Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

(Hall): ‘Good evening.

I have here for the first time: ‘Russian wisdom.

Radio Moscow has announced that Russian academics have proven that the moon is slowly but surely crumbling away as a result of collisions with meteors.’

This is nonsense of course, because collisions ... If something collides here on the earth – I do not grasp those academics, I do not understand those people – if something collides here on the earth, then the earth holds onto that, then it would have to jump back, but that does not happen.

And now they write here that meteors ended up on the moon and then something is crumbling away ...

Where is that piece heading?

The moon still has gravitational force, they say themselves, but when you go through space with a rocket, then the moon will attract you again.

That is not possible, because the moon perfectly simply dissolves.

That means: gradually everything decays.

And that will still take millions of years.

The moon is dying.

The academics still do not know why the moon is dying.

If the academics could accept this, they would be open to the macrocosmos.

But the academics will agree with me here.

It also says: ‘Each time when a meteor collides with the moon, it takes a part of the substance of the moon into the cosmic space.’

That is not possible.

But now there also comes: ‘Professor Nikolaï Fortsjikev ...’ Is that proper Russian?

Fortsjikev, well, we will just give him a name ‘ ... established ...’ (A lady says something) What did you say?

Fortsjikèv.‘ ... that the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune only consist of gas, mainly hydrogen, and were not, as was assumed up until now, fixed bodies, surrounded by a dense atmosphere.’

So, sir, you know something about cosmology.

Master Zelanus already told that five years ago in Diligentia.

We are gradually being proved right again.

Some planets are balls of gas, and they have no life.

And then you should soon get a hold of ‘The Cosmology’.

All the things I am proved right about, sir?

The masters are proved right in hundreds of thousands of things, their word is law.

And I saw those laws; I will give my life for them.

(Jozef continues to read.) ‘The academic V.N.Sukachev ...’ Yet another one. ‘ ... Sukachev, has proposed ... the trees ...’

Oh, that is something else, that has nothing to do with the cosmos. He is talking about trees.

But you see that the astronomers are gradually coming to ‘The Peoples of the Earth’, that means, there is already some of it in there, but mainly to the books ‘The Origin of the Universe.’

And later if you – then we will go into that more deeply – can read ‘The Cosmology’ ...

Let’s hope that it will still happen in this life, at least in my life, because that will cost a ton at the moment, and we do not have that.

Yes, tons enough, with herring and fish and everything, but with money, do you see?

Then you will be very surprised, ladies and gentlemen, when you read that.

There the whole macrocosmos is analysed to the last cell, minutely, as clear as crystal.

Yes.

And here the lady, Mrs Era also writes: ‘I just read the enclosed piece in “Het Vaderland” (a newspaper) ...’ I had also read it. ‘“ ... Russian wisdom” it says at the top, but you, Jozef, were far ahead of them.’

And I come from ‘s-Heerenberg, are you taking that into account?

I am Jeus of mother Crisje.

What a piece of proof for the truth of the wonderful teachings which we are able to listen to.

People, you do not nearly understand what you are getting.

The masters say it themselves.

If only we could write books, books, books.

What should we do, later ... ‘It is no longer necessary’, master Alcar says, otherwise we will write a thousand books.

Because when the direct voice instrument comes to the world, then the earth will have contact with the other side, then the masters will speak, and then it will be dictated.

He says: ‘Why would we work you to death completely?’

They do not have the money in the first place.

But for millions of situations, for problems, now here, the masters are proved right, and they can analyse everything.

There is no spiritual academic on earth who can compete with the masters.

The astronomers can come, the biologists can come, every spiritual faculty, the theologians, the theosophy, the Rosicrucians; they can come to the masters.

The theosophy, the Rosicrucians have no contact with Masters who have immediately influenced that human being, otherwise those people would have made it.

And they are still searching for that.

Here we say: it is the case!

Master Alcar says; ‘Can you see yourself ‘behind the coffin’?

You live, I live, there is no damnation.

Knock that out of the human soul.’

If only we could talk in the churches, but then I would be hung for that matter.

And that stops the evolution – I have a letter here, I will read it out soon – that stops the evolution of mankind, one leap.

Imagine that the whole world had to accept: yes, there is reincarnation.

You see your father and your mother again.

Now you must dwell on this fact for a moment, which you all know.

There is no longer a grave, that black suit goes away, that misery goes away.

How sorrowful a human being is?

Which unconscious world will the human being enter if the human being must go and bury the human being and you do not know the life?

Now they are standing there ...

I have laughed at that since I was a child.

I went along ...

Later I walked, when someone in our village died – not only with Crisje or Tall Hendrik – but if someone died later - then I quickly sneaked my way up the graveyard, and then I went and stood and I saw that person there several times, and then I stood laughing and then they chased me away.

‘That one of Tall Hendrik is laughing again’, they said.

I cannot help it, that is ridiculous.

Now for a human being who does not know those laws, who does not know that life, that is extremely harsh.

Then they say: ‘What bastards they are, they do not even have respect for a corpse.’

But dear God, that is not a corpse.

Yes, that is a corpse, but the human being is not a corpse.

What do we know?

What did we get?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Is there something the matter with that, Mr Rulof?’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Is there something the matter, when they break down in the area of fatherliness and motherliness of the planets?

Then they give away the lot, which they ... from the books ...’

You are getting revelations at the moment in Diligentia.

But which lectures of those four hundred lectures which master Zelanus gave, about the cosmos sometimes ...

And then he takes a picture there, and there a picture, he says: ‘Now cosmology seems extremely difficult.

That seems so, but that is not difficult.

The lectures which we gave were much more difficult than cosmology.’

Because now he is in his life.

Now he is the cook.

In order to give a lecture, a taster from here and there, and there a law and there a law, in order to bring that together ...

He gave you hundreds of scenes and by means of that he built up a world, finished that world, started to analyse that world, brought it to the human being, talked about fatherhood and motherhood, also talked about love and then a tremendous end came.

You should listen to those lectures, there are thousands of problems in them.

He made a whole from them in order to give the human being something again.

And now he can indulge himself, now he can give cosmology.

And cosmology, ladies and gentlemen, that lives in us.

That is not so far away, because that universe is really not so far and so deep; that lives in the human being.

‘If this’, you also write, ‘is in one of your books’, there is a bit of it in ‘The Origin of the Universe’, ‘I would like to go to the newspaper.’

But that will not help you.

I was just talking about it to a gentlemen, and he was at Philips, and he was busy with the academics, and he asked me at that time: ‘Come, Mr Rulof.

I am talking about you.’

I say: ‘Good, I will come, just prepare an evening.’

And that did not go ahead later.

He says: ‘They are not worth it.’

Then you talk, you talk, you talk ...

I come with cosmic wisdom, I say this and I say that, the masters speak, such tremendous revelations, and the people do not know it, so it does not get through to them.

Yes, when it is that far, then they says: ‘Good grief, what kind of person was that?’

Yes.

But then it is not me, then it is the masters.

(Jozef continues to read.) ‘Forgive me, Jozef, but I must let you read this.’

I had also read it.

I thank you warmly.

You see, ladies and gentlemen, Jozef Rulof says, and that happened on that morning: ‘Hundreds of planets are balls of gas.

They are bodies like your plant in the aquarium’, master Zelanus said.

And now they must agree with us.

Yes.

I have here: ‘Last week you gave us an explanation about the person who is born blind, about which we were able to receive a wonderful explanation.

This was a spiritual explanation, for which I am very grateful to you and master Alcar.

The bible says about this in Joh.9: ‘And He saw a blind man walking past, blind since birth; and His disciples asked him, saying: “Rabbi, who has sinned, this one or his parents, that he ... blind ...”’ You see, there you already have a question of inheritance. ‘“ ... that he should be born blind?”’

Jesus replied: ‘Nor did he sin, nor his parents, but this happened so that the Divine works would be revealed in him.”’

But who understands this?

(People talk at the same time.)

(Lady in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof, since the human being comes higher up because of suffering.’

Yes, but I ask you that ... Look, who understands this from the Catholic church or Protestantism? Which Protestant understands that?

Look, because they put so much in Christ’s mouth. Because then you can continue to remove.

Here Christ says again, that is Christ: ‘So that the Divine works would be revealed in him.’

By means of a beating?

By means of destruction?

By being blind?

Is that Christ’s word?

Must Christ come to the earth with that: ‘You will be beaten to pieces, you will be blind, you will perish by means of cancer and tuberculosis and leprosy and cholera, or you will not get to know God, or God cannot reveal himself in you’?

Christ did not say that.

But there are thousands and thousands of sayings like that in the bible, they put them together humanly.

How can a Divine Conscious say such a thing?

Do you hear that from masters who are in the light?

Is this a language of love, this?

Should a human being really first be materially destroyed a hundred thousand times, and is it only then that the divine revelations can awaken in the human being?

How is that possible?

Who wrote this?

Who said this?

Christ again?

In this way people have put things on Christ’s lips, that absolutely points to hatred, lust and unconsciousness.

And do you wish to accept that Christ was an unconscious being?

If we go into those laws severely, then people will say about us: we are so harsh.

You must do it even more softly, you must not be so severe and make the matter ridiculous.

Who is making the Christ ridiculous here?

This is making the Christ ridiculous, but not even the human being. But they make Christ ridiculous with this.

Just like that terrible Gethsemane: ‘Let this cup pass from Me.’

And Christ lay there somewhere in space, in that Gethsemane.

It is night time, there is no one around Him.

The apostles, who must watch over Him, are lying sleeping.

But He said that: ‘Let this cup pass from Me.’

No one was there.

Who heard that?

Why did they say that?

Who gives them the right to talk about Christ like that?

Do you see?

You should come to the other side, you should see the master, how awe-inspiring ...

Do you not notice it? When master Zelanus talks about Christ, then it is as if space enters him, then he gets a power and he says: ‘I could wring that whole world’s neck, the spiritual neck.

If you see and hear’, he says, ‘how that wonderful Christ is raped, sullied and crucified every day, by means of the bible.’

Precisely by means of the bible, ladies and gentlemen.

It is not my work, but ...

Now they have published a new translation again.

Worked twenty years on it.

There is not a new note in it.

A new path?

No.

It would be even more clear for the human being.

Now you must imagine – understand properly, people – you are getting teachings here, which mankind will only get in a hundred thousand years’ time.

But every human being, every academic must soon accept this.

If you do not wish to accept the books ...

What is in them, those are laws.

Those masters are right.

And if they had not brought me ‘behind the coffin’ ...

There was something in the paper this week, those people – oh, here, you can also read it in ‘Vizier’ a couple of yogis, one stands there on his head, hours and hours, another pricks his body with things, they are pricked to pieces, almost; and those yogis want to get consciousness.

How easy do you not get it?

All destruction.

For years they ...

We thought for years that it lived in the East, ladies and gentlemen, but it does not live there.

The West now possesses it.

The East is not so conscious.

They can ... a cure ...

A good yogi knows the laws of the body.

They cannot disembody, but they can let themselves be buried.

You just have to read ‘Spiritual Gifts’.

But cosmic consciousness?

No, sir, they do not have that.

And we cannot get rid of it.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof?’

Yes, wait, I will come to you soon.

‘Jesus replied: “Nor did he sin ...”’

You see, that man has ... “‘Nor did he sin, nor his parents.’”

So were they completely pure?

Oh, if you start with that, ladies and gentlemen – and Christ included – then you should see what comes from that.

Oh oh oh oh, they must make up for that ‘behind the coffin’.

‘“This happened so that the Divine works would be revealed in him.”’

Because you must first be beaten blind, you must first be completely destroyed, be physically broken.

Then is a doctor at present who helps people get rid of tuberculosis, and cancer, even higher than the Christ?

Just continue.

Is that true?

Do you understand this?

We have people with scriptural knowledge amongst us, elders, one, a very big one, a boy who has wandered the whole world and has asked Japanese and Chinese, Mohammedans and everything, over the whole world: ‘What do you know about God?’

And then someone from here comes to him and he says: ‘Then I will send you God.

Just read that.’

Then he says: ‘My God, my God, I searched the whole world.’

Wept, wept, wept.

The sorrow of the human being who wants to know, do you know that?

The pain?

I have people sitting here who got consciousness in prison and started to feel that there was more than that, and they are grateful, they understand it.

But the sorrow of a soul, of a human being who seeks God and wants to get to know God and wanders the whole world and does not find and does not get to know Him ...

There are hundreds of thousands of gods; there is just One, and that One is real!

I would have beaten master Alcar from me with a club if he had come with such stories.

Where do I have that from?

Our lives must be that.

Yes, we were already busy in Egypt. But the feeling has lived in me, as a child; and we know that now, it has come out.

But such things ... I do not understand that those people do not want to think.

Master Zelanus talked about it this week in Amsterdam.

‘You cannot think’, he says to the people.

They thought it was a wonderful evening, wonderful.

All the things that were in it. I cannot do it like that.

He says: ‘I must teach you to think.

I am talking about cosmology.

I am talking about ...’

They talk about here, they talk about there, they talk about this.

But you cannot think.

You always think around the matter.

You will not make it through.

And then he gave the picture how you learn to think on the other side.

Isn’t that wonderful?

But how perfectly simple it is.

People just want to go to that space, people want to go to God; but we cannot think.

If only I could set up the school. But then I would need you in the morning, then I would need you in the afternoon and then I would need you in the evening.

If only I could set up that school here, then you would see, people, what you would change in one day.

Then I would at least be actively taking care of you.

And then it is no longer: ‘But, but, but, but ...’ then it is only just: ‘Yes.’

Every word is law.

If I had said ‘but’ once, I would stand still with the masters for ten years.

I have never said ‘but’.

And you parade with it day and night.

Just like this.

Start to read the bible and put aside the books, then you will enjoy the bible.

And then you can get exactly the true Christ out of it, and then He will speak differently for you.

The people with scriptural knowledge, those boys who have such awe-inspiring enjoyment from the bible at the moment, because they have twenty books lying next to it.

Do you see?

But you know that.

I have here: ‘Mr Rulof, until what age does a child go to the child sphere?’

From who is this?

Where are you?

Madam, if a child goes to the child spheres, then that can happen in seven minutes, seven hours, seven months.

When a child has possession, that means the first sphere or the second sphere, you will feel, then when it is released from ‘the coffin’ that child is no longer a child, but a human being; and it is not a human being either, but it is a grade of life, in which God himself lives.

We are gods.

And when that child arrives there ...

You can read it in the three books ‘A View into the Hereafter’, in II and III.

I saw my own child there and was able to hold it.

Then master Alcar says: ‘In a short time ... She can do it quickly, she can do it slowly ...’

But that child was already thinking consciously, because it is not a child, it is a master.

You also got that again in ‘The Cycle of the Soul’.

When master Zelanus, Lantos Dumonché, was born in China, then he died, then the life in the mother ended.

He closed himself off and he went back like that, and like that to his sphere; and then he was a human being, then he was already an adult.

Because you can go back like that, in only a millionth of a second, to the adult consciousness.

I experienced that, madam.

I have gone through hundreds and thousands of mothers with master Alcar.

Then I had to learn and to accept how the soul, by means of man and wife, from the world of the unconscious – that is the world for reincarnation – was attracted to the earth, and then we descended with that soul into the mother, and then we were as small as that embryo, so trivial.

But we continued to think.

Because you cannot descend into that cell temple as consciousness, large, where your cell lives and is fertilized, and at the same time ...?

That soul can already live in me, and already in you.

Because you often think of course, the human being often thinks ... They do not ask so many questions about that, but they are also cosmic questions. If you are one, then the human being thinks: Now that soul will come which we attract.

Did you know that?

Do you know that?

But you can be under the power of that soul for seven years already, madam.

You can still be a girl, then you are already in contact with motherhood. And then that soul is already finished, it already influences you, that birth is already busy, do you see? For years and years beforehand – that is already cosmically established – that soul has already been busy.

Then the awakening for the birth comes.

And then that soul takes, that life takes you infallibly to the person whom you must attract, that is also a part of that unity of man and wife.

That is so awe-inspiringly wonderful, madam, and so sacred and so beautiful, if you enter that.

If you, together, as man and wife, start to experience and start to feel, and start to see, start to know what will happen now when you experience the cosmic unity, the creating and giving birth for God.

Then you can really kneel down and pray, prepare yourself for the divine division, because it is this.

When we get the temple here on earth, then I will teach all of that to you.

And then Abraham said ... What is that other one called, that one, that woman?

She was 194 years and then she also gave birth to seven children ...

‘If you walk in that love ...’

I would say ‘Frederik.’

‘If you walk in that love’, Frederik says, ‘now I understand why that Eve of Abraham still got a chid at 190 years of age.’

Because in this love you are not old, he means.

And God can do everything?

No, then the human being can do everything, then you are one.

But a child, madam, which it concerns, it therefore goes to the spheres, stays there a while, and the more feeling and consciousness there is, this life awakens.

And when a child, madam – now you must listen, mothers and fathers – and when a child possesses happiness ...

Because a child always possesses happiness, a child never lives in the Land of Twilight and never in the Land of Hatred.

Or it goes back to the earth, or it goes straight through to the first, second, third sphere.

And when the mother has a little bit of a different attunement to the child, can hate and is impudent, and snarling and growling, then that child is already kept from your environment; because that mother who waits for and takes care of that child on the Other Side, is a hundred thousand times above the maternal love of the earthly human being.

If you now give a wonderful growing feeling to your child, but do not attract ...

If you just start to think: ‘I must have my child back’, that child can already not come to you, because then they already keep it away, because you will suck that child dry.

Because you love the child, you will suck the child dry.

Because that child is no longer your child there, it is here, and no longer there.

Here it still is your child. But there it is a divine independence, a God.

You look at children, but it is a deity, with an own independence and a world and consciousness.

Now a child becomes a bit different.

And I would so have liked to have had that in my life: to give that child everything, to let it rise above me, to be a friend, a companion, a master.

But not a father; I denied myself that irrevocably.

Because by means of fatherhood and motherhood the people have smothered the universal contact and consciousness completely, haven’t they?

Because you love paternally and maternally awe-inspiringly - you must do that - but you must know, surrender yourself to the space; you know, your child continues, you will see your child again; but ‘beyond the coffin’ it is no longer your child.

You stand for your child, and she also stands for you in this way.

I stood for my own child, and I could, I was able to descend into that life.

I think: Good grief, what will happen here?

And then there came: ‘Father, I am also your master for this moment.’

I say: ‘Yes, I see that.’

I had a friend, Gerhard the coachman, I knew him for years. That is in ‘Those who Returned from the Dead’.

When we stood for each other, I say: ‘Gerhard, now you must tell me what you told on earth, with that stick on that coffin of yours: boom, boom, boom, boom.’

The tears ran down his cheeks, only because that man had made nonsense: boom, boom, boom.

He knocked.

‘Haha’, he said.

‘Paulus Pielus’ they shouted at me at the garage.

But those ‘Paulus Pielus’ will come there today or tomorrow.

If you are there and your life has gone, your father and mother – they are children, but they are independences – then we must let go of them, do you see?

Those pathetic feelings of ours must go; they must not go, they must get universal space.

Is it not wonderful?

Who can give you that?

The bible?

Yes, if Christ really speaks, then you have that universal love.

Every word of Christ – now it will come – is dogmatically materialized.

There is almost no divine core – by means of Christ – to be found anymore.

If He says: ‘I and My Father are one’, but then you first go through the church, do you see?

And what now remains of that?

It would be pathetic.

(Jozef also reads): ‘And when they reach that age, where do they go then?’

Then the children go to their own attunement.

They enter a sphere where there is peace, a rarefied state.

If you see that, madam, then you will weep until your tears run dry; then you can say: it is sacred there.

But that is wonderful, to be in a sphere where no disturbances can penetrate, no mental capacity.

Because according to the consciousness of the children that sphere is mild.

They do not lie in baby baskets.

I can tell you wonderful stories about that, I will also let you weep this evening.

You should see how a child lives there.

Mothers often go there who have been beaten terribly by the loss, who disembody in thoughts.

Then they came back to me and said: ‘Mr Rulof, I saw my child last night.’

Yes, it is possible.

And then I saw in that aura that it was true, and then they had made a thought disembodiment.

But again: division of personality, half in the body, and she out of it.

‘And I saw that, the child was walking there.’

I say: ‘What was the sphere like?’

Then I could check that.

They were there.

And then the sorrow was ...

You see, if the mother ... again ...

That woman was good and wonderful. And if the life of feeling attunes itself to where the child goes, the mother can get contact with the life; because God wants that, that understanding comes.

But now you stand opposite these things, you feel, you cannot be reached now.

Now that whole church feeling must go from you.

You may keep that as long as you accept reincarnation, as long as you accept the conscious astral world; then you get contact again and the child can, the master can come back with the child and say: ‘There is mummy.’

But they do not give that child any grief.

If there is misery and we do not have that attunement, then just do not believe that a master there, the mother who takes care of that child, brings the child back to the earth.

And what is that taking care of?

That is only just talking, explaining the laws, as you now experience it.

They do not bring that child back to the earth, while they see there that there is someone there attracting and cannot accept that.

They do not need to come, because you do not accept that; that is demonic.

Isn’t it terrible?

Now the contact is not there, for the Catholic church, Protestantism, now the contact from the other side is not there, they do not know it; but if you accept it, then it is also demonic.

And then the mother must ...

That child does not live there, that child lives in that grave, or wherever.

You know those laws.

Don’t you think, madam?

Good grief.

I do not understand that the people can still accept this, in 1952.

But when another new translation comes of the bible, just believe that there are also hundreds of millions who still live consciously in there and cannot work it out for the time being.

But that is very simple.

Because the universe is according to human calculation, the earth is then thirteen, fourteen years old.

Mother Earth has just passed her puberty years.

Mother Earth – now another crazy word comes from Jozef Rulof – Mother Earth is precisely busy courting.

(laughter) It is true, isn’t it?

She is now beginning to look at space, which will influence her and will give birth.

If you come to the Ruijterstraat, then they say: ‘Oh, Mother Earth, she is courting.’

Are you still not crazy, ladies and gentlemen here?

Are you still not walking away from me?

If I am left with one, I will already be satisfied; if that one pays for the hall of course, because otherwise, because otherwise it will not work.

(laughter)

(Jozef also reads): ‘If a child passes on, then is their cycle on earth completed?’

Madam, when a child, when a human being goes to the Other Side and consciously enters the Other Side, the cycle of the earth is completed.

You will come across all of that in the books.

When the human being still has to come back, then the child dissolves immediately upon death, then the spirit already dissolves.

No master has to come and there are no mourners and there are also no people who must bring, must drive that soul to that world for reincarnation; that all happens of its own accord.

No one comes, that spirit dissolves, fades, because that world for reincarnation attracts the spirit; perfectly simple.

And then the child goes back, perhaps for five, six hundred, six thousand years, twenty thousand years.

Ladies and gentlemen, you are talking about a week, and a month, and a year, but ...

There are here people who must return to the earth.

And if you come back soon ...

That was not possible in the prehistoric age, then you could be beaten and kicked and tortured, under hot pitch.

And if you come back soon, one of us, then you will experience paradise, because the earth – Mother Earth and her children – gets consciousness.

But then no one is needed who must collect that child, madam.

If the cycle of the earth has been completed, then you continue, then you continue consciously.

A child – now you must listen carefully, now a difference comes – a child, a baby, from one to three, four, they are still unconscious.

But woe betide, if a child becomes six, seven years, a boy of ten, eleven, and you already get hatred, and you already see the character, and the evil is right on top of it, you can already see it, then you can be assured that they all have to come back; because it does not have a Land of Twilight.

From fourteen it can be the border of the Land of Twilight, then people can ... that child, if the giving birth comes, the puberty ...

For here it is puberty, for the universe it is consciousness.

If the human being, the spirit enters the conscious motherhood, we call that here the years of puberty, but that is the awakening for the Other Side; and you can talk to that child, and you can teach that child.

But if there is violence in that life, then you will feel, that child cannot live there, and it cannot live here and not there, it must come back, back to the earth in order to finish that life.

Now you can say, a boy, a child passes on purely because of an illness, many children also pass on because of accidents – don’t they? – but they are all births.

A birth which connects in one way or another with your evolution.

And all the things I am discussing here, madam, they are all books; books of five, six, seven hundred pages, if you want to analyse one such word, such a little question.

You will feel, I am leaping from there to here, I am also giving you a picture, that is necessary ...

When you start to analyse that cosmically ... Because the law lives in that. Not here, but in the cosmos, that means: in that deep evolution for the human being, that law lives in there.

Birth, reincarnation, fatherhood, motherhood, passing on early, leaving the earthly life, or you become sixty, seventy years.

But when, madam, I asked here, madam, mother, when is your life already over for the earth?

When?

I have asked that question several times.

When has the life already been experienced for a child, for the human being?

(To someone in the hall): Yes, madam?

(The lady says something. It is incomprehensible.)

You see, I talked about that.

If the child dies two days after the birth, then the life has already been experienced.

You can never experience and master more than the birth for the child.

We get a higher grade of evolution by means of the birth.

What you can master in this space, on earth, even if you become a professor for thousands of faculties, then you do not experience and you not achieve as much, lady, sir, madam, as by means of the birth, entering the mother, growing, going from the mother and dying.

That is the highest consciousness, and you see that for the human being.

And now you can learn and learn and learn, and study and study and study.

This is why this is so wonderful, because we no longer need to search.

I did not accept any theosophy and any teachings for the Rosicrucians – if I had not had this, I would never have started with it – because something lives in me; they are still searching for thousands of things.

Have you already noticed that we have analysed a situation weakly by means of the masters?

We can analyse it humanly, physically, spiritually, spatially and divinely.

Were you able to read that anywhere on the earth?

(To someone in the hall): ‘You have been with theosophy for twenty years, did they give you it there?

They do not come through, they do not come through.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof, what is the point that a child is attracted to the earth and dies again after two days?’

That is a perfectly simple, real evolution.

Look, I already say: even if you become sixty, seventy, eighty, and even if you achieve your art, and even if you achieve this, and even if you achieve that ... We now have the possibility thank God that the masters came back and say: ‘Do not commit suicide, because I experienced that.

You will go into the ground, you must experience a rotting, and a sorrow and a misery. Do not do that!

‘They come for that.

And of course the next remainder.

But now you can ... astronomy, now you can ... biology ... You now start to materialize the knowledge of the earth, the birth of the earth, the laws of growth, the laws of condensing, for a biologist, a geologist.

A theologian comes to the soul, to the life, to the spirit, doesn’t it, to God.

You can now master a study, but the birth itself for the human being, takes you infallibly back to God.

Even if you possess the knowledge of space and you do nothing for that ... Then you do not get any reincarnation, do you?

And you go slowly, through God, further, because that divine core – that is the infallible in the human being – because that divine core lives in us.

We are divine cores.

One human being is a divine spark, a divine independence; that independence takes itself back to the All-Consciousness.

Do you feel?

Infallibly of course by means of fatherhood and motherhood.

And what happened now?

Now we started beating and kicking, we built up illnesses, created disharmony, and now we have kicked ourselves out of that divine harmony.

And this is why it is now called that you can wait ten, twenty thousand years for one birth.

But in that birth – do you feel? – that lives in there, and we possess everything, everything, everything of space.

Master Alcar said to me: ‘If I convince one human being, really convince of life and death and God, then I will have achieved more than in all the years of my art.’ And he was Anthony van Dyck.

And it is true, madam, you can see Rembrandt again in the spheres.

I saw Rembrandt there.

I saw many of those great masters here.

He says: ‘If only I had had that and this, then I would have done it differently.’

Of course, we look at those beautiful things, it is something of the human being in order to depict.

‘But, to know what our life is like, they are products of creation’, master Alcar says as Anthony van Dyck, and Rembrandt says that, Titiaan says that, and Leonardo da Vinci and the great ones, ‘that is so awe-inspiring for the human being, in order to paint that, in order to materialize, to analyse that, that is the authority of space, and the highest possession for the human being.’

And it is true.

Because everything remains on earth.

You will soon look at what the minister, the theologian, the genius of the world here, what that genius possesses 'beyond the coffin'.

What are now the geniuses of the earth?

Well?

Those people are honoured and they are carried, aren't they?

Now just try ridiculing it.

Another boy like that, a soldier like that has died again; what is that man called?

They quickly make him a marshal and then we just go.

Now you should know what that man, that soul, that spirit has on his conscious.

He comes ...

Adolf ...

Is it an honour for us to become big on earth, for society, while you know that for hundreds of thousands of centuries – yes, they will come again anyway – we have consciously been destroying ourselves?

Isn’t it ridiculous?

Who can now accept and believe us?

Where are we going?

But when you have this, you should see how you start to see society.

The people who come here, they say: ‘Good heavens, good heavens, how stupid people are.’

But they did not know that two years ago.

I thought that people did not experience anything.

A while ago, I said: ‘They will not learn anyway, I will just stop.’

But they learn an awe-inspiring great deal, because I already get it every day.

And even if it is just ten.

Now they are only starting to see how narrow-minded the academics are.

Yes, there we are.

Jozef continues to read: ‘If parents experience that, that their child passes on, is that karma for the parents or evolution?’

I believe, madam, that I have answered those questions.

Do you also have a question yourself?

(To the hall): Do you have any questions about this?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Does a child there have the grief of passing on?

Never.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Did it never want to return to the mother?’

No, no.

Look, if that ... Yes, for a moment.

If you lose a child then the child leaves with your image in it.

And now it enters a great sacredness, a silence, a motherhood, a space.

They fly, they float, the masters take that child with them, and make a journey through space.

Oh, oh God, madam, in five minutes that child has already dissolved in that space.

If there is really love and it is necessary, then that mother also goes back to that mother on earth and says: ‘Look.’

And then that child gets the explanations within a short time which you now get.

And then that mother must tell: ‘Yes, that is your mother, but I am your mother and that is your mother, and she is your mother, and she there.’

And then you have millions of mothers.

We have known millions of mothers.

I am standing here as a man, but thousands of times – from the jungle to the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) – I have been a mother, I have given birth to children.

I have seen my lives.

And then you do not find that so strange, if you have five, six, seven children.

Then you get universal love, universal contact.

Do you feel, how wonderfully purely this gradually goes through the universe?

Is anything else possible?

It is not possible.

If that child has sorrow; that is dissolved in a few seconds.

When they show the child the reality, for example, then that child says: ‘What a lot my mother still has to learn.

I have already got it.’

If that child starts to think – is that far – and the mother can bring it back to the earth, then that child says: ‘What can my parents learn from me.

I am only seven years old.’

But that child gets a material within five minutes, by means of which she become seven thousand years old.

You learn on the other side within five minutes, you become hundreds of thousands of centuries older within five minutes.

One journey to the spheres made me a hundred thousand years older.

And now I have experienced the whole cosmos, madam.

I have made hundreds of thousands of conscious disembodiments.

If you read my ‘Cosmology’, you will become afraid of me – won’t you? – you become afraid.

You will not believe it, madam ... Then you wonder: ‘How can Jozef Rulof still live here?’

And that is now my skill.

Now and again I want to go up against the wall.

But I also still have the strength to hold onto myself.

But if you get ‘The Cosmology’ ...

Those twenty books ...

Madam, they are only crumbs in comparison to what the masters possess, and what they showed me.

And now Christ.

And what did Christ tell in the bible during His life?

He could not get rid of anything.

If he had, just for a moment, made more of it, then they would have already murdered him for 33 years, for 20 years.

Can’t you feel that?

If they ... now here in The Hague, here in Holland ...

I am the rebel in Holland. I know. I am scolded and shouted at, I am all kinds of things.

Then they say: ‘Then you must be made of stone.’

But, madam, I like people who scold.

They do not mean anything to me.

They do not do anything to me either.

I can stand it.

It is perfectly simple.

I have nothing to do with noise, nor with gossip.

They are little children.

But if society was not that far, then they would have stoned me long ago.

What should Christ have done?

Have come back one more time?

Madam, the child on the other side, which is a fortnight on the other side and is in the hands of the priestess, the mistress, the mother, also the mother again, can tell you that. Because that mother begins: ‘I know you, dear.

Just come along.’

And then that mother attracts the child, whose mother she was, into her life.

Because you get to see your own contact, your own life, your own consciousness.

Would you not think, madam; you have had hundreds of thousands, you have had a million lives.

You have been a mother and a father five hundred thousands times.

Where do all those children of ours live?

And would there not be one, two or three, from that and that time, on the other side in the first, the second or the third sphere, who have already reached that consciousness?

And they take care of us.

And then you are faced again with a mother.

And now it becomes a universal motherhood.

And Christ said that, but they do not understand that.

Any more questions about this?

(It remains quiet.)

No questions?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Yes, madam?

(Lady in the hall): ‘You say, if a child dies two days after the birth, then it goes to higher consciousness.

Does that only apply to a normal birth, or does that also apply to children who come into the world in bits and pieces?’

It remains the same.

Look, if a child ... in bits and pieces ...

My child came out of the mother in bits and pieces.

I stood there watching, I think: Oh yes, that is true, Gommel is lying there too.

But I was gone like that.

I entered that death room like that, and then there was a child in an incubator weighing four and a half pounds.

It had just died.

I have never seen anything so beautiful. There were a few candles there.

But my Gommel lay there in a tulle; they had thrown Gommel into a corner like a slaughtered pig, because she had not been baptised, do you feel?

I had wanted to give that whole church a good shaking.

I still do not know how I controlled myself there.

Master Alcar was with me.

I wrote the book.

The coming of Gommel, the dying of Gommel, like that, I also analysed the laws, and the reunion on the other side; that was a little book.

We also wrote that.

I do not believe it will be published.

But we could make a hundred million mothers happy with it.

But that little child there, it was also baptised, wasn’t it? Four candles there.

And I looked like that at that poor Gommel.

I think, yes – and I was already talking – I say: ‘You do not look good.’

But another father should have experienced that, there, your own child: shoulders separated, legs hanging there.

I say: ‘But, you have my face.’

‘Oh, that Gommel’, I said, and I left.

And then I just took that little coffin under my arms, and then I went with that little coffin to the burial ground.

There was no one.

I had no one with me.

I could have taken someone with me, but master Alcar says ‘Do not do that, go alone.’

And then I took that little coffin with me in a taxi.

Then the corpse man came.

And at that moment, then he, then that man ...

What is that corpse man called?

(Lady in the hall): ‘A grave digger.’

A grave digger.

Then my sister came, Miets, she said: ‘Jeus, I will help you carry, because I have already seen Gommel.’

And then sister came – because that became heavy – then she came to walk in me, and then it happened of its own accord.

Then she says; ‘She will lie on top of me, I already saw that, because I am lying there’, and ‘Gommel will come there.’ And that man made a grave there, about ten, twelve children came in there.

And then we looked at that afterwards, and then Gommel was lying precisely on top of Miets.

I say: ‘That all fits exactly.’

And then I went into a trance, with that one man, and then master Alcar spoke in me.

That man stood weeping.

It lasted half an hour.

He says: ‘I have never experienced such a funeral.

Are you perhaps that chauffeur?’

I say: ‘Yes, I am.’

Then he says: ‘Oh, Mr Rulof, that is now a funeral.’

I say: ‘Yes, it is my child.’

He says: ‘How can it be.’

But years, years afterwards I dealt with all of that; first in the spheres, then back.

And then the problems.

Your question: ‘If a child is ripped apart ...’

Madam, that child of ours had to be born. And the doctor had to do that with tongs, and with doing this and doing that.

You will feel, that has nothing to do with it, because the spirit Gommel had already gone.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Then that was a very different story with Gommel ...’, no, ‘ ... because she went directly to the higher consciousness.’

No, madam, that is exactly the same for every human being, because you must experience the birth as a single law.

So the human being which is born, who lives in the mother, for that human being, for that spirit, the birth is birth.

(Lady in the hall): ‘But, could that not be karma, because it goes into bits and pieces?’

No, they are material disturbances.

No.

That belonged to the birth.

How can you now, if something is real, how can you make karma of that?

That is not possible.

This was a perfectly ordinary birth.

And the child was too big, so it came out dead.

Now you can also add: if this spirit of this child – but it still remains the same thing, because it becomes evolution again – must return to the earth, you see, then the birth remains the birth, doesn’t it?

Or you must go back to the earth, or you go back to the other side, that has nothing to do with high and low, this remains the birth for this spirit, a new reincarnation, a new step.

Because when you want to experience all of that if you have the first sphere, then you must become a mother.

If you want to experience reincarnation – and every human being gets that – then you pass over into that birth, you will become birth, and then you enter the mother.

You are attracted by people who have nothing more to attract for themselves – do you feel? - who are free to attract, who do not have any children, but can attract you.

That is there, otherwise those wonders could not be experienced, because every human being was occupied as it were, cosmically occupied.

We have to give birth to hundreds of children before we have finished, freed our karmic births.

So every human being has to attract his own souls.

But there are also people living on earth who are free, who are finished with that, and they can attract you.

And then you can experience this soon.

So if you come on the other side, and you want to come back another time, then it is possible that a man and wife in this world attract you. And then you die again, because you cannot experience the new life. Then you die irrevocably in the mother, just before the birth, or seven hours after the birth; that can go up to seven weeks, but then it is over.

The birth has inner consciousness and material consciousness.

That means: the child lives in the mother, and it has feeling and life, that also grows, and then you also get to experience a few weeks, a few months.

As long as the giving birth lasted in the mother, you can continue to experience that outside the mother. But then the thread breaks and the aura has gone, and then that spirit goes to the place where that spirit came from.

Clear?

Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof?’

Yes, madam.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Is this from the first sphere?’

What did you say?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Does this only happen from the first sphere?’

Yes.

Why?

Why can you only ... that ...

And then you must also already be completely conscious in the first sphere.

You now come through your love, through your feeling, your goodness on the other side in the first sphere.

But that still does not mean that you possess spatial motherhood.

But you can already have attunement to the first sphere, according to your life, your personality.

But the first sphere is so awe-inspiringly deep, that you need thousands of years for that in order to take possession of that sphere.

And what is that now?

Then you must know everything, know this.

Those books there, that is still nothing.

But then a hundred thousand books go through you, and it is only then that you reach spiritual motherhood, spatial motherhood.

And it is only then that you prepare yourself in order to return to the earth.

Isn’t it simple?

Because if you enter the first sphere there and you do not yet have the consciousness, then you cannot think of birth, after all.

And it is not a mercy, no, you must build up that law of birth in you yourself, bring it to evolution, and then you will be born, you dissolve.

And that is laid aside for every human being, for everyone, every spark.

You will also get that; only in order to establish the laws of God, consciously now; because when a soul like that comes back, then it remains conscious for so many percent in the mother.

And those souls do not disturb.

Because they now experience the process of growth, the materialization, the growth of the human organism, they experience the origin of the eyes, when the light in the eyes comes, when the motherhood or fatherhood starts to awaken.

Because you experience that. Then you see how the tissues materialize themselves absolutely to creating and giving birth.

Because that is an eternity which you experience during those nine months.

That is so awe-inspiring, if you know that.

Master Zelanus says; ‘I have experienced it three times for myself in the jungle. With a mother, a black one (when these contact evenings were held from 1949 to 1952, the word ‘black’ was a common name to refer to someone with a dark skin colour), deep in the jungle.

I experienced it with the Eskimos.

I experienced it in China.

I experienced it among other peoples, to be attracted absolutely for study’, he says, ‘because I wanted to know everything, and also wanted to bring that to the earth.’

Most people are busy there, and experience, experience, experience, and that is all for themselves.

And then you get birth – do you feel? – and then the human being is actually unconsciously busy in order to already build up something for the earth, and for himself.

And then you get the cosmic spiritual consciousness, and you can explain and analyse every law for fatherhood and motherhood – this is why master Alcar is cosmically conscious, and master Alcar too – for space, for whatever reason, because you have experienced the highest fatherhood and motherhood in the mother.

This is why this is all infallible for the masters, because they are born again, they are born again.

And if you want to be born too, ladies and gentlemen, then you have a door there on the left and then the tea will be ready.

(laughter) And then that is also a material birth for your thirst, and it has nothing to do with the universe.

Isn’t that nice?

Now, now I will come to that gentleman there.

INTERVAL

Ladies and gentlemen, we will continue.

Last week after the lecture a letter was placed in my hands, which was for me personally, but I will read it out to you.

‘I would be grateful for your opinion about the following.

I would ask you to read these questions first as a whole, and then to proceed with answering them.

Is your destructive criticism and one-sided explanation with regard to churches and religions justified?’

The people who have been to all our lectures, have you every heard that I destroy?

(Hall): ‘No.

Never.’

When we put something right which has been bent by the churches and the bible, then we lay a new foundation for that, sir.

Never happened before.

When the human being hears that we destroy, then the people do not want to lose their own bent foundation.

But I will continue:

‘Is your destructive criticism and one-sided explanation with regard to churches and religions justified?’

These churches give the masses a part of the universal truth, in a simple form.

And that partial food, which the masses can only stand, and can even understand, deal with and can apply practically more than the not-self-thinking masses.’

I have answered that hundreds of times there, do you know that?

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

‘These churches give the masses the fundamental concepts for spiritual, moral and cultural life, and lay the seed for higher spiritual thinking and feeling.’

That is not true, but never mind.

‘They force the self-thinker to start to search for the missing and pure truth.’

Yes, sir, we also say that.

‘Is the majority of the audience present not brought up as Christians and prepared by means of these principles in order to be able to understand higher truths?’

Yes, sir, I myself too.

I also come from the Catholic church.

‘Is constructive criticism not more appropriate and more sublime than destructive criticism, disdain, and putting everything in a ridiculous daylight?’

No, sir. I will come back to that.

‘I never heard you talking about the task, the karmic serving of a priest.’

Here you have something, that is like that ...

If you have learned theosophy, then this is pathetic and unconscious, because this does not exist.

‘His task is now serving.’

Listen: karmic serving.

(laughter) Yes, don’t laugh, because we come for this. It is serious.

‘His task is now serving for knowledge and powers; this is his karma, which he built up in previous lives.

As soon as that karma has been dealt with, he is capable of building further on his life.’

You contradict yourself terribly in your writing.

‘In my opinion, the question of guilt should not be sought with the clergy, but with mankind.

As soon as mankind as a whole has risen above the present level, it will no longer need the clergy.

It is only then that there will be no more need for them and that they will disappear of their own accord, because the clergy has come from mankind.

That you point to the faults and failings in their teachings and mercilessly put the spotlight there ...’

Is that merciless, when you tell the human being, if you say: ‘There is no damnation. The Last Judgement is all nonsense.’ If you give the human beings the great wings for that?

Is that a merciless floodlight?

(Hall): ‘No.’

Oh, it is such a pity that you do not reflect yourselves. Then you no longer need to consider, no longer need to feel those things, and then you rise out above that floodlight and this being merciless.

Do you see?

‘That you point to the faults and failings in their teachings and mercilessly put the spotlight there, can only be applauded, because you open many people’s eyes with this and teach them how they should think.

But that you make a fool of the people, feels unpleasant, and in this way you hurt many people amongst your audience.’

Is this true?

(Hall): ‘No.’

‘Also those who have outgrown the churches.’

Am I still hurting?

Then I will beat my heart to a pulp. I will grab hold of myself first.

If you cannot come along, Catholic, Protestant, then you must not yet experience and accept this.

(Jozef continues to read.) ‘ ... have outgrown, and you destroy yourself and the teachings ...’ I destroy myself? ‘ ... for their thinking and feeling!

Because the words are tested on the actions.

Mankind is like the child which gets a certain education and development from the parents, churches, according to the moral and spiritual standard of the parents, but a part of which now stands on its own feet and surpasses the parents.’

Yes, sir.

‘It does not suit such a surpassing child to look behind scornfully’ – ‘you are saying something again’ – ‘at the conservative parents.

On the contrary, it should have every respect’ –yes, indeed – ‘and regard for them.’

But for what, now comes.

‘Because the child has become what it is thanks to and by means of those same parents.’

No, sir. ‘That these parents, churches, have made mistakes and have far from a clean slate ...’

Sir, then you should go back there for a moment.

Far from a clean slate, the parents ...

The churches burnt people at the stake. Evolution, the consciousness of our mankind moans and complains and whines, because we are still standing on that cursed damnation.

There is no reincarnation, there is nothing.

We were not born in the waters.

But Rome knows it.

We are lied to, sir, and deceived, those poor people.

This is how you must deal with them.

Those poor children whom I am talking to, I will beat them away from damnation and from all those lies and that deception.

The whole space shouts at me: ‘Do it even worse.’

People who are afraid of damnation are no good to me.

Can you accept that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, I cannot.’

No, you cannot.

Can you accept that, people?

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

You see, you are completely alone.

I do not have any feeling either ...

Why, sir, why?

Why can I not reach unity with you, why not?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘God is love and not harshness.’

(People are talking at the same time in the hall.)

(To the hall): No, just wait a moment.

God is love and not harshness.

If you explain the laws and you make reality from those frills, is that ridiculous?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But, Mr Rulof ...’

Wait a moment, sir, we have not yet worked it out.

Yes, you see, you remain serious.

Sir is sitting in this.

Sir has Catholic friends, so do I.

Sir, I was brought up a Catholic, otherwise I would not even dare that.

But I have been lied to and sold out.

Our heavens have been squandered.

When my Crisje had to go and sit behind the pillar, so big, I said: ‘Mother, why are you not allowed to sit there?’

She says: ‘That costs money.’

‘But, Our Lord, he is here for all of us, isn’t he?’

‘Yes’, mother says, ‘but it costs money.’

Then I had already had enough, sir.

But the bandits sit at the front, behind the tabernacle.

They sit there, the cheats and the liars.

And they were worshipped by the priest.

They were allowed to come in and they were allowed to drink a glass of wine with him, do you see?

But something came out of that.

Later ...

We experienced that.

You should be brought up in the country, then you will see that arson.

I have nothing against you, I like this, discussing this ... you think.

But, you are much further than this.

You are making yourself small again.

You have learned much more than this.

You think dimensionally, you think cosmically, and now you still go back to the poverty of the church.

I have seen, sir, I have ... the struggle ...

Have you read ‘’Jeus II’ by me?

Well, sir, were you not able to enjoy that?

Is that fight of a child of fourteen years with regard to the church ...

I released Christ from the stone statue, and then I said: Then I will go to the Real one, then I will also confess there.’

That priest was just sitting there making a fool of me.

I saw that.

I was fourteen years old.

Are you shocked by that, Catholic?

(Hall): ‘No.’

Is that harsh, sir?

I am not harsh.

But these teachings are true. And now the human being is shocked, because the human being gets something which he does not yet understand.

We can no longer talk differently.

And if it is possible, sir, then I will throw something on top of that, in order to really irritate them inside.

When we do this gently, sir, then we do not come any further, believe me.

I wish that I could help you, because you have a good thinking, a good feeling, but you keep going back, you keep going back.

It is a surprising pity, for yourself.

(Jozef continues to read): ‘That these parents, churches have made mistakes and far from a clean slate ...’

Sir, if you see the masters, if you see the apostles, and if you hear the cardinals and the bishops who have now finally reached the spheres ... you should hear them – how they sullied the Christ, how the Christ is nailed to the cross every day, gold is made from the Christ -: ‘André, destroy that!’

I say: ‘Yes, what you built up ...’

I should begin with that, sir, then I would be shot left and right from the street, at present.

I say: ‘Just clean up your own filth.’

But you should hear them moaning now.

If I make a fool of something, sir, then I see that terrible gold and all those herbs and those Saint Nicholas signs.

But the Christ went barefooted over the earth.

Just ask the Holy Father.

Is he afraid for the people?

The pope could achieve more if he went barefooted – then he would be a holy father – over the earth, from city to city. And then I would lay next to him on my bare knees.

Do you now have respect for that golden telephone?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, I have no respect for it. It does not concern the church, it concerns yourself.’

Myself?

Are you afraid of me?

(laughter) Sir, what should I lose?

I cannot lose anything more.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Then you possess nothing.’

I have nothing.

(Gentleman in the hall): 'Then you are poor.'

Am I poor?

I have twenty books.

You do not have that.

And theosophy does not have that, what is written there.

And the Catholic church does not have that.

And Protestantism does not have that.

And the bible does not have that.

And I should I start to talk again according to the bible and to Catholicism?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, I am not saying that.’

What should I do then?

How do you wish to see me?

Should I perhaps pray here?

Yes, I am crazy.

I know the prayers, sir.

Isn’t it horrible, sir, I can no longer pray now.

I prayed until I was crippled, to thirty-eight years.

It then concerned, sir – I can also tell and explain something to you – it then concerned a patient for whom I wished to die. And then He came himself, because I had to have Him himself, Christ.

And then He stood before me: ‘André, what is the matter?’

I say: ‘You said: “Anyone who wants to lose his life, will receive Mine.”

Is that nonsense?’

Sir, I did battles for life and death for my patients.

I wanted so much, that I wanted to die for my patients and that they would get better.

But it did not work.

And then should I also alleviate the matter?

I also had to beat that from the church first, because the priest wanted to have the last three hundred and fifty guilders from that poor woman.

I say: ‘Madam, keep that money.

Then I will tell you something.

And when I have told you that, then you can give him that money.’

Then she says: ‘And that thief has taken ten thousand guilders away here.

My husband was still hanging with one leg in heaven.’

Then she says: ‘And just let him fall out with the other leg, but not a cent more from me.’

Those dramas happen every day.

And now also gentle, sir?

If you could see the reality, sir, then you will get an inspiration, and then you will take a club.

But then you will be going too far again.

I know absolutely, sir, here, and wherever I am, what I say.

But I do not know what you make of it.

There are people who mess up and spoil my teachings.

Did I say that?

Do you see?

I am not destroying myself, sir.

I cannot destroy myself.

You should see what kind of cosmic inspiration is sitting there behind me.

They want even more.

But master Alcar says: ‘Why did we put you in prison?

We cannot say anything at all anymore.’

But is there harsh speaking here?

No, sir, a state of purity speaks here.

And if a person like that walks away, sir, I cannot, and you cannot, and the priests and the popes still cannot reach them in a thousand years, sir.

Just look at those little faces and at those lights in their eyes, then you will have no more sympathy.

I fought a battle for life and death, not for my Crisje, who was divinely pure, but for the God in space and the Christ.

And this is why I got my mother.

Harsh words are said in ‘Jeus II’, but beautiful.

Do you see?

I am still far too soft.

The masters want even more, but we cannot do any more.

Fear for those people ...

To make a fool of something?

Sir, if I see a rich person like that in a garment, then my blood runs away, my blood; and now that of the Christ.

They are standing there.

I sometimes joke, don’t I?

That that lace drags over the ground, and we did not even have a table-cloth at home.

Sir, just feel that.

The lace, the lace, the lace, the lace ... The frills, the frills, the frills, the frills, the frills ...

And now we stand in the reality.

You as a theosophist should know.

Do you have sympathy with those who still cling to that word, and those things, that nonsense and those lies?

You are above that, aren’t you?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Those people need it. I do not need it, those people need it.’

Oh yes?

And then must I go back into those people, in order to take them like that as infants through that life?

Sir, let them first start to read the books, and then they will enter the teachings here.

But they do not do that.

Just dropping in here like that, sir, that is no longer possible.

We have had seven hundred lectures, those people have read twenty, nineteen books.

Cosmology, the universe ...

There are prophets here, sir.

They make a fool of the matter ...

Yes, sir, because that damns the human being.

You must fight for that.

I dare to do that; you do not dare to do it, I notice that.

That is a pity.

Soon you will also begin.

Am I right?

(Somebody in the hall): ‘In six months he will be very different.’

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

That boy has so much.

We have had more of them here, sir, who cannot do that.

But you do not need to think that I feel big-headed. You feel big-headed.

And that is a pity.

You are still not an adept, because you have too many buts, buts, buts, buts.

I say a hundred thousand times: ‘There is no but, if you can experience the reality.’

You do not believe anything from me either.

You just believe a few things.

You see, I see your aura coming to me, but you are so terribly awkward, you take nothing.

There are no masters here.

You see.

I wonder what you are still doing here.

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

I am not chasing you away, I can tolerate you, but you are not learning anything.

You do not need to tell me that you accept my life, I know exactly which people irritate me here, you are one of them.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, I do not want to irritate.’

Sir, you do not accept this; that is the irritant.

You do not accept this.

You have been messed up by means of a teaching, I told you; I may not say it again.

But the theosophist who absorbed and dealt with Blavatsky and all the other teachings and systems, was messed up.

Do you see?

He is messed up, he is spoiled.

I have more theosophists sitting here of twenty, thirty, forty and fifty and eighty; but they think differently about it.

(Jozef continues to read again.) ‘That these parents, churches made mistakes and have far from a clean slate, the child does not have to judge that ...’ No, sir, we do not judge that. ‘ ... it can learn the lesson from it how it should not be done.’

That is true, of course. We have learned this.

‘These churches are still indispensable for the masses.’

When they asked me here recently, sir – you see, that is such a pity, I must keep going back, you write something – then they asked me: ‘Is it good that the missionaries go into the jungle?’

Then I said: ‘Yes, of course.

That must happen, because that is the first foundation.’

But we are concerned here with conscious deception. And there is a great deal of it.

There must be a faith.

Have you read ‘The Peoples of the Earth’?

Now, sir, what do you still have to ask me if you know that the masters there ...

Or do you also assume that God spoke there as a human being?

You see, the masters began.

The human being had to get a faith.

But they knew!

They did not tell that, that there was eternal burning, the human being made that of it.

He says: ‘We made the people afraid.

If you commit sins and you murder and you commit arson, then you will make amends for that, and you will experience darkness.’

‘But who added that fire?’ the masters say.

Now they must try to free the human being again from a hell, because there is no hell.

And now I will build up pictures so that the human being learns to think.

If you do not get a fright and you do not feel irritated here, if it concerns those problems, then I will add something to it.

I always do that consciously, not just like that.

And, sir, then they go: ‘That rotter’ and ‘That man.’

And then they must have me, then they would – I have been spiritually murdered for so long, sir – but then they would want to burn me at the stake, because I want to illuminate them.

And I cannot do that gently.

And I do it gently.

Sir, the law is harsh.

The law is harsh.

The human being is not.

(The man says something else, but it is incomprehensible.)

Yes, it is impossible to talk to that man.

The human being who associates with you, sir, you take them all from dry land into the ditch, take that into account, because you cannot be reached.

And those who accept you and say: ‘Yes, yes, yes’, it is from the same life of feeling and consciousness.

It is a pity, a pity.

Or do you find me pitiful?

You sympathise with me, of course.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Well, I don’t know that. No sympathy.’

No sympathy?

But oh, so many come here, they sympathise with me, because I stand there like that blethering.

Master Alcar, my master Alcar, and the masters ... There were masters, recently ... They sympathise with them, with me too.

Now, I can only say this to myself: ‘Behind the coffin’ we will see each other again.

It is such a surprising pity.

These churches are indispensable, sir, that must happen. But we are not concerned with that faith, with that Protestantism, the VPRO and the NCRV broadcasting organisations and all those four hundred sects here in the Netherlands.

We are concerned with getting rid of that damnation.

Then the human being will get space.

Then the human being will get reincarnation.

And then we can draw Europe up from this unconsciousness.

Did you think that?

Our queen also has damnation.

Our government is still standing on top of damnation, because the hand still goes on the bible every day.

Don’t you find that sad, sir?

Are you not grateful, that I have the courage to begin with it like that?

Who dares to?

Who can analyse space so clearly, purely, spiritually, humanly?

We have no more waiting here: would that door open?

We will fly through it ourselves.

And that is too harsh for those people.

If I can make a fool of it, sir, that last Judgement, then I will walk with all those skulls under my arm; and if I then finally get consciousness and ground under my feet, I will stand with a head of a cow in my hand, because then they would have dragged my bones over the earth.

How do you wish ... that story ... I saw them leaving here.

But we had a good laugh.

When the last Judgement comes ...

I sat there as a child shaking and shaking, and trembling and trembling.

And people of seventy and eighty will still tremble for that, if that honking in the universe begins and God says: ‘Stand up!’

Sir, and then there will be an argument about the bones.

One will walk around with my head.

And then I will also add something nice, sir, because then we will no longer have a tongue, no more teeth, and we will have to say ‘yes’, with a skull.

You see, I gladly make a fool of that, because that is not possible, that is a fairground attraction.

Do you find that so horrible for the human being who has to listen to that?

Be pleased that you no longer possess it.

Are you shocked, ladies and gentlemen?

(Hall): ‘No.’

(Another gentleman says): ‘Mr Rulof, I also found that very harsh in the beginning; I also come from the church.

It was indeed very harsh.’

It is also harsh.

But why is that harsh?

Which harshness is in it?

(Gentleman in the hall); ‘No, the harshness was built up by the church.’

Yes, but, you call that harsh, but is that harsh?

(Hall): ‘No.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Look, that is not harsh when we understand that, for anyone who understands that.’

There is no harshness in this.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘We must get through that here ... I know, there are several people who come from the church, who indeed cannot bear that.’

That is not possible either.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘And those people leave.

I am talking about my own brother, who could not bear that.’

No, that is not possible either.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I say: “Piet, go back to the church, you still belong there.”

He went back to the church.

But I know: he will come ...

For about four days he says: “Look, Kees, I cannot stand it here.”

I say: 'Hey, just stay in that church, just stay there.'

I think: it will come.’

I have had people: ‘Good heavens, Mr Rulof, how pleased I am that you gave me a good shaking, because otherwise I would have gone back into that.’

And why?

He says: ‘I am starting to feel; but my wife can still not work it out.’

Marriage destroyed.

He can no longer believe it.

He says: ‘That hot air means nothing more to me.

I am sitting shaking and trembling from sorrow, from inside, if I just hear that, how that ... damnation ... again ...

Oh, there you have it again.’

And then at home, arguments.

She says this.

‘We do not have a life anymore.

We no longer have any contact.

We no longer have any unity.

Nothing more.’

Why?

Sir, here, damnation, last Judgement.

Oh, sir, I have had a thousand people visiting me between 1930 and 1940, I sent all of them calmly home again, and they got a new life, got a new marriage.

The man became young again, the wife became young again.

We have people here: the wife in the Catholic church, and the man here.

The marriage is destroyed, sir.

Who is to blame?

‘I do not like that rubbish from that madman.’

‘Yes, they will not get me away from that.’

It is a happy, a strong, a supernatural human being who can already say: ‘And I am going.

Because ‘behind the coffin’ you will say to me: “If only I had used the whip.”’

And that is true, sir.

My own brother told me that, who drowned. He comes to me, he says: ‘Jeus, Jeus, Jeus, how I laughed at you.’

When Gerhard went to America, then I gave him a beautiful drawing, a painting. That boy did not understand me.

Then as a child I wanted ...

Gerhard, you know him, don’t you?

Tall Hendrik said: ‘Him?’

Then he had ripped up my paintings, along with the drawing; I could leave, that was his goodbye for me.

I saw him again on the other side, then he came to me.

I say: ‘What are you doing here?

Have you drowned?’

‘Oh, Jeus, Jeus, Jeus ...’

Then be begins to weep.

I say: ‘Gerhard ...’

Now he came into the hands of Tall Hendrik, his own father.

Tall Hendrik came back to him, he says: ‘I will take him in hand on this side.

Come, little Gerrit.’

Little Gerrit said: ‘Father, what do you want?’

‘Little Gerrit, come, come, just follow me’, the Tall one said.

And Gerhard came there.

I say: ‘Gerhard, you did not like me.

I was different to you.

I had feeling, I had love.

There were always pranks in you.

Yet I loved you.’

I say: ‘Now you are there.’

‘What should I do now?’

I say: ‘I do not have time to talk to you.

Just go to father.

There is father.

Just go with him.

Just come and see in five years time.’

Do you find that harsh, sir, that I chase my own brother out the door?

I have chased bankers out of my way like that.

They were on earth, here, wanted to help me.

I made diagnoses, sir, with five doctors present.

And then he says: ‘What is wrong with me?’

I say: ‘Sir, now you will get the truth.’

I say: ‘You will perhaps just live for a few months.

Your left heart valve is not good.

You have hardening of the arteries.

You have that and this and that, and there is a tumour here.’

I say: ‘Were they your friends?’

‘No, sir, they are doctors.’

‘You have let me walk into it, here like this.’

Then I still had my chauffeur’s cap on my head.

And there I stood.

‘What do you think of me then?’

I say: ‘Can you bear something bad?

Or must you have nonsense?

Truth or nonsense?’

Master Alcar was next to me.

‘What is bad?

But that was not bad.

I always have more respect for the suffering and the sorrow, for the material ...’

I have had people with cancer visit me.

I say: ‘She is coming for her daughter.’ And then you should see.

I say to my wife: ‘Look, it is just a spark.

She comes to me for that daughter.

But the cancer is busy awakening.’

I say: ‘In two years time you can put that fat lady, that healthy woman in the coffin.’

In eighteen months a tumour of eight pounds.

Dead.

Cancer.

If only I had told her, sir.

But Jozef Rulof does not do that.

I say to that banker: ‘Sir ...’

‘You paint also, chauffeur?’

I say: ‘Yes, sir, Erich Wolff paints through me.

He perished, sir, in the war.’

And then such a lovely smile came, then I was laughed at by those gentlemen, there in that corner, over there.

But I saw it, I felt it.

I think: But we will get you. Just wait.

Master Alcar in me, I am also conscious, he looks through my eyes, I go with him; and then we have analysed his whole body.

He says: ‘I look bad.’

I say: ‘Yes, sir.

Are you afraid of death?’

I say: ‘Sir, I am writing books, I come from the other side, I have made journeys, sir.

Oh, sir, there is no damnation, do not be so afraid.’

‘Is that true, chauffeur?’

Then I stood there. I stood opposite that man with millions like a small child.

He says: ‘Then I want to read that book.’

I say: ‘Then you must be quick, sir, very quick.’

‘Very quick?

How long will I live then?’

I say: ‘My book will be published in two months, sir, but you must be quick.’

In six weeks, sir, he was on the other side.

And after nine months sir was standing in the room with me.

Then Master Alcar says ...

He was a good person, had done a lot of good. But he did not quite have this.

He would help me.

He says: ‘If that is true, you will get a million from me.’

I say: ‘Sir, how much is that?’

Then he entered the room there, I was sitting writing.

And someone who enters my house, sir, he is under the surveillance of my master on the other side, otherwise no one enters there.

And the banker is standing there: ‘Oh, Jozef, I am alive!’

I say: ‘Go back, and tell that to the Christ.

Get out.’

Then master Alcar says: ‘You did well, a hundred percent. He has had his rap.’

And you talk about gentleness?

The spirit, the astral spirit, sir ... If you come ‘beyond the coffin’, and you do not accept these things, then the masters will beat it out in a universal way, until you succumb.

Because everything must go!

They lay new foundations, and I am busy with that.

Do you find that harsh?

If I work myself to death, sir, then that is harsh.

But I do it gladly.

Because I am doing it for myself at the end of the day.

I do not ask for anything at all, because I will not get anything anyway.

But I get something.

But I do not accept any thanks and any noise, any up and any downs.

I do not accept any sullying, even if they blacken my name that much; that is an honour for me.

But you will not destroy me.

And I will continue like that.

I will break you if I have the law for it.

And then you will also get universal love.

And if you cannot understand and do not want to accept that, sir, then I will not say anything more to you.

Then we will wait until you come ‘behind the coffin’, and then you will know it of your own accord.

But I will continue to love you.

Thank you.

I love people, and they are not words.

But if you do not want to come along, sir, I will be powerless; and then the mother will be powerless and the father powerless.

And then we will just begin with it there one day.

It is nice, you see that, now they all learn again.

I love that.

But you should see, sir, now you are talking about karmic clergy.

This is a mistake, that is so terrible, and perfectly simple; not terrible, but you may no longer materialize this.

You have learned so much, that you can no longer say that.

If I want to reach the people here, I will go to the Catholic church, I will become a priest, then that will be karma, won’t it? You mean that.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, life in itself is mapped out for the human being.’

So, then you also believe in coincidence?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, I say that precisely, I do not believe in coincidence.

I say: everything is laid down karmically.’

No, you see, you spoil everything with karma.

And the theosophist does that.

You bring at present – I will read it out to you – you bring at present that which you want to master according to karma.

Sir, that is your own will. That has nothing to do with karma, that is not karma.

That man, that Catholic, who goes there, who learns in the meantime ...

When he comes ‘behind the coffin’, then there are some who will also serve mass; we will also leave them alone.

Then at that moment there is not a father of them there, whom they know. And then he suddenly says: ‘Did you know him?’

And then the priest, and the minister, still stand there laughing right in the face of the human being whom they have known.

Because on the other side, sir, if we now go out of here this evening, then we will fight, I along with you, the same battle, we will experience the same problem. Nothing has changed.

Now I must try to convince you, now we are only free from the material.

But you are there, you have a tie on, and I am standing with my glasses in my hands and I am standing shouting, and I cannot reach you, not ‘behind the coffin’ either.

Is that not sad?

It is.

Now we live in that reality, because this and there is one.

And then you must hear what you say. That is a pity.

(Jozef continues to read.) ‘I never heard you speak about the task, the karmic serving of the priest.’

Sir, the man – now I must also go and help you – the karmic task ... Being a priest is not a task.

There is something else, because the man says: ‘Do good.’

We had a wonderful priest, a good person, he says: ‘I can talk, but if you do wrong and cheat and lie to each other, then you will not come any further, then you will commit sins.’

That man also accepted reincarnation, I know that, and he talked differently.

Look, awakening already lies in him, already lives in him.

That man brings the children of Our Lord to faith.

They need that, that is that class.

But that is really not karma from him.

That is happiness.

A priest can feel happy in his situation, but that is not karma, is it?

You are wrong about that.

Do you accept this?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, then we both have a wrong view about karma.’

You have the theosophical karma, sir.

I have the spatial.

Theosophy flourishes and speaks about karma, everything is karma.

Nothing else remains of us.

Sir, there is just one karma, there is just one karma, there is just one in space.

And what is that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘That is life itself.’

No, sir, that is reincarnation.

You must return for a murder, in order to become a mother.

And for the rest there is no more karma in space.

Everything which we master, sir, becomes consciousness.

The priest, the cardinal, the bishop, that is a task for a faith, a sect.

And that man becomes rich, because he is busy thinking about God. Wonderful.

We will get rid of that damnation, because we have also been that, now, and because we have contact; but that is not karma anyway.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘And the teacher of a doctor ...’

That would also be karma?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘That is a vocation, isn’t it?

That is also karmic ...’

Do you see it now? How will I get that man out of that karma?

Sir, that does not exist.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘ ... in previous lives.’

No, sir, that is teaching, that is doing good, that is serving; that becomes happiness, a doctor gets happiness.

If I am a genius, and I make atomic bombs, categorically atomic bombs, then I am already a demon.

That is sad.

But if I make atomic energy in order to give the world light and awakening and evolution, sir, then it is happiness for me.

You must just know what you are doing with it.

A doctor serves, a school teacher serves; that becomes happiness, that is the possession in society, that becomes the personality.

How can you compare that to karma?

Well, you see, I cannot take it away from you, and that is a pity.

Have you read all my books?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Well, not all of them, but most of them.’

See, and I want to reach you, and I keep making an effort, but you ...

That must go.

If you were my adept, sir, a real adept ... You are not that.

People ask questions.

You are the most difficult of all my people.

My master began: ‘My word is law, André.’

Isn’t it wonderful that I can say: ‘There is no death.

My word is law.

There is no death.

There is no damnation’.

I can explain millions of laws to you.

And if I just: ‘But ... But ...’

‘If you begin with but’, master Alcar says, ‘I will stand still and I will not be able to reach you.’

That must go.

There are no buts here.

I am only talking about reality.

Yes, you cannot accept that from me.

You do not accept me either.

I do not expect that from you at all, sir.

I do not want people to accept me.

No, they must get an opinion themselves.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Precisely.’

Yes, they do that.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I must also do that.’

Yes, but, you do not do it.

You must first get out of that terrible karmic darkness.

For you everything is karma, karma.

‘A priest ...’ now you write here ...

Everything lies on that.

I agree completely with you here.

I have here ... then you weren't even here, were you?

You have not been here so long.

We have been busy here for three years.

(To the hall): ‘How long have we been busy?

Three years?

(Hall): ‘Three years.’

Master Zelanus, the masters spoke about that: we began in the jungle.

Just read ‘The Peoples of the Earth’.

In the prehistoric ages – Moses was almost prehistoric – then the masters began.

How can you then think of me, how can you then say of me that I deal with subjects in a one-sided way, while we already have twenty books?

Do you call that one-sided?

That is harsh, sir.

You see, that is really harsh for me.

You hit here. I do not pay any attention to it, but I had no longer expected it of you.

I am one-sided here?

Here they suffocate in wisdom.

Here they turn like a top about the masses which they get.

And you call me one-sided?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, with regard to the churches you are.’

And I bring the church back to the universe.

You already get that in ‘The Origin of the Universe’, in the ‘View into the Hereafter’, in ‘Between Life and Death’, in ‘The Cycle of the Soul’, in ‘Those who Returned from the Dead’, in ‘Mental Illnesses seen from the Other Side’.

Insanity, psychopathy; also karma?

That is spiritual karma, but for the personality, do you see?

But that is not karma, sir, because karma is now: evolution.

Those people do not have any karma.

Those people are busy evolving.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Karma is always evolution.’

We are unconscious.

Those in the mental institution are conscious.

And that is true, Socrates also said that.

Those who are locked up, have learned, he says.

Psychopaths and insane people are the conscious beings.

And we want to say that we are conscious?

We do not know our life.

Those people are busy with it.

And that is true.

The insane person, sir, he is alive, he experiences his spirit and his reincarnation, and dissolves for this bare, contaminated, dark society, which does not possess any consciousness. They all dissolve there, and now speak nonsense for the world; but they do not speak such nonsense.

Now you can ask me questions.

What do you want to talk about?

What all do you want to talk about?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘May I ask something?’

Yes, sir?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof, you just said: there are no buts. But I may not expect that people accept something on authority, may I?

They must feel themselves that it is true, mustn’t they?’

You see, if you begin to learn this ...

This is why I say: you are not an adept either.

You are not at all.

Because then the buts will be gone.

Then you will read there for the first time.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, of course. But look, there are always things which people think about themselves and which people do not immediately feel correctly, so then a but already comes.’

Yes.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Then you could say: “There is no but, just believe that”, but that is not convincing.

Yes, yes, so you also wanted to have the rest too.

You first go through all those books.

And they begin with the first foundation: hells, heavens, life ‘behind the coffin’.

That ‘but’ has gone, and that is a cosmic ‘but’.

Almost all of mankind now also asks: ‘Is there life ‘behind the coffin’?’

And that ‘but’ has gone ...

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes ...’

... If you ... that ... No, sir, I will come back to you. ... if you can accept that.

And now you continue.

And now you will begin here.

And now you will come to those ‘Question and Answer evenings’.

They will be more use to you, actually, than the lectures in Diligentia, which are about cosmology.

Now you can ask the question which lives in you, precisely in attunement with your life of feeling and consciousness.

And if I explain to you, sir, now the crazy part comes, and I say: so and so, and so and so, then there comes in you: ‘Oh, well, would he alone know that?’

There we are.

That is what it comes down to.

‘But, but’, comes again.

Sir – what use is it to us – I am talking myself to death – if you say that ‘but’ again?

You now write it down.

At school we had to write it down, we had to learn it from outside.

But they do not do that here, then they begin again to raise objections, raise objections.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Then I could also continue to sit in the Catholic church; there you must also accept everything on authority.

That is the same thing.’

But, sir, something else. Yes, now you can ...

Yes, you see, you can never reach those people, you cannot begin with that.

Now it says: there is no death.

Now you must accept that from me on authority again, because science still does not know it.

You see: those people must all in that ‘but’, ‘but’ ...

But they accept it, because their feeling says: ‘Yes, this is it.’

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘That is just what I mean.

Your feeling must tell you it.

You can say: ‘There is no but, just believe it’, but if someone does not feel that himself ...’

This is why I just said to you: after that, after that reading of those books, if you ...

Master Zelanus says: ‘Do not commit suicide!’

I heard someone here, who had also read that book: ‘Now, I want to know.

What will happen to me if I kill myself now.’

Now, gone master Zelanus, gone God, gone laws.

For whom was that book written?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘For him.’

For him?

‘I want to see, if I kill myself, what will happen to me.’

He goes against everything.

Yes, there is a ‘but’.

He can do it.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Of course.’

Sir, why do you not do it?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘He must also do it, it is that simple, otherwise he will not say that.’

Do you feel?

Can I help that man, sir?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, of course not.’

No, I do not talk to those people either, sir.

Because I am talking to the people who want to work on themselves and say: ‘Yes, it is true.’

And if you begin with the first foundations, then you will gradually get the whole space, because we have three books about the origin of the universe.

And then you get foundations.

And finally you must also say: ‘Behind the coffin, Jozef Rulof, I will see whether you are right.’

But when you continue to ‘raise objections’ here, you will never come any further; that is what we are concerned with.

If you say here: ‘But, but, but, but’, then we do not need to write another twenty books, and you do not need to read another ten, because you are already breaking your spiritual neck here; here is your standstill, because the first ‘but’ holds you from the other expansion, there is no longer a bridge.

Is that true?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Do you see?

Anything else?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Which is also the fault of the church again, that but.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Which is also the fault of the church again.’

That’s it.

The church would nourish the human being, if the church began with: ‘There is no damnation, children, and there are no sins.

Christ cannot forgive you your sins; you must make amends for them.’

Dear God, there is no last Judgement, because the last Judgement is already there when I cheat you for ten guilders. This is my first and the last Judgement: I should not have stolen.

That last Judgement, where they ... Do you see?

What kind of horror is that to send the human being into the ground and to leave them there?

An end will come; and then God will speak?

My God, my God, where do the people live who lived in the prehistoric age?

A hundred million years ago people already lived on earth and they now live in the All-Consciousness, they are gods; without God, without Christ, without the bible, without books.

‘But’, the people say, ‘it is becoming easier by knowing this.

I now do not commit suicide, now that I know how that Lantos Dumonché experienced a rotting there.

I no longer wept for he who leaves me, who dies, whom I will soon see again.

Thousands and thousands of sciences, problems were now revelations for me.’

Yes?

Not for you?

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

I see my brothers, my sister, my mother, I see them all again.

Everything which is mine, which I can love, and which has the spheres, I will see that again.

But, but, but ...

‘Too good to be true’, a bishop said.

That was the bishop in ‘Those who Returned’, from the Russian church, Rosanoff.

Now I will tell you who that was.

He says: (stammering) ‘Too, too, too good to be true, Jozef.’

He spoke broken Dutch.

A wonderful person, orthodox Russian.

‘Oh, wonderful, wonderful.’

The man had cancer.

‘You helping me?’

‘A bit. To enlighten you a bit.’

‘Me dead?’

I say: ‘Can you take it?’

‘Yes, honestly, the truth.’

I say: ‘I cannot help you.

I can take away the pains.

You will not get better.’

I had someone in Scheveningen for headaches lying on the couch in my home.

I say: ‘Sir, do you not see anything?’

‘No.’

‘Do you not hear anything?’

‘No.’

‘Sir, bishop Rosanoff is floating next to us.

He says: “I will die tonight at half past three.

Master with me, master Alcar.

I read about.

I am flying.

‘Wings’.

Oh wonderful, wonderful.”’

He was weeping.

Master Alcar says: ‘Can you see him?

Just greet him, he will die tonight. I will collect him.’

I say to that man, I say it to my wife, I said it to my friends: ‘Tomorrow evening you will read in the paper, that last night at half past three the head of the Russian church died. Because he was with me at half past six, in my room, he had the great wings.’’

That man who came, had also told it to ten, twenty people.

The next evening it was in the paper: ‘Rosanoff died at half past three.’

Then the family came: ‘Oh, the things you did for my father’, and ‘Oh, Mr Rulof.

But you do not tell people, Mr Rulof, that my father was with you, do you?’

I say: ‘I will do that.

That is my life.’

Also the Orthodox church again, you see, then they were very afraid that the masses would get to know that Rosanoff had manifested himself to Jozef Rulof. Because it all fitted exactly.

They are still there, those children.

He later came to me: ‘I now travelling’, a pupil of master Zelanus, ‘I travelling to Russia.

See everything.

Oh, do good, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.’

He goes to the moon. ‘I saw the moon, which you talked about. I have seen, oh, wonderful, wonderful.’

I say: ‘But do not talk, let me see your feeling.’

And then he gave me his feeling, and then I saw his journeys.

But that time before he manifested himself.

Now you have a piece of proof.

‘Too good to be true’, that bishop said, ‘the books which I read there.’

He drowned himself in the books ‘A View into the Hereafter.’ ‘Too good to be true.

Oh, wonderful, if that is true.’

I say: ‘That is true!’

Sir, it won’t go in.

When he manifested himself, his corpse was lying there dying.

And he comes as a beautiful young man there, floats. Master Alcar brings him to me, I look into his face ... ‘Wonderful, wonderful.’ His Episcopal garment had already gone.

He was already wearing his aura; nice and young ...

His beard had become beautiful, his hair, his eyes.

I say to my patient: ‘Sir, can’t you hear anything?’

‘No.’

‘Can’t you see anything, sir?’

‘No.’

I think: Yes, then I am a strange being.

‘Do you now believe it, sir, that there is no death?’

I asked those children of his. That boy, that engineer was also there: ‘Do you believe, sir, that there is no death?

Your father manifested himself to me last night, yesterday evening: “Tonight at half past three I will pass on; I must return for a moment.”

Isn’t it nice, ladies: he had to come back for a moment, in order to finish those last hours with his body.

There are no more buts here either, sir!

There are no buts for God and for Christ, we make them ourselves.

I wish I could give you my heart, my blood and my wisdom, and my knowledge and everything else, like that ...

I would like to cut my heart from my ribs for you, because then I will know that I can make a human being happy. But I cannot do it.

I could weep about it. What you feel, I can weep about that.

Never understand me wrongly, sir, because I love you, I love everyone. Even if you were to break me, then I will laugh at you; I can no longer think wrongly.

Sir, that is good.

Why are you starting to weep now?

We understand each other?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Good.

I will get a hand from you soon?

Well done.

You see, I have experienced thousands and thousands of pieces of proof in this way.

People came back, manifested themselves.

Hundreds of prophecies, thousands of prophecies with my patients, then for the cosmos, then for the hereafter.

Master Alcar materialized a hundred million problems by means of my books.

I do not know any Dutch.

Did I write that?

Sir, every day I look at the wonders I have in the cupboard.

I say: ‘My God.’

Yesterday afternoon I experienced a wonder again.

I had a dish.

I say: ‘I have nothing to do just now, I am meditating, I will paint.’

I took a dish.

I started to play around.

I was thrown out of the room, because I was starting to make a mess.

But Jongchi does not make a mess.

I went into the kitchen, he says: ‘Oh, oh, oh, oh, Mrs Rulof, Mrs Rulof.’

People, have respect for those paintings there, because they are not mine.

I am still sitting weeping about the wonder.

I say: ‘I want to try and make a dish.’

My God, I do not know where I should go with that thing, with those paintbrushes, as sharp as needles.

I have miniatures, they cannot even paint it with my eyes, I do not know how they do it.

I say: ‘My God, my God, the wonders which are there.’

And then you should see those books.

You can also daub with paint, sir, but you cannot write a book about these laws, which take Christ back to mankind as clear as crystal and bring the God of all life under your heart to awakening.

That is not possible.

I cannot do that.

I did not learn that in ‘s-Heerenberg, sir.

I was as stupid as the backside of a pig, when I was at school.

But do not talk about the life.

I was never able to have a book in my hands.

And I will not read it either, sir.

I am now infallibly busy explaining the word to the human being, the question.

They have still never been able to tie me up, like this; and it sometimes started to creak here.

Didn’t it?

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

It concerned the atmosphere and the gravities of space.

Sir, if you no longer have any feeling for that, then you can come with Einstein, and with every theologian, all your theologians, all the spiritual faculties of the earth, as far as astronomy, then I will prove to you that I checkmate them, with the masters.

Because I have this contact.

And then you can just start to say ‘but’, then the psychiatrist will, the psychologist will tell you: ‘Yes, sir, we must agree with him.’

Several psychologists and psychiatrists have already done that.

But I also challenge the astronomer, the theologian, sir.

I challenge the highest consciousness of this world for the spiritual faculties.

You can go and sit down there with five thousand academics, and then you can fire off a barrage of questions at me.

I am in contact with all the masters of space, for every faculty – not for your technical wonders, but if it is necessary, that is also possible.

I instantly have Socrates, Buddha, Mohammed, Ramakrishna, Annie Besant here, because I am the far point for them; they all serve for the University of Christ.

Also another ‘but’?

I am boasting a bit this evening, but there is inspiration in this.

I have another two minutes.

Who has another question?

Are you satisfied, my dear friend?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, indeed.’

Thank you.

But I am only concerned with ... yet another ‘but’, will we just stop with these 'buts'?

You see, I really want satisfaction from you.

And I want to give you the satisfaction which comes from me.

I want to talk for a thousand years in order to give you it, because I know what happiness it will be soon.

You will be more expansive.

You will do those things differently.

Here in society you will start to act differently.

What you could not do yesterday, you do today; that gives you a colour, that gives you inspiration.

Your tone, artists, your sound on the piano becomes lighter.

Your colours as an artist will become different.

You will awaken in everything.

Your personality will expand.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Mr Rulof?’

Yes, sir.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The wisdom which those theologians have, they got that from the bible, didn’t they?

Imagine, we are sitting at that post ... the consciousness ...’

Nothing.

‘Nothing?’

Nothing.

The theologian must stick to the bible, the theologian, or he will immediately be chased away from the university the same morning.

As a student you do not have any buts.

If you are a student and you want to become a theologian, minister, and you stand before your professor and you say: ‘Yes, but I do not accept that’ ...

‘Get out!

Get out!’

And there were a great deal thrown out the past fourteen years.

Ladies and gentlemen, I thank you for your kind attention, and see you on Sunday morning, then you will hear master Zelanus again.

(There is clapping.)