

Look, you can therefore dream about those things, dream about material things.

You can wish for something, and then it happens in a dream.

In this way I have had a few of those dreams, I wanted that and that and that.

I told you it.

But then you wake up in the morning, and then you have no money, and then you are not a prince, and then you are nothing. And then I think: ‘I really made a fool of myself last night, didn’t I; ate and drank ...’

I only wish to dream in order to give the world something, to give mankind happiness.

And then they say: ‘What a lot of money there, what is that anyway?’

But I want to give it to mankind, I have so many beautiful things to give.

Another says: ‘Yes, nonsense.’

And then I really come across different courts, but in the morning I am lying with my nose in the street, and it did not happen.

And then I say: ‘Just go away for goodness sake, because I am missing so many millions.’

And then again: wrong.

You see, my own longings.

I say: ‘Master Alcar, just do not let me dream again, because that will not come out anyway.’

It is usually just the recovery of the day consciousness.

Then the human being has experienced too much over the years, and that is then analysed in the dream, in the sleep, and then the life and the material reach harmony again – and be happy that it happens – or the inner life would irrevocably destroy the nervous system in one month.

(To the hall): Who else amongst you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, Mr Rulof.’

Sir.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I wanted to come back to what you quoted a moment ago from ‘Vizier’, about technical medical science, that there were so many sorrows and pains for three hundred years.’

Oh, that was terrible.

‘But for a long time it was in one of the papers, that science in the East had found a skull which was estimated to be four thousand years old, and an operation was carried out on it, which people are faced with this very day.’

Sir, in ancient Egypt, that is also four thousand years ago – you have the arrogance again – we have, the masters, the priests there have removed skulls there by means of herbalism, removed tumours; they rubbed a substance on them, it softened the skin and then it came off, they also had medicines, operated.

But it concerns: there were surgeons, who were already a long way.

Because you first had the medicine men from the jungle.

You are all medicine men for that matter, and medicine mothers, for yourself.

Because we were then just like the dog and the cat.

When a dog has a pain in its stomach, then the animal goes and eats grass, or whatever, and the cat too. And then they search just as long until they are rid of it; or they become ill. But they usually help themselves.

And that was the first thought in order to dissolve misery.

That lasted thousands of years, millions of years.

And now, in this age, science is already a long way.

If you read that, then you will get to see the wonderful difference, how the people suffered during that time; and we were also that ourselves.

Millions of people died from the plague and small pox and cholera.

Nothing could be done about it.

The craziest things, yes, they had to be operated on consciously, sir.

And that man writes that, he says: ‘Then two gentlemen came there ...’

What would you think, madam, or sir, if your own butcher came there with the knife, and put the knife there in your stomach in order to cure that appendix?

I imagine that you will bleed to death for that time, before he is at the appendix. But the butcher did it.

You should read how a king there was filled with soups and with things, until they ...

They had poisoned him in a fortnight.

But they wanted to make him better in one day.

Well, and you do not need to laugh at that; but we are that far now, and science, the doctors have improved the past fifty, seventy-five years, they have developed.

And now the spiritual faculties, in 1952, are at a standstill, aren’t they?

Doctors can go further, technical wonders ...

And the rest too of course, astronomy, biologist, geologist.

But no theologian comes further, no psychologist, no psychiatrist.

Isn’t it sad?

Here we are now, therefore in ’52, at a standstill.

And that has since Christ, after Christ ...

That was already happening in Egypt, and that was already happening in China for ten thousand years, it was built up there.

And now in 1952, after ten thousand centuries, the psychologist is at a standstill.

He knows, I cannot go any further.

But the doctors ...

Hahaha, my dear human being, the whole cosmos still has to be discovered for the physical part.

We will soon get instruments by means of which all diseases will dissolve.

We are only beginning.

The human paradise will soon come.

They say: ‘I do not want to return here again.’

But madam, sir, soon it will be a bliss to live on earth.

You will no longer be ill, you will no longer have any karma, you will not need to think about cold and heat, you will get cooling, you will get everything, you will be able to fly over the whole world, you will go on journeys, you will work at the most – if you go and work – perhaps one hour per day, or two hours a week, that will be all that you do, because the machines will do it then.

Then the human being will understand the technical wonder.

Or did you think that it is not like that?

Perfectly simple to give a prediction of five thousand years.

Then I can show you The Hague exactly.

Then you will no longer have to sit together.

Then you will all have the equipment at home and then you can ... yourself ...

Just like television. The television now reaches Belgium. How many kilometres does television cover?

Soon you will get pictures of America here.

You will get the pictures from the spheres of the earth. That will all be materialized.

What else do you want to know?

You will sit down, and you will listen.

You will no longer need to go to the ...

You no longer need to be disbelieving, and to doubt: is there still a master?

That master builds himself up here like that, and he stands in your midst again and starts to talk.

But then he no longer needs to talk, then he says: ‘Just work it out for yourself.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Will it not be an annoying business in the long term?’

There you have it already.

(laughter) There you have it already, sir.

Sir, then life will be ...

This gentleman says ...

Ladies, did you hear him?

(Ladies): ‘Yes.’

‘Will it then be an annoying business?’

But, sir, what did you think that the masters do in the hereafter?

Christ lives in the Divine All with hundreds of billions of souls, all masters, divine conscious beings, who are bored to death like that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But those masters are not all at the same height.’

In the Divine All?

(Gentleman in the hall); ‘Oh, in the Divine All, you say.’

But a hundred million masters also live on the other side.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, precisely.’

And they are not bored for a minute.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, they still have a lot to learn.’

No, sir, they do not learn anything else.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Oh no?’

No, they do not learn anything else there.

Shall I tell you a nice story?

If you have reached the seventh sphere, sir, in the fourth sphere you already no longer need to learn anything for this space.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Not to unlearn either?’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Not to unlearn either?’

You do not have to unlearn anything there, sir.

Here I really have them in a complicated problem again.

If you have reached the fourth sphere, you can no longer make any mistakes, because you continue consciously harmonically, so that happens of its own accord, by means of the birth.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Precisely, so by means of the birth, you say.

So you do something.

You remain in action.’

Yes.

Why?

I explained that to you here a hundred times, and the books tell you that.

Why are you not bored?

You are always awake, because you never fall asleep.

Sleeping no longer exists, neither does boredom.

Those masters do nothing, but they are everything, you see.

They no longer lift a hand.

Walking, going. He says: ‘I will look at the earth.’

I often see them walking on the street, then I say: ‘Hey.’

I always walk ...

When I am in the city, and I come amongst people, then I always compose myself inwardly, and then I see more spiritual beings than people in the street.

I think: Oh, they are walking.

They are walking.

Look, in Diligentia you get the lectures from the All-Source.

Have you experienced that?

God as Father, All-Source, All-Soul, All-Spirit.

That All-Spirit is still propelling.

That All-Soul, that is still there now.

If that All-Soul ceases to exist, we will dissolve, we will be gone.

Then everything will collapse; then all the light will disappear, if the All-Light ceases to light up.

If the All-Motherhood and the All-Fatherhood cease, God will no longer be there. Then everything which is fatherhood and motherhood will collapse and start to rot, or will suddenly die out, like a hurricane, because the Primal Source will be gone.

What is growth and blossom in the earth, in the material?

The All-Soul, the All-Life.

So, the human being in the Spheres of Light, the fourth sphere, is everything, but does not need to do anything else, because he has conquered his physical life, for this space.

But he is soul of that Soul, conscious, as a human being now, as a spirit, spirit of that Spirit, father of that Spirit, mother of that Motherhood.

And, you see, then the human being says: The All-Source drives on, and is and will remain there.

We represent the All-Mother as light, life, fatherhood, motherhood, personality, realm of colours, that has also become God.

But we are the gods.

There is not a human God.

Now you enter life ‘behind the coffin’, in the seventh sphere, and you are therefore light there.

Because you live, everything lives.

But if you no longer live, everything collapses; if you are no longer light, then darkness will come.

But when I am there, there is light, there is life, there is feeling, there is inspiration, there is growth.

But if I have reached the grade for a higher order, then that higher order will attract me, I will become higher life, feeling, thinking.

So after the fourth sphere the fourth cosmic plan begins to influence and to awaken you, and that now happens of its own accord, because we no longer have to experience and to follow that struggle on earth.

There is in that world, when we are in the first sphere, no disease, no theft in us anymore; or you will not make it.

The masters call that: ‘The spiritual paradise in the human being.’

Christ said that.

You are harmony there.

You are no longer faith there: you know everything.

You know all the laws of space, because you have experienced the laws of space, by means of fatherhood, motherhood, reincarnation.

So you are completely one with all the life which you possess there, which surrounds you.

So you represent your world; I too.

We are all sparks from one source, but, as millions of people, one human being from one grade.

Because we just represent one personality, one motherhood, one fatherhood.

It becomes perfectly simple.

Yes, perfectly simple.

When you speak about cosmic consciousness, cosmic laws, and cosmic plans ...

Sir, you will find that again in the smallest insect on earth.

But the biologist, the geologist, the theologian, the psychologist, the astronomer, those faculties still cannot connect the spark, that microcosmos, with the macrocosmos, from which that microcosmos originated.

They do not yet have the way, do not yet have the connection.

Because they must now be able to connect that materially spiritually; and the spirit still has to awaken.

Is this so difficult now?

You are a scholar, you knew your studies, but your technical studies are exactly the same.

And you cannot avoid this, sir.

This is not nonsense.

Those teachings will not make you mad either.

Because those teachings will bring to the unity with that divine law, and you are that yourself again.

You will never be denied anything, on the contrary, you will always get the new, the higher back.

But there will come a time, you will feel, when we can accept ... I saw that, you do not need to believe me ...

I tell you, sir: I did not write those books.

I come from Gelderland.

You had your faculty, you studied, you are an engineer.

I am nothing.

I didn't even know my Dutch, I still don't know it.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Now, that is all right.’

That does not matter, sir, that does not matter, but I will honestly admit that, because it is not me.

I got everything.

And if you see the infallible line in that ...

I am happy with that, you can also be happy with that.

And why?

Because it sends all of us to the eternal conscious fatherhood and motherhood, God; we are gods.

But what happened now on earth?

Now we have just come from the jungle, have built up society.

But what is our society with regard to the divine love of Christ?

What is that?

If Christ was to rule here now ... If Christ returns, then be honest, and you will be king and emperor, and you will be absolutely before Him, and He will say: ‘I will come and visit you this evening at eight o’clock, and then we will look at the laws for the New Year’ ...

Then He hangs up there for us: the ten commandments.

Now, there we are.

Then Our Majesty will say ...

Then He says: ‘Dear little Juliaan, could you not stop representing a murderer’s gang like that any longer, because you do not want that in the core anyway?

Why do you accept what they want?

‘But, Lord, what should we do then?’

‘But what did I teach you?’ He says.

‘What did I die for?’

What did Peter do there?

He just hit out.

He says: ‘Peter, now I have laid foundations, years and years with you, and now you just put your hand out like that, and you destroy everything of Me, because My and your Father is love.’

So, now, be honest.

What will remain of our society?

If you therefore do that, do this ...

And then you can say: ‘Yes, madam ...’

I accept it every day, and I see it.

You can say: ‘Yes, sir, it is easy for you to talk, you are out of it.’

I am really out of it.

If I see a boy like that there, and he goes hooray to war ...

Yes, then I will not shout at that child, because two hundred years ago I was walking there myself.

Do not shout at that child which is capable of murdering, we have all done it, we are still doing it.

But the realization is now there.

Not only that those ten commandments are there, but our fathers and mothers return and say: ‘Do not kill another for heaven’s sake, but especially not for yourself either, because you will enter a rotting process with your own body which will give you ‘pleasure’.’

Master Zelanus, Lantos Dumonché, ‘Cycle of the Soul’.

And now, just begin.

Which justice does our society have, sir?

If you know this now, then you are still capable – if we get hold of the means tomorrow – would you dare to act the judge for this?

Now be a judge for once.

Sir, you will see what you do not violate, and what you come to stand before.

Would you dare that?

I wouldn’t.

Start to tell about something, begin about spiritual faculties.

You will just be damned.

Now, one clashes with the other one.

But what did we do, sir - there are still diseases - that we are still up to here in it?

We have cancer, tuberculosis, and if you enter the laboratories or the clinics, sir, then you think that there is only cancer and tuberculosis, don’t you?

You should hear, sir, all the awful diseases which still exist amongst the people.

They are muddy histories of ourselves, if we just want to experience that reincarnation.

Or do you wish to saddle someone else with all of that?

You see, start to talk about that soon.

And then you will experience the New Year.

And then start to look at what danger you are faced with.

And do that with regard to Our Lord.

Just do not imagine that we are Christ.

We will have to become it one day, because you will carry Him, I, everyone.

Because we came from that source.

Do you accept this?

And then you should see, sir, when we put our hand out, and say: ‘Oh yes, I may participate in that.’

A hundred thousand times there comes: ‘Oh, not here.’

Everywhere, you burn yourself there, from front and from behind, from left and from right, from above; and you are afraid of still looking at society, let alone experiencing that society.

The human being is afraid. But by means of these things you get a new life again, because you say: ‘I do not want anything to do with it, I will do it differently, I will do it like that.’

Now just begin.

Then the whole world will lie before you as mankind.

And then you can analyse that mankind.

See you soon.

And the tea is ready for you, ladies and gentlemen.

INTERVAL

Ladies and gentlemen, I have received a new letter.

‘I have a happy family and marriage.

Now during all those years of happiness I always felt: and that cannot remain like that anyway.

And then I kept having the thought: how would I feel if I had to give up a child one day.

And then I always thought about my eldest.

Until the separation came from her, which you already know about.

Once I told someone that, and he gave the answer: ‘You do feel up to your happiness.’

And then I thought: you know nothing about that.

What was that, what I felt all along?’

From who is that?

Madam, look, you felt happiness.

The engineer told me a moment ago – he has had faculties -: ‘My professor could not have told it to me as clearly as you.’

But, sir, he cannot do it either.

That is not arrogance of me, but I will prove it to you.

Why – now we get to experience a philosophical system – why did that mother feel her happiness?

And millions of mothers do not, millions of people do not?

And why is the happiness now a sign, and another feeling means nothing?

Why could she feel: something will come?

When can you start to feel and experience something?

When do you really experience something by means of your feeling, a philosophical system?

Socrates began with that.

What are you, what do you feel when you are happy?

What is that, happy, being happy, happiness, what is that?

That is a faculty, isn’t it?

They are the philosophical systems, aren’t they?

We built up reality with them.

Because we start from the assumption, for society first: what is truth?

That is science.

So science lays foundations by means of experiencing and analysing true laws.

And now we are making progress.

That is the construction, that is the first foundation for philosophical systems, and for every faculty.

Now this lady writes me this letter.

I can immediately determine – at least if you take part in philosophical analysis – why the feeling manifested itself in her: I am pleased and happy, and yet there is something.

Do you see?

Can a mother, I ask you, can a human being be pleased and happy, if that is not there?

I am already saying it.

Is a human being conscious of happiness?

When does happiness start to speak?

All systems now, steps to true happiness.

Why did she get to feel something, which she could not give another, but which lived in her anyway?

Why is that?

This is now a philosophical system.

Look, I can also say it with two words, and then I will be done with it.

But there is a whole book to this.

This is enough for a book.

Do you see?

Another says: ‘Yes, you do not dare to experience your happiness.’

And another also says: ‘Human being, what does it matter to you; if you are happy, you are happy.’

(A gentleman in the hall says something.)

No, sir, because there are mothers who are really happy with their children.

But that happiness also has grades of consciousness.

And now happiness has ...

Happiness is now a feeling.

And feeling has seven grades for the personality, which is feeling, and means happiness.

Because happiness is a human being, can be a human being, can be a space, happiness can also be so small, so small, a little circle.

There are people who are so awe-inspiringly happy, but if you start to analyse things, nothing more remains of that happiness, because the reality has gone.

‘There is not even happiness present’, the philosopher, the professor now says.

He says: ‘Madam, you are making a fuss about nothing.’

You say there: ‘I do not want to lose that for all the money in the world.’

And another says: ‘Well, that does not mean a jot to me.’

You are probably happy with each other.

This concerns marriage, this concerns being a man, being a woman, being a child, our whole human being lies in this, to space, Christ, God and everything else.

Now you say, you are really happy with your child.

Now we will immediately look ...

Now another comes, and he says: ‘Oh yes, you see, all self-interest.’

Now self-love comes.

The happiness for the human being, for man and wife, for the mother at least, she has given birth to a child.

You can experience that humanly-maternally.

I will immediately lay the spiritual, universal grade next to it, and now you get to experience universal motherhood, happiness, love.

Is that not higher, does that not go deeper?

That comprises this whole macrocosmos.

Madam – you can immediately continue – you felt this, you were in the happiness, in the highest happiness of this child, and now the sensitivity of you and the child emerged.

And now, because you were happy, you started to sense.

More people said that.

‘I will not keep that’, someone says, ‘too nice for me.’

There is already something busy, you see, that life already starts to speak.

And if you had felt it a bit higher with regard to ...

Now it goes to laws.

What is going higher, going further?

That is nothing else but that you would have said: ‘Would that child continue to live?’

What can you be denied if no death comes between this?

Nothing.

If that child remains here on earth, then you can ...

If the child possesses love and you have contact, then a mother does not need to doubt that that child will already hit or kick the mother; because then there is no longer any happiness, then the happiness has gone.

Is that true or not?

But if you have a pure spiritual unity with your child, then it is perfectly simple that the feeling – and now it comes down to it, now it is there – that the feeling which starts to warn you is only just ‘the coffin’.

Because something of the earth cannot make you afraid.

Only just loss.

And that for this world, which is then experienced and accepted for the ordinary human being, only death, which is not there.

Isn’t it the case?

This is the death.

You therefore have experienced, by means of your happiness, the true unity with your child, that happiness.

But you felt: that is too good to be true.

That life itself, that child started to speak to you, that feeling, and that told you: ‘My mother, I will not be here for that long anymore, I will be leaving.’

That was the doubt of your happiness.

If that child had remained here, then you could never have felt that.

Yes, there are people – now it becomes dismal – who are now small. Now they start to analyse with themselves.

And then they ask, ask, ask just as long until those people are eighty, ninety years old, and then they know: oh yes, it did not happen.

And then they have lost their hold; or they have no conscious feeling for this life, for that love.

But this is a philosophical system, which manifests itself, because you experienced the highest feeling as happiness, as mother for your child. And you have not lost that life, we know that, but she would go.

And that was working in you.

You were afraid of this contact all those years, weren’t you?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, but I had that feeling six and a half years before her passing, and I felt it all those years: it cannot stay like this, something must happen.

But six months before her death then I had the feeling of ...’

Look, if that child, if that life was still here, you would therefore not have had that feeling.

It does not matter where it comes from, it does not matter.

She cannot send it out if it is not there.

It is an infallible law.

So if she was still alive now, that girl, then she could not have, consciously or unconsciously, sent out that feeling so that you could have felt it.

Do you understand this, where I am heading?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

So that quickening already lived in her, which you felt as: good heavens, I will not keep that.

Didn’t it?

That is it.

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The feeling of happiness was crossed out because of that.’

Precisely.

But now I want to have you at another grade.

Now that mother cannot experience that full sensitive happiness.

So, there are a hundred thousand mothers, who are not bothered whether there is happiness or no happiness; that child is there, and that is the end of the story.

But by experiencing that child, there is still no happiness.

Because the people do not get out of the children what is in them.

In other words, you come higher, and higher, and higher, then you get spiritual unity.

There are mothers, who have children, children, and then you should ask: ‘Did you experience your children today?’

Who can do that?

So those days, those years, those months pass, and they cannot remember anything about each other, they do not know anymore what it was like.

Because they did not experience each other.

Here this proves: real unity of mother and child.

This also goes to gifts, spiritual feeling; the highest grade of feeling with regard to child, mother, and unity.

But another mother, who also has children, and that and that and that, she also loses that child, but did not feel anything.

And she does not talk about: ‘Well, but I do not know, I do not trust it, I do not know.’

You see, that must ... that conscious feeling ...

There you have Socrates.

Then Socrates says ...

Then the people told: ‘Yes, I am happy.’

‘Yes’, Socrates says, ‘about the twenty-five guilders which you got there.

But I do not mean that’, he says, ‘I mean that feeling which connects us with all the laws, by means of which we and if necessary all the life originated.’

And then the human being started to think philosophically.

Didn’t he?

Do you see? And then I can give you a lesson, sir, then we will analyse: when are you true?

Yes, for the earth.

This is why I say: if Our Lord would be here again, and He hung up only just the ten commandments in the street, then we would also keep quiet anyway, we would stop, or we must accept Him for the other side, cosmos, God.

But the mother who did not feel this, she certainly does not wonder: ‘I am missing something today.

Will my child die in two years time?’

My dear human being, because of this the mother proves that there is no unity.

And that nothing happens either.

She could experience a unity.

Here the death, the evolution was speaking.

The evolution was already speaking to you, which you did not understand.

If there had also been a little bit more feeling, sensitivity, then you could have said: ‘I will lose my child.

But I will not lose her, because she will pass on.

I can perhaps be together wonderfully with her for another few years, six months, and then she will leave.’

Is that not what we must still master?

We are busy with that, aren’t we?

If the human being is so sensitive, then they know it beforehand.

But millions of mothers do not have it, madam, and are therefore not in that grade, or those children would remain here and continue to live, become a mother, until later when they are old – old law and grade of life as organism – at the age of seventy, eighty years old, sixty, they calmly die and then they enter ‘the coffin’, and then the life is over.

But we will begin again.

We will become youthful again.

We will not become youthful, we will only just get a new body, we will awaken again; because youth does not exist.

And look, that Jeus, that Jozef Rulof is so mad: youth does not exist.

Because that is all human thinking and feeling.

But you can build up a faculty about this, you can start to think philosophically about this, then you will come into contact with the law of motherhood, fatherhood, reincarnation because of us.

And then you can continue.

What did you have?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I experienced exactly the same thing in 1945, with the construction of a large mansion.’

With the construction of?

(Lady in the hall); ‘Of a large house, and six months later everything was so wonderful and then I was standing opposite the house and then I thought: now, it is too good to be true, that I have achieved all of this so well.

Within two days everything was gone ...’

Razed to the ground?

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, not that, but it was all, well, it was nothing at all anymore ...’

Yes, you can experience this for motherhood, experience for your society, you see, experience for a hundred thousand more things, business things; everything which we people in society have to do with, you can feel and experience that beforehand, yes, indeed.

Someone had devoted everything for a dog breeding kennel.

Another had put in a hundred thousand guilders: a badger breeding farm, pelts. And then that man started to read books of mine, then he let them go.

He says: ‘I am not a conscious animal murderer, sir.

I can no longer breed those animals now, sir, in order to sell them and to kill them.

I am stopping.

Then my money will just be gone.

I will start again.’

That boy became a farmhand.

A lady, an opera singer, who sung with Willem Mengelberg (conductor of the Concerthallorchestra), the alto, the Mary Magdalene, wife of one of our followers in Amsterdam, a wonderful singer.

‘I can no longer sing the Matthäus passion’, she says, ‘now that I have read ‘The Peoples of the Earth’.

I cannot get it in anymore, because it was always a torture for me; and it is one and all happiness.

Now that I know that ...

Now you must start to sing about Christ there ...

Ooo’, she says, ‘and they murdered Him.’

Then she says: ‘That is something very different.

I cannot get it out again.’

From that moment that she read ‘The Peoples of the Earth’, she could no longer sing.

Yes, the voice is there.

‘But’, she says, ‘I can no longer sing the Matthäus passion.’

Why not?

It clashes with reality.

That is the horror for Bach.

When he entered the spheres he said: ‘Now I meant it like that, and now it is like that.’

Yes.

What a passion that is, isn’t it, if you hear that.

But to take that passion to ourselves, if you build that up, that singing there, and you give yourself a good beating because of the singing and you sing: ‘We are your murderers’ ...

No: ‘He took away our sins.’

Then she says: ‘I can no longer get an alto out.’

And it is like this for a hundred thousand things; if you start to feel that, and you are faced with the reality, now, madam, then a wonder will happen.

You see, another stairs, another awakening.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof?’

Yes, sir.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘If something like that now breaks through for the clergymen, will they no longer be able to say something from that pulpit on that area?’

You see ... ‘This lady was now affected as a singer, but if ...’

Sir, I will tell you something else.

I have the fortune, there near Nijmegen there is a priest who no longer wants to act the priest.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Wonderful.’

He says: ‘They can just do what that Jeus said’, he had read Jeus, ‘they can get the ‘droodles’.’

He says: ‘Because I go against everything.

Then I just leave.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘That is worth an applause.’

‘Do you still need a place to keep a bicycle?’ he says, ‘a shed, then I will do that.’

It will come gradually.

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

‘Sir, should I start to talk about damnation?

I will get a lesson, I will get a confession, I will get a sermon built up, I must talk about that today.’

Or did you think that the priest could talk away so much?

He says: ‘It is all about damnation.

It can no longer come out.’

A lady comes from Haarlem recently, she goes to her priest, then she says: ‘Father, I must ask you something. You were my father and everything.’

‘Yes’, he says, ‘what is the matter?’

‘I read books and now I want to ask you: what do you think about that?’

‘Should you be here asking me about that?’ he says.

He says: ‘What are those books called?’

‘A View into the Hereafter.’

‘By Jozef Rulof?

I have seven of them, child.

But they may not know that there.

All truth.

But if I begin with that’, he says, ‘we cannot upset Rome.

I have finished reading seven of them.’

Had given him too ... his children, not his children ...?

His followers had given him them and asked: ‘Father, may I read that?’

He starts to read himself first.

Then he says: ‘Just give me a few of them.’

Recently I heard from someone else, he is there near Nijmegen, children were brought up for the Catholic church there, weren’t they?

The ‘Grebbe Line’ went there from hand to hand.

And in Maastricht too.

In Maastricht, you know?

It continues gradually.

You will not rid the world of this, because there is no damnation; and because that is the truth, you will not get rid of that anymore.

Do you see?

Just as you will not get rid of the bible, you will not get rid of that either, because Moses was born.

But, now there is also only this: it was not God.

God never talked as a human being.

Well, He spoke as a human being.

(Someone says something, briefly, it is incomprehensible.)

No, it was you, sir.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘It could be, yes.’

No, it was not someone else, the human being himself.

But not ...

God suddenly walks next to Noah.

He comes there, and lets Moses see the bramble bush, and all the things He lets him see.

God walked on earth as a human being, always talked like a human being.

You see, now the human being, the academic, the theologian, the theologian as a professor, is attached to a god who is like a human being, was a human being.

And it is not that.

We get that now, by means of Diligentia: cosmology.

And if the world accepts this, sir ...

No, the world must not accept that, the world must experience that.

And if the world in which we now live at present is that far, our mankind, do you not feel that every faculty can begin?

Every human being of God, every spark must accept this, must!

They gave us the laws infallibly.

And that which madam there says, and what this says, she wants this and says: ‘Oh, sir, too good to be true.’

Four weeks later, sir ...

Look, there you have that.

Sir, what is that?

And sure enough, you are warned.

Our inner core can always warn us.

And every murderer was still always warned beforehand like this or that: ‘Do not do it.’

Because you feel that, it lives in you.

Do not believe it, sir, when the human being says: ‘I love you.

Without you, sir, I cannot live.’

Soon you will leave, they will even kick you out onto the street.

Should you be angry?

No, sir.

But we live above our intellect.

We all have megalomania in society.

What are you?

Are you not going a touch too high?

Are you an artist?

Now, then you must just follow the artists.

There are some, who cannot even earn the tuition fees.

But it is they.

Recently I gave you a nice picture: he was tinkling on the piano.

It is sad enough.

Then the wife says: ‘Husband.’

Now, he almost burst, because she was disturbing him in his inspiration.

She comes once more, the wife comes back three times, and then he became so furious, then he took hold of her, and she was thrown out the door.

Then sir came to her at half past twelve, one o’clock, he was almost finished playing, he says: ‘Is the food ready?’

Now, she stands there looking.

‘The food ready?

Well’, she says, ‘I went to you three times for money.

Now just make it yourself, or just eat your piano.

You were not allowed to be disturbed, after all.’

Look, now we are already abnormal.

Why can you not be disturbed?

Is the mother not more useful, with her children, if she prepares food for yourself and for her?

What is more useful now?

When we experience harmony, a philosophical system for harmony?

By being in harmony for millions of things.

Now we go from that horrible, poor society to the laws of God, the bible, the other side, cosmos.

Now, sir, what do we still have to learn?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘We will not get bored so quickly.’

Gruesome, yes.

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘We will not get bored so quickly.’

No, you will never be bored again.

Which one of you? Who has anything else?

(Gentleman in the hall); ‘Yes, Mr Rulof, I have something, but it is nothing to do with this ...’

Sir, just go ahead. If there is nothing else, then we will go into it.

(Gentleman in the hall); ‘An acquaintance of mine is Roman Catholic, very delicate, and he ... not invented himself, an instrument in order to ... a child ...’

Speak up a bit, then the microphone will also hear it.

(Gentleman in the hall); ‘ ... a new instrument was invented in order to baptise the child in the mother ...’

(A bit of a din in the hall, there is talking through each other.)

Is it really the case?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, but I did not see it.’

An acquaintance of yours?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

An academic?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

An engineer?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, an ordinary little man.’

An ordinary little man.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘A very simple type.’

That man says that an instrument has been designed in order to baptise the child in the mother?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, then they can splash liquid there.

And then say: In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit ...’

In other words, then that child is still not contaminated when it is born?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Precisely, in case it dies ...’

(People are all talking at the same time)

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘According to the Roman Catholic church the life of the child goes above ...’

If it was to die, then at least it is already baptised?

Then it is kept for God?

(Gentleman in the hall reacts.) Oh yes.

That was probably a fanatic follower of the V.P.R.O. broadcasting cooperation or a Protestant.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Not the V.P.R.O.’

Oh. Catholic?

But would the V.P.R.O. have nothing to do with it either?

(Hall): ‘No.

No chance.’

No chance.

(laughter)

But that also concerns damnation. They are still not giving up damnation, are they?

And baptism and confession and circumcision, and whatever else.

(Hall): ‘Baptism, but ...)

(People are all talking at the same time.)

But now the question comes.

Wait a moment.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Now my question is about that: will that remain fixed like that, that idea of that baptism? Does that really mean anything?’

No, nothing.

Look ...

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I thought so too.’

No, nothing.

But it means something.

I have been asked this question many times here.

When you went to the town hall, then you said from the bottom of your heart to your loved one ‘yes’, didn’t you, when he said: ‘Do you love her?’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

(There is laughing in the hall.)

And she also said: ‘Yes.’?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, I was not standing there telling lies, that is true.’

(There is warm laughter.)

No, sir, but now I assume that it is still ‘yes’.

Now, is it still ‘yes’?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, still.’

But how many people have in three, four months, or five ... that ...

There are people who have forgotten that after 20 years.

And they said: ‘Yes.’

Now, that ‘yes’, they do not think about destroying that; but that does not even exist anymore.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

Now, that word is now law.

You will feel, if we stand before nature, come to stand before the laws of nature, then it is finally, one day, and always and eternally: yes or no.

If they then say: ‘Destroy it’, then we say: ‘No.’

‘And will you love that, and will you propose that? And will you give that light?’

‘Yes, yes, yes.’

Now we assume, and we are also saying that now, this is why they tie us to society ...

Because that man is right, there in the Javastraat (town hall), who connects us there.

He thinks: ‘Yes, you can pull as many fast ones as you like, but not on me, I will record it.’

Because four weeks later that ‘yes’ no longer has any meaning.

But that would now be exactly the same as the baptism for God.

Because the human being is baptised ...

They already introduced that before Christ.

But Christ was baptised.

They asked me that many times here, and the masters say this: ‘There is something to it, but it is all force.’

If you connect yourself to a church, then your ‘yes’ must remain ‘yes’.

But that is not necessary, because inwardly you will already show and materialize that you are really a church servant, and possess a faith which obeys everything.

But baptism means nothing else for the church, that attaching you by means of that ‘yes’ – which you also do for your marriage – to the church.

Then you also have, and you see, that rope, or that chain, and whatever it is. That thread, you cannot break that so easily.

Because you are ignorant.

You have let yourself be committed divinely.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, exactly. But that baptism happens to a child which is totally a minor, unconscious.’

Well, but that is in the hands of the father, or the mother. They can say: ‘Like that and like that and like that.’

Later, when that child is of age, then that child says: ‘I have nothing to do with that baptism.’

Or it knows, or it starts to learn, it is a sensitive being.

At that time that baptism already lapses, and all those other things, because the human being says: ‘Just go away.

I have now got to know God.

I read books, and I read this, I know how nature was created, and how I was born myself, I now know that.’

But that baptism, which goes back for centuries, which Christ also has to do with, means nothing else than connecting the human being with something higher, the higher spiritual conscious ‘yes’ for life, for the soul, for the spirit, for the personality, because we still do not understand our own ‘yes’.

So it is nothing else.

It has no meaning for God, but for yourself, in order to tie you nicely to the church, to that baptism, to that confession.

What is a confession?

And then that minister asks: ‘And will you do this?’

‘Yes.’

‘And will you do that?’

‘Yes.’

‘And you will not do that, will you?’

‘No, no, minister, I will not do that.’

But then there comes: ‘Good heavens, what a fool that man made of me.’

After four, five years they say: ‘Minister, just go away with your confession.

A fat lot I care.’

Now, confession gone, baptism gone, and all the other things.

You will feel: it takes us back to the inner life for the human being, and then we have to do with spirit, space, God and Christ, and then everything in the world which has to do with harmony, goodness ‘Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.’

And when we make it into a ‘no’, and we could perhaps not give ourselves, we do not have the strength to deal with that, then we pull and pick something off that ‘yes’, until there is nothing left of it.

But then that other club stands next to the door and next to the church, which is then called damnation, and you will not sin.

And then that is all added, in order to keep us in that believing.

Because the human being does not know himself.

The actual human being has nothing to hold onto himself.

The actual human being knows nothing for himself.

So those things, that baptism and all those other things for the church, originated because the human being did not have any hold for himself, and it is no more than that.

But when you become aware, sir, then you can put it down there in the corner, because it has no meaning.

You see, I am going round it a bit and then you will have everything.

But what is baptising?

This is why I started with you.

If you know that your ‘yes’ is ‘yes’ ...

Look, and that must change anyway in the future.

If we love ...

How many people have ...

I have experienced a lot of people – Frederik talks about it in ‘Masks and Men’ – when I was a chauffeur.

A father comes: ‘Oh, oh, Jozef, I have a son, I have a son!’

Almost mad.

‘Would you also like a cigar?’

I say: ‘Yes, sir.’

‘Some pancakes too, sir?

Yes, chauffeur, wine, a glass of beer, and pancakes, and what would you like?’

I say: ‘Just give me one piece of sausage and cigarettes.’

‘Oh, just eat, just drink, sir, I am so happy.’

Now, I am two years at the garage, three years pass, I get that gentleman one morning.

I say: ‘Sir, how are you?’

He says: ‘God, I have been separated for a year and a half.’

Now, wife happy. What flowers.

Sir, what kind of ringleaders are we?

What kind of ignorant people are we?

Why did that man not know that he would chase his wife out the door in a year and a half’s time?

Why did she not know that her happiness was not real?

Why did he parade megalomania, when he just wanted to treat everyone because of his happiness?

He had a son son son son.

He says: ‘And then I also have a psychopath.’

He says: ‘Well, well, well, sir.’

And the whole of society is like that, sir.

When are you really responsible in your happiness and your joy?

Just do not come to me, sir.

I still have people ...

I have experienced that for thousands of things.

And you will perhaps not experience it like that.

But I can give the human being spiritual happiness, can’t I.

Just come to me, sir. And he could crush me to death from happiness, couldn’t he?

But try going into that.

I do not want your happiness, but I do not want your destruction either, sir.

I flatly refuse.

I have paid my tuition fees for that, from all that joy, and all that ‘How great it is, and great!

Oh, sir, how nice that is.’

Four weeks later you could buy the books back in the Jewish community, or they were lying in the street gutters of the city.

I say: just go into it. I will take myself into consideration.

This is why I recently said to you, ladies and gentlemen: sorrow, suffering and misery and perfectly ordinary people are much easier to experience, and that is much simpler, than to deal with happiness.

Real happiness, that lady there experienced that.

Then you begin to doubt.

‘Too good to be true’, sir.

Society is one and all deception after all.

But we do not know ourselves.

When do you know that you can really represent the joy in the human being for yourself, society, fatherhood, motherhood, light, life, space, God?

Can we do that?

Do you know yourself as a human being?

It says here: ‘Know Yourself.’

There is no one in the world who knows himself if that human being does not possess the moon-consciousness, hereafter.

You have twenty books there, you can now read them from me.

But you can read two thousand of them, and then you will still not be conscious, because you must master it.

When can you say to the human being: ‘I saw you today, you gave me inner happiness, a kiss’?

Can you go into that, and say: ‘That is truly eternal’?

Do we already have eternal friendship ready for the human being?

Now, do you see?

Just start analysing during this year.

I have also been for two days, I have now been for two, three days ...

I started because of it, I think: well, I will go along, I will think, think, think, think for hours, think.

My God, I think, how happy I am that I am still here.

Yes, not for my being, not in order to work, I do not have any expectations about that; but in order to be, that I am still sitting here in that same chair which I had twenty years ago.

I say: ‘Did I write that, that?

Made those paintings and everything?

My God, my God, that is impossible.’

How happy I am, sir.

Do I have megalomania?

Now, sir, at those moments then I will ring the neck of that megalomania.

I want nothing to do with megalomania.

Because it does not belong to me.

But the megalomania in me does: my God, my God, what did the masters make of me, what did they teach me: consciousness.

To learn to appreciate your wife, the wife the husband, if you still have each other here, if you know that you possess the love which continues ‘behind the coffin’.

Or back, or through.

One day you will stand before each other, for God, for Christ; you will get all of that.

That is New Year consciousness, and that is eternal.

Shaking a hand: ‘Happy New Year.’

Sir, do not let yourself be made a fool of.

‘Yes, ha ...’ Oh yes, sir, do not kill me this evening.

They broke my hand.

Why would we do that?

Just do it from inside, like that, real from inside, just like Mohammed, from inside, madam.

Haha, ‘Best wishes for the New Year.’

Is that okay now?

Now it is okay.

Did you have anything else, sir?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

We drifted off the good ones.

Ladies and gentleman, do you have anything else?

Can I get rid of anything else?

I will tell you one thing honestly.

On Saturday evening, the last week before New Year: twenty guilders, twenty-five guilders, forty guilders, fifty guilders, a hundred guilders, twenty guilders, fifteen guilders, twenty-five ... All through the letter-box, for ‘Jeus III.’

I want to thank those people, from the whole year.

There are some who keep coming back.

We are making great progress.

I hope to come that far this year that I may soon lay ‘Jeus III’ in your hands and then my task for the books will be finished.

‘The Cosmology’, I don’t know about that, that is not in my hands. That is the possession for the new mankind.

But ‘Jeus III’ is still on my back, and I will get it published.

I hope that a wonder will also happen this year, but the people are busy.

Ladies and gentlemen, if you are part of it ...

It is going to that left-hand side, and then it will lie for ‘Jeus III’.

New Years Eve: flop.

New Years Day: ssh.

We hear them so quietly.

And then we do not go and look.

They sneak upstairs, then they think: ‘They cannot hear anything.’

No.

The people say: ‘Listen.’

The radio is playing something.

I say: and then we look through the wall like that, and then we see them leaving again.

If they do not want to know it, we do not look either.

But that ‘psss’, ‘ssh’ is nice.

It is worthwhile, madam, isn’t it?

They apparently know that I will not run off with their money.

But I will not do that either, you see.

If you notice that, madam, lady, then I will pull my heart out myself first.

I thank you warmly, you see, for all those beautiful feelings.

I say to master Zelanus: ‘Just look.’

Perhaps the spiritual millionaire will come, ladies and gentlemen, and we will make six films for mankind.

‘Jeus of mother Crisje’ is ready.

The manuscripts, the scenarios are ready.

Oh, my God, could I perhaps find a ‘Crisje’ here, someone who will play that Crisje?

(A lady begins to laugh.)

What are you laughing at?

From joy?

(She cannot stop laughing.)

Now say, really, now we want to know why she is laughing so loudly.

Sir, you are quite close to her, you are involved with her, ask her nicely.

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

She cannot do that now.

But it is meant well, because a good sound is coming from it.

Why are you laughing?

(Lady in the hall): ‘I would want to be mother Crisje myself.’

You?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Now, I will tell you, you are a bit like Crisje.

I have looked at you here, but you have something in the eyes here ...

Only, Crisje had bigger eyes.

Then we will have to find one in the Achterhoek.

And we must have a ‘Jeus.’

Soon the spiritual millionaire will come and he will say: ‘Gosh, Jozef, I received a sign from Our Lord.’

He will say: ‘All the Rockefellers of the world must come here.’

Well, if it does not happen, I will not ask for it ...

If it has to be, gladly.

That is my only longing, to also give mankind ‘Jeus.’

Did you see the film in West End?

(Hall): ‘Yes, sir.’

The majority?

Were you there?

They have a good film this week.

Yes, Danny Kaye, you must go to that, (laughter) then you will be raging.

But last week you could have seen ‘Tomorrow it will be too late’.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Oh yes, that is good.’

Madam, that was a great film.

The Danish are also bringing out another good film about people with tuberculosis.

But what lived in that, in ‘Tomorrow it will be too late’, that lies in ‘Jeus I.’

Then I started to look for ...

I told you it: ‘Mother, why are you so fat?’

Then she thinks: good heavens, good heavens, good heavens, what will happen now?

Then she says: ‘Now, Jeus, because the food tastes so good, doesn’t it?’

I say: ‘Yes, but I also like it, and I am as thin as a rake!’

And that is in that scenario, sir: if you do not laugh then, then I don’t know.

But perhaps it will come.

I thanked the people – I did not forget – I thanked you, and it is going towards ‘Jeus III’ if I may give you ‘Jeus III’ this year; I do not know.

The paper has become twenty-five times more expensive.

Do you know that?

And, ladies and gentlemen, it not even available.

I told master Zelanus, I said: ‘Do they not make any paper in heaven?

Just let a few rolls drop down.’

Did you have any questions, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘What is animal magnetism?’

Madam, animal magnetism is what you now see and feel.

Do you see that?

Animal magnetism means living aura, animal consciousness.

That does not mean that you have the consciousness of a dog and a cat, but the lower grade of becoming conscious and feeling, which begins from the jungle.

Animal magnetism, that is a word from Mesmer, he was a magnetizer in France.

Animal magnetism means nothing more than living human power, aura, radiance.

Now we know it, don’t we?

Now we still know nothing.

But it is living aura. And animal magnetism is also magnetism, but it is plasma, spiritual radiance.

It is life, love, feeling and growth.

It is construction, it is power, power.

What you see in space, by means of which everything originated, is the animal magnetism in the human being, that is the living fluid which the human being radiates.

Now we still do not know it.

Because you do not know what fluid is for that matter.

And what is life now?

And if you reach like that, then you will still not have it.

But you can sit on top of it.

You are sitting on your own life.

I am standing next to it now.

Yes, you look there, sir, but we were not actually talking about that.

Who asked me something just now?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Did we sleep on the moon?

No, I mean on Mars?’

(Jozef lets a silence fall.)

Yes.

Yes, that is not easy, you see.

Did we sleep on Mars?

Good question, sir.

(Someone says): ‘Yes.’

Yes, is that not a good question?

A bit far from home, Mr Bouma.

Mr Bouma, if you must sleep here, why would you not have to sleep there?

(Mr Bouma): ‘For the reason that the earth only – at least I thought that – makes night, and you must sleep at night. Because we are connected by means of sleep to the night.

And now I think that Mars does not make a night.’

Does Mars not make, do other planets not make a night?

(Mr Bouma): ‘I do not know.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘All of them.’

Do you not know that?

(Mr Bouma): ‘But I do know from the earth.’

Do you not know that the moon needs so much time in order to turn?

You do not see the moon on that and that side, do you?

It also sleeps on the other side, doesn’t it?

Everything has night consciousness, change.

That is only just ... That is called change.

Well, it is going so far from our home.

Everything in nature sleeps.

Why?

What is sleep actually, sir?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘You also just said it, didn’t you?’

Yes, I have said it a hundred times.

What is sleep?

(Several people from the hall): ‘Acquiring new powers.’

‘Disembodying.’

Yes, it is also that. It is also disembodying.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Unconsciousness.’

Yes, madam, it is also that, but it is not that.

(Hall): ‘Cooling down.’

What did you say?

(Hall): ‘Giving birth.’

‘Cooling down.’

What?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Cooling down.’

Cooling down.

Now we are ...

(Hall): ‘Giving birth ...’

Giving birth, did you say?

What is sleep?

Yes, madam, it is fatherhood and motherhood.

Sleep is nothing else than – and you will immediately agree with me – reincarnation.

You see, you have an ordinary night’s sleep, but that also belongs to your organism.

And soon you will go to sleep, and then that belongs to your reincarnation.

But every sleep is a part of the universal reincarnation, which you will soon experience when you are placed in the coffin and you get a nice ribbon in your hair, you know?

The ladies will get a nice ribbon in their hair, a flower.

Men may keep their lips open, but not the ladies anymore, we press them closed.

Because, people in the jungle thought that, ladies talked too much; but the men were always the ones talking.

But it is evolution, madam, reincarnation.

Every time that you nap for five minutes – nice, isn’t it? – then you nibble a bit off that eternal evolution, in order to make the leap with and by means of your last nap.

Isn’t that nicely put, madam?

It is just like a doughnut ball from New Years Eve.

But it is true, because when that doughnut ball is finished – then you can also make science of that again, Mr De Wit – because when that doughnut ball is finished, then it also dreaming, and sleeping, and then you get the same evolution as the human being experiences.

But every nap, every half hour’s sleep, is a taking part of the kilos which you experience in feeling during your whole life.

And at the last leap – perhaps you will no longer sleep – then you enter a complete sleep, and you go out of it again: you either continue consciously, then it is also the spiritual birth, or you get a new existence.

The sleep infallibly takes you back into the maternal body.

Did you not know that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, it is giving birth.’

Yes, you see.

And now you are still not so long here, and there are a great deal sitting here, who do not know it, and they have read all the books, and there are some who have been to six, seven hundred lectures, and they jolly well did not know it.

Do you see?

My compliments, almost top marks.

Ladies and gentlemen, am I getting anything else?

Sir?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, Mr Rulof, one night we had a lively dispute with other people and it was about the condensing of the moon.

I said: we condensed the moon, also Mars, also the earth.

It was not condensed when we came, but we condensed it.’

Yes, sir. And what did they say then? ‘Just ...’

Did you tell that to the other people?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Mr Bouma, then you are right.

(Mr Bouma): ‘Well now.’

(There is warm laughter.)

Yes, look, ladies and gentlemen, this is what happens if you begin with these things.

And I used to be that pleased when master Alcar asked me a question and I think: oh.

‘We are making progress’, he says.

But, sir, you will now get nearly full marks.

But that other one, about the moon, whether we sleep there, that is going too far away. But you are right about this.

But can you also tell them, sir, why you are right?

(Gentleman in the hall); ‘Yes, but they do not want to believe that.’

No, which law do you experience then when you say: ‘We condensed the moon’?

How did you condense it?

(Gentleman in the hall); ‘How did we condense it?

Well, by means of birth and dying that moon condensed.’

The rotting processes.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.

And in addition ...’

Where did you get that? From the books?

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

‘The Origin of the Universe’?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, and from ‘Masks and Men’.’

Yes, it does not say it as sharply.

But you are right.

We will soon get that in Diligentia.

You should listen carefully, and then you will hear how infallibly right Mr Bouma is.

But the moon ...

God divided himself as Mother and Father, didn’t he?

Then fatherhood was released as an independence, and motherhood.

Then the moon started – that became the moon, didn’t it? That became the first cosmic grade – it started to condense itself by means of the sun, and it continued to revolve under the sun like that, didn’t it?

So.

It did not do that, but it remained spinning, like that.

Why?

You will get that later again. If the moon had done that, that life would not have reached heating; that would have cooled down, and it would have smothered, so that evolution would have been disturbed.

This is why the academics says: ‘Why can we not see the other side of the moon?’

If the earth had done that later, like that, and if the earth had not revolved, then we would have burned, because the sun would have been too strong.

How that fits together, doesn’t it?

But perfectly simple, sir.

And these are cosmic truths.

They are still not known in the whole world.

This is why I often shout; but then the people say: yes, yes.

And I tell those things, but they will only discover them in a hundred thousand years, not before, because the masters must tell it. And then they say: ‘My God, my God, how simple it is.’

If the earth had not made any spins, then the earth would cool down; no, sir, that is the birth, reincarnation.

By means of sleep, by means of the cooling down you get reincarnation.

And then we absorbed so much of that moon, became cell, start to die, and that continued, millions, millions, millions of times, until we became the fish stage, fish.

Then we had survived the moon.

And we had the moon ...

The moon gave us soul, spirit; and we change that soul and spirit into material, and in this way we gave the moon consciousness, as a personality.

And this is why you are right.

And now you also have?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I am reading ‘Masks and Men’, in the third part ...’

Yes, there is something about that in there. But ‘The Origin of the Universe’ gives you a broad picture.

(Lady in the hall): ‘May I ask something?’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Mr Bouma, may I ask you something?’

Yes, Mr Bouma is becoming a professor.

Now, a follower.

(Lady in the hall): ‘But, listen now, when the first embryonic life, the cell life, began on earth, how far was the earth then prepared by means of the moon and the sun?’

(Jozef says): How far, yes.

Do you not know that?

Yes, if a human being only drops in here, they say: ‘What conceited chaps and ladies and gentlemen they are.’

Do you not know that?

We behave as if we know everything, but we do not know it.

There were people here, for the first time, who later said: I will never go back there again, because they are megalomaniacs there. Because they are talking about the moon, condensing of the moon, and condensing of the planetary system, while there the astronomer with all his telescopes searches right, left and centre and does not know it.

But we know it, here in Holland, in the Ruijterstraat, in The Hague.

And if you hear that ...

It just costs a quarter, you know.

And then a conceited person like that from Gelderland is standing telling you that he knows it!

And then you really become afraid.

But we know it.

You now ask, and imagine ...

We will really have to record those things, and you will not need anything else.

Jozef Rulof said this by means of the masters – not from myself -: the earth as an astral ball was spiritually condensed as far as the moon possessed in consciousness, and also the sun.

So the sun as light. But the moon by means of her life: fish stage.

And then the life went even further, and even further.

But the moon had nothing left.

And then other planets were added, secondary planets, then Mars came, then Saturn came, and Venus and Jupiter.

They could no longer do anything for the earth, because the earth is the child of sun and moon.

And the earth got from sun and moon, father and mother, expansion.

Do you perhaps not believe that, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, I believe that.’

But then I will prove it to you.

I will prove it to you physically.

(Sound technician): ‘Another two minutes.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Another two minutes.’

Another two minutes.

In the jungle that mother and father got a black child, didn’t they, with that blood, with that consciousness.

But we get white consciousness and feeling here, we have Christ and everything.

But this body is different to the child in the jungle.

In other words, you possess the human white race consciousness (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org), and that woman in the jungle the primal instinct.

And the earth got that from sun and moon, when the earth began with her development. By means of Mars and the other planets which served for the universal fatherhood and motherhood, the earth got that consciousness as life aura, madam, that animal magnetism, in her hands.

And that astral ball absorbed that and had exactly the same development as we mastered by means of the bodies; we absorbed so much feeling for our cell life. And then the earth divided itself as a planet, and the earth began; and that is by means of our existence.

Because if we had not taken anything from the earth, sir, don’t you think, then the earth would not have reached condensing either.

Isn’t that clear?

But this is cosmology, which will come back soon.

My sisters and brothers, my ladies and gentlemen, see you on Sunday morning in Diligentia.

I thank you for your benevolent attention.

If I talk for another half an hour, my cold will be gone.

See you.