Good evening, my ladies and gentlemen, my sisters and brothers.

(Hall): ‘Good evening master Zelanus.’

Which of you can ask me the first question?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master, why did God give the masters the order to build the pyramid in Egypt, which ... the coming of Christ’s birth, His suffering, His death, that also comes under it ... and that Christ was born in Palestine?’

Why?

Why did you get a church?

Why did you receive the bible?

Well?

Why?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I did not receive a bible.’

Did you not receive a bible?

The pyramid was built in order to give the human being a natural, cosmic, divine image for his own evolution.

But no one knows the pyramid.

Do you see?

It still has to be discovered.

The pyramid was built in such a way ...

People actually wanted to erect the university of the universe by means of stones.

In the future, later you will get the explanation, and that is material, pre-animal-like, animal-like, coarse-material; the prehistoric age, the origin of the universe, of the cosmos, the macrocosmos, planetary system ...

Have you ever heard that an Egyptologist spoke about the planetary system?

We have not spoken about this either in the books.

The cosmos, moon, sun, stars, darkness, night, light, animal, human being, nature, was recorded in the pyramid.

So the pyramid is actually a divine foundation, a temple, given by the masters, so that the human being will get to know God one day, not only by means of nature, but also by means of the stones.

Foundations for soul, spirit, personality, astral world, you will find all of that in the pyramid again.

But no one has discovered that yet.

Otherwise you would have received the books, of course.

The human being who writes about this is wrong.

The human being who speaks about this, and does not know those laws ...

Master Alcar did not speak about it with André either, because that was still too deep.

Now, during this time that was possible.

The human being who speaks about this, does not know the spiritual pyramid, nor the material one.

The pyramid was built up according to the cosmos, not according to the bible.

If you want to analyze the pyramid by means of the bible, you will enter a maze.

The pyramid begins with the origin of the moon.

But where does that point, that foundation, lie?

Make inquiries.

I do not believe that there is now one human being who has seen, has experienced the pyramid in such a way.

Can you feel this?

Anything else?

Do you know now what the pyramid is?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, but my question is, why?

Why was it built in Egypt?’

Because Egypt is the core of and for mystical wisdom, the core of the very first human thought.

So Holland, Europe, and everything which lies around that, is growth.

Can you feel this?

So there was a place where the master began.

Is that clear?

Exactly like the moon also began in the own heart – to evolution, the cell life – so there was a point, the middle for the earth, the heart for the wisdom.

Is it clear now?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Thank you.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master, what do you think of the fact in ‘The Stones Speak’, that is the ...’

You cannot accept that.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

No.

I would like to prove to the man that he is wrong.

He starts ...

Look, everything which you analyze by means of the bible, that takes you to untruths.

At the beginning of the bible, the bible already begins with untruths, because creation – you know that; and the academic now accepts that, the academic is that far – creation was already millions of ages old when the bible was still to be written.

Can you feel this?

Now the human being begins to analyze the pyramid according to the bible.

And then you are wrong; you do not have any grasp, any truth, any reality.

You can make calculations; they all come out wrong.

Perhaps you are right here and there, a piece of luck.

That can also be psychometrics.

But now it is not a study, now it is no longer spiritual wisdom, now it is only feeling, thinking.

Every writer who wants to analyze the pyramid by means of the bible, becomes stuck.

Just make enquiries.

Follow everything and you will accept it.

(To the hall): Anything else?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, master Zelanus.

What value does the bible have then for mankind?’

The bible has the value for mankind, with what Christ brought.

The story of Moses, the Old Testament, by means of which God speaks, is untruth.

Do you accept that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

No, you do not accept that.

God was never able to speak as a human being.

Do you accept that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

Then I cannot speak to you.

Because God never spoke before as a human being.

When Moses got the task, you will not accept that either, he lives before that task in a conscious world, in a Land of Twilight, and there he got the task of returning to the earth and becoming Moses.

You will probably not accept that Christ had to follow the same path as you from the moon through the macrocosmos.

Do you accept that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I do not know that, I cannot judge that.’

Look, when I tell you that – and you can accept this – take ‘The Peoples of the Earth’, take ‘The Origin of the Universe’, take the books, then that still remains for you: is that true?

Now you can accept this, and put it aside; we tell you: when the bible was written, this word, creation was already millions of centuries old.

The academic accepts that.

The academic of your university can prove to the theologian that he begins wrong, and that he begins with untruth, because the human being was born in the waters.

And not as the bible says.

Do you accept that?

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

Then I cannot continue.

Do you see?

What is now true from the bible?

The human being born in the waters, goes from planet to planet, comes to the earth, reincarnates, gets new lives, millions of lives, and continues in order to represent God, as an independent God – you are a spark of God – in the universe.

So God was never a human being; you are that.

Do you not accept that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes ...’

There you are.

So if you can accept a few foundations, then I can go deeper and I can analyze those laws for you.

And then you must just say: could that be true?

But the wisdom, the academic, your astronomer, your biologist will have to prove it soon.

And foundations were already laid, by means of which, I told you, the biologist can explain to the theologist: look, what it says there, that from the bible, I experience the same university.

And people proclaim untruth to you.

I can prove to you that we were already millions of years old, and already human beings.

And that the human being was born differently than the bible explains.

Do you accept that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Do you see?

Now you can experience the macrocosmos, and you can go continually further.

From planet to planet, from human being to human being, from fatherhood to motherhood; and you continue in this way in order to reach the Divine All, the conscious Divine All, and then you will be a divine independence.

You are also that now, as a human being; that is something entirely different.

What does the bible mean now for the human being?

When Christ spoke about the love ...

Those stories from the Old Testament, that God favours, elevates one life, gives love, and lets the other life be destroyed; can that be accepted?

Do you see?

What is good now?

Only then when the Christ represents and speaks the love, the cosmic love purely and clearly.

Now people also put words into Christ’s mouth which Christ never spoke.

Can you feel this?

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘How do we know that?’

Yes, that is difficult.

Now you must bring the cosmic law for birth, for good, for justice, harmony, you must bring that into connection with the human thinking and feeling.

And when an untruth, something contradictory comes now, then Christ could never have said that, nor could God have materialized that, because that is not possible.

And then you slowly work it out.

I do not know whether you want to read, but take ‘The Peoples of the Earth’; you get the beginning of the creation, the planets, the systems.

Then you get the origin of the hells, which do not exist; they are unconscious spheres.

We speak about the hells, but the human being invented and thought up the word hell.

So they are all laws, grades of life, spaces, spheres.

Then you get the heavens, you go to the fourth cosmic grade, the fifth, the sixth, and the seventh is the Divine All, the Divine All.

Then we go through Moses, how Moses was born, to Golgotha, from Golgotha to Napoleon, then to Adolf Hitler, then you go out of this war, and then you enter the new time.

You must read that book and then we can probably continue.

Or do you have other questions?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No.’

Are you satisfied with that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Thank you.

That is a lot.

(To someone in the hall): Yes.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, at the moment I am busy reading the book by Doctor Whitland (?), and he is an American doctor ...’

I know that book, child, André ...

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ...who together with his wife held liberation séances.

Now there are a few things which grieve me, and that concerns this ...

I also made a comparison with your books.’

Take the books ‘A View into the Hereafter’ and you will know how long it takes – we let André read those books – how long it takes before the human being is liberated from a character trait.

And the demons come through there, and speak, and are taken to the heavens like that by means of a little story?

That is nonsense.

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, but what I find incorrect in these books, and I wanted to put this to you, is this: in all the books it says, that if people want the higher will and to go higher up, then the demons have the longer the less hold on you, because a blue haze lies round you ...’

That is true.

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ...which they cannot penetrate.

But now I dispute this book, and I also closed it, I do not want to read any further.

There is a remark which is very impertinent, because there it is said that, however good people are, however good their characters are, however good their wills are, however good their thoughts are, at a certain moment people are taken possession of by a demon anyway.

And to give this example: there was a woman who was married very, very happily to her husband, and was very happy with the children.

But at a certain moment the husband finds her hanging on a rope.

And when she was outside of her body, it was only then that she understood that people who were not favourably disposed towards her, and who had therefore already passed over, and who were jealous of her human happiness with her husband, they had driven her just as long until she hung herself; and she did not know what she was doing.

And I do not understand that, that if people want good they can still go crazy.

Because in this way everyone can go crazy anyway, because they want the good.’

And that is not possible.

If you want the good and you do not want to know about hanging, you cannot be destroyed just like that.

Of course, there is a possibility ...

Which personality was that soul, that spirit?

Could she be influenced?

Was she within reach of the astral personality?

Many murders occur because of the other side.

You know that.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

But if you are good and you have happiness, then you cannot be destroyed just like that.

Then you can ...

If you possess happiness, that is a space of depth, of thinking, of feeling, of strength.

Can you then suddenly descend into the deepest, very deepest, lowest darkness?

In other words, can you suddenly lose your feeling, your will?

But that’s it, the hanging, isn’t it?

You can, because of sorrow, suffering, struggle, you can end your life, most certainly.

I also did that.

Because of the misery, you are tortured, you sit there alone, that is possible.

Millions of people commit suicide; came there because of misery, because of destruction.

But there is still always a will.

And if that will is spiritually conscious, can you feel this now, and you have earned that foundation ...

You can say: I am good, and I want this, but people must do that ...

You must prove that completely, whether you are so strong, in order to be able to receive those feelings.

The first sphere is a sphere of possession.

The human being says: I am doing this and I will do that, and I will do that tomorrow, and I can do this.

If the hundred percent will, love, kindness, justice, is demanded of you, then you will dissolve completely in that will, and then you will be will, strength, love, justice and harmony.

And if five percent of the hundred is not in you, then you can also succumb.

But that book, we let André read that, also other books, that book is contrary to the reality.

There are people who are convinced by a trance medium, and people talk for a while to the human being ...

I am not imagining that I can reach you in one evening, in ten, twenty, a thousand evenings; you must begin with it yourself.

And the way from the Land of Twilight to the first sphere can take ten thousand years.

You can, for one character trait you could need a thousand years, in order to conquer that.

And can you then, by talking, by reading the books, can you better yourself by that?

Yes, indeed, you get knowledge in you.

But knowledge is possession, and possession is experiencing, and experiencing is the undergoing of every law, thought, strength, such as God spiritualized and materialized the creations.

So the human being must conquer himself in nature, for the universe, by means of love, and master that space as feeling, as thought.

Now your feeling grows, your thought, your deed, and rises out above the material feeling and thinking, and touches, gets attunement to the cosmos, to the divine law, harmony, love, serving, giving, and so on.

But that book has a thousand mistakes, untruths.

And now you can compare, always to Christ again, always to the universe again, you can compare it to your daily life.

The astral life is not so deep if you have a grasp to a certain extent; and you can experience that in ‘The Views into the Hereafter’, ‘The Cycle of the Soul’, ‘Between Life and Death’.

Do you see?

You have books.

And that is not because we wrote those books, but you can make human, material, spiritual comparisons here, and now you stand before the philosophical systems, that is and that is called: when am I love?

When am I really harmonically one with the laws for nature, through God, through Christ?

Isn’t it true?

(To the hall): Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, master Zelanus, just about that book again, if you don’t mind.’

Go on.

(Lady in the hall): ‘It is also about this, let’s say, that if someone were to pass over ...

And in your books we read, they enter a sphere in which we had stayed here on earth for a time.

But now that book mentioned that a person who was therefore ‘beyond the coffin’, reached consciousness at a certain moment, and then he was suddenly tangled up in the aura of the living person.

Well, I think that is nonsense.

Is that true?’

That is possible.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Is that possible?’

Yes, indeed.

Then the human being is attached to that aura.

You can for example ...

You now come, this evening you come ‘beyond the coffin’, and you say: I am no longer involved with anyone.

And then there comes, suddenly thousands of people charge at you, people, men and women.

They are people, not from now, during this time, but from your previous life.

So you are not only involved with those people ‘beyond the coffin’, but other worlds can come to you.

Can you feel this?

And then you enter that aura, and you absorb that aura, because you still have to make amends for that.

Do you mean this?

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, master Zelanus, I believe that you do not quite understand me.

What it says in that book, that that person still lives on earth.

He then had that person who had already passed over in his aura.

That is also possible, yes.

(Lady in the hall): ‘That seems absurd to me.’

No, that is not absurd.

Why?

We paint, we write, we speak, so I am now in this earthly aura.

Is that true?

Well?

Is that absurd?

(Lady in the hall): ‘No, that is conscious, you come here consciously.

But this person passes over, so, let’s say ...’

Yes.

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ... someone who has just heard about the life in the hereafter.’

I have understood you.

Can you feel this?

Whether you now live on the other side now, or you come to earth, that person is drawn back by a situation which lives on earth, can you feel this?

And that aura has to do with that life, that is the personality.

So you are attracted, you do not need to look on the other side when you experience that sphere, you can already be attracted by an earthly personality.

So not only there, but also here; that is one world.

Do you understand it now?

(Lady in the hall): ‘But the own personal will then, master Zelanus?’

You did not have that, for that matter.

I told you: if you have hundred percent will, and that will represents the spiritual characteristics of you, then no one can attract you anymore.

But if you lack five percent, then you are probably sucked empty by millions of people, and they attract you; that is the other side.

Because you know those people, you experienced those people, and you still have to serve for them, you must make amends.

So every wrong thought which you have experienced here, in whatever country, amongst whatever people, remains, if that wrong thought was not dissolved by you.

So every wrong thought must right itself, must get spiritual becoming conscious, it is only then that you will be free from the earth.

We are now beginning with that in The Hague, the lectures: how do I get a spiritual personality?

The divine personality for the human being.

Millions of laws now lie open to you and you must conquer all of them as a human being.

You experience the material of that – many people the pre-animal-like, the animal-like – the material grade in strength.

Until the human being experiences the things harmonically spiritually, such as God created the creation, the human being, animal, flower and plant.

Is it clear?

You have everything in your hands.

How difficult that life becomes, but how beautiful it is, once you have it.

(To someone in the hall): Yes?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus.

With all your refutations, the law of reincarnation has already been elucidated very well.’

Already lies open.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But would you perhaps be good enough to indicate once more that direct law for lesser initiates in the temple.’

The direct law of reincarnation?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Murder your friend and you will return to the earth.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, thank you.’

That’s it.

If you murder, if you take the human being’s life, can you feel this, then you are attached to the planet earth.

This is the mother.

And that mother gives you the life in order to grow, and you take away from that life, because of hatred, or whatever reason, the time for that becoming conscious.

So you must return.

And that is only the murder.

You can steal, I told you, and commit arson, you can lie and deceive as much as you want, that is cause and effect.

That effect comes, I told here.

But the murder connects you directly and becomes karmic law, that means: giving birth to new life by creating.

If you are a man now – I explained that to you, and you will read in the books – you will become a mother, in order to give that life that time back which you stole there or deformed.

Do you understand it now?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I do not mean that.’

No, but that’s it.

You can no longer get round it.

There is nothing more to say.

This is the law, and is the foundation for murder and reincarnation.

Now you have the harmonic reincarnation and the disharmonic reincarnation.

Can you feel this?

Do you wish to go there?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, I actually mean more that the law of reincarnation for lesser initiates is a bit easier to accept.’

For what?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The law itself, the law of reincarnation itself.’

When I say, what?

What?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘For your feeling.’

But what must I still talk about, if the murder takes you back to the reincarnation, the new birth?

You have, I told you, the disharmony as birth, that is the murder.

You are all too long here on earth, I told you that.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, indeed.’

You accept that?

Science asks itself: why are there so many people coming?

Because the human being does wrong, the human being remains too long on earth in order to evolve, you take possession of the time of another life.

If the people, if we had remained in harmony, then there would not have been so many people on earth.

Then the mother would not need to give birth to ten, twenty children either, then she would only give birth to two lives, for her husband and for herself, in order to experience the reincarnation.

You will feel, thousands of chaos’s, thousands of problems created by the human being, which brought nothing else but disharmony between life and death, astral world, reincarnation, God, universe.

Is it clear now?

Not yet?

Then first read those eighteen, nineteen books, and then you will ask those questions.

You know, but I cannot go back to the human being whom you think about and sense, that human being must first start to read.

Those books were written for that, in order to help you, in order to give you a way, so that you can see those laws.

Is that clear?

Did you have anything else?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, thank you.’

Not any more now?

(To someone in the hall): Over there.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, I wanted to ask you: before he passes over into the winged species does the ape experience any other organisms?’

The ape?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The ape.’

The ape is – you must listen carefully – the very first grade which has to experience all the other grades.

So the lion is further than the ape.

Had you thought that?

(Hall): ‘No.’

No.

So first you get the living it up of the own grade of life, and then the destroying of that grade.

Because the animal gets wings.

That is the cosmic consciousness for every animal.

The animal gets the wings, just as the human being gets the wings of consciousness inwardly.

So that animal, that ape consciousness is the very first stage, and will have to dissolve that stage.

And now what?

Suddenly to the winged animal species?

It is not possible.

Another thousand species of animals, organisms, are produced, who have to accept and to experience that life, in order to finally be the winged species; and that is the universe for the animal.

Is it clear?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, master.’

At your service.

(To the hall): ‘Who?’

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, can it already be established where those first people lived?’

Where they now lived?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Where those first people lived.’

Yes, here.

They used to be here.

(Lady in the hall): ‘And science claims that they first lived in Asia.’

They were also here, before.

Here.

Asia and Holland are one.

There was only earth.

The first people had the earth; you have that too.

But now people say ...

There were no borders, there was nothing; there were only woods, jungles.

So the whole earth was Asia.

Is it clear?

So this is why I say: they lived here.

Anything else?

(To the hall): Which of you?

Yes?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, master Zelanus.

Science is busy at the moment with a new view with regard to the cosmology.

And now the academics have formulated the following hypothesis: the visible universe is becoming larger and larger in their opinion.’

It is growing.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes, it is growing.’

Larger is not possible.

It is growing.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The visible universe.

But now I am faced with the following question: is new material continually produced, and they ask themselves, where does that material come from now?’

Yes, if only they knew that now.

Did I not tell you, and do you not read in ‘The Origin of the Universe’ that the earth is only thirteen years old?

And the macrocosmos came precisely on time from the puberty years.

The macrocosmos, sun, moon and stars, are only thirteen and fourteen years old.

So up to thirty-six, thirty-eight years old, according to human calculations, is for the macrocosmos and the earth thirty-six million years in ages, the earth will also become that old.

You have only begun.

The macrocosmos is five seconds old in comparison to the infinity for growth, for that consciousness which we get and which the macrocosmos gets, which is and possesses the spiritual grade.

So there comes, there are still astral spiritual sources, which have not been touched yet, they still have to get the time of evolution.

But they are only just the little sparks, the crumbs, they are post-creations.

You have ...

If there is an academic amongst you, then we can continue.

It is no use to me in explaining those systems, because you will lose yourself, you will not have any grip.

Because you follow the cosmology and have read the books, it is possible to a certain extent.

But then you get that you become free from the earth.

I explained the haze specks, the grades of stars, the grades of planets.

You have conscious motherhood and fatherhood in the universe.

The moon is the All-Mother for the universe.

What do people know about that All-Mother?

A dead being, the moon is dead; the moon has already completed the cosmic task.

Do you see?

You are now that old.

One age is past in the universe, and that is: the moon as mother has completed her task.

So that life ...

The first death ...

While the human being, the cosmos, has to accept and will experience millions of deaths.

Where are we going now?

There are therefore spaces, that is a grade of life which is still half-waking spiritual and half-waking material.

That means, the universe radiates; those powers, that rarefied power, that spiritual power, that is still divine substance, that is still protoplasm as it were, that has already been inspired, such as we explained the planets, the secondary planets for the moon to you.

When the moon began, she immediately created new life for the universe and the human being could go further.

You have read that.

And that is completely finished.

No more planets can be born, because those condensings are no longer there; that should already have happened millions of years ago.

Can you feel this?

So that independence has represented a source as a body.

Now you also have worlds as an astral power, about which the academic says: hey, these are vacuous spaces.

We must now establish that there are no vacuous spaces.

There is a power in there which must still become visible as it were.

Did you not know that?

You can now descend from the visible – so the visible material cosmos – into seven different conscious, visible worlds, until you enter that world where that power lives.

And then you are just out of the moment, when the All-Mother started to give birth.

And now we can experience grade after grade, but then I must go with you through this whole conscious material system, through the macrocosmos, in order to go back again, in order to explain those half-conscious material particles – half-conscious, you see; because you still cannot see them, and they are there – in order to explain those half-conscious material particles, those little cells, as grades and laws of life for macrocosmic consciousness, as material, as life, as soul, as spirit, as light.

As fatherhood and motherhood?

That is already no longer there.

Do you see?

Where are we going?

So the academics will later establish thousands of worlds and yet finally get everything in their own hands, because fatherhood and motherhood are the divine laws which represent the All-Source.

And everything is just a side issue.

They are the kidneys of your body.

The light in the eyes in the sun.

They are the brains.

It is the astral spiritual nervous system for the macrocosmos.

You find all the parts in there again which you received in your body.

But now ...

So you have ...

We got the light in our eyes from the sun, because the sun shines; light is paternal.

So this light was materialized from the spiritual All-Soul, the source, and became sun in order to shine and to give light.

But you look through that.

And now we must follow that development again only for your light, then for your hearing, then from your life of feeling; that is cosmology.

But the academic of now does not know the moon.

Does not know the moon, do you hear this?

They have the binoculars, they can see that it is a dead body, but people do not understand that body.

People do not understand the human corpse nor the animal corpse.

What happens to the corpse, if the corpse is lying there?

Is it still alive?

Does it still have meaning?

People do not know it.

People have themselves cremated, which is awe-inspiringly wrong, because you need auras on the other side, which you take from that corpse.

Science does not know that.

People say: it is hygienic, it is incredibly beautiful, it is over just like that.

But for the macrocosmos a terrible shock, which I explained to you, and explained clearly, so you can know it.

What does the academic know now about the invisible systems in the macrocosmos, while people ... sun, moon, stars, Jupiter, Venus ...

What is Venus?

What is Saturn?

What is Uranus?

Why did Saturn get a ring?

And why is another planet in that stage, and that one there in that stage?

And why does the earth live between sun and moon?

They do not know it.

They think, the academic thinks that there is higher consciousness present in the macrocosmos; we explained to you, and you can accept that, that the earth has the highest consciousness in the macrocosmos.

People expect that rockets will come from Mars or somewhere else.

And people have the highest consciousness on earth.

What are you still expecting?

You can wait for millions of years; nothing will come from the universe, because the universe lives under your consciousness, as a planet.

You got light by means of the universe.

In other words, the earth is changing, the green is changing, your personality is changing, your sun light is becoming more rarefied, milder, you are getting a climate such as the spiritual climate is in the Spheres of Light, this is how the material growing for the human being is becoming.

The human bodies are changing and are becoming more beautiful, because you are still not beautiful.

The cosmic attunement of and for your beauty as body, that will still take half a million years.

It is only then that you will see the perfect pure cosmic being.

How old will the human being be then?

How old will the human being become then?

Do you see?

There is a cosmic immaculate pure time to die.

You all pass over too soon.

Do you know how old the human being on earth could have been if the human being had lived naturally and harmonically?

What do you think?

(Hall): ‘A hundred.’

A hundred and fifty-seven; not a hundred and fifty-eight.

In order to analyze and to explain that number again, I must go through that cosmos again.

But a hundred and fifty-seven years and probably two seconds, not longer.

And now thirty, twelve, ten, before the birth already.

All disharmony.

Because of diseases you pass over too soon.

You pass over, the worst thing, because of murder, because of arson, because of lies and deception the human being passes over.

The human being has no contact with Christ, after all, does he?

You can pray, but it will not help you.

Christ is another person than the bible, than the Catholic Church and Protestantism explain the Christ.

Christ is a very different person.

(Lady in the hall says something.)

What did you say?

Can you feel this?

You get to see the pure divine spatial Christ.

And He went from the moon through all the laws.

He knew it.

He knows it.

He experienced it.

He was there.

He came back from the Divine All.

Now everything changes.

And now you go outside of your feeling and thinking.

You now have nothing to do with the bible, because the creations were already there, the divine laws were already finished, the human being had already been created.

What do you want?

Every word from your dictionary, take that into account, was not built up by God.

Because every word can mean a law.

But you thought up those words, the human being.

And the law of nature is for ‘yes’ ...

What is that?

If you say: yes, I have truth, what does the law of nature say then?

What is that?

Do you not even know that?

If you must be born, you get the life,

If you are touched and you must return to the earth, then the reincarnation is ‘yes’, the divine ‘yes’.

Do you see?

But a law.

You must return in order to be a father, a mother, in order to evolve.

Where must we go?

All books; every word is a book now, in order to explain those laws to you.

Is it enough?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Thank you.

(To the hall): Is there anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘But, master Zelanus, it is still not always disharmony, is it?’

What?

(Lady in the hall): ‘It is still not always disharmony.

But you also came back to the earth in order to experience motherhood, didn’t you?’

Yes, but then you are that far.

You are, accept it, if you get a fright I will not say it, but accept it: there is not one human being on earth, now – who has not completed your cycle and who lives on the other side; but you are here – there is not one human being on earth who is free from disharmony.

That does not exist.

Because then you would no longer be here.

You are still here.

Do you see?

Because you had already, you are certainly a million years old, you have certainly experienced ten thousand lives too many here.

Can you feel this?

Experienced too many, because you did so much – every human being, I too, everyone – because we did so much evil, so much wrong.

God created us in love, in harmony, but we started to demand, we wanted to possess everything.

The consciousness ‘I want that’, and ‘I want this’, came too high, and then the destruction began.

God knew that.

People also ask again: why did God create the human being like this then?

God created the human being in harmony, in justice, in love.

And now we are those gods, those visible gods.

Can you feel this?

So if I continue ...

Socrates had wanted to experience the final image for these systems, and your Kant, and the great, philosophical thinkers on earth had wanted to experience that.

But now the final before which we now stand.

And what does that mean now?

What does that mean, for you?

Now?

Who knows it?

Then I will analyze in one word: why did God not create the human being perfectly?

Can you understand, get the hang of that, feel that?

You cannot.

Look, you must know it, because you have already experienced so many lectures, I explained those laws to you.

You are God yourself.

Why do you do that wrong?

That is not being wrong, that is awakening and evolution.

But you think, if you possess that and that grade of life for consciousness, you think, after all, that you are doing good, don’t you?

So that is all awakening, evolution.

It should be like that.

It is like that.

You must not be angry at the human being who murders, he will make amends for that.

He must also make amends for everything.

But if you start to feel ...

And now you got that certainty because of the Messiah, because of the Christ. He say: but thou shalt not kill.

Why do you let yourself be used as a murderer?

You will love everything.

How false is your law of justice?

How false is society, that you must go and listen to people who say: kill!

You kill.

People force your child to kill.

And what does Christ say?

God?

(Hall): ‘Do not kill.’

Do not kill.

Why does your queen approve of that?

But that is the highest for God, isn’t it?

Yes, indeed.

For God she is, and all those people are, all those great people, are only sparks, cells and grades of life.

God has nothing to do with your Holland, your France, your Belgium, because Belgium, France and all the peoples of the earth, every insect is a part of His heart.

God does not favour any human being above the other one.

And what do you want now?

Do you feel?

That earthly society will dissolve one day anyway.

You will finally leave everything behind.

And only the life, you are that, a spark of life of the creation will remain and continue.

You represent your own deity.

The people now live in the Divine All, they are gods.

Those gods – the human being as deity – now live on earth and destroy the own life; that is your child, your father, your mother.

You can no longer avoid your own family, because you have already experienced the whole of this mankind.

And you, how do you feel for these children?

Do you love these lives?

If they steal from you, then just let them go, then you must wait.

If they devastate and destroy you, speak ill of you, then you must not want to be involved with those lives.

You will have to accept those lives one day anyway.

But you do not need to go and live in lies and deception, if you know that it is wrong.

This is why Christ came, only with love.

Can you feel this?

Simple, after all.

The pure love of Christ takes care of everything.

And that is the law, the law: I am alive.

You are a mother.

When your cycle is over, you go to a new world, the astral spiritual conscious world, darkness or light.

You can earn that light, because you act, you do your deeds according to the divine harmony, and then your divine attunement comes upwards.

Can you feel this?

So that personality in you awakens, pre-animal-like, animal-like, material, spiritual, cosmic.

Isn’t it simple?

What does the academic know about that?

Nothing.

They do not know the human being.

They do not know that they cannot achieve anything by means of their own thinking and praying and shouting and singing.

People still sing, and people hate so much that sparks fly.

People hate the Catholic child there, Protestantism, the Catholic child hates too, the Jew is raped and deformed; it is his own fault (see article ‘Jewish people’ on rulof.org), of course, he should have accepted the true Christ in Jerusalem.

We write in ‘The Peoples of the Earth’: why is the Jewish child in your time persecuted so much?

Just read ‘The Peoples of the Earth’, then you will get cosmic, divine images which possess truth.

(To the hall): Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, master Zelanus, I find it very sad ...’

Sad?

(Lady in the hall): ‘ ... people act like that out of unconsciousness.

That they do so much wrong.’

That is not unconscious ..., that is evolution.

Can you blame the child in the jungle then that it still scalps, and that it feels like eating your legs?

They do not know any better.

But soon, when we come to stand before Christ – that is the spiritual consciousness for mankind – then we will stop.

Because God does not punish, God has nothing to forgive, you must make amends for it anyway.

You make amends too.

God says: the gain is Mine.

You can murder as hard as you can; but you will go back to the earth anyway.

And then Mother Earth will say: yes, indeed, just wait.

There are accounts lying there; you must return.

Just come, child.

And you are like that, the whole of this mankind is like that.

Now the question of the academic: why are there so many people living?

There are even more people coming, because there are two hundred thousand souls waiting for one organism.

And then, before we began with that destruction, we were back on earth within seven weeks.

And now it takes seven thousand and seventy thousand years before you receive a new body.

Why?

Because there are hundreds of thousands, in that and that harmony, who go before you.

So just destroy and just murder mankind, then you can also wait so many thousand centuries for every human being.

It takes that long now before you get a new body.

What happens here now on earth?

The human being lives too long on earth, because the human being has spoiled and sullied the divine reincarnation for the spirit.

We have to accept those laws, because it is like this.

Sad.

(To the hall): Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, summing up what you say: is the concept of good and evil very relative anyway, as long as you do not engage the cosmic meaning there.

Because if I now, to give an example, think of something, and that I think that I am acting correctly, is it from a cosmic point of view ...’

Wrong.

Can be wrong.

Every academic, as theologian of your church, whatever church, for the macrocosmos he is a pupil in those laws.

All your ministers are so awe-inspiringly poor with regard to the cosmos.

They know the bible, most certainly.

But the bible is not a macrocosmos, and does not possess any divine laws.

Because you can murder as hard as you want in the bible.

Finally, then a word comes: ‘Thou shalt not kill.’

People do it anyway.

The minister even goes to the battlefield and prays there for the people.

Why does he not serve here?

Why do you not prevent that praying at the battlefield and say: do not murder.

Because Christ brought the ten commandments: ‘Thou shalt not kill.’

No, people go to those people who murder, people sit down, and pray.

‘And Father will forgive them for what they do’?

No, they first get their medals, from your society.

And then they have still done good.

Do you see?

That was not wrong, that murdering.

But that ‘Thou shalt not kill’, of Christ and of God, has no meaning now.

Isn’t it true?

Nice society.

Your society still thinks pre-animal-like.

Because if you were just animal-like conscious, then that evil would not even be there anymore.

An animal does not do that.

Yes, an animal eats.

But the human being murders consciously.

An animal does it only because the animal must eat in the jungle.

But not the human being.

So you do not even have the animal-like consciousness in your society.

And you will have to master the spiritual feeling and thinking with regard to God and nature and all the commandments.

How far are you?

How far is mankind?

Because of the talking and the singing of your minister?

Do you see?

What is the bible, sir?

Little remains of the bible if you stand before Christ and God.

He will say: ‘Do not sing any longer, because in the heavens we keep our fingers in our ears.

Because you will demonstrate deeds.

Do not sing any longer.’

Do you think that Christ and the masters and the people on the other side want to listen to that false crowing?

The people do not mean that, for that matter, do they?

Do you wish to say that ...

If you really want to be spiritually true, and want to experience spiritually truly, then sing, then it will have value.

But then first stop hating, destroying.

Because the Catholic Church, and Protestantism, the Jewish child, and every sect, they are the children of God; every insect is from God.

Why would you hate?

Why do you not start to understand the life, minister?

Well, you are not like that.

(To the hall): Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, master Zelanus.

Just about good and evil.

You talked last week, or two weeks ago you talked about vivisection, tests on animals, and that if people really wanted to serve, that people should apply it to themselves.’

If you want to serve, yes.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.

But ultimately many medicines were passed on from the Other Side, such as for example, professor Enrlich needed horse serum in order to be able to cure diphtheria.’

Yes.

(Lady in the hall): ‘He needed the horse especially for that; he could not have had me for that, he could not have had any human being for that.’

Yes, indeed.

For every disease ...

You do not search enough and sufficiently in nature.

But for every disease there is a herb growing in nature.

And you do not need any animals and any people for that.

Homeopathy is universally conscious.

Animal-like food, an injection, a serum from whatever animal, is still improbable, even if it helps you.

But you find the real clear natural cure in nature.

Homeopathy will soon rise out above all those sciences.

Because then the master will come, and will say: you must take that, and this for this, and that for that.

And just use that.

And it will be done.

Why?

You will soon come to stand before the animal.

The poison of a snake, in a manner of speaking, is a cure for those and those diseases.

Why do you not take it?

People already do it.

Do you see?

I am right.

Soon ...

Because the snake has, science does not yet know that, and you, people, do not think so far, but the snake has the poison in order to cure the human being of that and that and that.

If a snake bites you, it is just in order to cure you. (laughter)

If a snake bites you, then the animal says: I have food for you, medicine.

But you cannot stand it.

Isn’t it true?

But people are now already using the snake, the poison of the snake – don’t you find it remarkable? – in order to cure other diseases.

And in this way the animal has everything in it as normal food, a normal law, as power, originated from the animal, poison.

And that poison can be used for those and those and those and those diseases.

Isn’t it nice?

And science is already busy with that.

By what means do people get that?

From the Temple of Docters.

Do you see?

You must not violate an animal, a little rabbit and all those other things, the food lives in nature, and the animal will give it to you.

When the people still lived in paradise and someone became ill, the master there, the conscious one said: ‘Go to your brother.’

And see, the cobra came and gave the poison, and the human being got better.

That happened.

Those people lived.

What does society know, this consciousness, which knows nothing else than living it up, murder and arson, what does the university know about the soul, the spirit, the astral personality in the human being?

Nothing.

You psychologists still have to awaken, still have to begin in order to lay the first foundations.

Isn’t it true?

(To the hall): Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, but that professor Ehrlich, who was passed on that in order to ... there the external parts of the horse ... but he was passed that one from the Other Side, wasn’t he?

So if everything like that together ...’

He says that.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Well, so is it not true?’

If the master from the first sphere – isn’t it true? – if he told him, use that horse in order to produce that serum, the master is a cursed being.

You always violate yourself, and then a noble animal.

Why is the horse the highest noble animal in the universe, for everything on earth?

You cannot experience a higher feeling and deeper thinking, kindness and love anywhere than in the horse.

Do you know that?

Why?

Because it says nothing and always serves.

And you destroy that.

And the master from the other side must come in order to tell the academic: you must take that horse?

No, take yourself.

(Another lady in the hall): ‘You can just do that once, then he dies.’

There is no more needed than that either.

You must not interrupt me.

There is no more needed than that.

She should have said that, not you.

Angry?

No.

(To the hall): Did you have anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, master Zelanus.

You always said, we must learn to think.

Now I am trying to think.

And continuing with that, you say: the master would not have done that.’

No, not I.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Fine.

But then the black genius, I will just say, has influenced him.

But then that black genius had a good turn, because a great many people were saved by that serum.’

So.

And did you really think that that is saving?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Because they go on living.’

Would you think that?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Why do you not die in your own time?

You do not go a second too early anyway.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Should you not help then if you see someone suffering?’

You cannot even help the human being.

They are laws, after all, aren’t they?

We stand before the karmic law of cause and effect, as diseases.

You come through the cosmos in disharmony if you violate another life, in order to build up one life, and to destroy the other one.

That is not possible.

So we experience, so we analyze the immaculate pure divine harmonic law: how should I act.

Isn’t it true?

We are not saying that the earth, mankind, does and possesses that; that is all theft.

And you can ...

The academic says: yes, but what should we have done?

That is necessary now.

Can you feel this?

Society can accept that last, final stage, for that matter, that consciousness is still not there.

But do you not believe that mankind will say in a hundred thousand years’ time, when you know the laws: I will not touch the animal again?

Do you see?

Then the human being will find that again in nature.

So you violate lives at the moment.

And because of that you can build up something, because one organ serves the other, or you are wrong again.

So science, the doctor, the chemist can achieve much, much, and much more, if he follows nature.

Because the one animal-like, that is also true again, destroys the other organ.

If you enter the waters and the animals were to give you life ...

If the masters were to give you the diet there such as the universe eats and drinks, isn’t it true, then life would be very different, for that matter.

(To the hall): Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes.

With the atomic energy which is now used, which they are now trying to form in such a way that cancer can be fought by those means, so that has a cosmic meaning, and so that is good?’

You will feel, the technical wonders grow.

The technician, the doctor, they are the only people who can make progress; every other faculty is at a standstill.

Atomic energy is only in order to give and grant the human being the kingdom of God within him, and outwardly.

That means, you will no longer need to do anything here in a thousand years’ time: you will really live as children, as gods.

You will no longer need to work yourself to death for twenty-five cents.

Money will no longer have any meaning.

You will get your food, you can collect it, because the earth, Mother Earth will have enough.

You will work together, a thousand people, for your country, one day, and the rest can go for a walk.

You do here something, of course.

In order to accelerate that, in order to help that along, you do something.

But you get a food, which becomes so simple and so beautiful and so wonderful, because that learning becomes spiritual consciousness, and is now applied to the organism.

So we go from the diseases, to the state of purity and the perfection.

You can establish from the diseases, from the misery which is still experienced now on earth, how the personality of mankind is.

You will read that again in ‘The Peoples of the Earth.’

(To the hall): Anything else?

Thanks for your questions.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But I ...

You said a moment ago, that the earth is full of herbs, which serve to cure mankind.

Are operations then altogether wrong?’

Do operations have to do with herbs?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘No, but they serve too.’

That question has no contact with these questions which are being asked here.

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

A child of seven years ...

You must not do that again.

You must think things through, otherwise I cannot give you an answer.

Now you go from reality to unreal things.

A child of seven years can tell you, if you have appendicitis, you must have an operation.

Or not?

So you ask what you know.

That is no use to me.

Am I right?

(It remains quiet for a moment.)

Of course not.

No, of course not.

The other people agree with me.

You ask something which you know.

Is that any use to me?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘There are operations which could have been prevented, but there are also operations which are indispensable.’

I agree with you, for that matter, agree a hundred thousand times, don’t I?

So I say: you are asking something which you already know.

Is that necessary?

You are stopping the working.

So you are not thinking, you ask a question, just like that.

And you do not think about this.

Am I right?

(Hall): ‘Yes.’

Thank you.

(To the hall): Which of you?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Master Zelanus, the diseases originated because the different grades of life became one with each other.’

They did not originate because of that.

But because of what?

(Someone in the hall says something.)

Not that either.

Disharmony, people call it here.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The different diseases ...’

The different diseases originated because the human being connected himself to another grade.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Precisely.

That’s what I mean.’

They did not originate because of that.

But because of what?

What do you know?

(It remains quiet.)

Well, have you read ‘The Origin of the Universe’?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Yes.’

Then you will know it.

Because ...

It is a part of it; but now penetrate that core, and you stand before the deterioration of an organism.

You lack the pure energy which the seventh, the fifth, the fourth grade possesses as primal attunement.

Is it clear?

(Someone in the hall): ‘Yes.’

So your stomach, your eyes, your hearing, your intestines, were divided, weakened by this division of pure natural divine power.

And now the image comes: the organs therefore no longer possess those powers in order to be able to resist cold, rain, heat.

We were born in the waters.

And now?

Can you stand it to be outside in the winter day in day out?

You should be able to stand that.

You had, the human being had that power.

But because the human being, now I am coming back to your question again, went from the seventh to the fifth grade ...

Can you feel this?

There are seven grades of organisms, from the jungle to the white race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org).

So you go from the seventh grade here, you go to an Eskimo mother (see article ‘Human being or soul’ on rulof.org), you give birth to a child.

But your own natural grade dissolves in the fourth.

Is it clear?

So later, that child again too, grew, came, connected itself there again.

So the natural divine law of life for the organism was spoiled.

We people broke them because we connected with other grades.

So every organ of your organism – the final question – was weakened, spoiled.

You can no longer stand anything.

But in the jungle stage we conquered the cold, the North Pole, the South Pole and all the grades of the cosmos.

Do you accept that?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘I accept that.

But I want to ask: the diseases which now originated, for example with the Papuans in New Guinea ...’

All the diseases now of the earth, are the result of that division.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘But that is ...’

Now you got a disease because and from every climatological circumstance.

The diseases which you have here in the West, they first experienced the primal source in the jungle, there, and evolved gradually – diseases evolve, do you know that? – and gradually evolved from the plague and black pox .

Smallpox and plague, they are all rotting.

And now you have given the name of cancer to that: I have cancer.

That is a law, a grade from those, from those, from those and those diseases.

Can you feel this?

Very clear.

(To the hall): Anything else?

Yes, now just have a think.

Then you will see that yonder, so somewhere in the space on the earth, the core was laid for your tuberculosis, your cancer.

Your epilepsy?

Is that true?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Not epilepsy, I don’t think.’

No.

Good.

Thank you.

Because that is not possible, that is something personal again.

Good for your thinking.

Do you see?

In this way you come further.

And in this way you get space for every core, if you think things through.

Then I will take the trouble to give you that, to give that wisdom.

And you can ...

I will talk that long, until you say: yes, there can be no way round it, no left, no more right, there is just one way.

And that takes you from the source which originated there and there, to the evolving grade for diseases.

For insanity?

Is that possible?

Why is the jungle not insane now?

Why is the jungle not possessed and not apathetic?

One or two perhaps, yes, indeed.

Now can you feel, the higher you come, the more difficult it becomes?

No, the more destruction the human being experiences.

Did Christ not say that?

Should the Messiah have preached and said in the jungle: here is My image, and I will take you to My Father?

Then they would have just have boiled him in a pot.

No, the Christ came to the highest consciousness on earth, and that was Egypt once more.

Or did the West know something about that?

Where did the Christ come; here in your Rotterdam, or your Amsterdam?

That was not there yet.

Can you feel how simple it is becoming, my friend?

(To the hall): Anything else?

(Lady in the hall): ‘Yes, master Zelanus, to continue again with this question ...’

You are a great follower of mine.

If you come soon, I will take care of you and then we will continue.

What is it now?

(Lady in the hall): ‘To continue with this question: how can it be ...

You say: the decay comes from the jungle, and the disease.

But how can it be that the jungle inhabitants have beautiful teeth.’

Yes, you have that too.

(Lady in the hall): ‘How can it be then that we hear and read in medical journals that we do not bite enough crusts, cut off the crusts, that our teeth are deteriorating?

So that is not right, is it?

Because those jungle inhabitants, they are a step ahead of us.’

Yes, indeed.

You have your body ...

The higher you come ...

If you enter the first grade of the jungle, that is an animal-like grade, isn’t it?

But that fragmentation must also come anyway, mustn’t it?

Because you go over the earth, you do this, you do that, you get a thousand diseases.

There you have this and there you have that.

A jungle inhabitant has that too, also knows his diseases, leprosy, and all those other dreadful direct fundamental sources for diseases.

Do you see?

That and that and that race (see article ‘There are no races’ on rulof.org) has that; also once more because of climatological circumstances, because of the sun, because of the heat, because of rotting.

You have here – you can be grateful – you only have your influenza here and other things.

But, you will feel, because of the cold in which you live, you do not recognize those diseases.

This is why I mention, I say: climatological circumstances created diseases, plague and all those fundamental sources for other diseases.

But in the jungle ...

Not the Negro (see article ‘Against racism and discrimination’ on rulof.org), you know that, that is the coloured person. But the source, the natural source, the natural grade as jungle child, that child has still not experienced that fragmentation.

And because ...

And because you ... by means of thousands of things your blood ...

You say as an academic: that blood is pure.

But that blood does not have any cosmic pure core.

Because, and that’s it, because in the first place the physical systems were built up by family members ...

(To the lady who asked the question): Your great-grandfather probably had beautiful teeth; because I can see your beauties.

Now it could be that one body part, can you feel this, which suffers from weakening, murders your teeth.

And now you are, now that one human being is out of that, and the other human being walks precisely into that because of physical destruction.

Because the human being would have been created perfectly.

And the human being was perfect; if the human being had not begun with physical destruction again.

You can accept all of that.

Do you see?

Anything else?

Thanks.

(To the hall): Which of you?

You can think well.

(It remains quiet.)

I will wait.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘May I perhaps also ask something about that lion, which is further than the ape?’

Yes.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘The Darwinian theory says that the ape is further than the lion.’

Darwin could not have given any truth for that, because Darwin was off the mark.

If Darwin says that the human being was born from the ape, Darwin cannot experience any truth in the next stage, because his ground, his natural cosmic foundation has gone.

Truth?

(Gentleman in the hall says something.)

Thank you.

Can you feel how natural all that is?

Darwin says: the human being was born from the ape.

No, the ape is the mirror image of the human being.

Many mystics were wrong; they also existed, and said ...

But they did not see anything, not your Blavatsky, not Pythagoras.

Do you see?

This time can receive that explanation as analysis for the first time.

If we had begun fifty years ago, people would have burnt our instrument at the stake, by means of which we speak.

Isn’t it true?

It is only now that it is possible.

So Darwin cannot experience and see any truth as a subsequent stage; he does not know the first, not the primal cell, from where that life originated.

Is it clear, my friend?

Then I thank you.

(To someone in the hall): Over there.

(Lady in the hall): ‘Where did the Catholic Church get its ceremonies from?

Do they really have a meaning?’

They have no meaning, they are all frills.

Many sects have frills.

Can you feel this?

That must all go.

That will all fall away.

Your singing too.

The Reformed child ...

The bible tells things which, they are no longer natural cores, they become frills, searching.

You cannot make the law any nicer anyway, as life, as source for fatherhood and motherhood, has gone.

Because we are not destroying the Catholic Church.

You cannot, you may not destroy any faith, if that faith does not speak about damnation.

If that faith speaks about damnation, such as the bible ...

How can God damn the human being, himself – you are that – how can he damn that?

Do you see?

And now we go around that.

Now you should see how many frills there are.

Meaningless, but heaven high built up things have a meaning now and mean nothing for the macrocosmos, nor for God, nor for creation, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

What remains of that?

Is that too quick?

What remains of that?

Life and universal love.

Because God does not know any Protestantism, God does not know any Catholicism, any Buddhism; God only knows a philosophical law.

You get spiritual wisdom from me.

Do you see?

Science will soon have to accept all of this.

We will irrevocably be proved right.

I cannot drive the earth onwards, I cannot give the psychologist the consciousness; but there is progress ‘beyond the coffin’.

But he still does not accept that.

So we also get the answer for those thousands and millions of problems.

You can present me with millions of problems, you will get the answer.

Now, now that is possible.

How many questions did you not already ask me during those five years?

How many?

(To the hall): One more question from you.

Who?

Nobody else?

(To someone in the hall): Yes.

(Lady in the hall): ‘That ugly, bad weather, does that have a cause, that has already been like that for so long?’

(There is laughter.)

Yes, that has that cause, that the cosmos was impregnated by those and those powers.

But no more than that either.

Do you see?

The macrocosmos supplies you with rain.

Do you have too much of that?

It will soon be good again, for something.

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Precisely.’

What did you say?

(Gentleman in the hall): ‘Precisely, I said.’

Thank you.

Everything which the cosmos gives you is responsible.

If you had no rain tomorrow?

You now get too much, you say, too much.

But did you think that the universe did not know how much you need this year?

Do you see?

After all, you do not get those laws in your hands.

The human being says: why must I go there, and I ... And my man had to die?

Why did he not stay at home?

I kept saying: why do you have to make that trip now, husband?

But dear father went to his death.

And now society, the human being says: if only he had ... if only he had ... and, if only he had ...

But that is not possible.

Do you see?

So you also get some rain.

I wish you ...

(There is warm laughter.)

I thank you for your cheerful interest.

And see you in a fortnight.

Are you satisfied?

(Hall): ‘Yes, master Zelanus.’

Thank you.