Socrates -- Sources

Source texts from the books by Jozef Rulof for the article ‘Socrates’.
By Ludo Vrebos, based on the books by Jozef Rulof.
These sources presume the prior reading of the article ‘Socrates’.

What is feeling?

Socrates asked mankind questions:
When Socrates began with these teachings ... He says: ‘How do you feel when you are happy?
What is feeling? What is happiness?’
Questions and Answers Part 2, 1951
After the easy answers, Socrates continued:
Then the people told: ‘Yes, I am happy.’
‘Yes’, Socrates says, ‘about the twenty-five guilders which you got there.
But I do not mean that’, he says, ‘I mean that feeling which connects us with all the laws, by means of which we and if necessary all the life originated.’
And then the human being started to think philosophically.
Didn’t he?
Questions and Answers Part 2, 1951
Why do some actions give a happy feeling, and other ones a strange dark feeling?
Socrates said: ‘What happens if I do this?’
When he was at the market of Athens, that shepherd boy, he says: ‘What do you feel if you are happy?
Why do you kiss?
Why do you do that?’
Yes, he wanted to know that.
He says: ‘No, not I, but the world wants to know that.
I want to know why I am happy, why I do that.
If I do that and I hit you, I will get a strange, strange feeling.
What is that?
If I do that, I will be happy, I will have space, I will have feeling.’
Questions and Answers Part 5, 1950
What does a harsh word do to me?
I showed you the philosophical systems, and then you must accept Socrates, Plato, and Aristotles, that it was they who began to think; even if ancient Egypt, the Temples of Ra, Ré, Isis, laid foundations for the mystical teachings, but it is they who started to wonder: “If I say something harsh, something destructive, what will then happen to me?
And what will happen to the human being?
But what will happen to this space?”
Lectures Part 3, 1952
What is still resisting within me in order to do good?
And this source, the consciousness ...
And we will soon learn that again for the personality, as a result of which we get to know a Socrates, Plato.
Because Socrates wondered: if I think and I want to do the good, why do I still have the feeling in me that does not wish to take part in my goodness?
Lectures Part 1, 1950
What is that in me that is not willing?
There Socrates began to think and to feel: if I want, but I do not want what is asked of me there – and now it is I who does not want.
The man Socrates, the life Socrates stood before the own will, the soul, the spirit, and the personality.
Are they independences?
Lectures Part 1, 1950
They then made high philosophy out of it:
Why do we not lay the philosophical systems, like Socrates?
They talk in society, madam, about high philosophy, but that is this.
That does not need to be learned.
You will learn that like that at home.
Do not bark, do not shout.
‘Do not make of your mouth’, the masters say, ‘any gossip.’
You only got the mouth in order to feed yourself, but not in order to speak evil.
Questions and Answers Part 4, 1952

Poisoned chalice

Socrates went a bit further:
Socrates got poison to drink when he came with: ‘What are you if you feel happy?
Where does that feeling come from?’
And he went even further, and then he could drink his cup of poison, because he, Socrates, a child of space, corrupted the human being.
Questions and Answers Part 4, 1952
Master Zelanus calls this the destruction of higher thinking and feeling.
This attunes the human being to the Land of Twilight, the sphere of Gerhard from the book ‘Those who came back from the Dead’:
This is why, if Socrates had received the opportunity to materialize everything from his space then mankind would already have been thousands of years further and the Kingdom of God would be visible here on earth.
But what does the human being do?
People break down the higher thinking and feeling.
And that is exactly the same again if you love the untruth for yourself, if you love the disharmony.
Even if something in you says: “Yes, yes, yes, yes, they are right”, but you cannot do it, then that is the mist behind and for the first sphere, because you are not yet radiating, you have no light, your one character trait attunes you to the sphere where Gerhard and where millions, billions of people enter when they leave this life.
You have to bow for the spiritual truth and you will have to materialize that word.
But – isn’t it true? – if people just touch the human being, when people just say: “Why are you doing that?” then the human being withdraws, there is something to protect himself and then the human being closes himself off from the Divine harmony, from the growing as working; now there is no more working.
People go again from dry land into the ditch, people assure themselves of dark thinking and feeling.
And now the human being is certain?
Yes, here on earth, in this society you are now certain, because you still have material light, but ‘beyond the coffin’ you will not see any flower, any nature, you will have no one.
Lectures Part 2, 1951


When Socrates entered the hereafter, he realized that he had felt correctly, but that he had not materialized the spiritual reality:
And Socrates also fell asleep.
Not from shock, but the joy, the power that he was alive.
He knew: I have entered the infinite and it is as I felt it, but I could not materialize it by words.
Lectures Part 2, 1951
In Ancient Egypt Socrates had already built up his connection of feeling with animals:
Socrates was a child who started to think.
Socrates had a goat, the child played shepherd for a time, he started to talk to the animals.
He says: “How beautiful you are and can you give me a kiss?
How do you think?
What lives in you?
Only just eating and drinking, and the human being kills you.
If only I could go with you here.
If only we could go to a free field, where there is peace and quiet.
But soon people will kill you.”
Socrates began in this way.
Yes indeed, Socrates was also a child who  experienced ancient Egypt.
Lectures Part 2, 1951
Much later, he tells Jozef Rulof where he started with his philosophy:
Socrates tells him that he has spoken to all the life, that he was able to experience many laws during his life on earth.
By means of that he built on the philosophical systems.
The Cosmology of Jozef Rulof Part 2, 1944
Before he got the chance to develop his philosophy, he was silenced forever:
I wanted to give it to those people there, those poor things, those poor souls, those wretches – they think they know everything – but then they placed the poisoned cup before me.
But they will come later too.
Lectures Part 2, 1951
The University of Christ for which he served on earth receives him in the life after the earthly death:
The beings, the Masters from the fourth, the fifth sphere, the cosmic grade – because they know what these children did for space – they come to him again, in order to be able to receive this life.
And an hour later Socrates walks with the mother from the first sphere, the second, the third, the fourth, the fifth and the seventh sphere and the mother from the fourth cosmic grade in her golden luminous garment, with the light from the spaces, for her consciousness in her eyes, as a luminous beauty of truth, loving and kind, through the Spheres of Light, and this goat child feels supported.
Lectures Part 2, 1951
Socrates asked about the goat as a result of which he had started to think on earth:
Then Socrates says: “And where is my goat?”
Because Socrates got to know God and space when he stood before his goat and he got a lick from that animal and he said: “How must I understand this, it is so warm, so good, so loving.”
Because this sheep child began to learn to think when he saw that the animal absorbed the blades from the field.
And he said: “How is all of that sorted, that precisely that grass is ready for my animal?”
Lectures Part 2, 1951
In the temple of the wisdom in the spheres of light he learns that every thought must be experienced in harmony with the spiritual reality:
And there we see Socrates now, walking through the Spheres of Light, in and out of temples.
He is in the temple of wisdom, of mysticism, the sciences.
How do you learn to think and to love?
And Socrates walks in the wonderful palace which was elevated for you, at least for the human being, who got to know himself by thinking, who was able to accept, has spiritualized and materialized his Deity, and now possesses the attunement to the first sphere, and is free from hatred, from lies and deception, gossip, sullying, thieving.
That human being works, inspires and can never say again: “What does it matter to me.”
Because then you are standing still, then you muddy yourself, then you steal the light from your twin soul.
They now know that in this building, the temple of wisdom, every thought must be experienced in a birth giving and creating way, because one thought is a space, is love, is light, possessed fatherhood and motherhood, friendship, the being one with all the grades of life for God, created by him from the All-Mother, of which we have to master the sweetness and space as a Deity.
Lectures Part 2, 1951
There he receives the inspiration to reincarnate again in order to bring this wisdom to the earth:
And in that temple Socrates says: “Masters, mothers, let me return to the earth in order to do it once more, they will probably have learned in that time.”
Lectures Part 2, 1951
But that is not necessary:
Then the Master says: “No, another will do that for you, because that child is also already prepared.
Lectures Part 2, 1951
The master shows Socrates that many forms of poisoned chalices exist:
But when you continue to walk, to visit and love the darkness, how can you then see and admire the light in the other life?
Then you are darkness and when you have that grade of life, then you go to pride, then you cling to the possession of another, then you place the ‘cup of life’ before the human being as poison.
Yes, then you enter the war and you act the general, then you are king and emperor, then you command and you put your name under the death sentence and you no longer pay attention to anything, because you are king and emperor and no one else.’”
Lectures Part 2, 1951
Socrates understands that the death penalty violates the life of a soul:
That is even worse.
“Then just give me twenty poisoned cups,” Socrates said, “that is the violating of a Divine core, even if that core is prehistoric.
Lectures Part 2, 1951
Socrates now understood which human darkness had given him poison:
However, the human being on earth learned ... Socrates and the followers, Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoras, the ancient Egyptians ...
They all learned in the temple of wisdom in order to say nothing, to first experience the word, so that our heart, our spatial heart cannot start gossiping.
So that our heart does not run riot.
So that we do not take part in gossip and nonsense, devastation, destruction, manslaughter, murder.
So that we will be mother and will be father in the pure feeling.
Because if you – Socrates learned that – are part of that which belongs to the darkness, then for your character and personality at a Divine attunement that is always a beating, the deformation of your Divine precious neck.
The poison always places you before your Divine personality and that is your cursed hatred, the devastation, the destruction, your laziness.
“You have no inspiration”, Socrates said before he looked at the earth again from the Spheres of Light, “you dark beings dared to deform me, to be able to give providence to mankind, the new arising, the awakening, the inspiration, to express the word, God, Christ, the All-Mother.
But you gave me poison.
I will avenge myself with the lash of space.
I will hit you with words and with wisdom, so that you become afraid and you will say: “That man knows everything.”
Yes, I will now go to Omniscience.
The Deity as sphere happiness now speaks through my heart, through my inner life and I feel small and pathetic now that I start to feel and to see the other in me which I must still take to the evolution by means of giving birth, by means of creation, by means of the word.
Socrates is standing there and there are the others who can give witness, who will shout, but you do not hear their voices.
They are your fathers and your mothers, your sisters and brothers who say: “Then finally become awake and conscious one day and begin to speak normally humanly, but now by means of the laws of Mother Nature.”
Lectures Part 2, 1951

The Socrates within ourselves

The philosophers can make people reflect about their inner experiencing:
But what the world possesses at the moment, was received by the philosophical systems, by the philosophers, you will feel, that has meaning if the human being gets the inner spiritual experiencing from that.
Questions and Answers Part 5, 1950
When do we awaken Socrates and Plato within ourselves?
When can you take your radiating self upwards in an inspiring way in the direction of the philosophical systems, so that ‘the Socrates and the Plato’ awaken in you?
Lectures Part 2, 1951
Then we can walk from Socrates to Christ:
And now, when you want to stand before the actual laws, want to remain lying, want to meditate – can you feel? – you also come through Christ to the philosophical systems for each thought.
Because a thought is a world, represents a world of light and darkness, which Socrates and Plato and the others started with and as a result of this created a university.
But now the University of Christ which comprises this whole universe, it says: become simple, become very simple and human, if you undergo and experience and send out the love, the core, the harmony of every thought, for every law.
Lectures Part 1, 1950